Current Events > JK Rowling had hero bias when creating the four Hogwarts houses.

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3khc
06/08/18 7:19:58 PM
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Should have been (more or less):

Gryffindor = Athletic
Slytherin = Business
Ravenclaw = Scholar
Hufflepuff = Art
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Antifar
06/08/18 7:21:15 PM
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Well, yeah, a lot of the HP universe is crafted specifically to add to Harry's importance
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BLAKUboy
06/08/18 7:21:37 PM
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https://imgur.com/gallery/I2mrdVC
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DK9292
06/08/18 7:23:15 PM
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"What are you talking about, I'm not biased! All four houses are equal; Gryffindor, Slytherin, Raisinpaw and Jigglypuff!"
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Kisai
06/08/18 7:23:33 PM
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What it really is:

Ravenclaw: best house, since only the most genius people get in
Gryffindor: popular kids, athletes, ordinary people
Slytherin: all the future criminals go in this house. Most likely drug dealers, armed robbery, shoplifting, etc.
Hufflepuff: worst house. Future re-tail workers. Wal-Mart, McDonald's, janitorial jobs. Not talented, not successful.
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averagejoel
06/08/18 7:29:59 PM
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harry is the main character in the story. of course most of the characters in it are going to be those in his immediate vicinity i.e. the people he lives with
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HylianFox
06/08/18 7:45:38 PM
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The only thing that bothers me about Hogwarts is that Gryffindor and Slytherin are blatantly written as being the "good" and "evil" houses.

The other two may as well not even exist.
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iPhone_7
06/08/18 7:53:13 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
https://imgur.com/gallery/I2mrdVC

lol
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AvantgardeAClue
06/08/18 7:53:46 PM
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The House Cup shit in the first few books was so annoying too

McGonagall: Slytherin always wins the house cup fuck

Also McGonagall: 50 points each! Yes Potter, from my own house!
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ClockworkHare
06/08/18 7:55:12 PM
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Some writers create the world after the protagonist instead of vice versa.
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averagejoel
06/08/18 7:57:07 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
The House Cup shit in the first few books was so annoying too

McGonagall: Slytherin always wins the house cup fuck

Also McGonagall: 50 points each! Yes Potter, from my own house!

it's explicitly stated that Snape never takes points away from Slytherin

McGonagall is also introduced in one of the later books as being "Fairer than Snape, but. . . still very strict."
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3khc
06/08/18 10:12:43 PM
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Either way it doesn't make sense because Granger went to Gryffindor despite her brain. Magic doesn't make sense yo.
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/08/18 10:15:10 PM
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Gryffindor - heroes
Slytherin - villains
Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff - filler for the sorting hat scene
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Kelystic
06/08/18 10:16:41 PM
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Slytherin: all the future criminals go in this house. Most likely drug dealers, armed robbery, shoplifting, etc.
Hufflepuff: worst house. Future re-tail workers. Wal-Mart, McDonald's, janitorial jobs. Not talented, not successful.

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tremain07
06/08/18 10:16:44 PM
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People have the gall to compare this trash with Little Witch Academia for some reason.
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3khc
06/10/18 9:44:10 PM
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Did they ever explain the curriculum for each house
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Zikten
06/10/18 9:47:13 PM
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I have said for years that Harry should have been in Slyterin and the rival in Gryfindor
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Chronofan8
06/10/18 9:47:40 PM
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Never understood why the wizarding world wanted an 'obviously evil' house, but I guess that's why I'm not a wizard.
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yusiko
06/10/18 10:00:37 PM
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3khc posted...
Either way it doesn't make sense because Granger went to Gryffindor despite her brain. Magic doesn't make sense yo.


because she wanted to go in gryffindor

just like it wanted to put harry into slytherin but we wanted to be in gryffindor so the house let him

the same thing happened with ron with hufflepuff.

JK rowling confirmed it IIRC.
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averagejoel
06/10/18 10:01:47 PM
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yusiko posted...
3khc posted...
Either way it doesn't make sense because Granger went to Gryffindor despite her brain. Magic doesn't make sense yo.


because she wanted to go in gryffindor

just like it wanted to put harry into slytherin but we wanted to be in gryffindor so the house let him

the same thing happened with ron with hufflepuff.

JK rowling confirmed it IIRC.

Dumbledore also confirmed it at the end of book 2
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sobergermanguy
06/10/18 10:03:47 PM
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Hufflepuffs specalize in herbology which is pretty cool. Also, Harry is a loser outside of being the chosen one.
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Howl
06/10/18 10:11:42 PM
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yusiko posted...
3khc posted...
Either way it doesn't make sense because Granger went to Gryffindor despite her brain. Magic doesn't make sense yo.


because she wanted to go in gryffindor

just like it wanted to put harry into slytherin but we wanted to be in gryffindor so the house let him

the same thing happened with ron with hufflepuff.

JK rowling confirmed it IIRC.


Lol the sorting hat wanted to put Ron in the loser house.
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lilORANG
06/10/18 10:15:52 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
https://imgur.com/gallery/I2mrdVC

that's from the Hitchhiker's Guide movie. Wrong nerd reference.
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LinksLiege
06/10/18 10:17:39 PM
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Antifar posted...
Well, yeah, the entire HP universe is crafted specifically to add to Harry's importance

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Howl
06/10/18 11:03:54 PM
#25:


Something with the entire series just never sit right to me.

*Major Spoilers for whole series below*

Why didn't Dumbledore or Snape ever find it at least slightly beneficial to mention to Harry their plan? They literally just let Harry go on thinking Snape was trying to kill him until Snape died. How could they think that could possibly be helpful or a better strategy than just telling Harry the truth?
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3khc
06/10/18 11:12:56 PM
#26:


Howl posted...
Something with the entire series just never sit right to me.

*Major Spoilers for whole series below*

Why didn't Dumbledore or Snape ever find it at least slightly beneficial to mention to Harry their plan? They literally just let Harry go on thinking Snape was trying to kill him until Snape died. How could they think that could possibly be helpful or a better strategy than just telling Harry the truth?

Snape hated Harry regardless. So nothing concerning their interactions would have changed. BUT Dumbledore's plan WAS to kill Harry at the end. Albus figured out that Harry was a horcrux. They were planning on using that knowledge against Voldemort.
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Howl
06/10/18 11:13:58 PM
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3khc posted...
Howl posted...
Something with the entire series just never sit right to me.

*Major Spoilers for whole series below*

Why didn't Dumbledore or Snape ever find it at least slightly beneficial to mention to Harry their plan? They literally just let Harry go on thinking Snape was trying to kill him until Snape died. How could they think that could possibly be helpful or a better strategy than just telling Harry the truth?

Snape hated Harry regardless. So nothing concerning their interactions would have changed. BUT Dumbledore's plan WAS to kill Harry at the end. Albus figured out that Harry was a horcrux. They were planning on using that knowledge against Voldemort.


What? That's fucking crazy. That's pretty mindblowing tbh.
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3khc
06/10/18 11:15:07 PM
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Howl posted...
3khc posted...
Howl posted...
Something with the entire series just never sit right to me.

*Major Spoilers for whole series below*

Why didn't Dumbledore or Snape ever find it at least slightly beneficial to mention to Harry their plan? They literally just let Harry go on thinking Snape was trying to kill him until Snape died. How could they think that could possibly be helpful or a better strategy than just telling Harry the truth?

Snape hated Harry regardless. So nothing concerning their interactions would have changed. BUT Dumbledore's plan WAS to kill Harry at the end. Albus figured out that Harry was a horcrux. They were planning on using that knowledge against Voldemort.


What? That's fucking crazy. That's pretty mindblowing tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeG_judrcOA" data-time="

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Howl
06/10/18 11:19:08 PM
#29:


3khc posted...
Howl posted...
3khc posted...
Howl posted...
Something with the entire series just never sit right to me.

*Major Spoilers for whole series below*

Why didn't Dumbledore or Snape ever find it at least slightly beneficial to mention to Harry their plan? They literally just let Harry go on thinking Snape was trying to kill him until Snape died. How could they think that could possibly be helpful or a better strategy than just telling Harry the truth?

Snape hated Harry regardless. So nothing concerning their interactions would have changed. BUT Dumbledore's plan WAS to kill Harry at the end. Albus figured out that Harry was a horcrux. They were planning on using that knowledge against Voldemort.


What? That's fucking crazy. That's pretty mindblowing tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeG_judrcOA" data-time="


Yeah I saw that. BUT

I thought that was just supposed to mean that Dumbledore believed that because a part of Voldemorts soul was within Harry he would die if Voldemort died, not that the two of them were plotting to just straight kill Harry.
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3khc
06/11/18 12:11:27 AM
#30:


Howl posted...
3khc posted...
Howl posted...
3khc posted...
Howl posted...
Something with the entire series just never sit right to me.

*Major Spoilers for whole series below*

Why didn't Dumbledore or Snape ever find it at least slightly beneficial to mention to Harry their plan? They literally just let Harry go on thinking Snape was trying to kill him until Snape died. How could they think that could possibly be helpful or a better strategy than just telling Harry the truth?

Snape hated Harry regardless. So nothing concerning their interactions would have changed. BUT Dumbledore's plan WAS to kill Harry at the end. Albus figured out that Harry was a horcrux. They were planning on using that knowledge against Voldemort.


What? That's fucking crazy. That's pretty mindblowing tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeG_judrcOA" data-time="


Yeah I saw that. BUT

I thought that was just supposed to mean that Dumbledore believed that because a part of Voldemorts soul was within Harry he would die if Voldemort died, not that the two of them were plotting to just straight kill Harry.

Nah, they needed to kill all of Voldemort's horcruxes in order to truly kill him. By all means, Dumbledore and Snape were fully aware that Harry had to die to accomplish this. Harry only survived due to

A) Lily's love enchantment still being in effect.
B) Harry owning all three Deathly Hallows at the time of avada kedavra (making him unkillable according to legend)
C) Voldemort somehow only killing the horcrux part of Harry 's soul.

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Pogo_Marimo
06/11/18 12:25:21 AM
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3khc posted...
Howl posted...
3khc posted...
Howl posted...
3khc posted...
Howl posted...
Something with the entire series just never sit right to me.

*Major Spoilers for whole series below*

Why didn't Dumbledore or Snape ever find it at least slightly beneficial to mention to Harry their plan? They literally just let Harry go on thinking Snape was trying to kill him until Snape died. How could they think that could possibly be helpful or a better strategy than just telling Harry the truth?

Snape hated Harry regardless. So nothing concerning their interactions would have changed. BUT Dumbledore's plan WAS to kill Harry at the end. Albus figured out that Harry was a horcrux. They were planning on using that knowledge against Voldemort.


What? That's fucking crazy. That's pretty mindblowing tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeG_judrcOA" data-time="


Yeah I saw that. BUT

I thought that was just supposed to mean that Dumbledore believed that because a part of Voldemorts soul was within Harry he would die if Voldemort died, not that the two of them were plotting to just straight kill Harry.

Nah, they needed to kill all of Voldemort's horcruxes in order to truly kill him. By all means, Dumbledore and Snape were fully aware that Harry had to die to accomplish this. Harry only survived due to

A) Lily's love enchantment still being in effect.
B) Harry owning all three Deathly Hallows at the time of avada kedavra (making him unkillable according to legend)
C) Voldemort somehow only killing the horcrux part of Harry 's soul.

It was Lily's Love Enchantment and the Elder Wand specifically, not Harry being a "Master of Death" (Which simply means he did not fear death, not that he had the Deathly Hallows, which he didn't at the time). The Elder Wand would not kill Harry because it still saw Harry as its true master. Instead, it only killed the thing inside him that was not him--Voldemort's soul.

Harry's choice at the King's Cross, ultimately, was what brought him back to life though. He could have chosen to pass on or continue his struggle after getting hit by the Avada Kedavra, and he chose to live.
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jumi
06/11/18 12:32:43 AM
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sobergermanguy posted...
Hufflepuffs specalize in herbology which is pretty cool. Also, Harry is a loser outside of being the chosen one.


My boy Neville is the herbology master.
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Ivynn
06/11/18 12:36:39 AM
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ClockworkHare posted...
Some writers create the world after the protagonist instead of vice versa.


That's actually a good way to put it. HP's worldbuilding was built around Harry, unlike for example Lord of the Rings's worldbuilding which was built around the setting first.
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Jiek_Fafn
06/11/18 12:46:12 AM
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Harry should've been a hufflepuff. The only spell he's actually good at is the one that fights dementors. Besides that he mostly just used his wand as a flashlight. His most notable skill is climbing shit, which wizards generally have other options to work around that.
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