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cjsdowg
05/30/18 5:44:42 PM
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According to the testimony of Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, Trump let the NFL know he had it by the balls. This is a very winning, strong issue for me, Jones testified that Trump told him in a phone call. Tell everybody, you cant win this one. This one lifts me.

It wasnt just Jones, either. More WSJ:

I was totally supportive of [the players] until Trump made his statement, Stephen Ross, the Miami Dolphins owner and creator of programs advocating for social justice, said in his deposition. Noting that owners conversations with Mr. Trump were relayed during a league meeting, he said: I thought he changed the dialogue.


https://deadspin.com/report-nfl-owners-admit-donald-trump-squeezed-them-on-1826419766

So we have the President of the US , personally trying to stop black people from peacefully protesting.
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Musourenka
05/30/18 5:45:22 PM
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Here is reason #62 for impeachment.
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Fin_Dawg_004
05/30/18 5:46:39 PM
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DEAR Leader.
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prince_leo
05/30/18 5:50:05 PM
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seems like a clear case of an actual first amendment violation with an easy out for supporters to say that Trump was acting as Donald and not as POTUS so it's not
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CyricZ
05/30/18 5:51:41 PM
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Are these calls recorded?
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metralo
05/30/18 5:54:38 PM
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What a snowflake.
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Pillowpantz
05/30/18 5:55:00 PM
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And? The NFL is a private organization. If the players don't like the rules, they can quit.
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A_Good_Boy
05/30/18 5:55:37 PM
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Pillowpantz posted...
And? The NFL is a private organization. If the players don't like the rules, they can quit.

That's an absurd karma to post ratio.
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SuperShake666
05/30/18 5:55:43 PM
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https://imgur.com/dTZ5PA4
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Weezy_Tha_Don
05/30/18 5:56:24 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Pillowpantz posted...
And? The NFL is a private organization. If the players don't like the rules, they can quit.

That's an absurd karma to post ratio.


thats how you kno its a joke account
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__aCEr__
05/30/18 5:57:37 PM
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It's a tough call on who the less believable person is between Donald Trump and Jerry Jones.
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TheUsualSuspect
05/30/18 5:57:42 PM
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Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Pillowpantz posted...
And? The NFL is a private organization. If the players don't like the rules, they can quit.

That's an absurd karma to post ratio.


thats how you kno its a joke account

It's SirMixaLot, the fake lawyer who got caught posting his sister's paycheck as his own
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cjsdowg
05/30/18 6:01:09 PM
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TheUsualSuspect posted...

It's SirMixaLot, the fake lawyer who got caught posting his sister's paycheck as his own


I never got why he took the name of a famous black Rapper when he seems to not like black people.
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A_Good_Boy
05/30/18 6:07:22 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
TheUsualSuspect posted...

It's SirMixaLot, the fake lawyer who got caught posting his sister's paycheck as his own


I never got why he took the name of a famous black Rapper when he seems to not like black people.

Addendum: I don't know why he took that name when he doesn't even like big butts.
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soulunison2
05/30/18 6:08:41 PM
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TheUsualSuspect posted...
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Pillowpantz posted...
And? The NFL is a private organization. If the players don't like the rules, they can quit.

That's an absurd karma to post ratio.


thats how you kno its a joke account

It's SirMixaLot, the fake lawyer who got caught posting his sister's paycheck as his own


Oh the discount lawyer lmao
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ZMythos
05/30/18 6:45:57 PM
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DarthAragorn
05/30/18 6:49:32 PM
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__aCEr__ posted...
It's a tough call on who the less believable person is between Donald Trump and Jerry Jones.

Jerry "hey cameraman take some pictures of me kneeling" Jones
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BrapEnthusiast
05/30/18 6:54:50 PM
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any President is allowed to weigh in on an issue
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ZMythos
05/30/18 10:04:45 PM
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BrapEnthusiast posted...
any President is allowed to weigh in on an issue

But not if it's Obama
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Solar_Crimson
05/30/18 10:05:53 PM
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Pillowpantz posted...
And? The NFL is a private organization. If the players don't like the rules, they can quit.

What's your opinion on the Roseanne issue?
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dave_is_slick
05/30/18 10:11:08 PM
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Spooking posted...
The majority of football fans are conservatives and Trump is speaking for them. What football fan wants to see players disrespect our military like that? A: None.

I propose that "Shut up Discount DE" should be our default response everytime discount DE posts.
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Uncle Choad
05/30/18 10:12:50 PM
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Spooking posted...
The majority of football fans are conservatives and Trump is speaking for them. What football fan wants to see players disrespect our military like that? A: None.


I liked pre-Obamalegacy NFL a lot more than Obamalegacy NFL.
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ultimate reaver
05/30/18 10:14:23 PM
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There was a report about a closed door meeting even before that and you could tell that the NFL owners were incredibly spooked by bad attention from trump
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A_Good_Boy
05/30/18 10:16:10 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Spooking posted...
The majority of football fans are conservatives and Trump is speaking for them. What football fan wants to see players disrespect our military like that? A: None.

I propose that "Shut up Discount DE" should be our default response everytime discount DE posts.

I can agree with that.
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Pillowpantz
05/30/18 10:18:43 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Pillowpantz posted...
And? The NFL is a private organization. If the players don't like the rules, they can quit.

What's your opinion on the Roseanne issue?


ABC is well within their rights to cancel the show just as I'm well within my rights to not tune into their channel or pay for their content.
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ZMythos
05/30/18 10:19:42 PM
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Spooking posted...
The majority of football fans are conservatives and Trump is speaking for them

Factually incorrect.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-every-nfl-teams-fans-lean-politically/

https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/paine-enten-nfl-politics-4.png?w=575

Also, Trump speaks for nobody but himself. I'd wager that a majority of conservatives didn't give a shit about the kneeling.
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sobergermanguy
05/30/18 10:20:11 PM
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It's all about respect for the flag doe
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The Great Muta 22
05/30/18 10:26:16 PM
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Spooking posted...
I shouldn't have bothered to begin with.


FiveThirtyEight typically relies on its methodology and not opinion for its reports, however they do publish new stories that have a slight left-center bias in coverage.

slight left-center bias in coverage. = HORRIBLE LIBERAL YUCKY SHIT FAKE NEWS!!!!
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ZMythos
05/30/18 10:32:32 PM
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Spooking posted...

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fivethirtyeight/

I shouldn't have bothered to begin with.

Factual Reporting: HIGH

From your own link.

Get the fuck out of here.
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DrizztLink
05/30/18 10:35:47 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Pillowpantz posted...
And? The NFL is a private organization. If the players don't like the rules, they can quit.

What's your opinion on the Roseanne issue?

*Cognitive Dissonance Intensifies*
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SuperShake666
05/30/18 11:57:13 PM
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Spooking posted...
What football fan wants to see players disrespect our military like that? A: None.


You do realize they only do the national anthem because the military pays them, right? They wouldn't give a single fuck otherwise.
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Phantom_Nook
05/31/18 12:04:33 AM
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so I'm not a lawyer or anything, but I'm pretty sure this would count as violating the players 1st amendment rights.
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Uncle Choad
05/31/18 6:36:52 AM
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Spooking posted...
SuperShake666 posted...
Spooking posted...
What football fan wants to see players disrespect our military like that? A: None.


You do realize they only do the national anthem because the military pays them, right? They wouldn't give a single fuck otherwise.

What's wrong with showing national pride? Nothing, in my opinion.

These players are now given the option to stay in the back if they don't want to stand and respect our military. Two choices that give options to both parties. Fair outcome, me thinks.


A long time ago a few failed European states (out of many, until USA won WWII and created peace) did something similar, so we are 100% bound to repeat the mistakes that the Europeans made (before failing a couple times).
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UnfairRepresent
05/31/18 6:39:43 AM
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prince_leo posted...
seems like a clear case of an actual first amendment violation t

How?

Nfl is a private company and no one is arrested for protesting
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Serious Cat
05/31/18 7:54:17 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Nfl is a private company

No it's not. It's a trade association.
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DifferentialEquation
05/31/18 8:01:39 AM
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Lol. All the people upset about this were perfectly fine with Obama interfering in the Trayvon/Zimmerman investigation/trial.
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Were_Wyrm
05/31/18 8:14:55 AM
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__aCEr__ posted...
It's a tough call on who the less believable person is between Donald Trump and Jerry Jones.

This, and

cjsdowg posted...
I was totally supportive of [the players] until Trump made his statement, Stephen Ross, the Miami Dolphins owner and creator of programs advocating for social justice, said in his deposition.

So you're all for the players until Trump tells you he and his redneck supporters need a win? I sure hope he's totally supportive of keeping his team until I tell him I want to buy for $20, maybe he'll sell it.
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Serious Cat
05/31/18 8:22:31 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Lol. All the people upset about this were perfectly fine with Obama interfering in the Trayvon/Zimmerman investigation/trial.

Care to expound on how the head of the executive branch commenting on an investigation that falls under the jurisdiction of the executive branch is the same as the President strong-arming a private entity into curtailing free speech?
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catboy0_0
05/31/18 8:23:55 AM
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wow that's kinda dumb
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UnfairRepresent
05/31/18 8:39:34 AM
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Serious Cat posted...
the President strong-arming a private entity into curtailing free speech?

It's not tho
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DoubleDare
05/31/18 8:50:23 AM
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Can't wait for the players to start kneeling or another alternative thing to show their protest
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DarkProto05
05/31/18 9:04:39 AM
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The NFL is not a traditional company and players are not traditional employees.

Heck they aren't employees at all. They are business partners. The owners and players share league revenues and must agree on rules and CBA changes.

All business partners should have a say in kneeling.
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Serious Cat
05/31/18 9:08:35 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Serious Cat posted...
the President strong-arming a private entity into curtailing free speech?

It's not tho

Yes, it is, and under the guise of some nonsense about disrespecting our troops or something. (Apparently forgetting that freedom of speech was so important that it was one of the first things they put in the Constitution while the duty to stand for the national anthem to respect the troops is somewhere in the . . . Wait, it's not there at all.)
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marc55
05/31/18 9:23:05 AM
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Serious Cat posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Serious Cat posted...
the President strong-arming a private entity into curtailing free speech?

It's not tho

Yes, it is, and under the guise of some nonsense about disrespecting our troops or something. (Apparently forgetting that freedom of speech was so important that it was one of the first things they put in the Constitution while the duty to stand for the national anthem to respect the troops is somewhere in the . . . Wait, it's not there at all.)

and many veterans suppor the players.....
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darkjedilink
05/31/18 9:26:50 AM
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prince_leo posted...
seems like a clear case of an actual first amendment violation with an easy out for supporters to say that Trump was acting as Donald and not as POTUS so it's not

It's not a violation of the First Amendment because he can't actually do anything about it.
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DarthAragorn
05/31/18 9:44:47 AM
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marc55 posted...
Serious Cat posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Serious Cat posted...
the President strong-arming a private entity into curtailing free speech?

It's not tho

Yes, it is, and under the guise of some nonsense about disrespecting our troops or something. (Apparently forgetting that freedom of speech was so important that it was one of the first things they put in the Constitution while the duty to stand for the national anthem to respect the troops is somewhere in the . . . Wait, it's not there at all.)

and many veterans suppor the players.....

And many don't
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