Poll of the Day > Black Family get 4 CENTS after COPS Killed their DAD for playing RAP MUSIC!!!

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Full Throttle
05/31/18 11:46:03 PM
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Do you think this verdict is an outrage?? - Results (2 votes)
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The family of a father of 3 who was shot and killed by cops THROUGH HIS GARAGE DOOR are left heartbroken after a jury awarded them just 4 CENTS in damages because they lay blame on the FATHER's fault for getting himself killed by cops for being drunk and playing RAP MUSIC at his home!!

30 y/o Gregory Hill was gunned down in Florida by deputy Christopher Newman and his partner Edward Lopez while they were responding to a news complaint.

Shocking photos show the garage door with bullet holes after the shooting...but the jury said it was Hills fault for his own death because he was "drunk" and determiend the cops were only 1% liable!!

As a result, they were initially rewarded just 4 dollars in damages, including 3 for the suffering of his children..but now it was reduced to just 4 cents and multiplied by .01 because of the 1% liability of the cops

This prompted outrage as John Bryant, the attorney said "That a black child's pain is only worth a dollar is exactly the problem with the plight of the African American right now. This says, black lives don't matter"

They awarded 1 buck for the mother, Viola and 1 for the funeral and 1 to each of the children as it was intended to "compensate" them for the loss of a parent for "instruction and guidance and mental pain and suffering"

The ruling was perplexing given that the funeral expenses alone cost 11,000 and wondered why the jury awarded anything at all if it were that minimal

The jury said because he was DRUNK, he was at fault for his own death and that the officers were right to pull the trigger

Hill was playing loud music that contained the "N-WORD" and his neighbors were concerned over the music after picking up their kids from school and heard the offending sound and called police

When they knocked on the garage and front doors, the doors opened partially but then closed again..it was that moment, Newman fired fired 4 SHOTS into the garage striking Hill once in the head and killed him instantly

Hill did have a firearm in his pocket but it was unloaded and there was no evidence Hill had pointed his weapon at anyone.

His blood alcohol content was .40, five times the driving limit

The family filed a wrongful death suit against the police for excessive force as a gofundme page was created following the verdict for his 3 children aged 7, 10 and 14.

Hill was playing Drake's "All Me" from his garage..

Do you think this verdict is an outrage??

Greg (Deceased) and his family -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/01/00/4CCC9B3700000578-5792961-image-a-8_1527809579019.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/01/00/4CCC976900000578-5792961-image-a-9_1527809589073.jpg

The shocking bullet holes -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/01/02/4CCD11D800000578-5792961-image-a-20_1527816766202.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/01/00/4CCC977100000578-5792961-image-a-11_1527809605577.jpg
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ASlaveObeys
06/01/18 12:05:40 AM
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I'm sure this is the whole story.
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Muscles
06/01/18 12:09:10 AM
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This is why people don't like cops
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LinkPizza
06/01/18 12:09:21 AM
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ASlaveObeys posted...
I'm sure this is the whole story.

I agree. There has to be more. This story the way it is makes no sense...
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LinkPizza
06/01/18 12:12:46 AM
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Muscles posted...
This is why people don't like cops

I mean, the media is making them out to be horrible all the time. But its also only a small fractions of cops that are bad. And also, I dont think this is the whole story... There has to be more for this to make sense.
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Golden Road
06/01/18 12:22:55 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
I mean, the media is making them out to be horrible all the time. But its also only a small fractions of cops that are bad.

The problem is that, instead of holding the bad cops accountable, the system protects them. When good cops defend bad cops, then they're not really that good.
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Super_Thug44
06/01/18 12:28:06 AM
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i don't see how the cops could be put in any good light here. it looks like they shot at him AFTER the garage had been closed. but why? I can't really think of a decent reason for them to do that unless he said he had a gun and was going to shoot up his family inside or something. but even then they risk shooting other people potentially inside the garage as well.

that or there is something missing from the story.
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LinkPizza
06/01/18 12:28:31 AM
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Golden Road posted...
LinkPizza posted...
I mean, the media is making them out to be horrible all the time. But its also only a small fractions of cops that are bad.

The problem is that, instead of holding the bad cops accountable, the system protects them. When good cops defend bad cops, then they're not really that good.

But not all the good cops are protecting the bad cops. Sometimes, its the police chief and/or the mayor. Sometimes, it Ian other good cops, but sometimes, the good Copenhagen are saying they should fired the bad cops. But its usually not them who get to make the call to do that or not...
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yutterh
06/01/18 1:09:30 AM
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I....just don't understand this......this is just....what?.....I can't even collect my thoughts.......this is uncomprehending to me......
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ASlaveObeys
06/01/18 1:12:52 AM
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https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/5/31/17414344/gregory-vaughn-hill-jr-police-shooting-florida-4-dollar-settlement

Had a gun (unloaded but on him) and was drunk and irate when the shooting happened.
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Super_Thug44
06/01/18 1:26:52 AM
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ASlaveObeys posted...
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/5/31/17414344/gregory-vaughn-hill-jr-police-shooting-florida-4-dollar-settlement

Had a gun (unloaded but on him) and was drunk and irate when the shooting happened.


Usually I tend to lean more towards the cops side when I hear cases about these kinds of shootings because I can see some perspective on why they opened fire. But literally nothing in that article or in duckbear's original post is helping me understand why the cops shot at a closed garage door on someone who was just drunk and blaring music. There's not even a mention of the cops "fearing for their lives" as is usually the case so this is completely bonkers to me.

And that $4 payout is fucking insulting and absolutely disgusting. Like what the fuck kind of a jury is that to think that is an appropriate compensation?
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OhhhJa
06/01/18 1:27:59 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
Hill did have a firearm in his pocket but it was unloaded and there was no evidence Hill had pointed his weapon at anyone.

Here's where a lot of the story is probably omitted
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Zeus
06/01/18 1:32:06 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
The family of a father of 3 who was shot and killed by cops THROUGH HIS GARAGE DOOR are left heartbroken after a jury awarded them just 4 CENTS in damages because they lay blame on the FATHER's fault for getting himself killed by cops for being drunk and playing RAP MUSIC at his home!!


...four dollars, not four cents.

Golden Road posted...
LinkPizza posted...
I mean, the media is making them out to be horrible all the time. But its also only a small fractions of cops that are bad.

The problem is that, instead of holding the bad cops accountable, the system protects them. When good cops defend bad cops, then they're not really that good.


...most of the cops being attacked in the press aren't bad in the first place. Any time there's controversy, the majority of people are automatically against the cops (although not necessarily through fault of their own, since the media leads with sensationalist headlines and soundbytes which obscure the more nuanced reality). Not every case is Rodney King.

ASlaveObeys posted...
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/5/31/17414344/gregory-vaughn-hill-jr-police-shooting-florida-4-dollar-settlement

Had a gun (unloaded but on him) and was drunk and irate when the shooting happened.


And they were responding to a noise complaint where he opened and closed the door, during which the weapon was apparently brandished. People whining about the cops firing through the door forget that it was possible for the suspect to fire through that same door at the cops and, when the door goes down, they have no clue what he's doing with that gun. It was a stupid move on his part, but he was drunk.
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LinkPizza
06/01/18 1:33:39 AM
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Zeus posted...
...four dollars, not four cents.

I thought it started as for dollars, then they said they were only liable for 1% of the damages, so it went to 4 cents...

Zeus posted...
during which the weapon was apparently brandished.

I thought they said it wasn't brandished...
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Rasmoh
06/01/18 1:35:46 AM
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Super_Thug44 posted...
Like what the fuck kind of a jury is that to think that is an appropriate compensation?


Large parts of the story are almost assuredly being omitted, so there's that.

Also, considering that he had 3 kids and was likely unemployed and collecting welfare, perhaps the jury thought that the state didn't need to be funneling more money into a welfare pit?
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Super_Thug44
06/01/18 1:36:29 AM
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Zeus posted...
during which the weapon was apparently brandished.


It's late and I don't know if I skipped over this somewhere but where is this mentioned?
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Super_Thug44
06/01/18 1:37:38 AM
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Rasmoh posted...
Also, considering that he had 3 kids and was likely unemployed and collecting welfare


That's some serious assumption making right there. Why would you assume that?
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LinkPizza
06/01/18 1:38:02 AM
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Super_Thug44 posted...
Zeus posted...
during which the weapon was apparently brandished.


It's late and I don't know if I skipped over this somewhere but where is this mentioned?

I don't think it is...
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helIy
06/01/18 1:43:10 AM
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Rasmoh posted...
was likely unemployed and collecting welfare

your reason for this being...?
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Rasmoh
06/01/18 1:43:48 AM
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Super_Thug44 posted...
That's some serious assumption making right there. Why would you assume that?


Unmarried man with 3 kids at home on a weekday drinking enough to hit .4 BAC? Not typically the habits of your standard taxpayer. He also allegedly had a decade-long criminal history, though I can't find much to corroborate that right away.
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LinkPizza
06/01/18 1:46:56 AM
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Rasmoh posted...
Super_Thug44 posted...
That's some serious assumption making right there. Why would you assume that?


Unmarried man with 3 kids at home on a weekday drinking enough to hit .4 BAC? Not typically the habits of your standard taxpayer. He also allegedly had a decade-long criminal history, though I can't find much to corroborate that right away.

My mom currently isn't married and has three kids. And has been a police officer for nearly 30 years. Sure, she doesn't drink. But if he likes to drink and had a day off or took a few days off, then he can drink in the afternoon. Or it could have been after work was over. People have hard days sometimes, too. I'm not saying you're right or wrong. But that was some serious assumption making...
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helIy
06/01/18 1:47:49 AM
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Rasmoh posted...
Unmarried man with 3 kids at home on a weekday drinking enough to hit .4 BAC? Not typically the habits of your standard taxpayer.

sounds like a dude having a good time on his day off

Rasmoh posted...
He also allegedly had a decade-long criminal history, though I can't find much to corroborate that right away.

you probably wont, either.
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Rasmoh
06/01/18 1:50:30 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
But if he likes to drink and had a day off or took a few days off, then he can drink in the afternoon.


How many responsible fathers are getting drunk enough to hit .4 BAC as children are getting out of school, as stated in the article? Especially since his children should likely have been among them.

Also, he apparently had a long history of arrests and was actually on probation for drug possession at the time of his death.

So decades long criminal history, totally shitfaced in the middle of the day, 3 kids and not married? It would be more shocking if he wasn't on welfare.
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Rasmoh
06/01/18 1:52:25 AM
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helIy posted...
you probably wont, either.


Many news articles I read stated he had a long criminal history and was on probation at the time of his death. Can't do much more than that, unfortunately.
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LinkPizza
06/01/18 1:58:11 AM
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Rasmoh posted...
LinkPizza posted...
But if he likes to drink and had a day off or took a few days off, then he can drink in the afternoon.


How many responsible fathers are getting drunk enough to hit .4 BAC as children are getting out of school, as stated in the article? Especially since his children should likely have been among them.

Also, he apparently had a long history of arrests and was actually on probation for drug possession at the time of his death.

So decades long criminal history, totally shitfaced in the middle of the day, 3 kids and not married? It would be more shocking if he wasn't on welfare.

But we still have no proof of that...
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Lokarin
06/01/18 2:02:46 AM
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What was that story where a girl was to be awarded a billion dollars or something?
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Rasmoh
06/01/18 2:09:04 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
But we still have no proof of that...


Ok? I said it was likely, I didn't say that he was 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt collecting welfare. Just looking at the circumstances though, it's hard to believe that isn't the case.
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Keebs05
06/01/18 2:52:32 AM
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Rasmoh posted...
Super_Thug44 posted...
That's some serious assumption making right there. Why would you assume that?
Unmarried man with 3 kids at home on a weekday drinking enough to hit .4 BAC? Not typically the habits of your standard taxpayer. He also allegedly had a decade-long criminal history, though I can't find much to corroborate that right away.

He was engaged, worked for Coca-Cola and had the day off. I'll admit that while Full Throttle has a tendancy to cherry-pick what facts are posted, this whole story is a head scratcher. Gun was unloaded and found in his back pocket so I'm not sure how the officer saw the gun pointed at him.
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06/01/18 4:13:21 AM
#29:


Keebs05 posted...
He was engaged, worked for Coca-Cola and had the day off. I'll admit that while Full Throttle has a tendancy to cherry-pick what facts are posted, this whole story is a head scratcher. Gun was unloaded and found in his back pocket so I'm not sure how the officer saw the gun pointed at him.


He didn't. He was just pissed he was ignored so shot him since he knew he could get away with it.
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06/01/18 4:17:53 AM
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EvilMegas
06/01/18 6:42:36 AM
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Why does anyone respond to Rasmoh?
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adjl
06/01/18 9:17:52 AM
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Zeus posted...
People whining about the cops firing through the door forget that it was possible for the suspect to fire through that same door at the cops and, when the door goes down, they have no clue what he's doing with that gun.


So don't stand in front of the door? I'm pretty sure firing blindly through a closed door is never appropriate protocol.
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Super_Thug44
06/01/18 9:49:26 AM
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adjl posted...
Zeus posted...
People whining about the cops firing through the door forget that it was possible for the suspect to fire through that same door at the cops and, when the door goes down, they have no clue what he's doing with that gun.


So don't stand in front of the door? I'm pretty sure firing blindly through a closed door is never appropriate protocol.


which is exactly why this story is either not telling something very key to what really happened, or the cops are completely unjustified in this situation and are getting away with literal murder.

Rasmoh posted...
Super_Thug44 posted...
That's some serious assumption making right there. Why would you assume that?


Unmarried man with 3 kids at home on a weekday drinking enough to hit .4 BAC? Not typically the habits of your standard taxpayer. He also allegedly had a decade-long criminal history, though I can't find much to corroborate that right away.


I asked you that because in the article it said he had a job. I just wonder why people make baseless assumptions. Him having a high BAC is not something unique to "standard taxpayers". College kids and overstressed workers get shitfaced drunk occasionally too, doesn't mean they're on welfare. And where does it say he has a decade-long criminal history? I'm asking for real because I didn't read that.
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yutterh
06/01/18 11:07:11 AM
#34:


Super_Thug44 posted...
adjl posted...
Zeus posted...
People whining about the cops firing through the door forget that it was possible for the suspect to fire through that same door at the cops and, when the door goes down, they have no clue what he's doing with that gun.


So don't stand in front of the door? I'm pretty sure firing blindly through a closed door is never appropriate protocol.


which is exactly why this story is either not telling something very key to what really happened, or the cops are completely unjustified in this situation and are getting away with literal murder.

Rasmoh posted...
Super_Thug44 posted...
That's some serious assumption making right there. Why would you assume that?


Unmarried man with 3 kids at home on a weekday drinking enough to hit .4 BAC? Not typically the habits of your standard taxpayer. He also allegedly had a decade-long criminal history, though I can't find much to corroborate that right away.


I asked you that because in the article it said he had a job. I just wonder why people make baseless assumptions. Him having a high BAC is not something unique to "standard taxpayers". College kids and overstressed workers get shitfaced drunk occasionally too, doesn't mean they're on welfare. And where does it say he has a decade-long criminal history? I'm asking for real because I didn't read that.


They make these baseless assumptions because he looks like he is from the hood. So people assume everyone that looks like their from the hood are on welfare or are a harden criminal.

I just like to point out that his criminal history does not matter. He was just a dude trying to have a good time in his garage, who probhably freaked out by the cops who had zero right to open fire on someone they didn't know was aremed or not. One of them may have saw the gun in his back pocket and shot at him. Also this guy was within his rights to slam the door on them. If a cop knocks on your door and you close the door on them, they do not have the right to open fire through the damn door. This whole situation is terrible.
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Blightzkrieg
06/01/18 12:21:38 PM
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There's pretty much no justification for a cop shooting through a closed door unless the door itself is brandishing a weapon. We're fortunate this isn't a story of the guy's kids being shot.
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06/01/18 12:27:29 PM
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Bad cops, bad jury, bad judge.
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Zikten
06/01/18 12:31:15 PM
#37:


Blightzkrieg posted...
There's pretty much no justification for a cop shooting through a closed door

exactly. did the world learn nothing from Ruby Ridge? at Ruby Ridge a cop shot through a door and hit an unarmed woman inside killing her. I thought they would learn from that not to shoot through a closed door.
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adjl
06/01/18 12:50:00 PM
#38:


Blightzkrieg posted...
There's pretty much no justification for a cop shooting through a closed door unless the door itself is brandishing a weapon


I could see it maybe if it's a hostage situation and the SWAT team's managed to conclusively locate the hostage-taker with a thermal camera or something, and shooting through the door is their best bet for a clear shot, but that's very much not blindly shooting through a door. This was.
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BlackScythe0
06/01/18 3:09:20 PM
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I don't understand how this could possibly be a result from a jury trial.

This is absolutely insane. I mean I get it when the prosecutors conspire with police to obstruct justice in grand juries by hiding evidence... but that doesn't seem to have been what happened here?

And there are questions why people are angry with the justice system and law enforcement?
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MICHALECOLE
06/01/18 3:18:29 PM
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I wonder if the nra is gonna come to this guys defense
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BlackScythe0
06/01/18 3:39:00 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
I wonder if the nra is gonna come to this guys defense

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ASlaveObeys
06/01/18 4:32:01 PM
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I have to know where you guys get your info saying cops can't shoot through a closed door?
There was nothing in my training stating I can't.
The only questionable thing here is whether or not he showed the gun first.
I don't know. There is literally not enough information in any of the stories I can read to go either way.
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wwinterj25
06/01/18 5:19:42 PM
#43:


Full Throttle posted...
Hill was playing loud music that contained the "N-WORD" and his neighbors were concerned over the music after picking up their kids from school and heard the offending sound and called police

When they knocked on the garage and front doors, the doors opened partially but then closed again..it was that moment, Newman fired fired 4 SHOTS into the garage striking Hill once in the head and killed him instantly

Hill did have a firearm in his pocket but it was unloaded and there was no evidence Hill had pointed his weapon at anyone.


Fair, next.
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LinkPizza
06/01/18 5:38:58 PM
#44:


wwinterj25 posted...
Full Throttle posted...
Hill was playing loud music that contained the "N-WORD" and his neighbors were concerned over the music after picking up their kids from school and heard the offending sound and called police

When they knocked on the garage and front doors, the doors opened partially but then closed again..it was that moment, Newman fired fired 4 SHOTS into the garage striking Hill once in the head and killed him instantly

Hill did have a firearm in his pocket but it was unloaded and there was no evidence Hill had pointed his weapon at anyone.


Fair, next.

Really?
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BlackScythe0
06/01/18 5:44:34 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
wwinterj25 posted...
Full Throttle posted...
Hill was playing loud music that contained the "N-WORD" and his neighbors were concerned over the music after picking up their kids from school and heard the offending sound and called police

When they knocked on the garage and front doors, the doors opened partially but then closed again..it was that moment, Newman fired fired 4 SHOTS into the garage striking Hill once in the head and killed him instantly

Hill did have a firearm in his pocket but it was unloaded and there was no evidence Hill had pointed his weapon at anyone.


Fair, next.

Really?


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06/01/18 5:57:36 PM
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ASlaveObeys posted...
I'm sure this is the whole story.

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06/01/18 6:01:59 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
wwinterj25 posted...
Full Throttle posted...
Hill was playing loud music that contained the "N-WORD" and his neighbors were concerned over the music after picking up their kids from school and heard the offending sound and called police

When they knocked on the garage and front doors, the doors opened partially but then closed again..it was that moment, Newman fired fired 4 SHOTS into the garage striking Hill once in the head and killed him instantly

Hill did have a firearm in his pocket but it was unloaded and there was no evidence Hill had pointed his weapon at anyone.


Fair, next.

Really?


You act like this is the first time you've seen a random on the internet say it's cool to kill black people.

Hes a virgin with a micropenis, he always says fair next when a black person is shot
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wwinterj25
06/01/18 6:09:53 PM
#48:


MICHALECOLE posted...
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adjl
06/01/18 6:27:49 PM
#49:


ASlaveObeys posted...
I have to know where you guys get your info saying cops can't shoot through a closed door?
There was nothing in my training stating I can't.


Regardless of what's explicitly in training, it's a pretty terrible idea. Might as well close your eyes and start shooting.
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RoboXgp89
06/01/18 6:45:18 PM
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cops should be charged with negligent homicide
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