Poll of the Day > If there was still neanderthals would sapiens be racist to them?

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yourDaddie
06/05/18 8:57:53 PM
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How would raciam work if there was still neanderthala arround? - Results (1 vote)
White and black sapiens vs white and black neanderthals
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White sapiens and white neanderthals vs black sapiens and black neanderthals
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Just curious what do you guys think
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JOExHIGASHI
06/05/18 9:09:49 PM
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we would treat them like animals
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MrMelodramatic
06/05/18 9:11:10 PM
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WS v BS v WN v BN
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yourDaddie
06/05/18 9:12:29 PM
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MrMelodramatic posted...
WS v BS v WN v BN

I didnt tought of this
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faramir77
06/05/18 9:27:59 PM
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The smartest Neanderthal on Earth would be about as intelligent as your average Trailer Park Boys character.

JOExHIGASHI posted...
we would treat them like animals

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LinkPizza
06/05/18 9:35:48 PM
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They would end up with their own reality show...
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ParanoidObsessive
06/05/18 9:50:10 PM
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"Me against my brother, my brother and I against my cousin, and all of us against the stranger."

That's pretty much the defining principle of human nature. We always group ourselves into "us", and "them", and define "them" as "the enemy".

Racism is just when you use skin color as the defining trait that separates "us" from "them". As humans, we also use religion, nationality, sex/gender, ideology, and about a thousand other factors to draw that line. In the smaller scale, things like which sports team you root for or which console you prefer is enough to define "THE ENEMY".

One can only assume that "that blatantly other species that looks nothing like me and seems to think differently than I do" would draw a pretty hard line.

It's also why some people have said in the past that the only way we'll ever truly have peace on Earth is if we're attacked by aliens, because that way we'd be able to define them as "them" and in the process lump all humans as "us", erasing lesser distinctions. And even then, for some people, some of the other distinctions would still be worse (hence why sci-fi always seems to have fifth columns and race traitors who turn on humanity to side with the aliens for one reason or another).


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RoboXgp89
06/05/18 10:07:17 PM
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yeah we used to measure skulls in the 30's but humans are really 5 different species
skin color/eye color/social position is how we judge
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NeoSioType
06/05/18 10:13:06 PM
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They would star on car insurance and beef jerky commercials.

Would also be cool to get that hobbit species.

And maybe an elf species master race to rule us all.
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Justin2Krelian
06/05/18 10:13:08 PM
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There probably wouldn't be black Neanderthals since, unless I'm mistaken, they were in Europe for eons before Homo Sapiens. I could definitely see early civilizations using Neanderthals for slave labor.
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Bugmeat
06/05/18 10:15:56 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
we would treat them like animals

Most likely. We wouldn't see much racism between homosapiens either. We'd all gang up on the inferior neanderthals.
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DrPrimemaster
06/05/18 10:22:27 PM
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Aren't homo sapiens partly responsible for killing them off in the first place?
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ReggieTheReckless
06/05/18 10:33:55 PM
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inb4: They're still here!
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LeetCheet
06/05/18 11:04:17 PM
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Imagine the neanderthal children and how hard they would get bullied at school.
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ParanoidObsessive
06/05/18 11:06:47 PM
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DrPrimemaster posted...
Aren't homo sapiens partly responsible for killing them off in the first place?

We basically outcompeted them, killed them, and occasionally fucked them.

How Europeans interacted with Native Americans in North America is probably a pretty good analogy for how Neanderthals were driven extinct. Just imagine that Americans and Canadians never stopped treating them the way we did for the first few hundred years, and we basically kept treating them that way until all of them were gone.


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RoboXgp89
06/05/18 11:17:54 PM
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thats the dumbest crap I've ever heard
do you honestly think racism existed that long ago if people had to walk places?
neanderthals are closer to asiatic tribes like the mongols and huns
if anything they would have spread further south since we had sex with them
I'm pretty sure they're the reason humans are so tall

also the first blue eyed person was brown/black
for humans to turn white all they have to do is live in the far north long enough where it snows a lot
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wwinterj25
06/05/18 11:19:17 PM
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yourDaddie posted...
Just curious what do you guys think

That you need to get a better gimmick.
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Justin2Krelian
06/05/18 11:55:06 PM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
thats the dumbest crap I've ever heard
do you honestly think racism existed that long ago if people had to walk places?
neanderthals are closer to asiatic tribes like the mongols and huns
if anything they would have spread further south since we had sex with them
I'm pretty sure they're the reason humans are so tall

also the first blue eyed person was brown/black
for humans to turn white all they have to do is live in the far north long enough where it snows a lot


Really not sure who you're responding to there, especially since you posted earlier. I thought it might have been me but that last point is basically the same as mine, but than again I'm not sure if that's even sarcasm. If so, its hard to take you seriously since you seem to barely address my point and immediately jumped to the name calling. If not, fine.
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argonautweakend
06/06/18 12:08:11 AM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
we would treat them like animals
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RoboXgp89
06/06/18 1:44:07 AM
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to the person saying they were genocided obviously they weren't if we had sex with them

and I don't know how someone dozens of thousands of years ago could get involved in slave labour if there was essentially nothing else to do
they'd be working alongside everyone else below a chosen god, probably an elder
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ParanoidObsessive
06/06/18 2:24:04 AM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
to the person saying they were genocided obviously they weren't if we had sex with them

You can both have sex with and murder people. Sometimes not even in that order.


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EightySeven
06/06/18 2:30:22 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
You can both have sex with and murder people. Sometimes not even in that order.


I think he's trying to say that it was an incomplete genocide so we settled on fucking them out of existence.
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ParanoidObsessive
06/06/18 3:33:41 AM
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EightySeven posted...
I think he's trying to say that it was an incomplete genocide so we settled on fucking them out of existence.

It's probably more likely that we murdered them out of existence, and parts of them only managed to survive at all because some of us fucked them, and the resulting offspring managed to assimilate into our society rather than their own.

Again, Native Americans are a really good parallel there. Except in their case, we eventually stopped killing them and just started giving them casinos.

Clearly, if casinos had been a thing 50,000 years ago, there might still be Neanderthals around today.


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zebatov
06/06/18 3:35:19 AM
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Skin v skin. Not wanted, just how it is.

What I think is weird is that "birds of a feather flock together", meanwhile all dogs know other dogs and would mingle before they would mingle with cats of the same colour as themselves, even if the personalities between the dog and cat were the same.
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VeeVees
06/06/18 3:44:17 AM
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yourDaddie posted...
MrMelodramatic posted...
WS v BS v WN v BN

I didnt tought of this

(WS v BS) v (WN v BN)
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GanglyKhan
06/06/18 6:59:25 AM
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NeoSioType posted...
And maybe an elf species master race to rule us all.

You do realize that elves are the universal fuccbois of nearly all fantasy series, right?
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Far-Queue
06/06/18 7:04:50 AM
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This is sort of the premise behind Far Cry Primal.
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yourDaddie
06/06/18 9:31:58 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
DrPrimemaster posted...
Aren't homo sapiens partly responsible for killing them off in the first place?

We basically outcompeted them, killed them, and occasionally fucked them.

How Europeans interacted with Native Americans in North America is probably a pretty good analogy for how Neanderthals were driven extinct. Just imagine that Americans and Canadians never stopped treating them the way we did for the first few hundred years, and we basically kept treating them that way until all of them were gone.


Actually we interbreeed a loot too.... Everyone today execpt for subsaharan africans are between 2 to 4 per cent neanderthal. Black people have no neandethal genes because neanderthals didnt live in africa so they didnt have a. Chance to have sex with them...also pacific islanders interbreed whit another human species too the denisovians or hobits
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RoboXgp89
06/06/18 11:10:46 AM
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yeah people don't typically murder unless there's some cult they're afraid of or there is famine or they just live in a resourceless area
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Runner_style
06/06/18 11:27:29 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
They would end up with their own reality show...


Keeping up with the Kardashians already exists.
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Mead
06/06/18 11:27:29 AM
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Were totally racist towards people that are basically exactly the same as us so yeah Im sure we would be very racist towards a whole other sub species
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Grendel
06/07/18 2:22:45 AM
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faramir77 posted...
The smartest Neanderthal on Earth would be about as intelligent as your average Trailer Park Boys character.


I'm not sure why you'd think that. There's actually some evidence they were smarter than homo sapiens.
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yourDaddie
06/07/18 12:31:20 PM
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Grendel posted...
faramir77 posted...
The smartest Neanderthal on Earth would be about as intelligent as your average Trailer Park Boys character.


I'm not sure why you'd think that. There's actually some evidence they were smarter than homo sapiens.


They were smarther. The problem is that their culture was too conservative and didnt innovate like homo sapiens did
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Zikten
06/07/18 12:37:10 PM
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yes. sapians would treat neanderthals as a different species and oppress them if we managed to get in power over them.
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JOExHIGASHI
06/07/18 5:50:52 PM
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yourDaddie posted...
Grendel posted...
faramir77 posted...
The smartest Neanderthal on Earth would be about as intelligent as your average Trailer Park Boys character.


I'm not sure why you'd think that. There's actually some evidence they were smarter than homo sapiens.


They were smarther. The problem is that their culture was too conservative and didnt innovate like homo sapiens did


I heard the problem was they weren't violent enough or were simply bred out of existence
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Questionmarktarius
06/07/18 5:59:03 PM
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