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Vindris_SNH 06/27/18 4:46:50 PM #102:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Vindris_SNH posted... BWLurker2 posted... The idiots who are anti abortion are also anti aid for the kid after its born into a family unable to raise it. Either be pro life all the way or fuck off. CyricZ posted... Anti-abortion people tend to be against contraception and sex education as well. "Abstinence or raise a baby, you whore." It's all about controlling sex. Either evangelicals or incels looking to punish women. These ideas are entirely untrue, and placed into your head by a biased media. You are blatantly lying. Show me the studies that prove these accusations about pro-lifers. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:904076024] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker2 posted...</cite> <quote>The idiots who are anti abortion are also anti aid for the kid after its born into a family unable to raise it. Either be pro life all the way or fuck off.</quote> <cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>Anti-abortion people tend to be against contraception and sex education as well. "Abstinence or raise a baby, you whore." It's all about controlling sex. Either evangelicals or incels looking to punish women.</quote> These ideas are entirely untrue, and placed into your head by a biased media.</quote> You are blatantly lying.</quote> Show me the studies that prove these accusations about pro-lifers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davyheinz 06/27/18 4:46:55 PM #103:	I have Vindris tagged as not serious so I would think that means to ignore them. Just a hint for some of you. --- Currently playing: Strider, Jet Force Gemini, Psychonauts, Final Fantasy III, Red Dead Redemption <cite>davyheinz posted [p:904076027] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote>I have Vindris tagged as not serious so I would think that means to ignore them. Just a hint for some of you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Minute 06/27/18 4:47:32 PM #104:	Vindris_SNH posted... an entire life It's not a fucking conscious human at the moment of conception, you absolute fucking loon. At the absolute earliest, conscience emerges around the end of the first trimester/beginning of the second trimester. --- https://imgur.com/csggIkz <cite>Minute posted [p:904076071] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>an entire life</quote> It's not a fucking conscious human at the moment of conception, you absolute fucking loon. At the absolute earliest, conscience emerges around the end of the first trimester/beginning of the second trimester.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/27/18 4:48:41 PM #105:	Vindris_SNH posted... hockeybub89 posted... Vindris_SNH posted... Abyssea posted... Vindris_SNH posted... You Democrats sure do love dead babies, eh? I just believe in a woman's bodily autonomy. Yeah because that baby forced its way inside her and FUCK THAT BASTARD! Why would a baby be inside a woman? It's already a baby. Whoooaaa, semantics! You got me there. FUCK THAT NEWLY FORMED HUMAN LIFE THAT FORCED ITS OWN WAY INSIDE THAT POOR WOMAN! It's not semantics. Abortion is ok because the mass of flesh is not yet fully formed and no one benefits from forcing a child into an unprepared household or into an orphanage. You don't choose to be born. You're given permission. Also, getting humans to stop having sex outside of procreation would be about as successful as asking humans to grow a 2nd nose. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:904076155] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>You Democrats sure do love dead babies, eh?</quote> I just believe in a woman's bodily autonomy.</quote> Yeah because that baby forced its way inside her and FUCK THAT BASTARD!</quote> Why would a baby be inside a woman? It's already a baby.</quote> Whoooaaa, semantics! You got me there. FUCK THAT NEWLY FORMED HUMAN LIFE THAT FORCED ITS OWN WAY INSIDE THAT POOR WOMAN!</quote> It's not semantics. Abortion is ok because the mass of flesh is not yet fully formed and no one benefits from forcing a child into an unprepared household or into an orphanage. You don't choose to be born. You're given permission. Also, getting humans to stop having sex outside of procreation would be about as successful as asking humans to grow a 2nd nose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 06/27/18 4:49:24 PM #106:	hockeybub89 posted... If that was the case, then I really can't see how you think your beliefs should be law. You're getting into feelings and metaphysical concepts. "Men and women can't feel like the opposite sex! Science can't prove it, but I have a good feeling!" I will say that this is a fresh take on trans people I haven't seen before. Usually people erroneously cite science. Yeah, metaphysics and philosophy are exactly what we should be looking at, as well as precedent and scientific evidence. It is the trans camp which relies on feelings and accepts at face value the declaration that because someone feels like a woman, they are one. They will not bear any argument on the question, because you are immediately rendered a transphobe, and they seek to ram it through law without having to do any of the work to get there, only bullying. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:904076204] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> If that was the case, then I really can't see how you think your beliefs should be law. You're getting into feelings and metaphysical concepts. "Men and women can't feel like the opposite sex! Science can't prove it, but I have a good feeling!" I will say that this is a fresh take on trans people I haven't seen before. Usually people erroneously cite science.</quote> Yeah, metaphysics and philosophy are exactly what we should be looking at, as well as precedent and scientific evidence. It is the trans camp which relies on feelings and accepts at face value the declaration that because someone feels like a woman, they are one. They will not bear any argument on the question, because you are immediately rendered a transphobe, and they seek to ram it through law without having to do any of the work to get there, only bullying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 06/27/18 4:50:51 PM #108:	Vindris_SNH posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Vindris_SNH posted... BWLurker2 posted... The idiots who are anti abortion are also anti aid for the kid after its born into a family unable to raise it. Either be pro life all the way or fuck off. CyricZ posted... Anti-abortion people tend to be against contraception and sex education as well. "Abstinence or raise a baby, you whore." It's all about controlling sex. Either evangelicals or incels looking to punish women. These ideas are entirely untrue, and placed into your head by a biased media. You are blatantly lying. Show me the studies that prove these accusations about pro-lifers. Show you studies to prove to you that you're lying when you already know you're lying? That sounds like a waste of time. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:904076296] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker2 posted...</cite> <quote>The idiots who are anti abortion are also anti aid for the kid after its born into a family unable to raise it. Either be pro life all the way or fuck off.</quote> <cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>Anti-abortion people tend to be against contraception and sex education as well. "Abstinence or raise a baby, you whore." It's all about controlling sex. Either evangelicals or incels looking to punish women.</quote> These ideas are entirely untrue, and placed into your head by a biased media.</quote> You are blatantly lying.</quote> Show me the studies that prove these accusations about pro-lifers.</quote> Show you studies to prove to you that you're lying when you already know you're lying? That sounds like a waste of time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 06/27/18 4:50:54 PM #109:	Minute posted... Vindris_SNH posted... an entire life It's not a fucking conscious human at the moment of conception, you absolute fucking loon. At the absolute earliest, conscience emerges around the end of the first trimester/beginning of the second trimester. Oh yeah I forgot that if you're unconscious you have no legal rights. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:904076299] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Minute posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>an entire life</quote> It's not a fucking conscious human at the moment of conception, you absolute fucking loon. At the absolute earliest, conscience emerges around the end of the first trimester/beginning of the second trimester.</quote> Oh yeah I forgot that if you're unconscious you have no legal rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/27/18 4:51:05 PM #110:	Vindris_SNH posted... hockeybub89 posted... Vindris_SNH posted... NEWSFLASH: I'm a married man. I have sex regularly. Then stop trying to take bodily autonomy away from women. You know a woman. 9 months of bodily autonomy VS an entire life Makes sense Not even a fully alive, matured person has a right to someone else's body, so why should a half-formed human thing that has yet to know life? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:904076311] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>NEWSFLASH: I'm a married man. I have sex regularly.</quote> Then stop trying to take bodily autonomy away from women. You know a woman.</quote> 9 months of bodily autonomy VS an entire life Makes sense</quote> Not even a fully alive, matured person has a right to someone else's body, so why should a half-formed human thing that has yet to know life?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 06/27/18 4:51:16 PM #111:	davyheinz posted... I have Vindris tagged as not serious so I would think that means to ignore them. Just a hint for some of you. Noted, and good to hear. Imagining the woman who would want to marry him was giving me a cramp. KhanJohnny posted... They will not bear any argument on the question, because you are immediately rendered a transphobe So what's your argument. I promise I won't call you a transphobe. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:904076324] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>davyheinz posted...</cite> <quote>I have Vindris tagged as not serious so I would think that means to ignore them. Just a hint for some of you.</quote> Noted, and good to hear. Imagining the woman who would want to marry him was giving me a cramp. <cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>They will not bear any argument on the question, because you are immediately rendered a transphobe</quote> So what's your argument. I promise I won't call you a transphobe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 06/27/18 4:51:26 PM #112:	BWLurker2 posted... KhanJohnny posted... BWLurker2 posted... KhanJohnny posted... Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front. What's wrong with you? Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction. How does what makes those people feel acceptable affect you in any way? It affects me because imo it is a lie, fraud, and deception perpetrated over an entire civilization. It affects me because I prefer truths to lies. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:904076335] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front.</quote> What's wrong with you?</quote> Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction.</quote> How does what makes those people feel acceptable affect you in any way?</quote> It affects me because imo it is a lie, fraud, and deception perpetrated over an entire civilization. It affects me because I prefer truths to lies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 06/27/18 4:51:39 PM #113:	What a dumpster fire this topic turned into --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:904076346] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote>What a dumpster fire this topic turned into</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 06/27/18 4:53:08 PM #114:	CyricZ posted... So what's your argument. I promise I won't call you a transphobe. I'm not going to go into detail because the mods tend to ban you for arguing against transgenderism. It's happened to me several times, and I'd like to keep this account longer than a few days. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:904076436] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote> So what's your argument. I promise I won't call you a transphobe.</quote> I'm not going to go into detail because the mods tend to ban you for arguing against transgenderism. It's happened to me several times, and I'd like to keep this account longer than a few days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/27/18 4:53:14 PM #115:	Vindris_SNH posted... Minute posted... Vindris_SNH posted... an entire life It's not a fucking conscious human at the moment of conception, you absolute fucking loon. At the absolute earliest, conscience emerges around the end of the first trimester/beginning of the second trimester. Oh yeah I forgot that if you're unconscious you have no legal rights. There is a difference between being unconscious and not yet having formed organs that makes one alive before they can start their life whenever they pop out of a woman's loins --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:904076444] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Minute posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>an entire life</quote> It's not a fucking conscious human at the moment of conception, you absolute fucking loon. At the absolute earliest, conscience emerges around the end of the first trimester/beginning of the second trimester.</quote> Oh yeah I forgot that if you're unconscious you have no legal rights.</quote> There is a difference between being unconscious and not yet having formed organs that makes one alive before they can start their life whenever they pop out of a woman's loins</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 06/27/18 4:54:23 PM #116:	Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted... I can't see this happening, at all. I'm pro gay marriage and don't care either way about abortion. I just don't see it. This is typical overreaction. People come out and cry things like this "wah this is the end of America" every day over every thing. This. Remember a year ago when Dems were screaming about how Trump would lead to certain nuclear war with North Korea? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:904076506] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...</cite> <quote>I can't see this happening, at all. I'm pro gay marriage and don't care either way about abortion. I just don't see it. This is typical overreaction. People come out and cry things like this "wah this is the end of America" every day over every thing.</quote> This. Remember a year ago when Dems were screaming about how Trump would lead to certain nuclear war with North Korea?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/27/18 4:54:25 PM #117:	KhanJohnny posted... BWLurker2 posted... KhanJohnny posted... BWLurker2 posted... KhanJohnny posted... Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front. What's wrong with you? Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction. How does what makes those people feel acceptable affect you in any way? It affects me because imo it is a lie, fraud, and deception perpetrated over an entire civilization. It affects me because I prefer truths to lies. How you define truth if it's something beyond facts? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:904076513] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front.</quote> What's wrong with you?</quote> Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction.</quote> How does what makes those people feel acceptable affect you in any way?</quote> It affects me because imo it is a lie, fraud, and deception perpetrated over an entire civilization. It affects me because I prefer truths to lies.</quote> How you define truth if it's something beyond facts?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 06/27/18 4:54:33 PM #118:	UnholyMudcrab posted... What a dumpster fire this topic turned into Well that kinda thing happens when Conservatives can't hide their boners from getting to fuck people over and control their lives --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:904076522] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>What a dumpster fire this topic turned into</quote> Well that kinda thing happens when Conservatives can't hide their boners from getting to fuck people over and control their lives</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 06/27/18 4:55:01 PM #119:	KhanJohnny posted... CyricZ posted... So what's your argument. I promise I won't call you a transphobe. I'm not going to go into detail because the mods tend to ban you for arguing against transgenderism. It's happened to me several times, and I'd like to keep this account longer than a few days. Well then hop it if you don't want to argue. I came to d-d-d-d-d-duel, not listen to whining. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:904076557] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote> So what's your argument. I promise I won't call you a transphobe.</quote> I'm not going to go into detail because the mods tend to ban you for arguing against transgenderism. It's happened to me several times, and I'd like to keep this account longer than a few days.</quote> Well then hop it if you don't want to argue. I came to d-d-d-d-d-duel, not listen to whining.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 06/27/18 4:55:48 PM #120:	hockeybub89 posted... KhanJohnny posted... BWLurker2 posted... KhanJohnny posted... BWLurker2 posted... KhanJohnny posted... Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front. What's wrong with you? Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction. How does what makes those people feel acceptable affect you in any way? It affects me because imo it is a lie, fraud, and deception perpetrated over an entire civilization. It affects me because I prefer truths to lies. How you define truth if it's something beyond facts? I didn't say it's beyond facts. I said that scientific and medical facts are a part of the equation, but are not the sum of evidence for how Men and Women should be defined. It's a philosophical question. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:904076611] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>Gay rights are here to stay, and I'm good with that, but hopefully this will ward off any progress on the Trans front.</quote> What's wrong with you?</quote> Nothing. I just dont believe men can be women or vice versa, and I don't want any more decisions tending in that direction.</quote> How does what makes those people feel acceptable affect you in any way?</quote> It affects me because imo it is a lie, fraud, and deception perpetrated over an entire civilization. It affects me because I prefer truths to lies.</quote> How you define truth if it's something beyond facts?</quote> I didn't say it's beyond facts. I said that scientific and medical facts are a part of the equation, but are not the sum of evidence for how Men and Women should be defined. It's a philosophical question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/27/18 4:56:06 PM #121:	Is it actually possible to revert gay marriage in america? Wouldnt that require a majority vote from the citizens? Which they would never get today --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:904076631] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote>Is it actually possible to revert gay marriage in america? Wouldnt that require a majority vote from the citizens? Which they would never get today</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 06/27/18 4:56:43 PM #122:	CyricZ posted... KhanJohnny posted... CyricZ posted... So what's your argument. I promise I won't call you a transphobe. I'm not going to go into detail because the mods tend to ban you for arguing against transgenderism. It's happened to me several times, and I'd like to keep this account longer than a few days. Well then hop it if you don't want to argue. I came to d-d-d-d-d-duel, not listen to whining. Don't blame me. Blame the mods for censoring speech. I'm already worried I might be banned for stuff I've said in this topic. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:904076679] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote> So what's your argument. I promise I won't call you a transphobe.</quote> I'm not going to go into detail because the mods tend to ban you for arguing against transgenderism. It's happened to me several times, and I'd like to keep this account longer than a few days.</quote> Well then hop it if you don't want to argue. I came to d-d-d-d-d-duel, not listen to whining.</quote> Don't blame me. Blame the mods for censoring speech. I'm already worried I might be banned for stuff I've said in this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 06/27/18 4:57:00 PM #124:	KhanJohnny posted... It's a philosophical question. Hard sciences don't support me, so let's talk philosophy! lol --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:904076694] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>It's a philosophical question.</quote> Hard sciences don't support me, so let's talk philosophy! lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/27/18 4:57:11 PM #125:	Rika_Furude posted... Is it actually possible to revert gay marriage in america? Wouldnt that require a majority vote from the citizens? Which they would never get today It didn't take a vote to decree it nationwide, thus neither will the reverse. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:904076706] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Is it actually possible to revert gay marriage in america? Wouldnt that require a majority vote from the citizens? Which they would never get today</quote> It didn't take a vote to decree it nationwide, thus neither will the reverse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 06/27/18 4:57:17 PM #126:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... It's not semantics. Abortion is ok because the mass of flesh is not yet fully formed and no one benefits from forcing a child into an unprepared household or into an orphanage. You don't choose to be born. You're given permission. Also, getting humans to stop having sex outside of procreation would be about as successful as asking humans to grow a 2nd nose. What qualifies one person to decide if another person should be allowed to live? How many people have led successful and happy lives after a rough childhood? --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:904076712] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>It's not semantics. Abortion is ok because the mass of flesh is not yet fully formed and no one benefits from forcing a child into an unprepared household or into an orphanage. You don't choose to be born. You're given permission. Also, getting humans to stop having sex outside of procreation would be about as successful as asking humans to grow a 2nd nose.</quote> What qualifies one person to decide if another person should be allowed to live? How many people have led successful and happy lives after a rough childhood?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/27/18 4:58:49 PM #127:	Questionmarktarius posted... Rika_Furude posted... Is it actually possible to revert gay marriage in america? Wouldnt that require a majority vote from the citizens? Which they would never get today It didn't take a vote to decree it nationwide, thus neither will the reverse. But even then, whoever attempts that would be committing political/career suicide. Surely nobody would actually attempt it? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:904076803] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> Is it actually possible to revert gay marriage in america? Wouldnt that require a majority vote from the citizens? Which they would never get today</quote> It didn't take a vote to decree it nationwide, thus neither will the reverse.</quote> But even then, whoever attempts that would be committing political/career suicide. Surely nobody would actually attempt it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 06/27/18 4:58:53 PM #128:	hockeybub89 posted... KhanJohnny posted... It's a philosophical question. Hard sciences don't support me, so let's talk philosophy! lol Hard sciences don't at all prove that because I feel like a man, I am one. There is nothing in science you can point to that says something is a "Man" conclusively If you have something I don't know about, share it. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:904076808] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>It's a philosophical question.</quote> Hard sciences don't support me, so let's talk philosophy! lol</quote> Hard sciences don't at all prove that because I feel like a man, I am one. There is nothing in science you can point to that says something is a "Man" conclusively If you have something I don't know about, share it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 06/27/18 4:59:05 PM #129:	Vindris_SNH posted... Minute posted... Vindris_SNH posted... an entire life It's not a fucking conscious human at the moment of conception, you absolute fucking loon. At the absolute earliest, conscience emerges around the end of the first trimester/beginning of the second trimester. Oh yeah I forgot that if you're unconscious you have no legal rights. Dumb post --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:904076822] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Minute posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>an entire life</quote> It's not a fucking conscious human at the moment of conception, you absolute fucking loon. At the absolute earliest, conscience emerges around the end of the first trimester/beginning of the second trimester.</quote> Oh yeah I forgot that if you're unconscious you have no legal rights.</quote> Dumb post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 06/27/18 4:59:50 PM #130:	UnholyMudcrab posted... What a dumpster fire this topic turned into it was destined to be --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson i.imgur.com/a2EzoIs.gif i.imgur.com/rPcGRiP.gif <cite>HylianFox posted [p:904076866] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>What a dumpster fire this topic turned into</quote> it was destined to be</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/27/18 5:00:38 PM #131:	Vindris_SNH posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... It's not semantics. Abortion is ok because the mass of flesh is not yet fully formed and no one benefits from forcing a child into an unprepared household or into an orphanage. You don't choose to be born. You're given permission. Also, getting humans to stop having sex outside of procreation would be about as successful as asking humans to grow a 2nd nose. What qualifies one person to decide if another person should be allowed to live? How many people have led successful and happy lives after a rough childhood? Whether or not the mother wants to give it life, silly. If a parent wants to raise you in a rough place, good on them if they can make it work. But forcing more children to be born into poverty or abuse against the will of their mothers. You don't choose to be born and it shouldn't be the government's choice either. Fetuses are not the same as people. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:904076924] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>It's not semantics. Abortion is ok because the mass of flesh is not yet fully formed and no one benefits from forcing a child into an unprepared household or into an orphanage. You don't choose to be born. You're given permission. Also, getting humans to stop having sex outside of procreation would be about as successful as asking humans to grow a 2nd nose.</quote> What qualifies one person to decide if another person should be allowed to live? How many people have led successful and happy lives after a rough childhood?</quote> Whether or not the mother wants to give it life, silly. If a parent wants to raise you in a rough place, good on them if they can make it work. But forcing more children to be born into poverty or abuse against the will of their mothers. You don't choose to be born and it shouldn't be the government's choice either. Fetuses are not the same as people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/27/18 5:01:27 PM #132:	Rika_Furude posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Rika_Furude posted... Is it actually possible to revert gay marriage in america? Wouldnt that require a majority vote from the citizens? Which they would never get today It didn't take a vote to decree it nationwide, thus neither will the reverse. But even then, whoever attempts that would be committing political/career suicide. Surely nobody would actually attempt it? Yeah probably not. Were Obergefell actually overturned, simple inertia would significantly limit the number of states that jump on undoing it. Same with Roe. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:904076985] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> Is it actually possible to revert gay marriage in america? Wouldnt that require a majority vote from the citizens? Which they would never get today</quote> It didn't take a vote to decree it nationwide, thus neither will the reverse.</quote> But even then, whoever attempts that would be committing political/career suicide. Surely nobody would actually attempt it?</quote> Yeah probably not. Were Obergefell actually overturned, simple inertia would significantly limit the number of states that jump on undoing it. Same with Roe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 06/27/18 5:01:38 PM #133:	The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:904076993] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote>The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/27/18 5:01:59 PM #134:	Questionmarktarius posted... Rika_Furude posted... Is it actually possible to revert gay marriage in america? Wouldnt that require a majority vote from the citizens? Which they would never get today It didn't take a vote to decree it nationwide, thus neither will the reverse. More to the point, there would have to be enough straight people willing to rally and march in the streets in civil unrest for months to actually get pressure out there to affect anything. This is basically Trump's lead in to declare some martial law or secret set of laws and powers to avoid stepping down at the end of his term or if he loses reelection, and the Scotus majority would make any resistance to that moot. Meaning yes, there's going to be reason for a civil war or mass exodus of Americans very soon. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:904077016] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Is it actually possible to revert gay marriage in america? Wouldnt that require a majority vote from the citizens? Which they would never get today</quote> It didn't take a vote to decree it nationwide, thus neither will the reverse.</quote> More to the point, there would have to be enough straight people willing to rally and march in the streets in civil unrest for months to actually get pressure out there to affect anything. This is basically Trump's lead in to declare some martial law or secret set of laws and powers to avoid stepping down at the end of his term or if he loses reelection, and the Scotus majority would make any resistance to that moot. Meaning yes, there's going to be reason for a civil war or mass exodus of Americans very soon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 06/27/18 5:02:45 PM #135:	KhanJohnny posted... Don't blame me. Blame the mods for censoring speech. I'm already worried I might be banned for stuff I've said in this topic. I'll blame you for getting your own ass banned and not being able to hold an argument. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:904077066] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>Don't blame me. Blame the mods for censoring speech. I'm already worried I might be banned for stuff I've said in this topic.</quote> I'll blame you for getting your own ass banned and not being able to hold an argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/27/18 5:03:26 PM #136:	KhanJohnny posted... hockeybub89 posted... KhanJohnny posted... It's a philosophical question. Hard sciences don't support me, so let's talk philosophy! lol Hard sciences don't at all prove that because I feel like a man, I am one. There is nothing in science you can point to that says something is a "Man" conclusively If you have something I don't know about, share it. "I feel like a man, so I am one. Trans people though..." Again, if there is nothing tangible to conclusively define what a man or woman is, then how in the world can we limit it at all from a legal standpoint? How do we choose which feelings to follow? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:904077106] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>It's a philosophical question.</quote> Hard sciences don't support me, so let's talk philosophy! lol</quote> Hard sciences don't at all prove that because I feel like a man, I am one. There is nothing in science you can point to that says something is a "Man" conclusively If you have something I don't know about, share it.</quote> "I feel like a man, so I am one. Trans people though..." Again, if there is nothing tangible to conclusively define what a man or woman is, then how in the world can we limit it at all from a legal standpoint? How do we choose which feelings to follow?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker2 06/27/18 5:03:26 PM #137:	Vindris_SNH posted... The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves. If pro lifers were supportive of giving aid to the families who can't support the babies, that'd be one thing, but until then you're just virtue signaling hypocrites <cite>BWLurker2 posted [p:904077107] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves.</quote> If pro lifers were supportive of giving aid to the families who can't support the babies, that'd be one thing, but until then you're just virtue signaling hypocrites</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 06/27/18 5:04:11 PM #139:	shockthemonkey posted... Howl posted... Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted... I can't see this happening, at all. I'm pro gay marriage and don't care either way about abortion. I just don't see it. This is typical overreaction. People come out and cry things like this "wah this is the end of America" every day over every thing. This. Remember a year ago when Dems were screaming about how Trump would lead to certain nuclear war with North Korea? Overturning Roe v Wade is a stated goal of this administration and now theyve been given the power to do it Trump has had the power to start a nuclear war with North Korea a almost 2 years now too. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:904077160] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...</cite> <quote> I can't see this happening, at all. I'm pro gay marriage and don't care either way about abortion. I just don't see it. This is typical overreaction. People come out and cry things like this "wah this is the end of America" every day over every thing. </quote> This. Remember a year ago when Dems were screaming about how Trump would lead to certain nuclear war with North Korea?</quote> Overturning Roe v Wade is a stated goal of this administration and now theyve been given the power to do it</quote> Trump has had the power to start a nuclear war with North Korea a almost 2 years now too. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 06/27/18 5:04:41 PM #140:	Vindris_SNH posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... It's not semantics. Abortion is ok because the mass of flesh is not yet fully formed and no one benefits from forcing a child into an unprepared household or into an orphanage. You don't choose to be born. You're given permission. Also, getting humans to stop having sex outside of procreation would be about as successful as asking humans to grow a 2nd nose. What qualifies one person to decide if another person should be allowed to live? How many people have led successful and happy lives after a rough childhood? Why did you replace the name of the poster with my name? I wasn't even part of that block of posts, so it couldn't have been just a mistake you made while cutting down the post. That was an odd thing to do. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:904077185] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>It's not semantics. Abortion is ok because the mass of flesh is not yet fully formed and no one benefits from forcing a child into an unprepared household or into an orphanage. You don't choose to be born. You're given permission. Also, getting humans to stop having sex outside of procreation would be about as successful as asking humans to grow a 2nd nose.</quote> What qualifies one person to decide if another person should be allowed to live? How many people have led successful and happy lives after a rough childhood?</quote> Why did you replace the name of the poster with my name? I wasn't even part of that block of posts, so it couldn't have been just a mistake you made while cutting down the post. That was an odd thing to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/27/18 5:04:59 PM #141:	Vindris_SNH posted... The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves. Excuse us for believing bonus dead women is worse than just dead fetuses. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:904077204] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves.</quote> Excuse us for believing bonus dead women is worse than just dead fetuses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/27/18 5:05:38 PM #142:	Vindris_SNH posted... The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves. Or maybe you have been corrupted by Christianity into supporting things blindly even at the detriment of society. What makes unborn humans so special? Your exact problem is that you are favoring feelings over functionality. Feelings are for watching movies and finding love, not passing legislation. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:904077238] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves.</quote> Or maybe you have been corrupted by Christianity into supporting things blindly even at the detriment of society. What makes unborn humans so special? Your exact problem is that you are favoring feelings over functionality. Feelings are for watching movies and finding love, not passing legislation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jborgan 06/27/18 5:05:41 PM #143:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Vindris_SNH posted... Minute posted... Vindris_SNH posted... an entire life It's not a fucking conscious human at the moment of conception, you absolute fucking loon. At the absolute earliest, conscience emerges around the end of the first trimester/beginning of the second trimester. Oh yeah I forgot that if you're unconscious you have no legal rights. Dumb post That's what he's known for. Nonsensical arguments and kissing Admiral's ass. --- http://www.last.fm/user/jborgan <cite>jborgan posted [p:904077240] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Minute posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>an entire life</quote> It's not a fucking conscious human at the moment of conception, you absolute fucking loon. At the absolute earliest, conscience emerges around the end of the first trimester/beginning of the second trimester.</quote> Oh yeah I forgot that if you're unconscious you have no legal rights.</quote> Dumb post</quote> That's what he's known for. Nonsensical arguments and kissing Admiral's ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 06/27/18 5:05:58 PM #145:	Roe vs wade being repealed would cause chaos. I'd argue it would be the start of a real revolt. Opposers of it are the vast minority. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:904077263] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote>Roe vs wade being repealed would cause chaos. I'd argue it would be the start of a real revolt. Opposers of it are the vast minority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/27/18 5:06:00 PM #146:	BWLurker2 posted... Vindris_SNH posted... The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves. If pro lifers were supportive of giving aid to the families who can't support the babies, that'd be one thing, but until then you're just virtue signaling hypocrites I have mixed feelings about aborting but i support giving aid to whoever needs it, not just families --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:904077266] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote> The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves.</quote> If pro lifers were supportive of giving aid to the families who can't support the babies, that'd be one thing, but until then you're just virtue signaling hypocrites</quote> I have mixed feelings about aborting but i support giving aid to whoever needs it, not just families</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DavidWong 06/27/18 5:06:59 PM #147:	Lol America You guys are fucked --- When goods do not cross borders, soldiers will. Frederic Bastiat, French economist (1801-1850) <cite>DavidWong posted [p:904077335] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote>Lol America You guys are fucked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 06/27/18 5:07:01 PM #148:	BWLurker2 posted... Vindris_SNH posted... The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves. If pro lifers were supportive of giving aid to the families who can't support the babies, that'd be one thing, but until then you're just virtue signaling hypocrites I am supportive of that. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:904077339] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves.</quote> If pro lifers were supportive of giving aid to the families who can't support the babies, that'd be one thing, but until then you're just virtue signaling hypocrites</quote> I am supportive of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 06/27/18 5:07:15 PM #149:	Zeeak4444 posted... Opposers of it are the vast minority. The Republicans have been working against public opinion for basically their entire agenda. They don't give a shit what the people think, just their donors. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:904077354] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>Opposers of it are the vast minority.</quote> The Republicans have been working against public opinion for basically their entire agenda. They don't give a shit what the people think, just their donors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 06/27/18 5:08:55 PM #150:	Vindris_SNH posted... The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves. hockeybub89 posted... KhanJohnny posted... hockeybub89 posted... KhanJohnny posted... It's a philosophical question. Hard sciences don't support me, so let's talk philosophy! lol Hard sciences don't at all prove that because I feel like a man, I am one. There is nothing in science you can point to that says something is a "Man" conclusively If you have something I don't know about, share it. "I feel like a man, so I am one. Trans people though..." Again, if there is nothing tangible to conclusively define what a man or woman is, then how in the world can we limit it at all from a legal standpoint? How do we choose which feelings to follow? Sound reasoning isn't the same as relying on feelings. That I am a man, is based on more than my feelings about it. There is scientific evidence for how we should define men and women, but that only provides the material for us to form our conceptions about the two genders.The progressive understanding of gender, based on the available evidence, is self-contradictory and irrational. That is why it's a bad definition. Not because I feel differently about it. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:904077438] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves.</quote> <cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>It's a philosophical question.</quote> Hard sciences don't support me, so let's talk philosophy! lol</quote> Hard sciences don't at all prove that because I feel like a man, I am one. There is nothing in science you can point to that says something is a "Man" conclusively If you have something I don't know about, share it.</quote> "I feel like a man, so I am one. Trans people though..." Again, if there is nothing tangible to conclusively define what a man or woman is, then how in the world can we limit it at all from a legal standpoint? How do we choose which feelings to follow?</quote> Sound reasoning isn't the same as relying on feelings. That I am a man, is based on more than my feelings about it. There is scientific evidence for how we should define men and women, but that only provides the material for us to form our conceptions about the two genders.The progressive understanding of gender, based on the available evidence, is self-contradictory and irrational. That is why it's a bad definition. Not because I feel differently about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker2 06/27/18 5:09:05 PM #151:	Vindris_SNH posted... BWLurker2 posted... Vindris_SNH posted... The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves. If pro lifers were supportive of giving aid to the families who can't support the babies, that'd be one thing, but until then you're just virtue signaling hypocrites I am supportive of that. I can respect your point of view then. I can't respect the "pro lifers" who are against aid for the families after birth <cite>BWLurker2 posted [p:904077449] in With Supre... [t:76755858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>The mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that abortion is ethical... Holy fuck I'm not gonna get into a huge debate again because I've seen this before and no one's mind on either side is ever changed. The only other comment I have is, liberals have done an amazing job at corrupting and perverting the minds of a lot of naive people who never learned to think for themselves.</quote> If pro lifers were supportive of giving aid to the families who can't support the babies, that'd be one thing, but until then you're just virtue signaling hypocrites</quote> I am supportive of that.</quote> I can respect your point of view then. I can't respect the "pro lifers" who are against aid for the families after birth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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