Current Events > Um what? Youtube Show called Cobra Kai about The Karate Kid 30 years later.

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Did they steal this idea from Himym lol? I'm watching a few minutes of it and it follows Johnny lawrence apparently being quite close to a bum. Lol what?

From what I have heard the show is actually pretty good. I haven't watched it.
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It's a good show. Characters are written well, and it has a lot of that 90s, 00s vibe to it like Boy meets world.
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Wasn't his family part of the country club? A kid with parents that have that kinda wealth don't really end up as bums... and is that his car from the first movie because no way it can survive 30 years.

The show is pretty good, very thought provoking. You learn that people can change and also that somethings will never change.
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xyphilia posted...

Wasn't his family part of the country club? A kid with parents that have that kinda wealth don't really end up as bums... and is that his car from the first movie because no way it can survive 30 years.

It's shown he has a bad relationship with his step dad and his mom is dead

It's a very good series though. It feels like a natural progression of the story
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Squall28 posted...

It's a good show. Characters are written well, and it has a lot of that 90s, 00s vibe to it like Boy meets world.

Is the show depressing throughout? First 10 minutes and I'm like ugh, really don't want to see an aged old man beating up a bunch of kids (mobsters/bullies though they may be)

Which sounds weird since I was fine with it in the original movie and the garbage remake that had a sympathetic enjoyable performance by Jackie chan (and crappy everything else)

Its a great show and yes it looks like there would be no way for it to work initially and then like Johnny kicked those kids asses the show goes from yeah ok sure to fuck yeah this is awesome.
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xyphilia posted...

Squall28 posted...

It's a good show. Characters are written well, and it has a lot of that 90s, 00s vibe to it like Boy meets world.

Is the show depressing throughout? First 10 minutes and I'm like ugh, really don't want to see an aged old man beating up a bunch of kids (mobsters/bullies though they may be)

Which sounds weird since I was fine with it in the original movie and the garbage remake that had a sympathetic enjoyable performance by Jackie chan (and crappy everything else)

There are downers, but it pays off. It's ultimately a feel good show imo.
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Squall28 posted...

xyphilia posted...

Squall28 posted...

It's a good show. Characters are written well, and it has a lot of that 90s, 00s vibe to it like Boy meets world.

Is the show depressing throughout? First 10 minutes and I'm like ugh, really don't want to see an aged old man beating up a bunch of kids (mobsters/bullies though they may be)

Which sounds weird since I was fine with it in the original movie and the garbage remake that had a sympathetic enjoyable performance by Jackie chan (and crappy everything else)

There are downers, but it pays off. It's ultimately a feel good show imo.

Yeah a lot of it is about Johnny's growth as a person. The series focuses heavily on Daniel as well.
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Weird of Daniel to do something gimmicky like turn his karate chopping and bonsai treeing into an ad for selling cars, especially with how car salesmen in shows are usually portrayed as, generally underhanded and gross.

Don't know if it would be considered embarrassing because people might see you and forever associate you with those cheesy commercials, like that wiz king episode of seinfeld. But bravo if he doesn't feel self conscience about that.

I still can't get over this originally being a joke in a CBS show of all things, but am curious and want to see more because I just love karate kid so much.

Next episode seems to be an interesting perspective.

Wonder why Johnny didn't confront Daniel about the daughter being in the car that crashed into his car. That's weirdly noble? Or maybe it's just the old school philosophy he probably sticks to of snitches get stitches.

Ok 2nd episode is starting off better, I'm loving johnny's reaction to modern day pc crap and telling the kid to be quiet. I'm actually for pc crap (if it actually eliminated bullies) but just find johnny's responses to "this shit" in his eyes to be hilarious.

And that "illegal I picked up this morning" line XD !

xyphilia posted...

Weird of Daniel to do something gimmicky like turn his karate chopping and bonsai treeing into an ad for selling cars, especially with how car salesmen in shows are usually portrayed as, generally underhanded and gross.

Don't know if it would be considered embarrassing because people might see you and forever associate you with those cheesy commercials, like that wiz king episode of seinfeld. But bravo if he doesn't feel self conscience about that.

I still can't get over this originally being a joke in a CBS show of all things, but am curious and want to see more because I just love karate kid so much.

Next episode seems to be an interesting perspective.

They touch on that later.
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Its actually a pretty good show. I watched it all in one sitting unexpectedly.
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I absolutely loved the first season. Hope season 2 is good too!
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So who do people root for?

Cobra Kai is the best thing to come out of YouTube Red so far. I hope they can get Elisabeth Shue to reprise her role in the future.
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Show seems to be doing one of those interesting tropes where the bully is teaching the bullied how to fight.

Like that inverse approach.

I watched all the episodes the day they were released. It was pretty cool to watch.
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GATTJT posted...

Cobra Kai is the best thing to come out of YouTube Red so far. I hope they can get Elisabeth Shue to reprise her role in the future.

The movie has always been about the guys, so I don't know if she would really have much of a role or part to play in the story.

I'm so glad that when larusso was reminiscing it wasn't about the time spent with his high school girlfriend (which would be awful) but instead was remembering being a father to his daughter and teaching her self defense and stuff. That was a lot more touching and fitting.

xyphilia posted...

Show seems to be doing one of those interesting tropes where the bully is teaching the bullied how to fight.

Like that inverse approach.

It kinda paints the original Cobra Kais in a new light.

While they were the bullies in the original film, in this series they start out as nerds who later become bullies, implying the original Cobra Kais were possibly the same way and changed under the bad influence of Kreese.
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When Kreese shows up at the end of the final episode, i was surprised.
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xyphilia posted...

Show seems to be doing one of those interesting tropes where the bully is teaching the bullied how to fight.

Like that inverse approach.

Daniel was the real bully.

But seriously, after re watching the original movie, I've come to the conclusion that both Daniel and Johnny are assholes who are quick to anger and resort to violence. In Cobra Kai they seem to of gotten their short tempers under control, but are still assholes.

Daniel wasn't the real bully.
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The whole Daniel being the real bully thing is a meme that needs to go away lol. Johnny was the main aggressor throughout the movie.

Daniel admittedly did have anger issues that didn't help the situation but that sounds like victim blaming.

The only time Daniel was the aggressor was the hose thing, but that was more of a harmless prank than an attack and Johnny took it too far.
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Great show. I got Youtube Red for it and still have it because of the convenience of being able to listen to the Youtube app with my phone's screen off lol
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I have no interest in it but youtube was trying to force it on me for weeks.
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Also are they in a public school or private school?

And the nerd who doesn't say much, why does he look so familiar? Wait is he the son of Mike white?

It looks actually interesting and the concept is good as well
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BlueBoy675 posted...

xyphilia posted...

Show seems to be doing one of those interesting tropes where the bully is teaching the bullied how to fight.

Like that inverse approach.

It kinda paints the original Cobra Kais in a new light.

While they were the bullies in the original film, in this series they start out as nerds who later become bullies, implying the original Cobra Kais were possibly the same way and changed under the bad influence of Kreese.

Not really, since it was the 80s. The trope here is similar to... to what 2012's 21 jump street did, where what's seen as cool and lame has completely changed from the previous decade or 2. Similarly, we can see today that nerds can be bullies and jocks can be kind friendly souls. The traditional 80s archetype of nerd, jock, burnout etc as seen in the classic movie the breakfast club has become a mishmash of all the different stereotypes.

Cmon down to Daniel San motors
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xyphilia posted...

BlueBoy675 posted...

xyphilia posted...

Show seems to be doing one of those interesting tropes where the bully is teaching the bullied how to fight.

Like that inverse approach.

It kinda paints the original Cobra Kais in a new light.

While they were the bullies in the original film, in this series they start out as nerds who later become bullies, implying the original Cobra Kais were possibly the same way and changed under the bad influence of Kreese.

Not really, since it was the 80s. The trope here is similar to... to what 2012's 21 jump street did, where what's seen as cool and lame has completely changed from the previous decade or 2. Similarly, we can see today that nerds can be bullies and jocks can be kind friendly souls. The traditional 80s archetype of nerd, jock, burnout etc as seen in the classic movie the breakfast club has become a mishmash of all the different stereotypes.

You could interpret it that way, yeah, but I still think there's evidence that implies that the Cobras weren't necessarily bad kids to begin with. There's a flashback where we see Johnny before he joins Cobra Kai. He's shown to be a bit of a wimp and mama's boy. He's clearly not the same after being in Cobra Kai for a while. It changed him.

That's minor spoilers.

"No such thing as bad student, only bad teacher." - Mr. Miyagi. This is literally one of the major themes of both the original film and the series.
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Hmm... yes that's also true good point. Very powerful line from Mr Miyagi.

Ah I see what they did. The first 2 episodes are free to hook you in, and then they make you pay for the rest of the season. I was so confused when I thought my youtube app had glitched (again) and was displaying an entire episode of a show I was sure was pay-to-view.

Nice of youtube to not region lock it, if nothing else. Still have to wait until I get back to see it though.

xyphilia posted...

Ah I see what they did. The first 2 episodes are free to hook you in, and then they make you pay for the rest of the season. I was so confused when I thought my youtube app had glitched (again) and was displaying an entire episode of a show I was sure was pay-to-view.

Nice of youtube to not region lock it, if nothing else. Still have to wait until I get back to see it though.

You should be able to get a free month trial, that's how I saw the show. Just be sure to cancel auto renew if you don't wan't to keep it.

Only in select countries though. I'm assuming it's just North America for now.

I'll wait to "acquire" it when I get back so no biggie, because I just want to see how the story ends now that I started.

OmegaPillow posted...

It looks actually interesting and the concept is good as well

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It's weird in a good way.

That sounds amazing and I love your description of it XD ! Also agreed on the cheesiness, but I started to like it in the second episode.