Current Events > This 19 y/o Girl was SHOT in the HEAD by a BORDER PATROL AGENT in Texas!!

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19 y/o Claudia Patricia Gomez Gonzalez was killed instantly after she was shot in the HEAD by a US Border Patrol Agent in Rio Bravo, Texas after an unidentified agent came acros her and 3 others whom he suspected entered the country illegally.

As he tried to take them into custody, he first said they charged at him with "blunt objects" and he fired one shot, hitting Claudia and killing her.

The 7 minute video filmed directly after the shot was fired showed agents giving her CPR as the footage was captured by witness Maria Martinez

She can be heard yelling "Why did you shoot the girl? You killed her!"

Her aunt, Dominga Vincente said that her niece had graduated as a forensic accountant but couldn't find a job in her country and was hoping to escape a life of poverty in Guatemala and set up a new life in the US

Guatemalan officials confirmed she entered illegally but added the rights of migrants should be respected as they lament any act of violence and excessive use of force by a border patrol agent.

The request dial back hostile rhetoric against migrants after President Trump called MS-13 gang members "animals"

However, the US Customs and Border Protection has now CHANGED their STORY and said that they only "rushed" at them but did not carry any blunt objects as it now raises question if the story given by the agent was truthful or not as there will now be an investigation

Do you believe the border patrol agents story?

Claudia - Deceased

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/26/03/4CA2C40D00000578-5768119-image-m-5_1527301047594.jpg

Dominga - Aunt

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/26/03/4CA24D1C00000578-5768119-image-a-15_1527301776455.jpg
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Why wouldn't I? They're doing their job to protect my country.
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We should ban border patrol agents. Those friendly drug cartels won't do anything bad.

Reminder: This is where TC lives:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/d0bd83b9-c1df-3cbe-ae22-b8c49aa176fb/canada-granting-refugee.html
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Pillowpantz posted...

Why wouldn't I? They're doing their job to protect my country.

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I don't believe their story. Why film after the fact? Why did it need to resort to shooting them in the head or firing a shot at all?

There are other ways of incapacitating people. The fact that they changed their story about the blunt objects, tells me they were willing to lie to make it look like they were completely justified. Even then, someone with a blunt object charging a patrol agent doesn't need a lethal response.

hmmm
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Someone is going the post the sound clip and I'm not going to judge.
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CommonStar posted...

Why film after the fact? Why did it need to resort to shooting them in the head or firing a shot at all?

The person who filmed it wasn't part of border control, and in some ways makes it seem inconclusive.
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They charged at him.

I fucking doubt that.
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Disgusting
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So they attacked the agent with weapons and he went by protocol and shot them? Why does this even get an write up?
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I will never understand why policemen don't shoot unarmed (guns) people in the knees. That will end ANY situation in a second.
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southcoast09 posted...

So they attacked the agent with weapons and he went by protocol and shot them? Why does this even get an write up?

Just gives people something to bitch about
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southcoast09 posted...

So they attacked the agent with weapons and he went by protocol and shot them? Why does this even get an write up?

Nope.
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CommonStar posted...

Even then, someone with a blunt object charging a patrol agent doesn't need a lethal response.

Yeah, it is not like you can do grave bodily harm with clubs and bats or anything.
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HagenEx posted...

I will never understand why policemen don't shoot unarmed (guns) people in the knees. That will end ANY situation in a second.

Because life isn't a movie. The first rule for firearms is that you will kill/destroy whatever you are aiming at. You aim for center mass (where you're most likely to hit). A knee/arm/anywhere that isn't the body is a small target. Plus they'd probably bleed out anyway due to how many veins are in your limbs.
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southcoast09 posted...

So they attacked the agent with weapons and he went by protocol and shot them? Why does this even get an write up?

What weapons?
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gmanthebest posted...

HagenEx posted...

I will never understand why policemen don't shoot unarmed (guns) people in the knees. That will end ANY situation in a second.

Because life isn't a movie. The first rule for firearms is that you will kill/destroy whatever you are aiming at. You aim for center mass (where you're most likely to hit). A knee/arm/anywhere that isn't the body is a small target. Plus they'd probably bleed out anyway due to how many veins are in your limbs.

Ive heard of that, but I find it weird she was shot in the head rather than the chest. I dunno if he was in the wrong but still.
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PerseusRad posted...

Ive heard of that, but I find it weird she was shot in the head rather than the chest. I dunno if he was in the wrong but still.

Depending on the range when a bullet is fired it actually raises a bit.
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PerseusRad posted...

gmanthebest posted...

HagenEx posted...

I will never understand why policemen don't shoot unarmed (guns) people in the knees. That will end ANY situation in a second.

Because life isn't a movie. The first rule for firearms is that you will kill/destroy whatever you are aiming at. You aim for center mass (where you're most likely to hit). A knee/arm/anywhere that isn't the body is a small target. Plus they'd probably bleed out anyway due to how many veins are in your limbs.

Ive heard of that, but I find it weird she was shot in the head rather than the chest. I dunno if he was in the wrong but still.

There's still a lot of factors for shooting. How shaky your hand is, how quick you have to aim, how your target moves, and a shit ton of other things.
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Full Throttle posted...

Guatemalan officials confirmed she entered illegally

Mexico has an "Open Fire" policy on its southern borders, why can't we?
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DirkDiggles posted...

Full Throttle posted...

Guatemalan officials confirmed she entered illegally

Mexico has an "Open Fire" policy on its southern borders, why can't we?

holy shit you people are sociopathic.

But you know what, its going to be great when this country is browner than ever, and more prosperous than ever.

Rural poors won't get to be a part of a better America.

CommonStar posted...

I don't believe their story. Why film after the fact? Why did it need to resort to shooting them in the head or firing a shot at all?

There are other ways of incapacitating people. The fact that they changed their story about the blunt objects, tells me they were willing to lie to make it look like they were completely justified. Even then, someone with a blunt object charging a patrol agent doesn't need a lethal response.

The story change makes the story suspect.

However, your last line is stupid. If I charged you with a bat, what do you think my intentions are?

If you charged me with a weapon, my intentions are that you will either kill me or do me great bodily that I may never come back from.

Im going to shoot you.
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PerseusRad posted...

gmanthebest posted...

HagenEx posted...

I will never understand why policemen don't shoot unarmed (guns) people in the knees. That will end ANY situation in a second.

Because life isn't a movie. The first rule for firearms is that you will kill/destroy whatever you are aiming at. You aim for center mass (where you're most likely to hit). A knee/arm/anywhere that isn't the body is a small target. Plus they'd probably bleed out anyway due to how many veins are in your limbs.

Ive heard of that, but I find it weird she was shot in the head rather than the chest. I dunno if he was in the wrong but still.

He could have been rattled and wasnt the best of shot. I dont know. Id like to see his past and get the full report on the deal. Its concerning if they changed their story.
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killed instantly after she was shot in the HEAD

showed agents giving her CPR

Not the smartest peanuts in the turd, are they...
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DiegoSanchez206 posted...

CommonStar posted...

I don't believe their story. Why film after the fact? Why did it need to resort to shooting them in the head or firing a shot at all?

There are other ways of incapacitating people. The fact that they changed their story about the blunt objects, tells me they were willing to lie to make it look like they were completely justified. Even then, someone with a blunt object charging a patrol agent doesn't need a lethal response.

The story change makes the story suspect.

However, your last line is stupid. If I charged you with a bat, what do you think my intentions are?

If you charged me with a weapon, my intentions are that you will either kill me or do me great bodily that I may never come back from.

Im going to shoot you.

I'm just saying there are other non-lethal ways to incapacitate someone charging at you with a blunt object. Shoot to kill is an extreme response.

I'd trust a border patrol agents as far as I could throw them.

A little Mexican chick running to get across the border is "charging" these disgusting thugs? Right.
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Asherlee10 posted...

I'm pretty suspicious of the Agent's story, hopefully there is more evidence that comes forward.

I don't really understand border patrol in Texas. The one checkpoint I've frequently encountered is actually a god 30-40 miles inside of Texas you HAVE to go through it even when you don't leave the U.S.

I thought it was bullshit that just because I was in South Padre (Texas), I still had to go through border patrol to get back up to Austin.

That's 99% of border patrol stations. They also have a notoriously bad rating at getting their job done, mainly serving to harass legal citizens with illegal search and seizures. If there is any job in the US that needs wiped out completely it's border patrol. We would have a better setup if there were just immigration stations at the border with customs that could check for drugs and the whole nine without any of this other useless bullshit. Being a border patrol agent is the sociopathic cop's wet dream and we don't need that shit in this country, it's bad enough as it is.
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Charging a country's border is basically an act of war. #MAGA
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HagenEx posted...

I will never understand why policemen don't shoot unarmed (guns) people in the knees. That will end ANY situation in a second.

Nice to know you've never shot at a target let alone a moving target. Life isn't movies and aiming is harder than it looks even for trained professionals.
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So a warning shot at the ground wouldnt have quelled things?
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Full Throttle posted...

The 7 minute video filmed directly after the shot was fired showed agents giving her CPR as the footage was captured by witness Maria Martinez

Oh yeah, I'm sure CPR is going to revive someone from a headshot.
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HagenEx posted...

I will never understand why policemen don't shoot unarmed (guns) people in the knees. That will end ANY situation in a second.

Can't get sued if your victim's dead.
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Asherlee10 posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I'm pretty suspicious of the Agent's story, hopefully there is more evidence that comes forward.

I don't really understand border patrol in Texas. The one checkpoint I've frequently encountered is actually a god 30-40 miles inside of Texas you HAVE to go through it even when you don't leave the U.S.

I thought it was bullshit that just because I was in South Padre (Texas), I still had to go through border patrol to get back up to Austin.

That's 99% of border patrol stations. They also have a notoriously bad rating at getting their job done, mainly serving to harass legal citizens with illegal search and seizures. If there is any job in the US that needs wiped out completely it's border patrol. We would have a better setup if there were just immigration stations at the border with customs that could check for drugs and the whole nine without any of this other useless bullshit. Being a border patrol agent is the sociopathic cop's wet dream and we don't need that shit in this country, it's bad enough as it is.

I agree, 100%.

I've had my vehicle searched many times at those stops. It makes me feel like I'm not a U.S. citizen. They also ask really stupid questions like, "Why are you driving a truck?" "What is the luggage for?"

They have no right to search your vehicle without a warrant. Don't let them.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I'm pretty suspicious of the Agent's story, hopefully there is more evidence that comes forward.

I don't really understand border patrol in Texas. The one checkpoint I've frequently encountered is actually a god 30-40 miles inside of Texas you HAVE to go through it even when you don't leave the U.S.

I thought it was bullshit that just because I was in South Padre (Texas), I still had to go through border patrol to get back up to Austin.

That's 99% of border patrol stations. They also have a notoriously bad rating at getting their job done, mainly serving to harass legal citizens with illegal search and seizures. If there is any job in the US that needs wiped out completely it's border patrol. We would have a better setup if there were just immigration stations at the border with customs that could check for drugs and the whole nine without any of this other useless bullshit. Being a border patrol agent is the sociopathic cop's wet dream and we don't need that shit in this country, it's bad enough as it is.

I agree, 100%.

I've had my vehicle searched many times at those stops. It makes me feel like I'm not a U.S. citizen. They also ask really stupid questions like, "Why are you driving a truck?" "What is the luggage for?"

They have no right to search your vehicle without a warrant. Don't let them.

They don't need warrants for vehicle searches as long as they have probably cause.

@ThatMuttGuy please get duckbear to go away again thanks
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lol let me see if I can't find a bug in the backyard

cuttin_in_farm posted...

So a warning shot at the ground wouldnt have quelled things?

Even more dangerous. Ricochet, hit someone completely unrelated. Plus, first rule of gun safety: If you're going to use a gun, you better be prepared to kill.
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cuttin_in_farm posted...

So a warning shot at the ground wouldnt have quelled things?

Take a fucking firearm safety course, Christ. Even if you don't want to carry, get a ccw or orange card, stop being to tremendously ignorant.
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Why didn't he simply aim at their feet and make them dance
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CommonStar posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I'm pretty suspicious of the Agent's story, hopefully there is more evidence that comes forward.

I don't really understand border patrol in Texas. The one checkpoint I've frequently encountered is actually a god 30-40 miles inside of Texas you HAVE to go through it even when you don't leave the U.S.

I thought it was bullshit that just because I was in South Padre (Texas), I still had to go through border patrol to get back up to Austin.

That's 99% of border patrol stations. They also have a notoriously bad rating at getting their job done, mainly serving to harass legal citizens with illegal search and seizures. If there is any job in the US that needs wiped out completely it's border patrol. We would have a better setup if there were just immigration stations at the border with customs that could check for drugs and the whole nine without any of this other useless bullshit. Being a border patrol agent is the sociopathic cop's wet dream and we don't need that shit in this country, it's bad enough as it is.

I agree, 100%.

I've had my vehicle searched many times at those stops. It makes me feel like I'm not a U.S. citizen. They also ask really stupid questions like, "Why are you driving a truck?" "What is the luggage for?"

They have no right to search your vehicle without a warrant. Don't let them.

They don't need warrants for vehicle searches as long as they have probably cause.

They absolutely never have probable cause. Unless you are just smoking a joint in front of them or can't say you are a US citizen.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

CommonStar posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I'm pretty suspicious of the Agent's story, hopefully there is more evidence that comes forward.

I don't really understand border patrol in Texas. The one checkpoint I've frequently encountered is actually a god 30-40 miles inside of Texas you HAVE to go through it even when you don't leave the U.S.

I thought it was bullshit that just because I was in South Padre (Texas), I still had to go through border patrol to get back up to Austin.

That's 99% of border patrol stations. They also have a notoriously bad rating at getting their job done, mainly serving to harass legal citizens with illegal search and seizures. If there is any job in the US that needs wiped out completely it's border patrol. We would have a better setup if there were just immigration stations at the border with customs that could check for drugs and the whole nine without any of this other useless bullshit. Being a border patrol agent is the sociopathic cop's wet dream and we don't need that shit in this country, it's bad enough as it is.

I agree, 100%.

I've had my vehicle searched many times at those stops. It makes me feel like I'm not a U.S. citizen. They also ask really stupid questions like, "Why are you driving a truck?" "What is the luggage for?"

They have no right to search your vehicle without a warrant. Don't let them.

They don't need warrants for vehicle searches as long as they have probably cause.

They absolutely never have probable cause. Unless you are just smoking a joint in front of them or can't say you are a US citizen.

Sure...but the laws are more lenient for vehicle searches in regards to amendment 4 because they don't believe you have the same amount of privacy in your vehicle as compared to your home.

P4wn4g3 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I'm pretty suspicious of the Agent's story, hopefully there is more evidence that comes forward.

I don't really understand border patrol in Texas. The one checkpoint I've frequently encountered is actually a god 30-40 miles inside of Texas you HAVE to go through it even when you don't leave the U.S.

I thought it was bullshit that just because I was in South Padre (Texas), I still had to go through border patrol to get back up to Austin.

That's 99% of border patrol stations. They also have a notoriously bad rating at getting their job done, mainly serving to harass legal citizens with illegal search and seizures. If there is any job in the US that needs wiped out completely it's border patrol. We would have a better setup if there were just immigration stations at the border with customs that could check for drugs and the whole nine without any of this other useless bullshit. Being a border patrol agent is the sociopathic cop's wet dream and we don't need that shit in this country, it's bad enough as it is.

I agree, 100%.

I've had my vehicle searched many times at those stops. It makes me feel like I'm not a U.S. citizen. They also ask really stupid questions like, "Why are you driving a truck?" "What is the luggage for?"

They have no right to search your vehicle without a warrant. Don't let them.

Sure they don't have the right, but they'll always find a way and will make your day hell if you don't let them. Unless you're rich and can hire an attorney for petty things like that, no sense in fighting it.
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ChainedRedone posted...

southcoast09 posted...

So they attacked the agent with weapons and he went by protocol and shot them? Why does this even get an write up?

What weapons?

It says in the second paragraph (of post #1) that they charged at him with blunt objects.
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voldothegr8 posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I'm pretty suspicious of the Agent's story, hopefully there is more evidence that comes forward.

I don't really understand border patrol in Texas. The one checkpoint I've frequently encountered is actually a god 30-40 miles inside of Texas you HAVE to go through it even when you don't leave the U.S.

I thought it was bullshit that just because I was in South Padre (Texas), I still had to go through border patrol to get back up to Austin.

That's 99% of border patrol stations. They also have a notoriously bad rating at getting their job done, mainly serving to harass legal citizens with illegal search and seizures. If there is any job in the US that needs wiped out completely it's border patrol. We would have a better setup if there were just immigration stations at the border with customs that could check for drugs and the whole nine without any of this other useless bullshit. Being a border patrol agent is the sociopathic cop's wet dream and we don't need that shit in this country, it's bad enough as it is.

I agree, 100%.

I've had my vehicle searched many times at those stops. It makes me feel like I'm not a U.S. citizen. They also ask really stupid questions like, "Why are you driving a truck?" "What is the luggage for?"

They have no right to search your vehicle without a warrant. Don't let them.

Sure they don't have the right, but they'll always find a way and will make your day hell if you don't let them. Unless you're rich and can hire an attorney for petty things like that, no sense in fighting it.

They would stack up criminal charges on their end if they kept pushing it. If they give you trouble talk to their supervisor. If that guy gives you trouble you can always take it to court, though I've never seen them push things at that point.
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@Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

cuttin_in_farm posted...

So a warning shot at the ground wouldnt have quelled things?

Take a fucking firearm safety course, Christ. Even if you don't want to carry, get a ccw or orange card, stop being to tremendously ignorant.

Why the fuck are you so aggressive, bro?

@Anarchy_Juiblex

Get the fuck in here and answer.

You had two ways to do it:

gmanthebest posted...

Even more dangerous. Ricochet, hit someone completely unrelated. Plus, first rule of gun safety: If you're going to use a gun, you better be prepared to kill.

Inform.

eston posted...

Why didn't he simply aim at their feet and make them dance

Joke.

The former tells me why it doesnt work. The second makes me laugh.

Yours was just an overly eager attempt to pump out your chest and assert you amazing knowledge of firearms. As if you dont know what a question mark means.
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