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cjsdowg
06/22/18 7:50:16 AM
#52:


AlisLandale posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
AlisLandale posted...
This poster just comes off as completely dumb and out of touch with reality, without some examples of frivolous police calls to justify its existence. >~>


definitely this poster is the one that's out of touch with reality
not the person acting like there haven't been a string of "frivolous police calls" that gained national attention multiple times in the past three months


So what percentage of police calls do these incidents make up? And out of those frivolous calls how many go sour?

The poster presents the issue as a epidemic, but fails to put the problem into any context besides " did you see the news?"

Might as well make a poster "alternatives to comitting murder" >~>

You also have to know your audience. How many students walking by and seeing this poster are the type to call the cops frivously, and would benefit from seeing this poster? Its "preaching to the choir" at best and completely condescending at worst.


https://www.vox.com/first-person/2018/5/30/17406092/race-911-white-lady-calls-police-on-black-family-bbq-oakland
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06/22/18 7:50:24 AM
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The people calling the cops for "suspicious" (i.e. brown) people walking around their neighborhood, calling the cops for a family barbecuing where they're not supposed to, calling the cops because they assume brown people shopping in a nice store means they're shoplifting, are always white. Therefore, it makes sense to target white people when telling them to stop.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/22/18 7:56:42 AM
#54:


AlisLandale posted...
So what percentage of police calls do these incidents make up? And out of those frivolous calls how many go sour?

"if you can't ass pull me some specific numbers from a study that has not been done i'm going to dismiss your claim despite plenty of national news attention anecdotal evidence that it does happen more than it needs to"
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tennisdude818
06/22/18 7:59:28 AM
#55:


YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
AlisLandale posted...
So what percentage of police calls do these incidents make up? And out of those frivolous calls how many go sour?

"if you can't ass pull me some specific numbers from a study that has not been done i'm going to dismiss your claim despite plenty of national news attention anecdotal evidence that it does happen more than it needs to"


Same goes for fake hate crimes and false rape accusations. Pretty sure those posters would be considered highly inappropriate on campus.
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Howl
06/22/18 8:01:47 AM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
Need more context to this.


Marquette Empowerment bills itself as the schools ONLY intersectional feminist organization for women, men, and nonbinary folks who strive to combat injustices concerning ALL PEOPLE, explaining that it focuses on issues such as misogyny, transphobia, heterosexism, slut-shaming, victim blaming, cissexism, classism, homophobia, xenophobia, Islamophobia, ableism, racism, and any other form of bigotry.


Wtf is cissexism?
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Mist_Turnips
06/22/18 8:02:57 AM
#57:


Shit like this only makes me want to do it more.

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Also snitches get stitches.

I have yet to see a CEmen say this that wasn't cringy as fuck.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/22/18 8:03:20 AM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Same goes for fake hate crimes and false rape accusations. Pretty sure those posters would be considered highly inappropriate on campus.

your mistake was assuming all of these things are comparable

"stop calling the police" is clearly about not wasting resources and unnecessarily complicating people's lives over your stupid prejudice. in this case it's about the specific dynamic of white people re: minorities, and the power they wield

fake hate crimes and false rape is a maliciousness issue, not something borne of bias and ignorance
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Quicksilver
06/22/18 8:12:06 AM
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It is best to call the police and let them sort the problem out people are crazy these days. Good luck talking to or resolving any problem with some narcissistic jerk who can't possibly accept the fact that they are wrong and who only cares about themselves. Having lived in apartments and taken public transportation some people are just impossible to deal with and do not care if they are being an inconvenience to others and there is a very high chance if you confront them they will react with violence.
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tennisdude818
06/22/18 8:18:27 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Same goes for fake hate crimes and false rape accusations. Pretty sure those posters would be considered highly inappropriate on campus.

your mistake was assuming all of these things are comparable

"stop calling the police" is clearly about not wasting resources and unnecessarily complicating people's lives over your stupid prejudice. in this case it's about the specific dynamic of white people re: minorities, and the power they wield

fake hate crimes and false rape is a maliciousness issue, not something borne of bias and ignorance


If you dont think the analogy works, you can change it if you want. But the point is that a group of conservatives would be destroyed if they called out black folks for anything. The same standard doesnt apply for this group of SJWs.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/22/18 8:20:28 AM
#61:


tennisdude818 posted...
But the point is that a group of conservatives would be destroyed if they called out black folks for anything. The same standard doesnt apply for this group of SJWs.

understand power dynamics

white people outnumber black people by a LOT
white people historically oppressed and persecuted black people a LOT
black people still experience institutional racism (and institution run and owned mostly by white people) a LOT

i understand how it must look but you really have to accept that there IS a difference because of skin color
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Kineth
06/22/18 8:22:31 AM
#62:


tennisdude818 posted...
If you dont think the analogy works, you can change it if you want. But the point is that a group of conservatives would be destroyed if they called out black folks for anything. The same standard doesnt apply for this group of SJWs.


Is that really the point?
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Zodd3224
06/22/18 8:24:45 AM
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tennisdude818
06/22/18 8:27:09 AM
#64:


YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
But the point is that a group of conservatives would be destroyed if they called out black folks for anything. The same standard doesnt apply for this group of SJWs.

understand power dynamics

white people outnumber black people by a LOT
white people historically oppressed and persecuted black people a LOT
black people still experience institutional racism (and institution run and owned mostly by white people) a LOT

i understand how it must look but you really have to accept that there IS a difference because of skin color


I am aware that the double standard exists because people on the left believe in Critical Race Theory.
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Abyssea
06/22/18 8:28:04 AM
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Kineth
06/22/18 8:28:24 AM
#66:


tennisdude818 posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
But the point is that a group of conservatives would be destroyed if they called out black folks for anything. The same standard doesnt apply for this group of SJWs.

understand power dynamics

white people outnumber black people by a LOT
white people historically oppressed and persecuted black people a LOT
black people still experience institutional racism (and institution run and owned mostly by white people) a LOT

i understand how it must look but you really have to accept that there IS a difference because of skin color


I am aware that the double standard exists because people on the left believe in Critical Race Theory.


I have no idea what you're talking about, but you should really be using Occam's Razor here.
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cjsdowg
06/22/18 8:29:51 AM
#67:


Abyssea posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJkjjpFM97w" data-time="


Why did you post that ?
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Antifar
06/22/18 8:30:04 AM
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tennisdude818
06/22/18 8:30:56 AM
#69:


Kineth posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If you dont think the analogy works, you can change it if you want. But the point is that a group of conservatives would be destroyed if they called out black folks for anything. The same standard doesnt apply for this group of SJWs.


Is that really the point?


Of my analogy? Yes.
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Abyssea
06/22/18 8:31:47 AM
#70:


cjsdowg posted...
Abyssea posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJkjjpFM97w" data-time="


What did you post that ?


just the premise made me think of the time Christine maced a gamestop employee and told them "don't call anybody!!!"
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Kineth
06/22/18 8:32:21 AM
#71:


tennisdude818 posted...
Kineth posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If you dont think the analogy works, you can change it if you want. But the point is that a group of conservatives would be destroyed if they called out black folks for anything. The same standard doesnt apply for this group of SJWs.


Is that really the point?


Of my analogy? Yes.


I get that, but what's the point?
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iPhone_7
06/22/18 8:32:28 AM
#72:


tennisdude818 posted...
A student organization at Marquette University is asking "white folks" to "STOP CALLING THE COPS" and instead try to resolve threatening situations on their own.

Um, a threatening situation is definately one where law enforcement should get involved.

Maybe they should have used the word dispute instead.

Its not a threatening situation until a threat of violence is made on a person or property.
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DifferentialEquation
06/22/18 8:32:51 AM
#73:


You know how people are now kicked out of school or fired from their jobs if they make a racist joke or comment on facebook?

Give it a few more years. The same thing is going to happen to people who call the cops on non-white people committing crimes.
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Kineth
06/22/18 8:37:06 AM
#74:


iPhone_7 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
A student organization at Marquette University is asking "white folks" to "STOP CALLING THE COPS" and instead try to resolve threatening situations on their own.

Um, a threatening situation is definately one where law enforcement should get involved. Maybe they should have used the word dispute instead.


I think in this case, they're using threatening to mean the feeling of dread and threat that some people feel when proximal to a black person, that causes them to feel the need to call the cops.
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itachi15243
06/22/18 8:44:01 AM
#75:


I don't know if I see someone get shot,and I'm not next that sounds like inconvenience. And taking a buddy to talk to a guy who already shot someone?

Well, I guess I'm not doing that. Only an inconvenience. Hope he doesn't shoot again
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Kineth
06/22/18 8:48:04 AM
#76:


itachi15243 posted...
I don't know if I see someone get shot,and I'm not next that sounds like inconvenience. And taking a buddy to talk to a guy who already shot someone?

Well, I guess I'm not doing that. Only an inconvenience. Hope he doesn't shoot again


This isn't the type of situation they're talking about.
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CableZL
06/22/18 9:28:10 AM
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itachi15243
06/22/18 9:28:19 AM
#78:


Kineth posted...
itachi15243 posted...
I don't know if I see someone get shot,and I'm not next that sounds like inconvenience. And taking a buddy to talk to a guy who already shot someone?

Well, I guess I'm not doing that. Only an inconvenience. Hope he doesn't shoot again


This isn't the type of situation they're talking about.


Than what is it about? The only stuff ones I can think of that's not call 911 ASAP is shit like noise violations and smoking.
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CableZL
06/22/18 9:28:40 AM
#79:


itachi15243 posted...
Than what is it about? The only stuff ones I can think of that's not call 911 ASAP is s*** like noise violations and smoking.


Stuff like

CableZL posted...
Antifar posted...
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tennisdude818
06/22/18 12:28:33 PM
#80:


Kineth posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Kineth posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If you dont think the analogy works, you can change it if you want. But the point is that a group of conservatives would be destroyed if they called out black folks for anything. The same standard doesnt apply for this group of SJWs.


Is that really the point?


Of my analogy? Yes.


I get that, but what's the point?


Whats the point of highlighting a double standard? I think diversity requires consistent rules to remain functional.
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Makeveli_lives
06/22/18 12:34:04 PM
#81:


Tmk posted...
Yeah the US has a great track record of things working out better when people decide to handle things themselves instead letting the police handle it.

Pretty sure this is in regards to non violent situations. If it hits that point, as a black guy I have no problems with police stepping up to the plate
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Kineth
06/22/18 12:39:14 PM
#82:


tennisdude818 posted...
Kineth posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Kineth posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If you dont think the analogy works, you can change it if you want. But the point is that a group of conservatives would be destroyed if they called out black folks for anything. The same standard doesnt apply for this group of SJWs.


Is that really the point?


Of my analogy? Yes.


I get that, but what's the point?


Whats the point of highlighting a double standard? I think diversity requires consistent rules to remain functional.


Consistency is being asked for in terms of not jumping the gun on calling the police because a person is simply present. I mean, look at the demographics of people who sport "Blue Lives Matter" paraphernalia. This isn't a statement in a bubble outside of history or context and once again, it's not talking about all white people. I mean, if we wanted consistency, racial profiling wouldn't be a thing. I would continue doing more "if we wanted consistency" statements, but I'll spare ya, but considering the one I posted, that's a pretty good validation of the statement.

This isn't a matter of diversity, this is a matter of prejudice and bias.
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spanky1
06/22/18 4:08:56 PM
#83:


I'm annoyed at regressive leftists as much as anyone else, but...I pretty much agree with that poster. It's basically saying only call the cops if it's a true emergency, which is what you should do. If you can handle it yourself or if it's not a big deal, there's no need to call the cops.

The only thing annoying about the poster is it singling out white people. Seems like a shitty thing to do.

Edit: Wait, wtf? I don't see "white folks" anywhere on that poster. Where does the article get that?
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catboy0_0
06/22/18 4:11:01 PM
#84:


cjsdowg posted...
John_Galt posted...
This is why trump won


Racist people calling the cops on black people for no reason.. yeah those type of people is why trump won.

well he's not wrong if you think about it racist white people wanted Trump to win
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spanky1
06/22/18 4:20:52 PM
#85:


YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
But the point is that a group of conservatives would be destroyed if they called out black folks for anything. The same standard doesnt apply for this group of SJWs.

understand power dynamics

white people outnumber black people by a LOT
white people historically oppressed and persecuted black people a LOT
black people still experience institutional racism (and institution run and owned mostly by white people) a LOT

i understand how it must look but you really have to accept that there IS a difference because of skin color

It's always depressing when you see stuff like this. I mean, of course reasonable and intelligent people understand the concepts of historical oppression, population statistics, and institutional racism. Of course these things exist. But a lot of times people use them as excuses to treat another race unfairly. I just can't understand that kind of logic. At the end of the day, it boils down to "it's okay if we treat white people unfairly, because of these reasons."

But it's never good to treat another race unfairly, no matter what the circumstances or the degree of unfairness. To do so proves you're no less than monster than racists of years past.
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DifferentialEquation
06/22/18 5:09:04 PM
#86:


spanky1 posted...
I'm annoyed at regressive leftists as much as anyone else, but...I pretty much agree with that poster. It's basically saying only call the cops if it's a true emergency, which is what you should do. If you can handle it yourself or if it's not a big deal, there's no need to call the cops.


This is common sense, though.

Yes, occasionally police calls are not justified. And occasionally the person who had the cops called on them is black.

However, the left is acting like there's some widespread problem of people automatically being suspicious or afraid of a black person for no other reason than their skin color and then calling the cops. And that's simply not true.
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tennisdude818
06/22/18 7:04:11 PM
#87:


spanky1 posted...
I'm annoyed at regressive leftists as much as anyone else, but...I pretty much agree with that poster. It's basically saying only call the cops if it's a true emergency, which is what you should do. If you can handle it yourself or if it's not a big deal, there's no need to call the cops.

The only thing annoying about the poster is it singling out white people. Seems like a shitty thing to do.

Edit: Wait, wtf? I don't see "white folks" anywhere on that poster. Where does the article get that?


The group made a Facebook post with the poster and called out white people in that post. You can see it by following links on the original article.
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mario2000
06/22/18 7:05:55 PM
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darkprince45
06/22/18 7:06:08 PM
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I agree. Majority of calls I go on are civil matter or things that people could do if they could just communicate and treat each with respect. Glorified problem solved in most regards of the job.
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dreamvoid
06/22/18 7:07:40 PM
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the student organization is correct. many times cops are called when there is no need for them whatsoever.
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Roshon
06/22/18 7:07:56 PM
#91:


DifferentialEquation posted...
spanky1 posted...
I'm annoyed at regressive leftists as much as anyone else, but...I pretty much agree with that poster. It's basically saying only call the cops if it's a true emergency, which is what you should do. If you can handle it yourself or if it's not a big deal, there's no need to call the cops.


This is common sense, though.

Yes, occasionally police calls are not justified. And occasionally the person who had the cops called on them is black.

However, the left is acting like there's some widespread problem of people automatically being suspicious or afraid of a black person for no other reason than their skin color and then calling the cops. And that's simply not true.


It is true. Everyday theres a new story, and that doesnt even account for all the instances that dont make the news.
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tennisdude818
06/22/18 7:40:24 PM
#92:


Kineth posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Kineth posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Kineth posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If you dont think the analogy works, you can change it if you want. But the point is that a group of conservatives would be destroyed if they called out black folks for anything. The same standard doesnt apply for this group of SJWs.


Is that really the point?


Of my analogy? Yes.


I get that, but what's the point?


Whats the point of highlighting a double standard? I think diversity requires consistent rules to remain functional.


Consistency is being asked for in terms of not jumping the gun on calling the police because a person is simply present. I mean, look at the demographics of people who sport "Blue Lives Matter" paraphernalia. This isn't a statement in a bubble outside of history or context and once again, it's not talking about all white people. I mean, if we wanted consistency, racial profiling wouldn't be a thing. I would continue doing more "if we wanted consistency" statements, but I'll spare ya, but considering the one I posted, that's a pretty good validation of the statement.

This isn't a matter of diversity, this is a matter of prejudice and bias.


You are saying they arent talking about all white people but that requires a somewhat charitable reading of their use of white folk on the Facebook post. On the other side of the coin, white conservatives are accused of dog whistling when they dont even mention race.
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catboy0_0
06/22/18 11:34:59 PM
#93:


People REALLY shouldn't call cops at the drop of a hat. Just because you feel morally superior or prejudiced doesn't require you to call cops. You should really only call the cops when you feel your life or the life of others is in genuine danger.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
06/22/18 11:41:06 PM
#94:


Say shitty thing to me because of my race, okay.

Imagine these racist fucks when whites are a minority....oh boy. At least then judging me based on skin color would finally be deemed racist as opposed to "you had it coming, your great great great grandpa was a dick".
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Jerry_Hellyeah
06/22/18 11:57:42 PM
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The establishment would be done for if it said black people, but apparently systematic oppresion is the only indicator of racism, not bigotry or discrimination.
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Kineth
06/23/18 6:40:47 AM
#96:


tennisdude818 posted...
Kineth posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Kineth posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Kineth posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
If you dont think the analogy works, you can change it if you want. But the point is that a group of conservatives would be destroyed if they called out black folks for anything. The same standard doesnt apply for this group of SJWs.


Is that really the point?


Of my analogy? Yes.


I get that, but what's the point?


Whats the point of highlighting a double standard? I think diversity requires consistent rules to remain functional.


Consistency is being asked for in terms of not jumping the gun on calling the police because a person is simply present. I mean, look at the demographics of people who sport "Blue Lives Matter" paraphernalia. This isn't a statement in a bubble outside of history or context and once again, it's not talking about all white people. I mean, if we wanted consistency, racial profiling wouldn't be a thing. I would continue doing more "if we wanted consistency" statements, but I'll spare ya, but considering the one I posted, that's a pretty good validation of the statement.

This isn't a matter of diversity, this is a matter of prejudice and bias.


You are saying they arent talking about all white people but that requires a somewhat charitable reading of their use of white folk on the Facebook post. On the other side of the coin, white conservatives are accused of dog whistling when they dont even mention race.


It's not being charitable, it's just the fact of the matter. And the point of the label "dog whistling" is due to the fact that they purposefully don't mention race so only a tuned ear would be able to hear it while an unaware one wouldn't even notice. I know you're easily able to see that difference.
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