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xyphilia
06/16/18 12:30:33 PM
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Restaurant every single day and eat there? Is there any consideration for the fact that I'm bringing them business every single day?

Or is it better that I dine there once and leave a big tip but never return because I don't want to keep giving tips that could have accumulated into a whole meal?

Just wondering what the general etiquette is considered in usa.
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Patty_Fleur
06/16/18 12:32:19 PM
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You tip every time unless you want to be a scumbag. If she's cute tip more. If she's cute and still in college tip even more.
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Error1355
06/16/18 12:32:52 PM
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Just the tip.

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Wait what?
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xyphilia
06/16/18 12:34:09 PM
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Why should her level of attractiveness matter as opposed to how well she served the food in a timely manner?
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/16/18 12:34:11 PM
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Tip $3 or $4 max.
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EliteLevel
06/16/18 12:45:27 PM
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Give her the tip. If she likes what she sees shell meet you round the back in 5 minutes.
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averagejoel
06/16/18 12:46:08 PM
#8:


if you can't afford to tip every day, don't eat out every day.
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xyphilia
06/16/18 1:17:42 PM
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A bizarre sentiment, but I guess this culture is just different across the pond. It is what it is
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KingKongKnows
06/16/18 1:18:53 PM
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tipping is done to pay the waiters because the salary is too low to live on
what you buy is giving profit to the owners only
so basically you have to pay twice once for the waiter and once for the owner
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xyphilia
06/16/18 1:21:32 PM
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Isn't the idea of minimum wage that the salary has to be able to be lived on? I remember reading something to that effect once.
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Musourenka
06/16/18 1:21:48 PM
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If you're eating out, you should be tipping.
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KingKongKnows
06/16/18 1:22:20 PM
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xyphilia posted...
Isn't the idea of minimum wage that the salary has to be able to be lived on? I remember reading something to that effect once.

lmfao no
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/16/18 1:25:31 PM
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If you go to the same place often and you enjoy the service, you should absolute tip well.

Develop a relationship with the restaurant, the owners and managers if possible. You get preferential treatment and little freebies occasionally.
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MrK3V
06/16/18 1:27:21 PM
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lmao at everyone obsessed with tipping
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QueenCarly
06/16/18 1:32:07 PM
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xyphilia posted...
Isn't the idea of minimum wage that the salary has to be able to be lived on? I remember reading something to that effect once.


The original intention of the minimum wage was this

But it hasn't been that way in several decades thanks to the destruction of the American left and gradual removal of labor protections
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G-Ziss
06/16/18 1:32:55 PM
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Tips are for suckers.
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MrK3V
06/16/18 1:33:17 PM
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1NfamousACE_2
06/16/18 1:34:34 PM
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Never tip

Should get good service anyways because thats their job
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Lunar_Savage
06/16/18 1:42:09 PM
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Tip everytime. 15~20% of the bill is considered standard practice.

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford the meal.

Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).

Lastly, if you establish a reputation of always tipping, you will receive better treatment/service.
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1NfamousACE_2
06/16/18 1:44:01 PM
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Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that
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G-Ziss
06/16/18 2:09:32 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that


He's probably a food server
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Master_Bass
06/16/18 2:13:07 PM
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xyphilia posted...
Isn't the idea of minimum wage that the salary has to be able to be lived on? I remember reading something to that effect once.

It's legal to pay servers less than mimimum wage. Technically that's only if they get good tips that make up for it, but there's some scumbag restaurant owners out there breaking the law.
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A_Good_Boy
06/16/18 2:13:12 PM
#24:


G-Ziss posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that


He's probably a food server

Yup. Only servers or former servers have that level of entitlement to them.
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Lunar_Savage
06/16/18 2:16:02 PM
#25:


A_Good_Boy posted...
G-Ziss posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that


He's probably a food server

Yup. Only servers or former servers have that level of entitlement to them.


And only entitled customers have these attitudes.

But hey, totally treat the person who handles your food like shit. That will work out well for you.
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loafy013
06/16/18 2:16:58 PM
#26:


A_Good_Boy posted...
G-Ziss posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that


He's probably a food server

Yup. Only servers or former servers have that level of entitlement to them.

It's not entitlement. It is being aware of how the world works, and in the service industry, there are often things outside of your control that the asshat public blames you for.
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Lunar_Savage
06/16/18 2:17:49 PM
#27:


loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
G-Ziss posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that


He's probably a food server

Yup. Only servers or former servers have that level of entitlement to them.

It's not entitlement. It is being aware of how the world works, and in the service industry, there are often things outside of your control that the asshat public blames you for.


Hey, someone who gets it!
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Ki_cat_
06/16/18 2:18:52 PM
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Lol no. You won't be treated better unless you tip a lot and generously. People in the U.S expect a tip or they get mad. Most other first world countries pay a livable wage but the hours might be shit.
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A_Good_Boy
06/16/18 2:19:49 PM
#29:


loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
G-Ziss posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that


He's probably a food server

Yup. Only servers or former servers have that level of entitlement to them.

It's not entitlement. It is being aware of how the world works, and in the service industry, there are often things outside of your control that the asshat public blames you for.

Factors out of your control aren't exclusive to being a waiter. Only waiters feel entitled enough to suffer their customer base for it.
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Lunar_Savage
06/16/18 2:21:31 PM
#31:


A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
G-Ziss posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that


He's probably a food server

Yup. Only servers or former servers have that level of entitlement to them.

It's not entitlement. It is being aware of how the world works, and in the service industry, there are often things outside of your control that the asshat public blames you for.

Factors out of your control aren't exclusive to being a waiter. Only waiters feel entitled enough to suffer their customer base for it.


Always true, but only customers feel so entitled that the outside factors out of their control don't apply to them.
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QueenCarly
06/16/18 2:21:48 PM
#32:


A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
G-Ziss posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that


He's probably a food server

Yup. Only servers or former servers have that level of entitlement to them.

It's not entitlement. It is being aware of how the world works, and in the service industry, there are often things outside of your control that the asshat public blames you for.

Factors out of your control aren't exclusive to being a waiter. Only waiters feel entitled enough to suffer their customer base for it.


Customers are garbage
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A_Good_Boy
06/16/18 2:24:20 PM
#33:


Lunar_Savage posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
G-Ziss posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that


He's probably a food server

Yup. Only servers or former servers have that level of entitlement to them.

It's not entitlement. It is being aware of how the world works, and in the service industry, there are often things outside of your control that the asshat public blames you for.

Factors out of your control aren't exclusive to being a waiter. Only waiters feel entitled enough to suffer their customer base for it.


Always true, but only customers feel so entitled that the outside factors out of their control don't apply to them.

Because they don't. They're the customer. It's not the responsibility for the customer to assuage the feelings of the worker; it's the other way around.
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loafy013
06/16/18 2:25:01 PM
#34:


A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
G-Ziss posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that


He's probably a food server

Yup. Only servers or former servers have that level of entitlement to them.

It's not entitlement. It is being aware of how the world works, and in the service industry, there are often things outside of your control that the asshat public blames you for.

Factors out of your control aren't exclusive to being a waiter. Only waiters feel entitled enough to suffer their customer base for it.

So say you work in an office and copier breaks down. Are you OK with getting docked on your review by your boss because you couldn't make a copy of his son's homework for him that day?
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A_Good_Boy
06/16/18 2:25:48 PM
#35:


QueenCarly posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
G-Ziss posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that


He's probably a food server

Yup. Only servers or former servers have that level of entitlement to them.

It's not entitlement. It is being aware of how the world works, and in the service industry, there are often things outside of your control that the asshat public blames you for.

Factors out of your control aren't exclusive to being a waiter. Only waiters feel entitled enough to suffer their customer base for it.


Customers are garbage

I never said shame wasn't a pretty decent motivator to swindle more tips from the customers. Me though? I demand prompt service if I'm going to tip.
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thrashmetal14
06/16/18 2:26:35 PM
#36:


Who the hell wastes money going to restaurants every single day?
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A_Good_Boy
06/16/18 2:27:36 PM
#37:


loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
G-Ziss posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...


Only times it's considered acceptable to not tip is when the server has been rather rude (check your behavior as well and make sure you didn't/don't provoke it) or has done a very poor job (even then, consider how many people they might be having to serve, quite often you are not the only customer and employers will overwork staff).


lol...what the shit is that


He's probably a food server

Yup. Only servers or former servers have that level of entitlement to them.

It's not entitlement. It is being aware of how the world works, and in the service industry, there are often things outside of your control that the asshat public blames you for.

Factors out of your control aren't exclusive to being a waiter. Only waiters feel entitled enough to suffer their customer base for it.

So say you work in an office and copier breaks down. Are you OK with getting docked on your review by your boss because you couldn't make a copy of his son's homework for him that day?

Regardless of the functional state of the copier I'm not going to make a copy of my boss's kid's homework for him. He's the dad and I'm not his slave.
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Lunar_Savage
06/16/18 2:33:40 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...

I never said shame wasn't a pretty decent motivator to swindle more tips from the customers. Me though? I demand prompt service if I'm going to tip.

You sound 1000000% more entitled than any server


This.

He sounds like the guy who would bitch moan and whine for being fifth in line at a first come first serve business and start demanding to be served immediately and tell the other customers to get out of his way.
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A_Good_Boy
06/16/18 2:34:42 PM
#40:


shockthemonkey posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...

I never said shame wasn't a pretty decent motivator to swindle more tips from the customers. Me though? I demand prompt service if I'm going to tip.

You sound 1000000% more entitled than any server

Going to a restaurant and expecting people to perform their jobs is entitlement?
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loafy013
06/16/18 2:35:33 PM
#41:


A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...

So say you work in an office and copier breaks down. Are you OK with getting docked on your review by your boss because you couldn't make a copy of his son's homework for him that day?

Regardless of the functional state of the copier I'm not going to make a copy of my boss's kid's homework for him. He's the dad and I'm not his slave.

And yet when a customer makes a stupid request that isn't the waiters job, they refuse to leave a tip because the server "had a bad attitude".
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A_Good_Boy
06/16/18 2:36:54 PM
#42:


loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...

So say you work in an office and copier breaks down. Are you OK with getting docked on your review by your boss because you couldn't make a copy of his son's homework for him that day?

Regardless of the functional state of the copier I'm not going to make a copy of my boss's kid's homework for him. He's the dad and I'm not his slave.

And yet when a customer makes a stupid request that isn't the waiters job, they refuse to leave a tip because the server "had a bad attitude".

I don't know what you're talking about, you're being vague.
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Lunar_Savage
06/16/18 2:39:37 PM
#43:


Lunar_Savage posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...

I never said shame wasn't a pretty decent motivator to swindle more tips from the customers. Me though? I demand prompt service if I'm going to tip.

You sound 1000000% more entitled than any server


This.

He sounds like the guy who would bitch moan and whine for being fifth in line at a first come first serve business and start demanding to be served immediately and tell the other customers to get out of his way.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/16/18 2:40:04 PM
#44:


Tipping culture is not only a waste of money but only supports shitty restaurant industry policies.

If your not being paid a living wage either get a better job or go on strike/form a union and demand fair livable pay.

Tipping someone to do a better job or cater to you more is literally bribing them and that kinda bullshit is not a good thing.
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loafy013
06/16/18 2:40:38 PM
#46:


A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...

So say you work in an office and copier breaks down. Are you OK with getting docked on your review by your boss because you couldn't make a copy of his son's homework for him that day?

Regardless of the functional state of the copier I'm not going to make a copy of my boss's kid's homework for him. He's the dad and I'm not his slave.

And yet when a customer makes a stupid request that isn't the waiters job, they refuse to leave a tip because the server "had a bad attitude".

I don't know what you're talking about, you're being vague.

So in my example, you said you would refuse to make a copy for your boss because that isn't your job.

But you seem to support the idea that a server doesn't deserve a tip if they don't make the customer happy. And oftentimes what makes a customer unhappy is an insane request that isn't the job of the server, like "Hey, my phones dead. Give me your charger."
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A_Good_Boy
06/16/18 2:41:18 PM
#47:


Imagine quoting yourself 3 fucking times. Looks like we've got ourselves a classic CE melty.
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A_Good_Boy
06/16/18 2:42:32 PM
#48:


loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...

So say you work in an office and copier breaks down. Are you OK with getting docked on your review by your boss because you couldn't make a copy of his son's homework for him that day?

Regardless of the functional state of the copier I'm not going to make a copy of my boss's kid's homework for him. He's the dad and I'm not his slave.

And yet when a customer makes a stupid request that isn't the waiters job, they refuse to leave a tip because the server "had a bad attitude".

I don't know what you're talking about, you're being vague.

So in my example, you said you would refuse to make a copy for your boss because that isn't your job.

But you seem to support the idea that a server doesn't deserve a tip if they don't make the customer happy. And oftentimes what makes a customer unhappy is an insane request that isn't the job of the server, like "Hey, my phones dead. Give me your charger."

I never said that. Keep the strawmen to yourself, please.
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Lunar_Savage
06/16/18 2:44:14 PM
#50:


A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
loafy013 posted...

So say you work in an office and copier breaks down. Are you OK with getting docked on your review by your boss because you couldn't make a copy of his son's homework for him that day?

Regardless of the functional state of the copier I'm not going to make a copy of my boss's kid's homework for him. He's the dad and I'm not his slave.

And yet when a customer makes a stupid request that isn't the waiters job, they refuse to leave a tip because the server "had a bad attitude".

I don't know what you're talking about, you're being vague.

So in my example, you said you would refuse to make a copy for your boss because that isn't your job.

But you seem to support the idea that a server doesn't deserve a tip if they don't make the customer happy. And oftentimes what makes a customer unhappy is an insane request that isn't the job of the server, like "Hey, my phones dead. Give me your charger."

I never said that. Keep the strawmen to yourself, please.


You make assumptions about us, we make assumptions about you.
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G-Ziss
06/16/18 2:52:29 PM
#51:


loafy013 posted...
So say you work in an office and copier breaks down. Are you OK with getting docked on your review by your boss because you couldn't make a copy of his son's homework for him that day?


If making copies for your boss is part of your job description, then you should be making your best effort to make copies for your boss.

If the office xerox machine breaks down, there are other ways to get the task done. Use a scanner app on your phone to scan it then print it out. Go to another office in the building and ask if you can use their xerox machine. Swing by a Kinko's or a local library on your lunch break to make a copy. People should go above and beyond if they expect to receive an exceptional performance review. Anyone who uses a petty excuse to get out of doing a simple job like making a copy deserves to be docked on their review.
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