Poll of the Day > most negative critic reviews of Avengers: Infinity war are stupid (SPOILERS)

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most of the negative reviews critizicm is ''that the movie cannot stand on it's own if you haven't seen any of the previous MCU films''

well that is the point of a cinematic universe...you cannot put so many characters at once and give them equal character develpment....that would be like criticizing a TV show episodes because you need to watch the previous ones to fully enjoy it.
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This is like saying Deathly Hallows pt 2 was a bad movie cause you had to watch the first 7 HP movies haha.

Also the problem lies with the way North American TV is mostly set up. People in the USA seem to hate long plot lines in TV, thats why most TV shows are very episodic.
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Ogurisama posted...

This is like saying Deathly Hallows pt 2 was a bad movie cause you had to watch the first 7 HP movies haha.

Also the problem lies with the way North American TV is mostly set up. People in the USA seem to hate long plot lines in TV, thats why most TV shows are very episodic.

exactly. I love how MCU brought true serialization to films all TV I used to watch before 2005 was Anime because I hated the episodic nature of most american tv shows. Im glad there are tons of decent serialized tv shows like breaking bad, game of thrones etc since then
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Dragon Ball Z was a huge hit because it was the first time for me, that I saw a show that doesn't wrap up the problem in 22 minutes and the heroes lose and get killed.
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yourDaddie posted...

most of the negative reviews critizicm is ''that the movie cannot stand on it's own if you haven't seen any of the previous MCU films''

Then it's a bad movie. If you need to do homework in order to enjoy a movie, it's a bad movie.

If being familiar with outside material enhances a movie, that's one thing, and that's perfectly good, but it should not be required. A good movie should be able to stand on its own.
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Plus they're not entirely right. At least in my case, I haven't seen the others besides the first Iron man, Hulk, and Thor movies and I still enjoyed it. I am aware of who everyone is from other media though (games, comics, etc.)
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Thanks for letting me know that I now have even less interest in it since I haven't watched any of the previous movies. I really don't feel like dropping ~$10 only to be completely lost.
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I saw Futility War at Alamo Drafthouse. Before the movie started they showed a recap of all the films leading up to this point, that way you could jump in and at least have some idea of who everyone was even if you'd missed all the previous movies.

I thought the movie sucked because they pulled a Back To The Future Part II at the end.

My mom only knew four or five of the characters shown in the movie and she still loved it. Personally I think it's a pretty straightforward action movie and while seeing the previous films certainly helps, you don't necessarily need to see them to still enjoy the movie.
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There are other movies you can watch that are sequels that can stand alone and be accessible to an audience that hasn't seen the prior installments. It is obviously a balance with any sequel. If you have to read a set of encyclopedias and watch 100+ hours of prior films to understand a movie scene-by-scene, that's very needy entertainment and it is fair to criticize that.

Golden Road posted...

Then it's a bad movie. If you need to do homework in order to enjoy a movie, it's a bad movie.

Wrong.
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captpackrat posted...

I saw Futility War at Alamo Drafthouse. Before the movie started they showed a recap of all the films leading up to this point, that way you could jump in and at least have some idea of who everyone was even if you'd missed all the previous movies.

I thought the movie sucked because they pulled a Back To The Future Part II at the end.

A recap or even a quick montage would actually be nice. That was a good idea.
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Biggest legit critique.

Not enough uncensored lesbian sex
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It's a cinematic universe...of which this is a culmination of events playing out for the past 9 years.

Basically...if they'd actually made the movie so that it didn't require watching any previous MCU movies...then they'd probably not have made the movie because it's whole POINT was to end the common thread story that had tied the previous movies together.

People who went in wanting a standalone movie at this point are clueless and probably just a little bit dense...I'm GLAD they ignored the needs of these people.
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DrYuya posted...

People who went in wanting a standalone movie at this point are clueless and probably just a little bit dense...I'm GLAD they ignored the needs of these people.

Here here!
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

DrYuya posted...

People who went in wanting a standalone movie at this point are clueless and probably just a little bit dense...I'm GLAD they ignored the needs of these people.

Here here!

Definitely. Literally Avengers 3 and they think it's stupid to have to have seen ither movies.
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Ogurisama posted...

This is like saying Deathly Hallows pt 2 was a bad movie cause you had to watch the first 7 HP movies haha.

Also the problem lies with the way North American TV is mostly set up. People in the USA seem to hate long plot lines in TV, thats why most TV shows are very episodic.

What?

Breaking Bad
The Sopranos
Handmaid's Tale
Westworld
Game of Thrones
The Leftovers
The Walking Dead
etc...

Shit, these days long plot lines are the most beloved of all TV shows the main reason they were uncommon back in the 90s or earlier was due to the fact that there was very few ways to get caught up. So if your friend tells you about a show and its in season 3 back in the 90s watching the first two seasons was a pain in the ass.
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SilentSeph posted...

My mom only knew four or five of the characters shown in the movie and she still loved it. Personally I think it's a pretty straightforward action movie and while seeing the previous films certainly helps, you don't necessarily need to see them to still enjoy the movie.

This. It helps and enhances, isn't required.
Blaqthourne posted...

Thanks for letting me know that I now have even less interest in it since I haven't watched any of the previous movies. I really don't feel like dropping ~$10 only to be completely lost.

lmao, why would you even care in the first place having not seen any of them? This is the kind of person that would write a negative review I feel.

"I went into a sequel movie and I didn't fully understand it, what the hell?!"
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DrYuya posted...

It's a cinematic universe...of which this is a culmination of events playing out for the past 9 years.

Basically...if they'd actually made the movie so that it didn't require watching any previous MCU movies...then they'd probably not have made the movie because it's whole POINT was to end the common thread story that had tied the previous movies together.

People who went in wanting a standalone movie at this point are clueless and probably just a little bit dense...I'm GLAD they ignored the needs of these people.

You don't get it. A lot of people don't get it. It's not that the movies necessarily shouldn't be interconnected. It's that, aside from being interconnected, that each movie should also be able to stand alone on its own merits as well. Someone who's watched the entire MCU series may get even more out of it than someone who's never seen any previous MCU movies, but each movie should still be able to stand on its own, and be a fullfilling experience to everyone. There's no reason a movie series cannot both be a good movie by itself, and part of a series of movies. Those are not mutually exclusive options.

A movie that cannot stand on its own as a good movie isn't a good movie.
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Golden Road posted...

A movie that cannot stand on its own as a good movie isn't a good movie.

Still wrong.
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I'm pretty sure Infinity War is still easy to follow even if you haven't seen the previous movies beforehand.
Some people just want to nitpick for little reason.

I mean, if you're interested in Infinity War, why not consider watching the previous movies?
Pretty much all of them are enjoyable.
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DrYuya posted...

It's a cinematic universe...of which this is a culmination of events playing out for the past 9 years.

Basically...if they'd actually made the movie so that it didn't require watching any previous MCU movies...then they'd probably not have made the movie because it's whole POINT was to end the common thread story that had tied the previous movies together.

People who went in wanting a standalone movie at this point are clueless and probably just a little bit dense...I'm GLAD they ignored the needs of these people.

This is pretty much the worst response to criticism. "Hey, it's SUPPOSED to be shitty!"

Monopoman posted...

Ogurisama posted...

This is like saying Deathly Hallows pt 2 was a bad movie cause you had to watch the first 7 HP movies haha.

Also the problem lies with the way North American TV is mostly set up. People in the USA seem to hate long plot lines in TV, thats why most TV shows are very episodic.

What?

Breaking Bad
The Sopranos
Handmaid's Tale
Westworld
Game of Thrones
The Leftovers
The Walking Dead
etc...

Shit, these days long plot lines are the most beloved of all TV shows the main reason they were uncommon back in the 90s or earlier was due to the fact that there was very few ways to get caught up. So if your friend tells you about a show and its in season 3 back in the 90s watching the first two seasons was a pain in the ass.

Even with TV shows, that's a problem with many of them, that the longer they go on the more inaccessible they tend to be for new entrants. The idea of art is to be able to connect with your audience. That is the essence of any criticism of movies - that it fails to connect with its audience. I think only a fanboy who whacks off to comic books all day is the one that doesn't understand legit criticism of film. They think the only valid form of criticism is if there is some error or difference from the way the comic books presented something. Which to someone who understands film, is not a problem at all. In fact I'd expect there to be differences in a different medium.

In the end it comes down to preference, some people will like it and some people won't. I loved infinity war, so far my second favorite marvel movie, my first is Deadpool 2.

Although, I still can't understand the love Black Panther gets. I honestly couldn't get into that movie.
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