Current Events > Bounty Hunter shoots fleeing man in the back and walks free.

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An Oklahoma bail bond agent who was charged with murder after she fatally shot a man she was trying to take into custody was found not guilty of the charges.

In August, 41-year-old Chasity Carey, of Signature Bail Bonds in Stillwater, called 911 saying she had just shot a man, identified as 38-year-old Brandon James Williams.

When officers arrived, Williams was found dead at the scene.

Police said Williams was arrested in late July 2017 and charged with three counts of second-degree burglary, as well as possession of marijuana.

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Carey told investigators a fight broke out between her and Williams during the meeting and she shot Williams in self-defense.

However, police said witness statements, evidence at the scene and video evidence contradict Careys version of the event. Investigators dont believe the shooting was a justifiable act of self-defense.

Carey was arrested and charged with one count of first-degree murder.

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https://kfor.com/2018/03/09/stillwater-bail-bond-agent-found-not-guilty-of-murder-in-shooting-death-of-client/

I am not linking here but there is clear video of what happen and is pure murder. Now even bounty hunters are given the ticket to kill Americans like we were nothing.
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Shoes fleeing man

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.
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DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

If it's a cop I might agree with you. However, I sure as fuck don't think some wannabe cop should have the right to carry a gun let alone shoot a fleeing suspect when their life isn't in danger. Bitch deserves prison.
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Now TC has a grudge against women.
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Monolith1676 posted...

Now TC has a grudge against women.

I never ever brought up the sex of the bounty hunter, or claimed that is why she walked free. This one is on video shooting a someone in the back and LYING about what happened.
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MuayThai85 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

If it's a cop I might agree with you. However, I sure as fuck don't think some wannabe cop should have the right to carry a gun let alone shoot a fleeing suspect when their life isn't in danger. Bitch deserves prison.

It's someone who has been given the legal authority to perform that arrest. If it was literally just a random citizen, I might agree with you, at least about the shooting part.
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This will be the only topic Im sure that I agree with tc.
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Obviously there was enough evidence to prove it was self defense.
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MuayThai85 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

If it's a cop I might agree with you. However, I sure as fuck don't think some wannabe cop should have the right to carry a gun let alone shoot a fleeing suspect when their life isn't in danger. Bitch deserves prison.

Agreed, what a terrible precedent
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They look like they could be brother and sister
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Mr_Karate_II posted...

Obviously there was enough evidence to prove it was self defense.

There is video that showed that she lied about everything. Are people so happy for America to become a nation where Agents of the state can kill anyone just like that ?
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cjsdowg posted...

Mr_Karate_II posted...

Obviously there was enough evidence to prove it was self defense.

There is video that showed that she lied about everything. Are people so happy for America to become a nation where Agents of the state can kill anyone just like that ?

According to the news story, it was a jury that found her not guilty. Maybe you can try to find video of the court proceedings, or a transcript, or something? I mean, if they watched the same video that you did, but came to a different conclusion after hearing both sides make their case, then there must be some reason.
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There had to be some reasonable doubt otherwise she'd been found guilty.
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StucklnMyPants posted...

cjsdowg posted...

Mr_Karate_II posted...

Obviously there was enough evidence to prove it was self defense.

There is video that showed that she lied about everything. Are people so happy for America to become a nation where Agents of the state can kill anyone just like that ?

According to the news story, it was a jury that found her not guilty. Maybe you can try to find video of the court proceedings, or a transcript, or something? I mean, if they watched the same video that you did, but came to a different conclusion after hearing both sides make their case, then there must be some reason.

I live two counties away.

Jury have said (through the gripe vine) that they didnt want to convict a mother for killing a multiple time felon. Shitty deal.
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A "Bounty Hunter" isn't some random nutjob with a gun. They're invested people with the authority to arrest criminals that skip on bail.

That said, it's not like the dude was a serial rapist or something. He was busted for Marijuana and Burglary. I would not really consider that violent.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

A "Bounty Hunter" isn't some random nutjob with a gun. They're invested people with the authority to arrest criminals that skip on bail.

That said, it's not like the dude was a serial rapist or something. He was busted for Marijuana and Burglary. I would not really consider that violent.

Burglarers are fucking scum and deserve prison.

But murdered tho
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Tyranthraxus posted...

A "Bounty Hunter" isn't some random nutjob with a gun. They're invested people with the authority to arrest criminals that skip on bail.

That said, it's not like the dude was a serial rapist or something. He was busted for Marijuana and Burglary. I would not really consider that violent.

Cannabis being illegal is bullshit; but burglary on its own justifies the death sentence.
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I saw the video, what the fuck? she had no reason to shoot him
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DarkTransient posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

A "Bounty Hunter" isn't some random nutjob with a gun. They're invested people with the authority to arrest criminals that skip on bail.

That said, it's not like the dude was a serial rapist or something. He was busted for Marijuana and Burglary. I would not really consider that violent.

Cannabis being illegal is bullshit; but burglary on its own justifies the death sentence.

Bullshit. As shitty as it is, burglary is just theft. Sure, if you commit home invasion tie up a family while sticking a gun in their face I agree. But burglary isn't worthy of a death sentence unless it's caught in the act by the person living in the house (can argue self defence in that aspect).
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MuayThai85 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

A "Bounty Hunter" isn't some random nutjob with a gun. They're invested people with the authority to arrest criminals that skip on bail.

That said, it's not like the dude was a serial rapist or something. He was busted for Marijuana and Burglary. I would not really consider that violent.

Cannabis being illegal is bullshit; but burglary on its own justifies the death sentence.

Bullshit. As shitty as it is, burglary is just theft. Sure, if you commit home invasion tie up a family while sticking a gun in their face I agree. But burglary isn't worthy of a death sentence unless it's caught in the act by the person living in the house (can argue self defence in that aspect).

Think of it as self-defence for their next victim. Burglary is very rarely a one-off offence; it's something criminals make a career of.
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DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

It's actually not
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DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

they aren't fuckin cops.
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DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

Literally got away with murdering someone then lying about it.

And god damn at those thinking resisting or fleeing is grounds to be killed in a minor crime.
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And wtf is her kid doing there with her while shes trying to arrest someone?
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DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

Are you fucking stupid?
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MuayThai85 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

If it's a cop I might agree with you. However, I sure as fuck don't think some wannabe cop should have the right to carry a gun let alone shoot a fleeing suspect when their life isn't in danger. Bitch deserves prison.

I disagree.

Certified Bounty Hunters & all Validated Law Abiding Citizens with no Felonious Records or Records of Violence should all have the rights to bear arms as stated in the 2nd Amendment.

Self Defense and using the arms in duty are perfectly valid.
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DarkTransient posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

A "Bounty Hunter" isn't some random nutjob with a gun. They're invested people with the authority to arrest criminals that skip on bail.

That said, it's not like the dude was a serial rapist or something. He was busted for Marijuana and Burglary. I would not really consider that violent.

Cannabis being illegal is bullshit; but burglary on its own justifies the death sentence.

Bullshit. As shitty as it is, burglary is just theft. Sure, if you commit home invasion tie up a family while sticking a gun in their face I agree. But burglary isn't worthy of a death sentence unless it's caught in the act by the person living in the house (can argue self defence in that aspect).

Think of it as self-defence for their next victim. Burglary is very rarely a one-off offence; it's something criminals make a career of.

okay Minority report guy
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

If it's a cop I might agree with you. However, I sure as fuck don't think some wannabe cop should have the right to carry a gun let alone shoot a fleeing suspect when their life isn't in danger. Bitch deserves prison.

I disagree.

Certified Bounty Hunters & all Validated Law Abiding Citizens with no Felonious Records or Records of Violence should all have the rights to bear arms as stated in the 2nd Amendment.

Self Defense and using the arms in duty are perfectly valid.

Having the right to bear arms =/= shooting a person in the back as they are running away. Get your head out of your fucking ass.
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Cads_4370 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

Are you fucking stupid?

If you flee / resist, it's because you're guilty. And if the crime is serious enough that the penalties are more than a slap on the wrist, you're dangerous if left on the run. Ergo, deadly force is justified. Heck, if you ask me, it shouldn't just be "justified", it should be mandatory for anyone fleeing / resisting arrest, unless the arresting officer can be sure beyond any doubt that the fleeing / resisting will not succeed.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

they aren't fuckin cops.

Bounty Hunters are LICENSED BY THE STATE.
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DarkTransient posted...

Cads_4370 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

Are you fucking stupid?

If you flee / resist, it's because you're guilty. And if the crime is serious enough that the penalties are more than a slap on the wrist, you're dangerous if left on the run. Ergo, deadly force is justified.

Whose alt is this
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DarkTransient posted...

Cads_4370 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

Are you fucking stupid?

If you flee / resist, it's because you're guilty. And if the crime is serious enough that the penalties are more than a slap on the wrist, you're dangerous if left on the run. Ergo, deadly force is justified.

Read the bolded part.
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StucklnMyPants posted...

cjsdowg posted...

Mr_Karate_II posted...

Obviously there was enough evidence to prove it was self defense.

There is video that showed that she lied about everything. Are people so happy for America to become a nation where Agents of the state can kill anyone just like that ?

According to the news story, it was a jury that found her not guilty. Maybe you can try to find video of the court proceedings, or a transcript, or something? I mean, if they watched the same video that you did, but came to a different conclusion after hearing both sides make their case, then there must be some reason.

so do you get a free kill per kid or does that buff not stack
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MuayThai85 posted...

Having the right to bear arms =/= shooting a person in the back as they are running away. Get your head out of your fucking ass.

She's literally a licensed Bounty Hunter there to arrest a perp.
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MuayThai85 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Cads_4370 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

Are you fucking stupid?

If you flee / resist, it's because you're guilty. And if the crime is serious enough that the penalties are more than a slap on the wrist, you're dangerous if left on the run. Ergo, deadly force is justified.

Read the bolded part.

Criminals don't deserve rights. Arguing they should have them only serves to encourage them.
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why are videogame forums so good at attracting the mentally unstable
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

Having the right to bear arms =/= shooting a person in the back as they are running away. Get your head out of your fucking ass.

She's literally a licensed Bounty Hunter there to arrest a perp.

Still doesn't give you the right to shoot an unarmed person in the back because they decided to try and run.

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Do you think that guy deserves to be shot for what he did?
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There is no point in arguing that guy. Some people will just never see the problem with violent displays of power until its their own neck that the jackboot is digging into
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DarkTransient posted...

Criminals don't deserve rights. Arguing they should have them only serves to encourage them.

Yes they do. Some may be scum, but they should still be treated fairly and have the courts deal with them. Not some shitty ass bounty hunter.
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DarkTransient posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Cads_4370 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Resisting or fleeing arrest is justification for use of lethal force.

Are you fucking stupid?

If you flee / resist, it's because you're guilty. And if the crime is serious enough that the penalties are more than a slap on the wrist, you're dangerous if left on the run. Ergo, deadly force is justified.

Read the bolded part.

Criminals don't deserve rights. Arguing they should have them only serves to encourage them.

They still have rights nobody cares what you think
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MuayThai85 posted...

Still doesn't give you the right to shoot an unarmed person in the back because they decided to try and run

He's a multi-count burglar who is trying to escape the arm of the law.

And just because he doesn't have a weapon on him doesn't mean he won't go reaching for a hidden one or nearby stashed one.

Then there is the fact that it's safer to take down the perp then to get in a face to face physical altercation with the perp.

So yes, there is justification in doing so.

If the perp just accepted his arrest and went into court peacefully to stand trial, he'd literally be alive.

Your lack of Co-operation is what makes people think you're guilty.

MuayThai85 posted...

Do you think that guy deserves to be shot for what he did?

Depends on what the officer knew of the perps background.

If he's a multi-count burglar, the option should be available to the officer.
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Funkydog posted...

Yes they do. Some may be scum, but they should still be treated fairly and have the courts deal with them. Not some shitty ass bounty hunter.

Sorry, but the Bounty Hunter system exists because there aren't enough LE around to do all the jobs.
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Wow we people defending this , that is just crazy.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Funkydog posted...

Yes they do. Some may be scum, but they should still be treated fairly and have the courts deal with them. Not some shitty ass bounty hunter.

Sorry, but the Bounty Hunter system exists because there aren't enough LE around to do all the jobs.

So? No one should have the right to kill just because someone is resisting arrest or fleeing, save specific cases like terrorists etc.
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Funkydog posted...

So? No one should have the right to kill just because someone is resisting arrest or fleeing, save specific cases like terrorists etc.

He's a Multi-time Burglar who is resisting arrest & fleeing.

He's a threat to the community by evidence of his past crimes.

That gave the Bounty Hunter a credible threat level against said perp to justify her actions.

The Jury agrees with her assessment of her actions.

That in itself should be good enough for most folks.
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Guess we just disagree on what is worth killing someone over.

I feel shooting a man in the back is murder, given he wasn't convicted of something worth the death penalty and law enforcement shouldn't be judge, jury and executioner.
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Funkydog posted...

Guess we just disagree on what is worth killing someone over.

I feel shooting a man in the back is murder, given he wasn't convicted of something worth the death penalty and law enforcement shouldn't be judge, jury and executioner.

That's fine.

We can agree to disagree.

That's what makes us adults holding a civil discourse over a topic.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Funkydog posted...

Yes they do. Some may be scum, but they should still be treated fairly and have the courts deal with them. Not some shitty ass bounty hunter.

Sorry, but the Bounty Hunter system exists because there aren't enough LE around to do all the jobs.

there would be if they stopped wasting time on weed busts
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