Current Events > Chris Hardwick accused of years of sexual and emotional abuse

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Howl
06/16/18 1:22:29 PM
#51:


yusiko posted...
I would let him sexually abuse me

if he turns out to be genuinely guilty let's all pretend I never said that as its in poor taste


You know how many women literally chastised Rhianna saying they would gladly let Chris Brown abuse them?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/16/18 1:33:42 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
SuperShake666 posted...
I'm getting really tired of guilty until proven innocent becoming the new MO. How about some concrete proof/charges before people get wiped from history? I think Hardwick is one of the most unfunny people today, but goddamn.

Yep. People need to stop being believed when they make baseless claims about anything.


Exactly. I see baseless claims a lot, like "Nazis were left wing" but I know better than to believe them.
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_Squirtle_
06/16/18 1:33:52 PM
#53:


God the guilty until proven innocent crowd is absolutely disgusting.

And weird how they're the same people that get ass devasted when people blindly believe cops at their word when they arrest or kill a minority.
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Howl
06/16/18 1:39:04 PM
#54:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
SuperShake666 posted...
I'm getting really tired of guilty until proven innocent becoming the new MO. How about some concrete proof/charges before people get wiped from history? I think Hardwick is one of the most unfunny people today, but goddamn.

Yep. People need to stop being believed when they make baseless claims about anything.


Exactly. I see baseless claims a lot, like "Nazis were left wing" but I know better than to believe them.


There was literally 1 user here saying that.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/16/18 1:55:46 PM
#55:


Howl posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
SuperShake666 posted...
I'm getting really tired of guilty until proven innocent becoming the new MO. How about some concrete proof/charges before people get wiped from history? I think Hardwick is one of the most unfunny people today, but goddamn.

Yep. People need to stop being believed when they make baseless claims about anything.


Exactly. I see baseless claims a lot, like "Nazis were left wing" but I know better than to believe them.


There was literally 1 user here saying that.


Yes, and he's the one I was speaking to in that post >_>
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Scorsese2002
06/16/18 7:57:20 PM
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masticatingman
06/16/18 8:03:26 PM
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Read the story on Yahoo and yeah, she shouldve just left if she didnt want to fuck with the guy. Sounds like she built her own psychological cage and was miserable but I dont see how you can rationally say he was abusive if there wasnt actual physicality or restraint used on her. Not saying I dont feel bad for her but I dont see why she couldnt just leave.
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ThanksUglyGod
06/16/18 8:09:31 PM
#58:


masticatingman posted...
Read the story on Yahoo and yeah, she shouldve just left if she didnt want to fuck with the guy. Sounds like she built her own psychological cage and was miserable but I dont see how you can rationally say he was abusive if there wasnt actual physicality or restraint used on her. Not saying I dont feel bad for her but I dont see why she couldnt just leave.

He wouldn't let her. He threatened to ruin her career if she left him. And when she did, he made good on those threats and companies blacklisted her.
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Shut_TheF---_Up
06/16/18 8:12:11 PM
#59:


Frolex posted...
@PIITB415 posted...
This. I'm tired of women now being able to destroy a man's life without hard proof. It's ridiculous. "boo hoo, I felt like this and suddenly I'm not an adult who can amke decisions". Give me a break.


https://imgur.com/LtTYqvj


rofl
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CasualGuy
06/16/18 11:22:48 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
masticatingman posted...
Read the story on Yahoo and yeah, she shouldve just left if she didnt want to fuck with the guy. Sounds like she built her own psychological cage and was miserable but I dont see how you can rationally say he was abusive if there wasnt actual physicality or restraint used on her. Not saying I dont feel bad for her but I dont see why she couldnt just leave.

He wouldn't let her. He threatened to ruin her career if she left him. And when she did, he made good on those threats and companies blacklisted her.


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voldothegr8
06/16/18 11:29:30 PM
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SuperShake666 posted...
I'm getting really tired of guilty until proven innocent becoming the new MO. How about some concrete proof/charges before people get wiped from history? I think Hardwick is one of the most unfunny people today, but goddamn.

Agreed, such bullshit
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soulunison2
06/16/18 11:29:52 PM
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I seriously hope none of you have daughters
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Howl
06/16/18 11:33:20 PM
#64:


soulunison2 posted...
I seriously hope none of you have daughters


My daughter would never make blanket accusations that cant be proven about a personal relationship she had years after it was over in an attempt to ruin a man's life.
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/17/18 1:12:47 AM
#65:


SuperShake666 posted...
I'm getting really tired of guilty until proven innocent becoming the new MO. How about some concrete proof/charges before people get wiped from history? I think Hardwick is one of the most unfunny people today, but goddamn.

Yup. Its pretty awful here, you ask for one bit of a source or say whats the details and you get your fuckin head ripped off. Its a weird thing I notice a lot here.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
06/17/18 1:30:40 AM
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realnifty1 posted...
OctilIery posted...
Balrog0 posted...
OctilIery posted...
No she didn't to the first part


she admits that she did in her essay, though, 'out of fear of losing him'

That isn't consenting. That's being manipulated.


You are 100% incorrect, at least in the abstract as I didn't read up on everything, but `fear of losing` does not qualify as manipulation. All adults are presumed to be fully accountable and able to pursue their own desires. Any person at any time is allowed to put conditions on continued interactions with another person, it is only when those conditions come with a caveat of harm for failure to comply that it is manipulative.

Good:
I can't stay in this relationship if we don't X.

Bad:
If we don't X then I'm going to tell your family about that time you Y'd.

This is worded so perfectly that I got nothing to add to this topic
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Trigg3rH4ppy
06/17/18 1:33:24 AM
#67:


Shut_TheF---_Up posted...
Frolex posted...
@PIITB415 posted...
This. I'm tired of women now being able to destroy a man's life without hard proof. It's ridiculous. "boo hoo, I felt like this and suddenly I'm not an adult who can amke decisions". Give me a break.


https://imgur.com/LtTYqvj


rofl

Also, holy shit LMFAO
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cjsdowg
06/17/18 8:23:52 AM
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Why is Hardwick being wrap up in the MeToo movement . While some of things he did was asshole bf. Unless I missed it. (I might have honestly missed something) I don't see what he did that was illegal.
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06/17/18 8:25:14 AM
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Virus731
06/17/18 8:37:32 AM
#70:


LMFAO

It's not her fault but don't act like she was powerless.
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Perfectinsanity
06/17/18 8:39:06 AM
#71:


So what is she doing about this? Just posting online to sully his name? Is she pressing charges?
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SpinKirby
06/17/18 8:53:42 AM
#72:


Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Shut_TheF---_Up posted...
Frolex posted...
PIITB415 posted...
This. I'm tired of women now being able to destroy a man's life without hard proof. It's ridiculous. "boo hoo, I felt like this and suddenly I'm not an adult who can amke decisions". Give me a break.


https://imgur.com/LtTYqvj


rofl

Also, holy shit LMFAO


Are users allowed to be crushed like this?
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hollow_shrine
06/17/18 9:08:56 AM
#73:


SpinKirby posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Shut_TheF---_Up posted...
Frolex posted...
PIITB415 posted...
This. I'm tired of women now being able to destroy a man's life without hard proof. It's ridiculous. "boo hoo, I felt like this and suddenly I'm not an adult who can amke decisions". Give me a break.


https://imgur.com/LtTYqvj


rofl

Also, holy shit LMFAO


Are users allowed to be crushed like this?

Think of that less of as a Gamefaqs TOS issue, and more of a law of the universe, like karma.

Karma is always allowed.
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B0bSaget
06/17/18 9:20:11 AM
#74:


Is she seriously trying to say that him implying he wants regular sex or a relationship is a no-go to be sexual assault? Dont get me wrong, its a total asshole move if what she is saying is true, but she had the option of walking out of that room. He can dictate the rules for his relationships, and so long as violence or actual threats are not used to keep her in line with the those rules, there is no problem. I havent read the whole thing, so thats all Im really commenting on.
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Howl
06/17/18 12:08:56 PM
#75:


B0bSaget posted...
Is she seriously trying to say that him implying he wants regular sex or a relationship is a no-go to be sexual assault? Dont get me wrong, its a total asshole move if what she is saying is true, but she had the option of walking out of that room. He can dictate the rules for his relationships, and so long as violence or actual threats are not used to keep her in line with the those rules, there is no problem. I havent read the whole thing, so thats all Im really commenting on.


I read it all. She doesn't imply that that was sexual assault, she says it directly.
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B0bSaget
06/17/18 12:26:17 PM
#76:


Howl posted...
B0bSaget posted...
Is she seriously trying to say that him implying he wants regular sex or a relationship is a no-go to be sexual assault? Dont get me wrong, its a total asshole move if what she is saying is true, but she had the option of walking out of that room. He can dictate the rules for his relationships, and so long as violence or actual threats are not used to keep her in line with the those rules, there is no problem. I havent read the whole thing, so thats all Im really commenting on.


I read it all. She doesn't imply that that was sexual assault, she says it directly.

I think you misread what I said. He was allegedly implying that lack of sex was a deal breaker for him. She is claiming that is sexual assault. If those are all the details, then it is not sexual assault. It is him being a controlling asshole if that is true, but that is all it is. She has the choice to either walk out on him then, or deny him and see if he follows through on his implication of breaking up. If she feels like she cannot, thats all on her. Now, if there is an instance where he said something like, if you dont have sex with me right now, I will make your life living hell, that would be a whole other story.
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Howl
06/17/18 12:40:30 PM
#77:


B0bSaget posted...
Howl posted...
B0bSaget posted...
Is she seriously trying to say that him implying he wants regular sex or a relationship is a no-go to be sexual assault? Dont get me wrong, its a total asshole move if what she is saying is true, but she had the option of walking out of that room. He can dictate the rules for his relationships, and so long as violence or actual threats are not used to keep her in line with the those rules, there is no problem. I havent read the whole thing, so thats all Im really commenting on.


I read it all. She doesn't imply that that was sexual assault, she says it directly.

I think you misread what I said. He was allegedly implying that lack of sex was a deal breaker for him. She is claiming that is sexual assault. If those are all the details, then it is not sexual assault. It is him being a controlling asshole if that is true, but that is all it is. She has the choice to either walk out on him then, or deny him and see if he follows through on his implication of breaking up. If she feels like she cannot, thats all on her. Now, if there is an instance where he said something like, if you dont have sex with me right now, I will make your life living hell, that would be a whole other story.


That's not all the details. She said he told her she had to be ready to fuck him every night. She also said she told him once that she didn't feel well and asked if they could not have sex that night and he said directly that lack of sex was the reason his last relationship ended. Also she said that she would cry when she begrudgingly had sex with him and he thought that was funny and called it starfishing.
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B0bSaget
06/17/18 12:49:50 PM
#78:


Howl posted...
B0bSaget posted...
Howl posted...
B0bSaget posted...
Is she seriously trying to say that him implying he wants regular sex or a relationship is a no-go to be sexual assault? Dont get me wrong, its a total asshole move if what she is saying is true, but she had the option of walking out of that room. He can dictate the rules for his relationships, and so long as violence or actual threats are not used to keep her in line with the those rules, there is no problem. I havent read the whole thing, so thats all Im really commenting on.


I read it all. She doesn't imply that that was sexual assault, she says it directly.

I think you misread what I said. He was allegedly implying that lack of sex was a deal breaker for him. She is claiming that is sexual assault. If those are all the details, then it is not sexual assault. It is him being a controlling asshole if that is true, but that is all it is. She has the choice to either walk out on him then, or deny him and see if he follows through on his implication of breaking up. If she feels like she cannot, thats all on her. Now, if there is an instance where he said something like, if you dont have sex with me right now, I will make your life living hell, that would be a whole other story.


That's not all the details. She said he told her she had to be ready to fuck him every night. She also said she told him once that she didn't feel well and asked if they could not have sex that night and he said directly that lack of sex was the reason his last relationship ended. Also she said that she would cry when she begrudgingly had sex with him and he thought that was funny and called it starfishing.

And? Was there violence? Were there threats of violence or threats to make her life worse or harm her family? If this is all true and that is the full scope of the issue, he is a gigantic asshole and she is a weak willed crybaby. She did not need to be in a relationship with him, and she could have left at any point, assuming there were no threats of violence or making her life a living hell. I have no sympathy for people who stay in a horrible relationship out of supposed love for the other person. Being an asshole is not illegal.
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Smashingpmkns
06/17/18 12:51:34 PM
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Having sex with someone while they're crying the entire time is pretty suspect tbh. And what he did was mentally abusive.
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Panthera
06/17/18 1:00:05 PM
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B0bSaget posted...

And? Was there violence? Were there threats of violence or threats to make her life worse or harm her family? If this is all true and that is the full scope of the issue, he is a gigantic asshole and she is a weak willed crybaby. She did not need to be in a relationship with him, and she could have left at any point, assuming there were no threats of violence or making her life a living hell. I have no sympathy for people who stay in a horrible relationship out of supposed love for the other person. Being an asshole is not illegal.


If your demands on someone are bad enough that they cry when they have sex with you and you laugh about it, you're clearly sexually abusing that person. Even if you aren't technically forcing them into it (and given what she says about how he reacted when she left, it's not unreasonable to think he had threatened her about not breaking up with him) you're making them suffer, you know it, and you're doing it anyway while trying your best to make them feel even worse.
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B0bSaget
06/17/18 1:09:14 PM
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Panthera posted...
B0bSaget posted...

And? Was there violence? Were there threats of violence or threats to make her life worse or harm her family? If this is all true and that is the full scope of the issue, he is a gigantic asshole and she is a weak willed crybaby. She did not need to be in a relationship with him, and she could have left at any point, assuming there were no threats of violence or making her life a living hell. I have no sympathy for people who stay in a horrible relationship out of supposed love for the other person. Being an asshole is not illegal.


If your demands on someone are bad enough that they cry when they have sex with you and you laugh about it, you're clearly sexually abusing that person. Even if you aren't technically forcing them into it (and given what she says about how he reacted when she left, it's not unreasonable to think he had threatened her about not breaking up with him) you're making them suffer, you know it, and you're doing it anyway while trying your best to make them feel even worse.

It depends on the circumstances. If she at any point during any sexual encounter said no or stop and he didnt, then it is just pure rape. If she agreed to it and at no point voiced discontent aside from the crying, then Im fully in the camp that she made her own mental prison. Im in no way justifying his actions, but after having seen two family friends willingly toss themselves back into abusive relationships time and time again, I have zero sympathy for people who willingly submit to shit like this. If there are no actual threats beyond the relationship being ended, it is her own damn fault.
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Howl
06/17/18 1:15:42 PM
#82:


Panthera posted...
B0bSaget posted...

And? Was there violence? Were there threats of violence or threats to make her life worse or harm her family? If this is all true and that is the full scope of the issue, he is a gigantic asshole and she is a weak willed crybaby. She did not need to be in a relationship with him, and she could have left at any point, assuming there were no threats of violence or making her life a living hell. I have no sympathy for people who stay in a horrible relationship out of supposed love for the other person. Being an asshole is not illegal.


If your demands on someone are bad enough that they cry when they have sex with you and you laugh about it, you're clearly sexually abusing that person. Even if you aren't technically forcing them into it (and given what she says about how he reacted when she left, it's not unreasonable to think he had threatened her about not breaking up with him) you're making them suffer, you know it, and you're doing it anyway while trying your best to make them feel even worse.


I do agree that it was at a level of sexual abuse if that's true. However, given her motivations for doing this, I simply do not believe that part of the story. It sounds like she didn't really have a smoking gun example of how he sexually abused her, and so she added that part in to make it seem much worse than it was.

Think about it like this, she waited 3 entire years after the relationship ended purposefully to attempt to ruin his life when it was at its highest after he got married etc. Only to publicly publish this about him. If she honestly felt she were sexually abused, when her "best friend" was actively attempting to ruin her life as she claims she would have said something then.

She then at one part makes the claim that she just had to be open about this now to everyone. I don't buy that either. My wife was sexually abused by her uncle when she was a kid and she doesn't wear victimization on her sleeve like that. You can make the argument that everyone is different and cope in different ways, but given her motivations by posting this now, I just think its bs.

He may have made controlling demands of her like sexual priority etc. But I believe she was fully ok with it at the time and now that she has a chance to ruin him out of the beneficial sympathy for this subject at the current time, she took full advantage out of sheer spite.
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mcpwnia
06/17/18 1:33:39 PM
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Fony
06/17/18 1:35:05 PM
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I've told every single woman down to the tee the i have dated or slept with in a FWB situation that regular sex is expected and I really did ghost them if they refused. That is not sexual abuse or any other kind of abuse. No women on this planet is entitled to my time, my love, my money, my dick or my attention. Without regular sex, as in every day there is nothing going on between me and any woman at all. And I'm perfectly fine if they don't want to do it, but I gotta find someone else.

She wanted to keep him while not agreeing to the terms they both agreed on from the start, nothing right about that. My current girlfriend was actually roofied and sexual assaulted once, these bitches are crazy and fucked up.
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Scorsese2002
06/17/18 1:36:08 PM
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Oh_Boy_
06/17/18 1:40:46 PM
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LMAO, you can legally sue your girlfriend or wife for refusing to sleep with you, yet some people actually consider expecting sex from a woman to be sexual assault(a crime).
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voldothegr8
06/17/18 1:40:47 PM
#87:


Scorsese2002 posted...
Now Talking Dead has been pulled......http://www.slashfilm.com/chris-hardwick-allegations/

Funny how that article leaves this out.

We have had a positive working relationship with Chris Hardwick for many years," said the network in a statement on Saturday. "We take the troubling allegations that surfaced yesterday very seriously. While we assess the situation, Talking with Chris Hardwick will not air on AMC, and Chris has decided to step aside from moderating planned AMC and BBC America panels at Comic-Con International in San Diego next month.

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Howl
06/17/18 1:56:23 PM
#88:


voldothegr8 posted...
Scorsese2002 posted...
Now Talking Dead has been pulled...... http://www.slashfilm.com/chris-hardwick-allegations/

Funny how that article leaves this out.

We have had a positive working relationship with Chris Hardwick for many years," said the network in a statement on Saturday. "We take the troubling allegations that surfaced yesterday very seriously. While we assess the situation, Talking with Chris Hardwick will not air on AMC, and Chris has decided to step aside from moderating planned AMC and BBC America panels at Comic-Con International in San Diego next month.


Chris has decided to step aside from moderating Comic-Con. Lol yeah I'm sure that was 100% his decision and the network had no say in it.
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cjsdowg
06/17/18 2:04:12 PM
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So remember guys if you are bad bf you will be placed put in the same sport as racist.
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TommyG663513
06/17/18 2:20:39 PM
#90:


cjsdowg posted...
So remember guys if you are bad bf you will be placed put in the same sport as racist.

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Jagr_68
06/17/18 2:31:31 PM
#91:


Kinda amazing this clown's career is going down like the Titanic since he doesn't have any real talent besides hosting shit and being smug.
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Kavatar
06/17/18 2:40:51 PM
#92:


cjsdowg posted...
So remember guys if you are bad bf you will be placed put in the same sport as racist.

It may not have been illegal but what he did was way beyond simply saying he was a "bad boyfriend".
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cjsdowg
06/17/18 2:52:22 PM
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Besides the laughing part ( which as others have side doesn't sound to believably) yes that is all this was .

For example saying that he would end the relationship if he doesn't get sex. That is harsh but that is his right. If he wants a relationship with a lots of sex he should be able to go out and find that.

People are treating him like he was mind controlling her or some shit. She stayed in a relationship she claimed was horrible . When he had all these rules that he wanted her to follow. She could have left at anytime. She was got damn adult .
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Smashingpmkns
06/17/18 2:55:15 PM
#94:


Some people ITT are the prime example of why mental abuse in relationships go unnoticed until it's too late.
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Howl
06/17/18 3:36:35 PM
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mcpwnia posted...
These are real thoughts by real people


As if my thoughts are unrealistic. You assume she has no motivation beyond moving past what she considered an emotionally abusive relationship, when reality dictates that people have a variety of motivations behind what they do and those motivations are often vindictive or born of jealousy.
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Jagr_68
06/17/18 4:09:21 PM
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Taking down Chris Hardwick for the trash that he is a pretty friggin valid motivation given her accusations. It would be a downright laughable lie if she just admitted these things "just to make peace with herself" or whatever.
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Veggeta_MAX
06/18/18 9:50:45 AM
#97:


Howl posted...
mcpwnia posted...
These are real thoughts by real people


As if my thoughts are unrealistic. You assume she has no motivation beyond moving past what she considered an emotionally abusive relationship, when reality dictates that people have a variety of motivations behind what they do and those motivations are often vindictive or born of jealousy.

Bro you can just simply say you don't believe her.
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marc55
06/18/18 10:22:13 AM
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did she show any proof or did other women spoke up about it because if what she said was true she cant be the only one
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gmanthebest
06/18/18 6:03:47 PM
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Did she post proof yet?
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Fony
06/18/18 6:19:41 PM
#100:


gmanthebest posted...
Did she post proof yet?


Lol, don't hold your breath.
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