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SpinKirby
07/02/18 5:47:20 PM
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It was a bait and switch.

It ended more anti-feminist than anything else, with parent dynamics being at the forefront.

They also nerfed Flash. Wtf?
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DK9292
07/02/18 5:48:16 PM
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I've not seen it.

Is the Underminer the main villain?
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SpinKirby
07/02/18 5:49:51 PM
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DK9292 posted...
I've not seen it.

Is the Underminer the main villain?

No
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CyricZ
07/02/18 5:51:07 PM
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Who the ever-loving fuck is "Flash"? :-P

And it wasn't "anti-feminist" just because the villain turned out to be female. Evelyn's motivations had nothing to do with her being a woman and everything to do with her view of Supers. A view that is only justifiable in her own very unique situation.

Frankly, the fact that Elastigirl spent the majority of the film the provider for the family is a pretty feminist stance.
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DK9292
07/02/18 5:54:33 PM
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SpinKirby posted...
DK9292 posted...
I've not seen it.

Is the Underminer the main villain?

No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy-z0BKJK6s" data-time="

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Irony
07/02/18 5:55:23 PM
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Flash pods were nerfed a while ago
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SpinKirby
07/02/18 5:57:02 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Who the ever-loving fuck is "Flash"? :-P

And it wasn't "anti-feminist" just because the villain turned out to be female. Evelyn's motivations had nothing to do with her being a woman and everything to do with her view of Supers. A view that is only justifiable in her own very unique situation.

Frankly, the fact that Elastigirl spent the majority of the film the provider for the family is a pretty feminist stance.


That's just a subversion the classic parent dynamic though. Both ended up doing great in their positions.

Evelyn is the one that wrote the data on Elastigirl > Incredible in the first place.

The entire movie was her pushing "doesn't it feel good to be in front of men for once" while Helen was just like "ok cool".

They even had the whole cynic vs dreamer debate of "you're not better than your brother just because you think you are."
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CyricZ
07/02/18 5:59:17 PM
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I respect your perspective, but I refuse to continue arguing until you explain who "Flash" is.
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SpinKirby
07/02/18 5:59:58 PM
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CyricZ posted...
I respect your perspective, but I refuse to continue arguing until you explain who "Flash" is.


It's Dash. Lol

Speedster joke. :^(
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SpinKirby
07/02/18 6:57:15 PM
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No seriously guys.

Dash didn't do shit.
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Muffinz0rz
07/02/18 6:58:24 PM
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SpinKirby posted...
No seriously guys.

Dash didn't do shit.

Doesn't mean he was nerfed
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SpinKirby
07/02/18 7:00:10 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
SpinKirby posted...
No seriously guys.

Dash didn't do shit.

Doesn't mean he was nerfed


He couldn't learn math, even though he should be able to think fast.
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AlisLandale
07/02/18 7:00:53 PM
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Is there any fiction where a speedster isnt either nerfed into redundancy or completely overpowered?
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SpinKirby
07/02/18 7:03:48 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
Is there any fiction where a speedster isnt either nerfed into redundancy or completely overpowered?

Not in anything I can recently remember.
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DK9292
07/02/18 7:17:26 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
Is there any fiction where a speedster isnt either nerfed into redundancy or completely overpowered?

Sonic the Hedgehog.
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SpinKirby
07/02/18 7:34:34 PM
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DK9292 posted...
AlisLandale posted...
Is there any fiction where a speedster isnt either nerfed into redundancy or completely overpowered?

Sonic the Hedgehog.


I don't even count Sonic as fast.

Robonuke is just low IQ.
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Irony
07/02/18 7:39:17 PM
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Super Sonic can move FTL
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masterpug53
07/02/18 7:42:34 PM
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SpinKirby posted...
No seriously guys.

Dash didn't do shit.


Two reasons for this:

- Dash's original VA was the only one who couldn't return, on account of him being a grown man now.

- Dash already stole the living fuck out of the show in the first movie.
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Irony
07/02/18 8:07:14 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
SpinKirby posted...
No seriously guys.

Dash didn't do shit.


Two reasons for this:

- Dash's original VA was the only one who couldn't return, on account of him being a grown man now.

- Dash already stole the living fuck out of the show in the first movie.

Mirage not being in the movie is possibly due to her VA dying
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OctilIery
07/02/18 8:09:22 PM
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DK9292 posted...
AlisLandale posted...
Is there any fiction where a speedster isnt either nerfed into redundancy or completely overpowered?

Sonic the Hedgehog.

Sonic has been redundant since the 90s.
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creativerealms
07/02/18 8:12:02 PM
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There was no feminism or anti-feminism in the movie.
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tremain07
07/02/18 8:46:26 PM
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I'm more surprised nobody attacked the movie for being liberal bullshit because of Violet saying it's highly likely the villain will get a slap on the wrist because she's rich and powerful and the movie telling us politicians cannot comprehend why someone would care about people without expecting or wanting anything in return as well as them doing everything they can to shit on heroes and only changing their minds due to public outcry I mean Batman Dark knight rises got shit on for being liberal trash because of the class warfare subplot yet this gets a pass?
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SpinKirby
07/02/18 8:49:12 PM
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tremain07 posted...
I'm more surprised nobody attacked the movie for being liberal bullshit because of Violet saying it's highly likely the villain will get a slap on the wrist because she's rich and powerful and the movie telling us politicians cannot comprehend why someone would care about people without expecting or wanting anything in return as well as them doing everything they can to shit on heroes and only changing their minds due to public outcry I mean Batman Dark knight rises got shit on for being liberal trash because of the class warfare subplot yet this gets a pass?

I was also going to comment on that, but it was at the last second.
Still leaves a bit of bad taste because of how it was thrown out. ;s

creativerealms posted...
There was no feminism or anti-feminism in the movie.


Did you watch it?
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SpinKirby
07/02/18 9:03:23 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
- Dash already stole the living fuck out of the show in the first movie.

I don't know what you're talking about.

=^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5v2qBBD-gE" data-time="

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creativerealms
07/02/18 11:11:57 PM
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SpinKirby posted...
tremain07 posted...
I'm more surprised nobody attacked the movie for being liberal bullshit because of Violet saying it's highly likely the villain will get a slap on the wrist because she's rich and powerful and the movie telling us politicians cannot comprehend why someone would care about people without expecting or wanting anything in return as well as them doing everything they can to shit on heroes and only changing their minds due to public outcry I mean Batman Dark knight rises got shit on for being liberal trash because of the class warfare subplot yet this gets a pass?

I was also going to comment on that, but it was at the last second.
Still leaves a bit of bad taste because of how it was thrown out. ;s

creativerealms posted...
There was no feminism or anti-feminism in the movie.


Did you watch it?

Of course I did. In what world is being pro family anti feminist? No world.
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SpinKirby
07/02/18 11:15:17 PM
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creativerealms posted...
SpinKirby posted...
tremain07 posted...
I'm more surprised nobody attacked the movie for being liberal bullshit because of Violet saying it's highly likely the villain will get a slap on the wrist because she's rich and powerful and the movie telling us politicians cannot comprehend why someone would care about people without expecting or wanting anything in return as well as them doing everything they can to shit on heroes and only changing their minds due to public outcry I mean Batman Dark knight rises got shit on for being liberal trash because of the class warfare subplot yet this gets a pass?

I was also going to comment on that, but it was at the last second.
Still leaves a bit of bad taste because of how it was thrown out. ;s

creativerealms posted...
There was no feminism or anti-feminism in the movie.


Did you watch it?

Of course I did. In what world is being pro family anti feminist? No world.


SpinKirby posted...
Evelyn is the one that wrote the data on Elastigirl > Incredible in the first place.

The entire movie was her pushing "doesn't it feel good to be in front of men for once" while Helen was just like "ok cool".

They even had the whole cynic vs dreamer debate of "you're not better than your brother just because you think you are."

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masterpug53
07/02/18 11:40:06 PM
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SpinKirby posted...
masterpug53 posted...
- Dash already stole the living fuck out of the show in the first movie.

I don't know what you're talking about.

=^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5v2qBBD-gE" data-time="


Three of the greatest goddarn minutes ever put to film right there.
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SpinKirby
07/03/18 5:44:07 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
SpinKirby posted...
masterpug53 posted...
- Dash already stole the living fuck out of the show in the first movie.

I don't know what you're talking about.

=^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5v2qBBD-gE" data-time="


Three of the greatest goddarn minutes ever put to film right there.


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