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UnfairRepresent
06/14/18 5:38:25 PM
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Police said Wednesday they have arrested four people in Kyoto and Kobe for allegedly allowing customers at their bars to play video games without the permission of the game makers in what they believe is the first such arrest in Japan.

Kyoto video game bar manager Ryo Koishima, 32, was arrested Tuesday, and Yuki Nishio, 32, who managed a separate bar in the city and his brother Haruto, 29, were arrested Wednesday on suspicion of copyright violations.

The three are suspected of renting video game software and allowing customers to play them in April without obtaining the permission of game makers Nintendo Co and Capcom Co, Kyoto police said.

The police confiscated a total of 30 game consoles and 1,100 game titles from the two bars. The bar run by the Nishio brothers is believed to have had monthly sales of 1.5 million yen, they said.

Separately Wednesday, Kobe police arrested Hironori Kin, 31, the president of a video game bar operator in Kobe, suspecting his bars installed game hardware for home use and allowed customers to play popular games such as Capcom's Monster Hunter: World and Nintendo's Splatoon 2, in April.

The arrests were made after the Association of Copyright for Computer Software issued warnings to video game bars nationwide earlier this year, and Nintendo and other game makers lodged criminal complaints against such bars.


Full Article: https://japantoday.com/category/crime/video-game-bar-managers-arrested-for-alleged-copyright-violations

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Man imagine being in a police station and then the lads burst in with 30 consoles and 1,100 games that they "confiscated" who then say they need the rest of the day to "go through the evidence."
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Doe
06/14/18 5:42:18 PM
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Mr_Biscuit
06/14/18 5:43:32 PM
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JE19426
06/14/18 5:47:50 PM
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What a misleading topic title.The title claims Nintendo and Capcom made the arrests, but the article say the police made the arrests.
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/14/18 5:53:33 PM
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Doe posted...
PORN5iz

How is this relevant?

You seem to be defensive
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Howl
06/14/18 6:00:39 PM
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Wonder if this would ever happen in the US. Barcades are becoming pretty popular now a days here.
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NeonOctopus
06/14/18 6:05:10 PM
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Doe
06/14/18 6:06:20 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
How is this relevant?

You seem to be defensive

"ERROR! User attempting to steal online gameplay"
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Spidey5
06/14/18 6:22:19 PM
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Darmik
06/14/18 6:30:26 PM
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Howl posted...
Wonder if this would ever happen in the US. Barcades are becoming pretty popular now a days here.


Movies often have warning for this right? I don't think I've seen them for a video game but I guess they're somewhere.

I would have thought you'd just get hit with a fine or warning from some lawyers though. Not an actual arrest.

JE19426 posted...
What a misleading topic title.The title claims Nintendo and Capcom made the arrests, but the article say the police made the arrests.


Is this what the Detective Pikachu movie is about?
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Doe
06/14/18 6:33:13 PM
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Darmik posted...
Is this what the Detective Pikachu movie is about?

Someone's been a stealin our games, gay Pikachu?
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UnfairRepresent
06/15/18 2:31:45 AM
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Doe posted...
Darmik posted...
Is this what the Detective Pikachu movie is about?

Someone's been a stealin our games, gay Pikachu?

Why is he gay?
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SpinKirby
06/15/18 2:36:11 AM
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Reading up on it a little.

They were charging people to play a game they didn't get a commercial license for.
I've been to a few cool bars where you don't have to pay to play, unless they have cover on the entire bar.

For the most part, it's always illegal, but if you don't charge for it, nobody cares.
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UnfairRepresent
06/15/18 9:25:54 AM
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SpinKirby posted...

For the most part, it's always illegal, but if you don't charge for it, nobody cares.

Oh Nintendo care, trust me
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Buzz Killjoy
06/15/18 9:32:58 AM
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With movies, you have to obtain a commercial license even if you don't charge anything to watch it. For example, libraries that offer movie nights as free programming have to get licenses for the specific films they show.

Fortunately the film industry makes this easy with websites you can purchase a commercial license from with little hassle.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
06/15/18 9:34:47 AM
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Were these pirated games?
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SavenForever
06/15/18 9:55:13 AM
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Howl posted...
Wonder if this would ever happen in the US. Barcades are becoming pretty popular now a days here.


Wouldn't be an arrestable offense, but probably a sueable one.
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ForestLogic
06/15/18 10:05:22 AM
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SpinKirby posted...
Reading up on it a little.

They were charging people to play a game they didn't get a commercial license for.
I've been to a few cool bars where you don't have to pay to play, unless they have cover on the entire bar.

For the most part, it's always illegal, but if you don't charge for it, nobody cares.


I was 100% ready to shit all over Nintendo until I read about this part.

You can't profit off of other people's work. Simple as that.

Fairest next.
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MacDaMurderer
06/16/18 9:05:18 AM
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Yea barcades around my way may charge a cover to get in like $5 or some shit. And to play on consoles you gotta open a tab (dont have to buy a drink just have a card on file). All the games are free at the cabinets.
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DarkChozoGhost
06/16/18 9:11:35 AM
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UnfairRepresent
06/17/18 1:34:15 PM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
Yea barcades around my way may charge a cover to get in like $5 or some shit. And to play on consoles you gotta open a tab (dont have to buy a drink just have a card on file). All the games are free at the cabinets.

hmm
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EpicMickeyDrew
06/17/18 1:56:10 PM
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@ForestLogic posted...
SpinKirby posted...
Reading up on it a little.

They were charging people to play a game they didn't get a commercial license for.
I've been to a few cool bars where you don't have to pay to play, unless they have cover on the entire bar.

For the most part, it's always illegal, but if you don't charge for it, nobody cares.


I was 100% ready to shit all over Nintendo until I read about this part.

You can't profit off of other people's work. Simple as that.

Fairest next.

They are providing a service, by that logic libraries shouldn't profit off of the authors work.
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Esrac
06/17/18 2:15:16 PM
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...
@ForestLogic posted...
SpinKirby posted...
Reading up on it a little.

They were charging people to play a game they didn't get a commercial license for.
I've been to a few cool bars where you don't have to pay to play, unless they have cover on the entire bar.

For the most part, it's always illegal, but if you don't charge for it, nobody cares.


I was 100% ready to shit all over Nintendo until I read about this part.

You can't profit off of other people's work. Simple as that.

Fairest next.

They are providing a service, by that logic libraries shouldn't profit off of the authors work.


Libraries generally don't charge you to borrow books.
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EpicMickeyDrew
06/17/18 2:55:13 PM
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Esrac posted...
EpicMickeyDrew posted...
@ForestLogic posted...
SpinKirby posted...
Reading up on it a little.

They were charging people to play a game they didn't get a commercial license for.
I've been to a few cool bars where you don't have to pay to play, unless they have cover on the entire bar.

For the most part, it's always illegal, but if you don't charge for it, nobody cares.


I was 100% ready to shit all over Nintendo until I read about this part.

You can't profit off of other people's work. Simple as that.

Fairest next.

They are providing a service, by that logic libraries shouldn't profit off of the authors work.


Libraries generally don't charge you to borrow books.

Sure but they charge you for late returns, they make a profit off of other peoples work.
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ForestLogic
06/17/18 4:21:29 PM
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...
@ForestLogic posted...
SpinKirby posted...
Reading up on it a little.

They were charging people to play a game they didn't get a commercial license for.
I've been to a few cool bars where you don't have to pay to play, unless they have cover on the entire bar.

For the most part, it's always illegal, but if you don't charge for it, nobody cares.


I was 100% ready to shit all over Nintendo until I read about this part.

You can't profit off of other people's work. Simple as that.

Fairest next.

They are providing a service, by that logic libraries shouldn't profit off of the authors work.


Are you fucking high? Libraries are non-profit, public institutions. They literally don't make profits period.
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EpicMickeyDrew
06/17/18 4:49:34 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
EpicMickeyDrew posted...
@ForestLogic posted...
SpinKirby posted...
Reading up on it a little.

They were charging people to play a game they didn't get a commercial license for.
I've been to a few cool bars where you don't have to pay to play, unless they have cover on the entire bar.

For the most part, it's always illegal, but if you don't charge for it, nobody cares.


I was 100% ready to shit all over Nintendo until I read about this part.

You can't profit off of other people's work. Simple as that.

Fairest next.

They are providing a service, by that logic libraries shouldn't profit off of the authors work.


Are you fucking high? Libraries are non-profit, public institutions. They literally don't make profits period.

Public libraries are non-profit. Private libraries are not non profit.
https://theboar.org/2018/02/warwick-library-earned-237000-fines/
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ProfessorKukui
06/17/18 5:14:21 PM
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JE19426 posted...
What a misleading topic title.The title claims Nintendo and Capcom made the arrests, but the article say the police made the arrests.

It wouldn't be an UnfairRepresent shitpost is it didn't intentionally mislead.
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ForestLogic
06/17/18 7:16:43 PM
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...
ForestLogic posted...
EpicMickeyDrew posted...
@ForestLogic posted...
SpinKirby posted...
Reading up on it a little.

They were charging people to play a game they didn't get a commercial license for.
I've been to a few cool bars where you don't have to pay to play, unless they have cover on the entire bar.

For the most part, it's always illegal, but if you don't charge for it, nobody cares.


I was 100% ready to shit all over Nintendo until I read about this part.

You can't profit off of other people's work. Simple as that.

Fairest next.

They are providing a service, by that logic libraries shouldn't profit off of the authors work.


Are you fucking high? Libraries are non-profit, public institutions. They literally don't make profits period.

Public libraries are non-profit. Private libraries are not non profit.
https://theboar.org/2018/02/warwick-library-earned-237000-fines/


Dude get the fuck out of here, anybody that says "library" is basically implying a public library. If you were talking about private libraries (which many don't even lend books to the public) you would've said private library.
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EpicMickeyDrew
06/17/18 9:38:25 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
Dude get the f*** out of here, anybody that says "library" is basically implying a public library. If you were talking about private libraries (which many don't even lend books to the public) you would've said private library.

I'm more familiar with private libraries so that's what I was referring to. You chose to interpret it as public because that's what you are more familiar with. Why are you taking so much offense from this. Regardless the bar was providing a service, many services are use someone else's work to make a profit. Nothing wrong with that.
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1337toothbrush
06/17/18 9:40:37 PM
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IP law in Japan is fucking stupid, in some cases (like this one) way worse than the USA.
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Darmik
06/17/18 9:42:51 PM
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...
Regardless the bar was providing a service, many services are use someone else's work to make a profit. Nothing wrong with that.


And you often need permission in order to profit off someone's work.

If a bar is showing off a pay per view game for instance they can't just pay a standard fee. They also can't just show whatever movie they want.

There's a reason you don't see normal video game consoles in an arcade.
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Scotty_Rogers
06/17/18 9:47:52 PM
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So was this clickbait or
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EpicMickeyDrew
06/17/18 9:54:02 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
I was 100% ready to s*** all over Nintendo until I read about this part.

You can't profit off of other people's work. Simple as that.

Fairest next.

So you're ok with them offering the service as long as they don't charge for it? Despite it being illegal either way. What difference does it make.
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UnfairRepresent
06/18/18 2:15:52 AM
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...
ForestLogic posted...
I was 100% ready to s*** all over Nintendo until I read about this part.

You can't profit off of other people's work. Simple as that.

Fairest next.

So you're ok with them offering the service as long as they don't charge for it? Despite it being illegal either way. What difference does it make.

Ethics?
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