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Balrog0 06/22/18 1:53:48 PM #1:	http://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/good-news-republicans-its-not-2006 For much of 2017 and early 2018, GOP consultants of a certain age would tell us that this election had the same look, feel and smell of 2006; the last time Republicans had a terrible midterm election. The President was unpopular, the Democrats were motivated and GOP members were retiring rather than opting to run for re-election in what was shaping up to be an awful, no good, terrible year. Today, however, there are plenty of signs that 2018 isnt like 2006. For, one, Trumps job approval rating in the Gallup survey is 45 percent, eight points higher than the dismal 37 percent where George W. Bush was sitting at this point in 2006... Still, that unified support among Republicans is critical. Trump, the unorthodox and unpredictable leader of their party, has stronger job approval rating among Republicans today than President George W. Bush, a longtime stalwart of the party, had at this point in June 2006 (87 percent to 81 percent). Data from the most recent Pew Research poll also found evidence of a more energized and unified GOP base than we saw back in 2006. the generic ballot in 2006 was also more favorable to democrats --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903765454] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>http://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/good-news-republicans-its-not-2006 For much of 2017 and early 2018, GOP consultants of a certain age would tell us that this election had the same look, feel and smell of 2006; the last time Republicans had a terrible midterm election. The President was unpopular, the Democrats were motivated and GOP members were retiring rather than opting to run for re-election in what was shaping up to be an awful, no good, terrible year. Today, however, there are plenty of signs that 2018 isnt like 2006. For, one, Trumps job approval rating in the Gallup survey is 45 percent, eight points higher than the dismal 37 percent where George W. Bush was sitting at this point in 2006... Still, that unified support among Republicans is critical. Trump, the unorthodox and unpredictable leader of their party, has stronger job approval rating among Republicans today than President George W. Bush, a longtime stalwart of the party, had at this point in June 2006 (87 percent to 81 percent). Data from the most recent Pew Research poll also found evidence of a more energized and unified GOP base than we saw back in 2006. the generic ballot in 2006 was also more favorable to democrats</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 06/22/18 2:35:51 PM #3:	1) isn't public opinion of the GOP much lower than that of Trump (though Democrats might be worse off, IIRC) 2) aren't Trumps numbers comparable to Obama at this point of his first term? Which precipitated the tea party wave of 2010 --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:903767814] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>1) isn't public opinion of the GOP much lower than that of Trump (though Democrats might be worse off, IIRC) 2) aren't Trumps numbers comparable to Obama at this point of his first term? Which precipitated the tea party wave of 2010</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/18 2:37:54 PM #4:	Antifar posted... 1) isn't public opinion of the GOP much lower than that of Trump (though Democrats might be worse off, IIRC) perhaps, but According to Pew data, in June 2006, about one-third of Republicans (33 percent) said their vote in the upcoming midterm was a vote FOR the president. This year, a little over half (52 percent) of Republicans said the same. Meanwhile, about as many Democrats said their vote in June of 2006 was a vote against Bush (65 percent) as it is against Trump (61 percent) now. Given what you've said regarding the relative popularity of the president vs the party, these numbers might not be as damning for Democrats as they seem (e.g., if they are voting for some reason other than Trump) but either way you slice it that looks good for the GOP relative to 2006 Antifar posted... 2) aren't Trumps numbers comparable to Obama at this point of his first term? Which precipitated the tea party wave of 2010 Good point, I'm actually not sure what Obama's numbers were like. Might be that they're doing 2006 since midterm voting differs by party affiliation? Still something to consider --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903767934] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>1) isn't public opinion of the GOP much lower than that of Trump (though Democrats might be worse off, IIRC)</quote> perhaps, but According to Pew data, in June 2006, about one-third of Republicans (33 percent) said their vote in the upcoming midterm was a vote FOR the president. This year, a little over half (52 percent) of Republicans said the same. Meanwhile, about as many Democrats said their vote in June of 2006 was a vote against Bush (65 percent) as it is against Trump (61 percent) now. Given what you've said regarding the relative popularity of the president vs the party, these numbers might not be as damning for Democrats as they seem (e.g., if they are voting for some reason other than Trump) but either way you slice it that looks good for the GOP relative to 2006 <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>2) aren't Trumps numbers comparable to Obama at this point of his first term? Which precipitated the tea party wave of 2010 </quote> Good point, I'm actually not sure what Obama's numbers were like. Might be that they're doing 2006 since midterm voting differs by party affiliation? Still something to consider</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/22/18 2:38:52 PM #5:	That's too bad. An absolutely goddamn deadlocked US government is best US government. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:903768000] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>That's too bad. An absolutely goddamn deadlocked US government is best US government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/18 3:57:51 PM #6:	bump! --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903772457] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>bump!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 06/22/18 4:28:14 PM #7:	Antifar posted... 1) isn't public opinion of the GOP much lower than that of Trump (though Democrats might be worse off, IIRC) 2) aren't Trumps numbers comparable to Obama at this point of his first term? Which precipitated the tea party wave of 2010 Trump's popularity numbers are HIGHER than Obama's going into 2010, despite 90% negative press for Trump to 70% positive press for Obama. That's always going to help down the ballot, regardless of whether or not the party is as popular as the President. The fact is, despite all the economic doom and gloom from the left over Trump's policies, we're looking at some of the best economic numbers of the last 40 years. Despite the faux outrage over child separation at the border, most voters blame the parents and not Trump. Despite all the complaining about North Korea, most Americans approve if Trump's handling of it. Despite all the spin about the IG's report, it turns out Trump was right about Comey and his favorite agents. Absolutely nothing that the Dems have been crying over since the election has actually worked out. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:903774092] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>1) isn't public opinion of the GOP much lower than that of Trump (though Democrats might be worse off, IIRC) 2) aren't Trumps numbers comparable to Obama at this point of his first term? Which precipitated the tea party wave of 2010</quote> Trump's popularity numbers are HIGHER than Obama's going into 2010, despite 90% negative press for Trump to 70% positive press for Obama. That's always going to help down the ballot, regardless of whether or not the party is as popular as the President. The fact is, despite all the economic doom and gloom from the left over Trump's policies, we're looking at some of the best economic numbers of the last 40 years. Despite the faux outrage over child separation at the border, most voters blame the parents and not Trump. Despite all the complaining about North Korea, most Americans approve if Trump's handling of it. Despite all the spin about the IG's report, it turns out Trump was right about Comey and his favorite agents. Absolutely nothing that the Dems have been crying over since the election has actually worked out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 06/22/18 4:34:27 PM #8:	Questionmarktarius posted... That's too bad. An absolutely goddamn deadlocked US government is best US government. Agreed --- Oops, I dropped my monster condom, that I use for my Magnum dong <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:903774422] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>That's too bad. An absolutely goddamn deadlocked US government is best US government.</quote> Agreed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/18 4:41:15 PM #9:	darkjedilink posted... Trump's popularity numbers are HIGHER than Obama's going into 2010, despite 90% negative press for Trump to 70% positive press for Obama. That's always going to help down the ballot, regardless of whether or not the party is as popular as the President. so, I looked into this, and that doesn't seem to be true at least according to Gallup, Trump is currently at 45/50 approve/disapprove, while Obama at this point was at 47/45 or 45/46 depending on how you want to compare the two darkjedilink posted... The fact is, despite all the economic doom and gloom from the left over Trump's policies, we're looking at some of the best economic numbers of the last 40 years. Despite the faux outrage over child separation at the border, most voters blame the parents and not Trump. Despite all the complaining about North Korea, most Americans approve if Trump's handling of it. Despite all the spin about the IG's report, it turns out Trump was right about Comey and his favorite agents. Absolutely nothing that the Dems have been crying over since the election has actually worked out. yeah this article notes that the better economic climate works in Trump's favor not sure about that family separation bit, but I'd be interested in seeing polling --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903774756] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Trump's popularity numbers are HIGHER than Obama's going into 2010, despite 90% negative press for Trump to 70% positive press for Obama. That's always going to help down the ballot, regardless of whether or not the party is as popular as the President. </quote> so, I looked into this, and that doesn't seem to be true at least according to Gallup, Trump is currently at 45/50 approve/disapprove, while Obama at this point was at 47/45 or 45/46 depending on how you want to compare the two <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>The fact is, despite all the economic doom and gloom from the left over Trump's policies, we're looking at some of the best economic numbers of the last 40 years. Despite the faux outrage over child separation at the border, most voters blame the parents and not Trump. Despite all the complaining about North Korea, most Americans approve if Trump's handling of it. Despite all the spin about the IG's report, it turns out Trump was right about Comey and his favorite agents. Absolutely nothing that the Dems have been crying over since the election has actually worked out.</quote> yeah this article notes that the better economic climate works in Trump's favor not sure about that family separation bit, but I'd be interested in seeing polling</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 06/22/18 4:43:53 PM #10:	Must be nice being able to publish self fulfilling prophecies. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:903774903] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>Must be nice being able to publish self fulfilling prophecies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/18 4:45:03 PM #11:	I mean if the cook political report is enough to kill your blue wave, it is kinda hard to imagine it lasting another 6 months --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903774978] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>I mean if the cook political report is enough to kill your blue wave, it is kinda hard to imagine it lasting another 6 months</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 06/22/18 4:56:12 PM #12:	A blue wave is not really likely to happen simply because of the seats that re coming up. Most of them are already held by dems --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:903775614] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>A blue wave is not really likely to happen simply because of the seats that re coming up. Most of them are already held by dems</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/18 4:56:49 PM #13:	everyone in the house goes up for re-election every cycle I do understand that apparnetly some people thought the senate was in play but I never thought that --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903775649] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>everyone in the house goes up for re-election every cycle I do understand that apparnetly some people thought the senate was in play but I never thought that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/22/18 5:10:10 PM #14:	Balrog0 posted... everyone in the house goes up for re-election every cycle I do understand that apparnetly some people thought the senate was in play but I never thought that Roughly a third of the senate is "in play" every other year. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:903776398] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>everyone in the house goes up for re-election every cycle I do understand that apparnetly some people thought the senate was in play but I never thought that</quote> Roughly a third of the senate is "in play" every other year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 06/22/18 5:12:27 PM #15:	Do not be lulled into a false sense of security. This is exactly what liberals want. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:903776514] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>Do not be lulled into a false sense of security. This is exactly what liberals want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/18 5:13:13 PM #16:	Questionmarktarius posted... Roughly a third of the senate is "in play" every other year. yeah but this is an awful map for democrats --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903776545] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Roughly a third of the senate is "in play" every other year.</quote> yeah but this is an awful map for democrats</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 06/22/18 5:18:34 PM #17:	Question for you Balrog: If the Dems win the House by 8 points but don't gain control of it, is that a failure on the part of Democrats or just a reflection of how skewed the House is? --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:903776852] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>Question for you Balrog: If the Dems win the House by 8 points but don't gain control of it, is that a failure on the part of Democrats or just a reflection of how skewed the House is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 06/22/18 5:32:02 PM #18:	Balrog0 posted... I mean if the cook political report is enough to kill your blue wave, it is kinda hard to imagine it lasting another 6 months America is a media state. Having nonstop slam piece coverage of someone is enough to get them elected president. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:903777621] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean if the cook political report is enough to kill your blue wave, it is kinda hard to imagine it lasting another 6 months</quote> America is a media state. Having nonstop slam piece coverage of someone is enough to get them elected president.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 06/22/18 5:38:52 PM #19:	am I reading this correctly in that they're using only the Gallup approval during the whole NK stuff? that seems a bit misleading, at best --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:903777970] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>am I reading this correctly in that they're using only the Gallup approval during the whole NK stuff? that seems a bit misleading, at best</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 06/22/18 5:39:03 PM #20:	Balrog0 posted... not sure about that family separation bit, but I'd be interested in seeing polling http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/june_2018/voters_blame_parents_not_feds_for_border_children_crisis 54% of 'likely voters' blame the parents of tue children in question, vs. 35% blaming the federal government. Even the 3% margin of error works in favor of the results. As much as Dems cry about it, it won't help in November. As a matter of fact, the leftist stance on illegal immigration has often harmed them. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:903777983] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>not sure about that family separation bit, but I'd be interested in seeing polling</quote> http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/june_2018/voters_blame_parents_not_feds_for_border_children_crisis 54% of 'likely voters' blame the parents of tue children in question, vs. 35% blaming the federal government. Even the 3% margin of error works in favor of the results. As much as Dems cry about it, it won't help in November. As a matter of fact, the leftist stance on illegal immigration has often harmed them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Y2J0_sHBK_Blue 06/22/18 5:41:20 PM #21:	People vote based on how the sitting president is doing and Trump is doing an amazing job. I'm pleasantly suprised. He got us out of that economic turmoil, ended ISIS, denuclearization of North Korea, ended the Korean war and showing no signs of slowing down. That will resonate with voters. <cite>Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted [p:903778129] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>People vote based on how the sitting president is doing and Trump is doing an amazing job. I'm pleasantly suprised. He got us out of that economic turmoil, ended ISIS, denuclearization of North Korea, ended the Korean war and showing no signs of slowing down. That will resonate with voters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate reaver 06/22/18 5:43:47 PM #23:	ive expected 8 years of trump from the get go. ill still vote against him in the midterm but getting even the shittiest presidents out of office early can be an absolute bitch, and W is a great example of that --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:903778272] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>ive expected 8 years of trump from the get go. ill still vote against him in the midterm but getting even the shittiest presidents out of office early can be an absolute bitch, and W is a great example of that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 06/22/18 5:44:45 PM #24:	Trump's approval is up because of the North Korea stuff. It's going to go back down before November. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:903778335] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>Trump's approval is up because of the North Korea stuff. It's going to go back down before November.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkTransient 06/22/18 5:48:02 PM #27:	Just beause Trump's haters are more vocal than previous presidents' haters, doesn't mean they're greater in quantity. And what do you expect when the Democrats lost the presidential election after their candidate's entire platform was "at least I'm not that guy"? --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:903778509] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>Just beause Trump's haters are more vocal than previous presidents' haters, doesn't mean they're greater in quantity. And what do you expect when the Democrats lost the presidential election after their candidate's entire platform was "at least I'm not that guy"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 06/22/18 5:50:57 PM #29:	Bullet_Wing posted... Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted... People vote based on how the sitting president is doing and Trump is doing an amazing job. I'm pleasantly suprised. He got us out of that economic turmoil, ended ISIS, denuclearization of North Korea, ended the Korean war and showing no signs of slowing down. That will resonate with voters. Are posts like this delusion or trolling? Josh is a 261 regular who migrated over to CE when they instituted their new user level requirements. Ignore him and move on. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:903778675] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...</cite> <quote>People vote based on how the sitting president is doing and Trump is doing an amazing job. I'm pleasantly suprised. He got us out of that economic turmoil, ended ISIS, denuclearization of North Korea, ended the Korean war and showing no signs of slowing down. That will resonate with voters.</quote> Are posts like this delusion or trolling?</quote> Josh is a 261 regular who migrated over to CE when they instituted their new user level requirements. Ignore him and move on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 06/22/18 5:51:37 PM #31:	Anteaterking posted... Question for you Balrog: If the Dems win the House by 8 points but don't gain control of it, is that a failure on the part of Democrats or just a reflection of how skewed the House is? at +8 it is very hard for me to imagine the problem being the democrats, though to be 100% fair the democratic base has a clustering problem so I suppose I can imagine a strategy emphasizing turning out the base (at the expense of winning over suburban whites) that could sort of lay the blame at the democrats feet DarkTransient posted... Just beause Trump's haters are more vocal than previous presidents' haters, doesn't mean they're greater in quantity I don't think they are more vocal, but I think maybe the media is more vocal about them. If you don't remember 2006, a lot of people were very angry at Bush for the simultaneous wars, especially Iraq. Trump hasn't done anything that bad. darkjedilink posted... Balrog0 posted... not sure about that family separation bit, but I'd be interested in seeing polling http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/june_2018/voters_blame_parents_not_feds_for_border_children_crisis 54% of 'likely voters' blame the parents of tue children in question, vs. 35% blaming the federal government. Even the 3% margin of error works in favor of the results. As much as Dems cry about it, it won't help in November. As a matter of fact, the leftist stance on illegal immigration has often harmed them. Very interesting numbers. I see now why some Democrats/Leftists/Liberals were talking about how Likely Voter models were underestimating the chances for Democratic candidates --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903778719] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>Question for you Balrog: If the Dems win the House by 8 points but don't gain control of it, is that a failure on the part of Democrats or just a reflection of how skewed the House is?</quote> at +8 it is very hard for me to imagine the problem being the democrats, though to be 100% fair the democratic base has a clustering problem so I suppose I can imagine a strategy emphasizing turning out the base (at the expense of winning over suburban whites) that could sort of lay the blame at the democrats feet <cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>Just beause Trump's haters are more vocal than previous presidents' haters, doesn't mean they're greater in quantity</quote> I don't think they are more vocal, but I think maybe the media is more vocal about them. If you don't remember 2006, a lot of people were very angry at Bush for the simultaneous wars, especially Iraq. Trump hasn't done anything that bad. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>not sure about that family separation bit, but I'd be interested in seeing polling</quote> http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/june_2018/voters_blame_parents_not_feds_for_border_children_crisis 54% of 'likely voters' blame the parents of tue children in question, vs. 35% blaming the federal government. Even the 3% margin of error works in favor of the results. As much as Dems cry about it, it won't help in November. As a matter of fact, the leftist stance on illegal immigration has often harmed them.</quote> Very interesting numbers. I see now why some Democrats/Leftists/Liberals were talking about how Likely Voter models were underestimating the chances for Democratic candidates</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Y2J0_sHBK_Blue 06/22/18 5:55:50 PM #32:	Bullet_Wing posted... Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted... People vote based on how the sitting president is doing and Trump is doing an amazing job. I'm pleasantly suprised. He got us out of that economic turmoil, ended ISIS, denuclearization of North Korea, ended the Korean war and showing no signs of slowing down. That will resonate with voters. Are posts like this delusion or trolling? Are you saying you expected Trump to be successful. Thus far, he is easily the best president since Reagan. I mean, sure, there is a lot of time for him to screw it up but so far, so good. Are you honestly able to say you knew a reality television star would be such a positive force for our country? I mean, yeah, I guess you could look at how he funded his election so you knew he couldn't be bought by politicians and focus on the will of the people but we all know DC has a way of warping politicians but so far his anti establishment/swamp draining is working. <cite>Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted [p:903778928] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...</cite> <quote>People vote based on how the sitting president is doing and Trump is doing an amazing job. I'm pleasantly suprised. He got us out of that economic turmoil, ended ISIS, denuclearization of North Korea, ended the Korean war and showing no signs of slowing down. That will resonate with voters.</quote> Are posts like this delusion or trolling?</quote> Are you saying you expected Trump to be successful. Thus far, he is easily the best president since Reagan. I mean, sure, there is a lot of time for him to screw it up but so far, so good. Are you honestly able to say you knew a reality television star would be such a positive force for our country? I mean, yeah, I guess you could look at how he funded his election so you knew he couldn't be bought by politicians and focus on the will of the people but we all know DC has a way of warping politicians but so far his anti establishment/swamp draining is working.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 06/22/18 5:56:19 PM #33:	Balrog0 posted... I don't think they are more vocal, but I think maybe the media is more vocal about them. If you don't remember 2006, a lot of people were very angry at Bush for the simultaneous wars, especially Iraq. I pay little attention to media when it comes to that kind of subject. I'm going off the reactions I've seen first-hand in various circles. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:903778956] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think they are more vocal, but I think maybe the media is more vocal about them. If you don't remember 2006, a lot of people were very angry at Bush for the simultaneous wars, especially Iraq.</quote> I pay little attention to media when it comes to that kind of subject. I'm going off the reactions I've seen first-hand in various circles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthGravid 06/22/18 6:04:14 PM #34:	I'm just going to leave these here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo --- Torn between two minds. Is either correct? Perhaps together.....but how? Can it be done? <cite>DarthGravid posted [p:903779380] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>I'm just going to leave these here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fuparulez 06/22/18 6:12:54 PM #35:	shockthemonkey posted... Not terribly surprising at this point, Trump has been able to control the political conversation for the most part. If the media is constantly focused on whether Trump is wrong or not, it prevents the Dems from getting any momentum for their platforms. First of all, no, Trump does not control the political conversation. The Democrats are firmly in control of what the media is talking about. They realized nobody cared about Stormy Daniels, the wheels fell off the Russian collusion investigation and they needed something else. So once again, the narrative became "Trump is HITLER!" even though the Democrats BRAGGED that they were sending away children during the Obama administration. Second of all, the Democrats keep the focus on Trump BECAUSE they don't want the focus on their platforms. More taxes, more illegals, more refugees, more gun control and more unemployment is a pretty weak starting point for winning anything in mid term elections. --- It's the fat upper kitty area, and if you got one I wanna marry ya! <cite>Fuparulez posted [p:903779903] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Not terribly surprising at this point, Trump has been able to control the political conversation for the most part. If the media is constantly focused on whether Trump is wrong or not, it prevents the Dems from getting any momentum for their platforms.</quote> First of all, no, Trump does not control the political conversation. The Democrats are firmly in control of what the media is talking about. They realized nobody cared about Stormy Daniels, the wheels fell off the Russian collusion investigation and they needed something else. So once again, the narrative became "Trump is HITLER!" even though the Democrats BRAGGED that they were sending away children during the Obama administration. Second of all, the Democrats keep the focus on Trump BECAUSE they don't want the focus on their platforms. More taxes, more illegals, more refugees, more gun control and more unemployment is a pretty weak starting point for winning anything in mid term elections.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/18 6:20:10 PM #36:	DarthGravid posted... I'm just going to leave these here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo confirms the numbers used in the OP Fuparulez posted... Second of all, the Democrats keep the focus on Trump BECAUSE they don't want the focus on their platforms. More taxes, more illegals, more refugees, more gun control and more unemployment is a pretty weak starting point for winning anything in mid term elections. they should talk about health care and immigration according to the pew numbers --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903780342] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote>I'm just going to leave these here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo</quote> confirms the numbers used in the OP <cite>Fuparulez posted...</cite> <quote>Second of all, the Democrats keep the focus on Trump BECAUSE they don't want the focus on their platforms. More taxes, more illegals, more refugees, more gun control and more unemployment is a pretty weak starting point for winning anything in mid term elections.</quote> they should talk about health care and immigration according to the pew numbers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 06/22/18 6:24:26 PM #37:	So help me God if the GOP maintains this November, this country will forever be the stupidest country in the world. Yes, quite possibly the world for not being coup'd, but for allowing voluntarily for this to happen to our country. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:903780584] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>So help me God if the GOP maintains this November, this country will forever be the stupidest country in the world. Yes, quite possibly the world for not being coup'd, but for allowing voluntarily for this to happen to our country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthGravid 06/22/18 6:53:54 PM #39:	Balrog0 posted... DarthGravid posted... I'm just going to leave these here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo confirms the numbers used in the OP I agree. This was to show that the GOP is closing the gap across all polls, and to break down the numbers and patterns for everyone to see. There is tons of information in these two links. Fivethirtyeight.com also predicted a 12.5% probability of Trump winning in 2016 while losing the popular vote, IIRC. I didn't see that prediction anywhere else. --- Torn between two minds. Is either correct? Perhaps together.....but how? Can it be done? <cite>DarthGravid posted [p:903782172] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote>I'm just going to leave these here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo</quote> confirms the numbers used in the OP</quote> I agree. This was to show that the GOP is closing the gap across all polls, and to break down the numbers and patterns for everyone to see. There is tons of information in these two links. Fivethirtyeight.com also predicted a 12.5% probability of Trump winning in 2016 while losing the popular vote, IIRC. I didn't see that prediction anywhere else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 06/22/18 6:55:34 PM #40:	Fuparulez posted... shockthemonkey posted... Not terribly surprising at this point, Trump has been able to control the political conversation for the most part. If the media is constantly focused on whether Trump is wrong or not, it prevents the Dems from getting any momentum for their platforms. First of all, no, Trump does not control the political conversation. The Democrats are firmly in control of what the media is talking about. They realized nobody cared about Stormy Daniels, the wheels fell off the Russian collusion investigation and they needed something else. So once again, the narrative became "Trump is HITLER!" even though the Democrats BRAGGED that they were sending away children during the Obama administration. Second of all, the Democrats keep the focus on Trump BECAUSE they don't want the focus on their platforms. More taxes, more illegals, more refugees, more gun control and more unemployment is a pretty weak starting point for winning anything in mid term elections. you literally have no idea whats going on around you or how news cycles work and its really, really funny --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:903782254] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fuparulez posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Not terribly surprising at this point, Trump has been able to control the political conversation for the most part. If the media is constantly focused on whether Trump is wrong or not, it prevents the Dems from getting any momentum for their platforms.</quote> First of all, no, Trump does not control the political conversation. The Democrats are firmly in control of what the media is talking about. They realized nobody cared about Stormy Daniels, the wheels fell off the Russian collusion investigation and they needed something else. So once again, the narrative became "Trump is HITLER!" even though the Democrats BRAGGED that they were sending away children during the Obama administration. Second of all, the Democrats keep the focus on Trump BECAUSE they don't want the focus on their platforms. More taxes, more illegals, more refugees, more gun control and more unemployment is a pretty weak starting point for winning anything in mid term elections.</quote> you literally have no idea whats going on around you or how news cycles work and its really, really funny</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 06/22/18 6:55:46 PM #41:	We just need to get Democrat senator's in their news is all --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:903782269] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>We just need to get Democrat senator's in their news is all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/18 7:19:00 PM #42:	DarthGravid posted... Balrog0 posted... DarthGravid posted... I'm just going to leave these here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo confirms the numbers used in the OP I agree. This was to show that the GOP is closing the gap across all polls, and to break down the numbers and patterns for everyone to see. There is tons of information in these two links. Fivethirtyeight.com also predicted a 12.5% probability of Trump winning in 2016 while losing the popular vote, IIRC. I didn't see that prediction anywhere else. Gotcha bud They did indeed say that. They were, in general, pretty good at predicting which states trump needed to win, as well --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903783519] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote>I'm just going to leave these here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo</quote> confirms the numbers used in the OP</quote> I agree. This was to show that the GOP is closing the gap across all polls, and to break down the numbers and patterns for everyone to see. There is tons of information in these two links. Fivethirtyeight.com also predicted a 12.5% probability of Trump winning in 2016 while losing the popular vote, IIRC. I didn't see that prediction anywhere else.</quote> Gotcha bud They did indeed say that. They were, in general, pretty good at predicting which states trump needed to win, as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 06/22/18 8:01:05 PM #43:	Sayoria posted... So help me God if the GOP maintains this November, this country will forever be the stupidest country in the world. Yes, quite possibly the world for not being coup'd, but for allowing voluntarily for this to happen to our country. Allowing what? A prevention of liberal fascism? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:903785642] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>So help me God if the GOP maintains this November, this country will forever be the stupidest country in the world. Yes, quite possibly the world for not being coup'd, but for allowing voluntarily for this to happen to our country.</quote> Allowing what? A prevention of liberal fascism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 06/22/18 8:05:46 PM #44:	I'm not even sure what constitutes as a blue wave. They have a very good chance of flipping the house right now but not the senate. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:903785877] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>I'm not even sure what constitutes as a blue wave. They have a very good chance of flipping the house right now but not the senate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 06/22/18 8:08:30 PM #45:	darkjedilink posted... liberal fascism God you're nutty lol Zero_Destroyer posted... I'm not even sure what constitutes as a blue wave. They have a very good chance of flipping the house right now but not the senate. I'd say they're definitely the favorite to take the House at this point. (Polling aside, they've overperformed in every single election since 2016) The Senate is a wild card but I think there'll be some surprises on election night --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:903786014] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>liberal fascism</quote> God you're nutty lol <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not even sure what constitutes as a blue wave. They have a very good chance of flipping the house right now but not the senate.</quote> I'd say they're definitely the favorite to take the House at this point. (Polling aside, they've overperformed in every single election since 2016) The Senate is a wild card but I think there'll be some surprises on election night</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 06/22/18 8:11:26 PM #46:	They have to defend too many iffy seats for me to be at all confident in them to take the Senate. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:903786167] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>They have to defend too many iffy seats for me to be at all confident in them to take the Senate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 06/22/18 8:18:56 PM #47:	shockthemonkey posted... Fuparulez posted... shockthemonkey posted... Not terribly surprising at this point, Trump has been able to control the political conversation for the most part. If the media is constantly focused on whether Trump is wrong or not, it prevents the Dems from getting any momentum for their platforms. First of all, no, Trump does not control the political conversation. The Democrats are firmly in control of what the media is talking about. They realized nobody cared about Stormy Daniels, the wheels fell off the Russian collusion investigation and they needed something else. So once again, the narrative became "Trump is HITLER!" even though the Democrats BRAGGED that they were sending away children during the Obama administration. Second of all, the Democrats keep the focus on Trump BECAUSE they don't want the focus on their platforms. More taxes, more illegals, more refugees, more gun control and more unemployment is a pretty weak starting point for winning anything in mid term elections. Trump: tweets anything Media: nom nom nom nom Trump: trollface --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:903786537] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fuparulez posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Not terribly surprising at this point, Trump has been able to control the political conversation for the most part. If the media is constantly focused on whether Trump is wrong or not, it prevents the Dems from getting any momentum for their platforms.</quote> First of all, no, Trump does not control the political conversation. The Democrats are firmly in control of what the media is talking about. They realized nobody cared about Stormy Daniels, the wheels fell off the Russian collusion investigation and they needed something else. So once again, the narrative became "Trump is HITLER!" even though the Democrats BRAGGED that they were sending away children during the Obama administration. Second of all, the Democrats keep the focus on Trump BECAUSE they don't want the focus on their platforms. More taxes, more illegals, more refugees, more gun control and more unemployment is a pretty weak starting point for winning anything in mid term elections.</quote> Trump: tweets anything Media: nom nom nom nom Trump: trollface</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 06/22/18 8:21:29 PM #48:	UnholyMudcrab posted... They have to defend too many iffy seats for me to be at all confident in them to take the Senate. They have to defend them because they've won them before though. That's the thing a lot of people aren't realizing. A lot of these red state senators are in states that go red by heavy amounts, but the senators themselves are quite popular. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:903786651] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>They have to defend too many iffy seats for me to be at all confident in them to take the Senate.</quote> They have to defend them because they've won them before though. That's the thing a lot of people aren't realizing. A lot of these red state senators are in states that go red by heavy amounts, but the senators themselves are quite popular.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 06/22/18 8:23:08 PM #49:	Honestly, no one knows anything. Most people pegged Hillary to win and look what happened >_> --- https://imgur.com/nlaY1qH https://imgur.com/zHJ1OCo https://imgur.com/btBPP4E https://imgur.com/1B3bMHw <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:903786730] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, no one knows anything. Most people pegged Hillary to win and look what happened >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/22/18 8:29:00 PM #50:	Funbazooka posted... So, uh... I can't really tell if this is fake or not. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:903787020] in Another el... [t:76739991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote></quote> So, uh... I can't really tell if this is fake or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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