Current Events > Ironically, the Wii U's failure seems to be the Switch's biggest advantage

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Coffeebeanz
06/01/18 10:42:36 AM
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A ton of AAA games nobody played get re-released on Switch and fly off the shelves. Within a year, the Switch got Zelda, Mario Kart, Splatoon, Mario, Xenoblade 2 and DKC. You'd normally have to wait an entire Nintendo console generation to get one of each of their major franchises, yet here we are.

Plus, the added portability gives a pretty good incentive for even Wii U owners (all five of them) to double dip.

That's a pretty lucky pivot for Nintendo.
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Romulox28
06/01/18 10:43:21 AM
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if the switch smash bros is a smash bros 4 port im going to be pissed
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Coffeebeanz
06/01/18 10:45:31 AM
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Romulox28 posted...
if the switch smash bros is a smash bros 4 port im going to be pissed


I bet it's going to be a combination of the Wii U and 3DS versions like Hyrule Warriors was.
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AlabamaLove
06/01/18 10:46:07 AM
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I always assumed the wii u was like the gba sp. Just an upgrade. It blew my mind when I found out it was its own console.
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Sad_Face
06/01/18 11:00:40 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Romulox28 posted...
if the switch smash bros is a smash bros 4 port im going to be pissed


I bet it's going to be a combination of the Wii U and 3DS versions like Hyrule Warriors was.


No one wants just that. It needs to be a full fledged sequel.
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SGT_Conti
06/01/18 11:03:15 AM
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AlabamaLove posted...
I always assumed the wii u was like the gba sp. Just an upgrade. It blew my mind when I found out it was its own console.

Yeah, it was poorly advertised and poorly named. I consider myself a pretty heavy gamer and I didn't even know it came out at the time, nor that it wasn't some upgrade. I can't imagine how it'd be like for the average consumer.
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Giant_Aspirin
06/01/18 11:04:02 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...

Plus, the added portability gives a pretty good incentive for even Wii U owners (all five of them) to double dip.


the portability factor is actually why i don't want one. i'll literally never use it and it means i get an underpowered console. i'll probably cave and buy one for metroid if it looks good but yeah, portability is actually a turn-off for me.
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SSJCAT
06/01/18 11:07:57 AM
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I skipped both the wii and the Wii U because I was 14 or 15 when the Wii came out and after the awesome and amazing GameCube I was like fucking motion controls? stupid kids mini games? almost zero games I care about?

I felt bad about it as I got older because I started on Nintendo and always loved Nintendo, but they really got me with the switch. I love the thing, and tho I use my ps4 way more often, whenever a game I want comes out for Switch I get super excited :3!
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soulunison2
06/01/18 11:15:10 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...

Plus, the added portability gives a pretty good incentive for even Wii U owners (all five of them) to double dip.


the portability factor is actually why i don't want one. i'll literally never use it and it means i get an underpowered console. i'll probably cave and buy one for metroid if it looks good but yeah, portability is actually a turn-off for me.


Youd be surprised sometimes I do end up taking it
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Romulox28
06/01/18 11:29:30 AM
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soulunison2 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...

Plus, the added portability gives a pretty good incentive for even Wii U owners (all five of them) to double dip.


the portability factor is actually why i don't want one. i'll literally never use it and it means i get an underpowered console. i'll probably cave and buy one for metroid if it looks good but yeah, portability is actually a turn-off for me.


Youd be surprised sometimes I do end up taking it

yea, i thought i'd never use the portability, and while i do play in the dock like 95% of the time, the few times i have taken the switch with me places has been really nice.

it was really cool to play multiplayer mario kart on a plane, use the switch to play party games in a hotel, etc
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wah_wah_wah
06/01/18 11:32:59 AM
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The Switch is the worst Nintendo console for previous owners of Wii U. I should really just sell mine because I'll probably never play it. If I find out the new Smash is a port, it's getting sold pronto.
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Arcanine2009
06/01/18 11:43:10 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Romulox28 posted...
if the switch smash bros is a smash bros 4 port im going to be pissed


I bet it's going to be a combination of the Wii U and 3DS versions like Hyrule Warriors was.

Or it could get the splatoon 2 treatment. Reused assets, but new game
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DoomSwell
06/01/18 12:13:52 PM
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Even though I have a WiiU, I never bought any games for it except the Zeldas.
I didn't want any of the games getting ported to the switch so Im feeling dumb for getting one.
Im just waiting for Fire Emblem and Octopath though, I hope FE is good.
Oh, and Ys8 should have a proper translation.
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Doe
06/01/18 12:14:48 PM
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It makes the Switch look better but the company would be better off if the Wii U had succeeded
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_BIueMonk
06/01/18 12:15:42 PM
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i hope we get windwaker hd on switch.
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Banjo2553
06/01/18 12:19:36 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Romulox28 posted...
if the switch smash bros is a smash bros 4 port im going to be pissed


I bet it's going to be a combination of the Wii U and 3DS versions like Hyrule Warriors was.

Has to be a combination + more. And by more I mean different modes. I don't want anyone except the outright clones (Dark Pit, Lucina, Dr. Mario) to be removed.
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Doe
06/01/18 12:21:12 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
I don't want anyone except the outright clones (Dark Pit, Lucina, Dr. Mario) to be removed.

-Demanding less content
Only the Smash community
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Banjo2553
06/01/18 12:23:49 PM
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Doe posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
I don't want anyone except the outright clones (Dark Pit, Lucina, Dr. Mario) to be removed.

-Demanding less content
Only the Smash community

I mean if they have to remove characters (it's been that way for every Smash game except 64 to Melee) I'd rather it be the clones rather than one with a unique moveset. I'd prefer no removals though. That said with how many FE reps there are in Smash 4 I'd like if they could turn Lucina into a Marth alt costume and give that slot to another FE rep, like maybe an axe user since we have a lance user with Corrin.
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Doe
06/01/18 12:27:56 PM
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Characters are removed likely based on priority and production constraints, but clone characters are just taking an existing model and editing it and changing some numbers. So the work is simple and additive there but with new characters the work is multiplicative since you have no idea how they'll work with the rest of the game yet. So clone characters are never going to be a reason why Ice Climbers or Wolf aren't in a Smash game.
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Banjo2553
06/01/18 12:30:57 PM
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Doe posted...
Characters are removed likely based on priority and production constraints, but clone characters are just taking an existing model and editing it and changing some numbers. So the work is simple and additive there but with new characters the work is multiplicative since you have no idea how they'll work with the rest of the game yet. So clone characters are never going to be a reason why Ice Climbers or Wolf aren't in a Smash game.

True. I suppose clone characters are inevitable. I just really like Smash 4's roster and don't want any of that removed + add returning characters that didn't make it (like Ice Climbers and Wolf like you said) and new ones.
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GeneralKenobi85
06/01/18 12:50:43 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Romulox28 posted...
if the switch smash bros is a smash bros 4 port im going to be pissed


I bet it's going to be a combination of the Wii U and 3DS versions like Hyrule Warriors was.

Has to be a combination + more. And by more I mean different modes. I don't want anyone except the outright clones (Dark Pit, Lucina, Dr. Mario) to be removed.

There's the idea that Mario might get a changed moveset, and if that were the case, keeping Doc around with Mario's old moveset would make a lot of sense. As for Dark Pit, I think they could put some more effort into him, but if they were to do that, they might as well just replace him with the superior Hades. Lucina is pretty much a lost cause though. And Fire Emblem has so many characters that it makes sense to remove her for someone else. Marth and Ike are the only ones who should be absolutely safe.
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soulunison2
06/01/18 12:54:23 PM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
The Switch is the worst Nintendo console for previous owners of Wii U. I should really just sell mine because I'll probably never play it. If I find out the new Smash is a port, it's getting sold pronto.


Thats the thing though

No one bought a Wii u
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voldothegr8
06/01/18 1:03:26 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
The Switch is the worst Nintendo console for previous owners of Wii U. I should really just sell mine because I'll probably never play it. If I find out the new Smash is a port, it's getting sold pronto.


Thats the thing though

No one bought a Wii u

No one except 13 million people. For those people his point stands.
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soulunison2
06/01/18 1:08:36 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
The Switch is the worst Nintendo console for previous owners of Wii U. I should really just sell mine because I'll probably never play it. If I find out the new Smash is a port, it's getting sold pronto.


Thats the thing though

No one bought a Wii u

No one except 13 million people. For those people his point stands.


Compared to the 100 mil + people that bought a Wii that is nothing lmao
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Zikten
06/01/18 1:09:35 PM
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AlabamaLove posted...
I always assumed the wii u was like the gba sp. Just an upgrade. It blew my mind when I found out it was its own console.

I think that's why it failed. alot of people were like you. even at the E3 reveal, it wasn't clear enough to people, that it was a new console.
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voldothegr8
06/01/18 1:13:54 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
The Switch is the worst Nintendo console for previous owners of Wii U. I should really just sell mine because I'll probably never play it. If I find out the new Smash is a port, it's getting sold pronto.


Thats the thing though

No one bought a Wii u

No one except 13 million people. For those people his point stands.


Compared to the 100 mil + people that bought a Wii that is nothing lmao

Okay, but his point still stands.
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soulunison2
06/01/18 1:17:51 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
The Switch is the worst Nintendo console for previous owners of Wii U. I should really just sell mine because I'll probably never play it. If I find out the new Smash is a port, it's getting sold pronto.


Thats the thing though

No one bought a Wii u

No one except 13 million people. For those people his point stands.


Compared to the 100 mil + people that bought a Wii that is nothing lmao

Okay, but his point still stands.


Oh for sure just making fun of him for buying into Nintendo hype lmao
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butthole666
06/01/18 1:27:01 PM
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The Wii U is still the best VC machine but I haven't and probably never will buy any actual Wii U games other than the Zeldas. I got BOTW for it because I was impatient and I'll likely rebuy that now that I have a Switch.
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voldothegr8
06/01/18 1:31:07 PM
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butthole666 posted...
The Wii U is still the best VC machine but I haven't and probably never will buy any actual Wii U games other than the Zeldas. I got BOTW for it because I was impatient and I'll likely rebuy that now that I have a Switch.

I bought BotW for Wii U because I wasn't sure how the Switch would shake out. I don't plan on rebuying, I put hundreds of hours into the game and have no desire to start over. I treat it as sending my Wii U off with a bang, plus it's still hooked up if I get an itch to play BotW.
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TheVipaGTS
06/01/18 1:32:26 PM
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the switch released them all fairly close to each other and announced them ahead of time giving people a reason to buy.

With the Wii U they were spaced out. People couldnt justify buying a console for one game with the hope of other games soon so they went with other consoles.
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Vyrulisse
06/01/18 1:33:28 PM
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It sucks because the Wii U wasn't a bad system it's that most people didn't know wtf it was. A lot of people thought it was an add-on for the Wii and not a new system.

Nintendo dropped the ball big time marketing it and explaining what it was exactly.
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Master_Bass
06/01/18 1:42:36 PM
#32:


AlabamaLove posted...
I always assumed the wii u was like the gba sp. Just an upgrade. It blew my mind when I found out it was its own console.

I can't imagine thinking this, but I don't blame you. Nintendo did really drop the ball with naming the thing. You're certainly not the only person confused about what it was.
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wah_wah_wah
06/01/18 2:11:43 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
The Switch is the worst Nintendo console for previous owners of Wii U. I should really just sell mine because I'll probably never play it. If I find out the new Smash is a port, it's getting sold pronto.


Thats the thing though

No one bought a Wii u

No one except 13 million people. For those people his point stands.


Compared to the 100 mil + people that bought a Wii that is nothing lmao

Okay, but his point still stands.


Oh for sure just making fun of him for buying into Nintendo hype lmao

How was I suppose to know they were a scam company? What other major game developer has ever just repeated all their shit on the next console with literally nothing new?
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soulunison2
06/01/18 2:14:12 PM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
soulunison2 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
The Switch is the worst Nintendo console for previous owners of Wii U. I should really just sell mine because I'll probably never play it. If I find out the new Smash is a port, it's getting sold pronto.


Thats the thing though

No one bought a Wii u

No one except 13 million people. For those people his point stands.


Compared to the 100 mil + people that bought a Wii that is nothing lmao

Okay, but his point still stands.


Oh for sure just making fun of him for buying into Nintendo hype lmao

How was I suppose to know they were a scam company? What other major game developer has ever just repeated all their shit on the next console with literally nothing new?


>console

Lmao pc master race dude foh
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