Current Events > The Shape of Water is SJW trash at the highest possible level. *Spoilers*

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I've honestly never seen a more pretentious movie in my life. The disabled woman who is into literal bestiality, the black lady, and the gay man are all virtuous heroes, and the EVIL WHITE MAN is a murderous bigot. Yawn
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So did you complain about the villains in Temple of Doom using this sorta logic or...?
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idk about all of that

it's just legitimately a garbage film except for one good scene
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going hard for that victim card.
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Darmik posted...

So did you complain about the villains in Temple of Doom using this sorta logic or...?

Never seen it tbh.
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no wonder it won best picture.
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Howl posted...

Darmik posted...

So did you complain about the villains in Temple of Doom using this sorta logic or...?

Never seen it tbh.

"I've literally watched some weird Shymalan or whatever movie but at the same time have literally not watched Temple of Doom"

We argue a lot but I feel like you should know better than this man
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Is being a furry really bestiality?
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XplodnPnguins92 posted...

no wonder it won best picture.

it's better than Around the World in 80 Days and Cavalcade, at least.
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My Dad voted for bush twice and mccain in 2012

my dad loved that movie

my dad is an SJW i guess
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Is anywhere else as bad as CE about the SJW paranoia bullshit? Like, do people in real life really go around complaining about the SJW bogeyman to justify hating pretty much everything under the sun? Isn't there a great irony that the people who argue that an action movie is just a movie with no deeper incentive to commit violence being the ones who are looking for secret SJW messages in every single piece of media they encounter?

It's sad that this new bogeyman has somehow become more commonly accepted than the bullshit nebulous, poorly defined, imaginary evils that preceded it like the Illuminati.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Howl posted...

Darmik posted...

So did you complain about the villains in Temple of Doom using this sorta logic or...?

Never seen it tbh.

"I've literally watched some weird Shymalan or whatever movie but at the same time have literally not watched Temple of Doom"

We argue a lot but I feel like you should know better than this man

I'll never understand people who openly watch things they should know going in will piss them off. Seems just, weird.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Is anywhere else as bad as CE about the SJW paranoia bullshit? Like, do people in real life really go around complaining about the SJW bogeyman to justify hating pretty much everything under the sun? Isn't there a great irony that the people who argue that an action movie is just a movie with no deeper incentive to commit violence being the ones who are looking for secret SJW messages in every single piece of media they encounter?

It's sad that this new bogeyman has somehow become more commonly accepted than the bullshit nebulous, poorly defined, imaginary evils that preceded it like the Illuminati.

It's getting really weird.

Like even Star Wars has it now.

Apparently having main characters who aren't white dudes in their mid-20's is enough to be 'SJW'
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btw, The Best Years of Our Lives is the best BP winner.

okay I'm done, I promise.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Howl posted...

Darmik posted...

So did you complain about the villains in Temple of Doom using this sorta logic or...?

Never seen it tbh.

"I've literally watched some weird Shymalan or whatever movie but at the same time have literally not watched Temple of Doom"

We argue a lot but I feel like you should know better than this man

The movie won Best Picture. It's not just some random movie.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Howl posted...

Darmik posted...

So did you complain about the villains in Temple of Doom using this sorta logic or...?

Never seen it tbh.

"I've literally watched some weird Shymalan or whatever movie but at the same time have literally not watched Temple of Doom"

We argue a lot but I feel like you should know better than this man

I'll never understand people who openly watch things they should know going in will piss them off. Seems just, weird.

I don't understand people who openly didn't watch temple of doom...

I got FUCKED in the head in that movie. I was too young pretty much and that one scene was just holy fuck like you do not let a kid at the young age I was at see something like that. More than nightmares. I drew disturbing pictures in class in elementary school after that scene for a few weeks following seeing that movie. Hit me hard, bro :/. Of course I watch it now and I'm all "ayyyyy how 'bout that DKC minecard scene lmao! :D" but that hit me hard as a kid and I was terrified for a while. Probably should have been PG13 tbh.. granted I hadn't seen the first Indiana Jones and the 3rd wasn't out yet, so my parents didn't really have anything to go on. Still, TOO MUCH. I appreciate the fuck out of it now though lol
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Probably should have been PG13 tbh

It's actually the principle reason that the PG-13 category was created. It didn't exist before the movie. I believe that most places retroactively label it as PG-13 now, though.

The Shape of Water was a masterpiece and it was beautifully shot. Too bad some people can't understand art.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

The Shape of Water was a masterpiece and it was beautifully shot. Too bad some people can't understand art.

By "masterpiece" I guess you mean that the script sounds like it was written by a first year Sociology major.
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Dash_Harber posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Probably should have been PG13 tbh

It's actually the principle reason that the PG-13 category was created. It didn't exist before the movie. I believe that most places retroactively label it as PG-13 now, though.

hoooo.... llllyyy.... fuck. If you are serious, you just literally validated my childhood, man :P (or probably, I'm laughing, such a great scene in retrospect but it really did kick me in the dick and face when I was that young tbh)
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Phantom_Nook posted...

btw, The Best Years of Our Lives is the best BP winner.

good taste
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Howl posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

The Shape of Water was a masterpiece and it was beautifully shot. Too bad some people can't understand art.

By "masterpiece" I guess you mean that the script sounds like it was written by a first year Sociology major.

The writing was great too. The acting was also great. Michael Shannon did a hell of a job as always. Stop being so sensitive.
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And yeah it's supposed to be like that, Shape of Water is supposed to be basically a more modern, grown up fairy tale story.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Probably should have been PG13 tbh

It's actually the principle reason that the PG-13 category was created. It didn't exist before the movie. I believe that most places retroactively label it as PG-13 now, though.

hoooo.... llllyyy.... fuck. If you are serious, you just literally validated my childhood, man :P (or probably, I'm laughing, such a great scene in retrospect but it really did kick me in the dick and face when I was that young tbh)

Yeah man, according to Wikipedia;

The film was released to financial success, but initial reviews were mixed, which criticized its violence, later contributing to the creation of the PG-13 rating.

So yeah, you definitely were not alone in how you felt.

I proud of that and my only regret is that I didn't know until tonight.

Edit: Oh, you fucker...
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How is it beastiality? She is literally an under developed mermaid. Or did you miss that part because of too much dialogue
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Idk why people wouldn't like the movie, going into it knowing who is behind it.
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Phantom_Nook posted...

btw, The Best Years of Our Lives is the best BP winner.

okay I'm done, I promise.

Great movie-- fist bump for you bro!

Dunno why people get bothered by this kind of shit. I thought it was a good movie.
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DD Divine posted...

How is it beastiality? She is literally an under developed mermaid. Or did you miss that part because of too much dialogue

It was 1 line of dialogue and her reveal to have gills at the end. That was just an utterly stupid plot point.
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Howl posted...

DD Divine posted...

How is it beastiality? She is literally an under developed mermaid. Or did you miss that part because of too much dialogue

It was 1 line of dialogue and her reveal to have gills at the end. That was just an utterly stupid plot point.

I don't agree with Howl about most of this topic , but yeah Mermaids are mammals so they would not have gills .
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cjsdowg posted...

Howl posted...

DD Divine posted...

How is it beastiality? She is literally an under developed mermaid. Or did you miss that part because of too much dialogue

It was 1 line of dialogue and her reveal to have gills at the end. That was just an utterly stupid plot point.

I don't agree with Howl about most of this topic , but yeah Mermaids are mammals so they would not have gills .

You do know that mermaids are mythological right?
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I thought it was weird that the chick was a habitual, furious masturbator.
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Unironically using the term "SJW" is a good way to establish credibility.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Is anywhere else as bad as CE about the SJW paranoia bullshit? Like, do people in real life really go around complaining about the SJW bogeyman to justify hating pretty much everything under the sun? Isn't there a great irony that the people who argue that an action movie is just a movie with no deeper incentive to commit violence being the ones who are looking for secret SJW messages in every single piece of media they encounter?

In other places on the internet? Hell yes. In real life? I haven't seen it, but maybe there are communities that complain about this bullshit a lot.
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I thought the creature gave her gills because it was a God.
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I think zootopia is the biggest "not all" sjw crap I've seen recently.
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The Shape of Water is based on a true story.
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@Howl disappoints me. Any follower of Sam Harris is expected to be a good thinker, but no he has been brainwashed by conservative infiltrators like Dave Rubin on the Joe Rogan podcast.

8-bit_Biceps posted...

@Howl disappoints me. Any follower of Sam Harris is expected to be a good thinker, but no he has been brainwashed by conservative infiltrators like Dave Rubin on the Joe Rogan podcast.

Sam Harris isn't the only person I listen to. I learned about him from Bill Maher's show when him and Maher were arguing with Ben Affleck about Islam. I kinda just talk shit about SJWs here because it's fun.

The movie was legitimately bad though. For example they straight up say the creature was from the Amazon rainforest which means it was either from a lake or a river, most likely the Amazon River. In either case it would not live in salt water, yet the scientist tells her it can only live in salt water and that she has to add salt to the water he's in.

Just stupid bs like this all throughout the movie. He leaves her apartment onto what's shown to be a busy street even at night and no one noticed a Merman walking around.

It's not that it's meant to be whimsical and fairy tale esque, that bothers me, it's that the villain is so utterly 1 dimensional, that I don't know how the actor managed to pull off any of the scenes he was in.

I've heard that actors have to have at least 4 levels of motivation for any given scene they are in to be able to act it out in a believable manner, but holy shit if this dude isn't the biggest stereotype of an evil white man written in a modern movie. He has at most 2 motivations in any given scene at best. And both of them are to be as awful as Guillermo Del Toro could think a white man in the time period could be expressed as.
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Darmik posted...

I thought the creature gave her gills because it was a God.

I think its supposed to be ambiguous.

Anyways, the reason the heroes are all "oppressed" and the hero is a straight-faced white dude is because its a reflection of how monsters in these films are traditionally treated. Thats also the reason this takes place in the 60s, where those sort of societal predjudices were far more open and pronounced.

Also remember the gay man wasnt always a good guy. He constantly insisted against the monsters "humanity" and didnt come around until he learned he was being treated terribly, and probably always would be, and it put the monster's plight into perspective. Also, their Russian ally is white and has compassion for the monster, so its not a case of "all the minorities are so righteous against the evil white man"

Go back, watch the old Universal monster movies (definitely Creature from the Black Lagoon), then rewatch this one. >~>

But yeah, everything about Strickland was weird and uncomcortable. I don't know if it was intentional, but he could be another victim in all this.

Remember when hes getting chewed out by his superior. It sort of paints this picture of a once-good man who broke under the pressures of society. And thats another monster movie trope, most famous in Frankenstein (the novel. P sure he was innocent in the film lol). The monster is evil, but were warped into that state of mind by the world around them. It doesnt make them sympathetic, but does add a layer of tragedy.
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cjsdowg posted...

Is being a furry really bestiality?

Let's be honest, it's not much better >_>
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Howl posted...

The movie was legitimately bad though.

Wow, look at all the relatively measured arguments against the film in this post (I wouldn't know if they're valid, I haven't seen it).

Yet Howl led the topic with his usual anti-SJW schtick because he knows no one will pay attention to him otherwise.
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The concept of mermaids that you know are mammals. Obviously here they are more fish like.
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NeonOctopus posted...

cjsdowg posted...

Is being a furry really bestiality?

Let's be honest, it's not much better >_>

For some reason this is a topic people like to speak about a lot here. I will link you do this post about it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76728075
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