Poll of the Day > Donald Trump cancels North Korea summit

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https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/24/613962300/north-korea-threatens-to-scuttle-summit-saying-it-wont-beg-the-u-s-for-dialogue

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44242558

I doubt many are shocked about this.

Says they're being hostile, brings up our arsenal in next statement
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And somehow people will find a way to demonize Trump instead of placing blame on NK for unsurprisingly going back on their word and threatening nuclear war with us. He did the right thing by canceling the summit

I thought NK already did that? How is this news?
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So much for that Nobel Peace Prize...
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The best negotiator.

Yeah Obama would've just been like, "yes mr. Kim, whatever you want, sir! You guys can have all the nukes you want. Just please don't threaten us anymore! It's very scary!"

And ohhhja with the whataboutism this time. Right on time buddy!

Andromicus posted...

Says they're being hostile

And yet, they claim to have dismantled their nuclear testing site hours before Trump scuttled the meeting:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/world/asia/north-korea-shuts-nuclear-test-site.html
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OhhhJa posted...

Yeah Obama would've just been like, "yes mr. Kim, whatever you want, sir! You guys can have all the nukes you want. Just please don't threaten us anymore! It's very scary!"

Obama being a lousy president does not make Trump a good president by default.

Man, Trump and his supporters are absolute morons.
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knivesX2004 posted...

And ohhhja with the whataboutism this time. Right on time buddy!

I don't need to whatabout, the favorite new buzzword of the left. Trump did the right thing. And Obama would've given a bj to kim to make it happen. But you somehow criticize Trump here for canceling when the whole point was NK complete denuclearization and they went back on their word on that as well as following up with a threat of nuclear war. Don't see why you think we should sit and negotiate with them when it's obvious they are just interested in a sideshow

OhhhJa posted...

I don't need to whatabout, the favorite new buzzword of the left. Trump did the right thing. And Obama would've given a bj to kim to make it happen.

>> Immediately whataboutisms to Obama.

OhhhJa posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

And ohhhja with the whataboutism this time. Right on time buddy!

And Obama would've given a bj to kim to make it happen

Lol. Now I know to never take anything you say seriously. Silly.

You guys are mad because I'm right. Accuse me of whataboutism. Won't acknowledge that Trump is right to cancel the summit. That's avoiding my actual point. Need a buzzword for doing that

North Korea did literally everything Trump wanted: blew up their test sights, started negotiating peace with South Korea, everything.

Then Trump has to stab them in the back because "they were mean" followed by a statement where he threatens them. What a piece of shit.

knivesX2004 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

I don't need to whatabout, the favorite new buzzword of the left. Trump did the right thing. And Obama would've given a bj to kim to make it happen.

>> Immediately whataboutisms to Obama.

Did that intentionally by the way just to make you more upset

Do you really think you're right? You really think President Obama would give oral sex to Kim Jung Un? Really?
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...

North Korea did literally everything Trump wanted: blew up their test sights, started negotiating peace with South Korea, everything.

Then Trump has to stab them in the back because "they were mean" followed by a statement where he threatens them. What a piece of shit.

Lol way to be completely incorrect

Jen0125 posted...

Do you really think you're right? You really think President Obama would give oral sex to Kim Jung Un? Really?

Well is our president really a sentient cheese flavored corn snack, really?
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OhhhJa posted...

You guys are mad because I'm right.

I'm mad because you're Alt-Right ;)

Andromicus posted...

Jen0125 posted...

Do you really think you're right? You really think President Obama would give oral sex to Kim Jung Un? Really?

Well is our president really a sentient cheese flavored corn snack, really?

Have I ever said he was?
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OhhhJa posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

And ohhhja with the whataboutism this time. Right on time buddy!

I don't need to whatabout, the favorite new buzzword of the left. Trump did the right thing. And Obama would've given a bj to kim to make it happen. But you somehow criticize Trump here for canceling when the whole point was NK complete denuclearization and they went back on their word on that as well as following up with a threat of nuclear war. Don't see why you think we should sit and negotiate with them when it's obvious they are just interested in a sideshow

First, you don't let your anger get the best of you and you definitely don't let a little deserved hostility piss you off to cancel the talks. Yes deserved hostility, because that dumbass John Bolton said we were gonna fuckin kill him. Do you not remember that? That they were gonna do the libya model for the north korea deal? Yeah, that's why the dude was super pissed and hostile going into the meeting. Now instead of subverting his reasonable anger, trump just yells right back and pisses him off before cancelling the summit. Not to mention that dumbass trump is the one who hired John Bolton. So yeah, trump is a 100% to blame and I now consider him the worst president. Well minus the dude who's corruption caused the great depression. So definitely in the top 5 of worst presidents ever. Dude has done nothing but get the entire country pissed off at him. Hell i don;t even know how he has any supporters at all, especially after botching this up. Hell I am pissed I voted this fucker in office. Everyone should be pisseed, we need to really do over the entire election and get someone besides him or hillary in office.
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knivesX2004 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

You guys are mad because I'm right.

I'm mad because you're Alt-Right ;)

You sure like your buzzwords even when applied incorrectly. Hell, I just badmouthed Richard Spencer in another topic today that you posted in too so now you just sound kinda dumb

yutterh posted...

Everyone should be pisseed, we need to really do over the entire election and get someone besides him or hillary in office.

I thought everyone, left/right/center, agreed we don't need to rehash the election. Vote in 2018 and 2020. The past is past.

In all honesty

Rocket Man is acting crazy
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OhhhJa posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

You guys are mad because I'm right.

I'm mad because you're Alt-Right ;)

You sure like your buzzwords even when applied incorrectly. Hell, I just badmouthed Richard Spencer in another topic today that you posted in too so now you just sound kinda dumb

Isn't that the topic where you quoted me, said 'lol', and then ignored the post entirely?
Kinda like what you do every time you don't have a response? Because I ignore those.
OhhhJa posted...

Lol way to be completely incorrect

SushiSquid posted...

yutterh posted...

Everyone should be pisseed, we need to really do over the entire election and get someone besides him or hillary in office.

I thought everyone, left/right/center, agreed we don't need to rehash the election. Vote in 2018 and 2020. The past is past.

Well no shit hahahahaha I wasn't being literal my dude. hahahahah but out of all the stuff I said, I don't think I expected that sentence to be a problem hahahaha i guess expect the unexpected lol
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yutterh posted...

OhhhJa posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

And ohhhja with the whataboutism this time. Right on time buddy!

I don't need to whatabout, the favorite new buzzword of the left. Trump did the right thing. And Obama would've given a bj to kim to make it happen. But you somehow criticize Trump here for canceling when the whole point was NK complete denuclearization and they went back on their word on that as well as following up with a threat of nuclear war. Don't see why you think we should sit and negotiate with them when it's obvious they are just interested in a sideshow

First, you don't let your anger get the best of you and you definitely don't let a little deserved hostility piss you off to cancel the talks. Yes deserved hostility, because that dumbass John Bolton said we were gonna fuckin kill him. Do you not remember that? That they were gonna do the libya model for the north korea deal? Yeah, that's why the dude was super pissed and hostile going into the meeting. Now instead of subverting his reasonable anger, trump just yells right back and pisses him off before cancelling the summit. Not to mention that dumbass trump is the one who hired John Bolton. So yeah, trump is a 100% to blame and I now consider him the worst president. Well minus the dude who's corruption caused the great depression. So definitely in the top 5 of worst presidents ever. Dude has done nothing but get the entire country pissed off at him. Hell i don;t even know how he has any supporters at all, especially after botching this up. Hell I am pissed I voted this fucker in office. Everyone should be pisseed, we need to really do over the entire election and get someone besides him or hillary in office.

So your hero Kim is in the right to threaten us with nuclear war and go back on his word to denuclearize because of some remark by a pissant hire that Trump made? And Trump is supposed to apologize after he threatened us with nuclear war. Sorry dude but I have to disagree.

It's amazing who the left will defend just because they hate Trump. MS-13, Kim Jung Un, Assad... any scumbag you can think of.

knivesX2004 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

You guys are mad because I'm right.

I'm mad because you're Alt-Right ;)

You sure like your buzzwords even when applied incorrectly. Hell, I just badmouthed Richard Spencer in another topic today that you posted in too so now you just sound kinda dumb

Isn't that the topic where you quoted me, said 'lol', and then ignored the post entirely?
Kinda like what you do every time you don't have a response? Because I ignore those.
OhhhJa posted...

Lol way to be completely incorrect

I was laughing because I thought what you said was funny you ignoramus. It was probably the only time you haven't said something completely obnoxious so congrats bud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gSQg1i_q2g" data-time="
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OhhhJa posted...

Yeah Obama would've just been like, "yes mr. Kim, whatever you want, sir! You guys can have all the nukes you want. Just please don't threaten us anymore! It's very scary!"

at least it would have been well-spoken.

Im not on the FUCK TRUMP AT ALL COSTS train yet, but the dude writes like an eight year old.
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OhhhJa posted...

yutterh posted...

OhhhJa posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

And ohhhja with the whataboutism this time. Right on time buddy!

I don't need to whatabout, the favorite new buzzword of the left. Trump did the right thing. And Obama would've given a bj to kim to make it happen. But you somehow criticize Trump here for canceling when the whole point was NK complete denuclearization and they went back on their word on that as well as following up with a threat of nuclear war. Don't see why you think we should sit and negotiate with them when it's obvious they are just interested in a sideshow

First, you don't let your anger get the best of you and you definitely don't let a little deserved hostility piss you off to cancel the talks. Yes deserved hostility, because that dumbass John Bolton said we were gonna fuckin kill him. Do you not remember that? That they were gonna do the libya model for the north korea deal? Yeah, that's why the dude was super pissed and hostile going into the meeting. Now instead of subverting his reasonable anger, trump just yells right back and pisses him off before cancelling the summit. Not to mention that dumbass trump is the one who hired John Bolton. So yeah, trump is a 100% to blame and I now consider him the worst president. Well minus the dude who's corruption caused the great depression. So definitely in the top 5 of worst presidents ever. Dude has done nothing but get the entire country pissed off at him. Hell i don;t even know how he has any supporters at all, especially after botching this up. Hell I am pissed I voted this fucker in office. Everyone should be pisseed, we need to really do over the entire election and get someone besides him or hillary in office.

So your hero Kim is in the right to threaten us with nuclear war and go back on his word to denuclearize because of some remark by a pissant hire that Trump made? And Trump is supposed to apologize after he threatened us with nuclear war. Sorry dude but I have to disagree.

It's amazing who the left will defend just because they hate Trump. MS-13, Kim Jung Un, Assad... any scumbag you can think of.

Where the fuck did you get that he was my fuckin hero? Fuck you troll.
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yutterh posted...

OhhhJa posted...

yutterh posted...

OhhhJa posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

And ohhhja with the whataboutism this time. Right on time buddy!

I don't need to whatabout, the favorite new buzzword of the left. Trump did the right thing. And Obama would've given a bj to kim to make it happen. But you somehow criticize Trump here for canceling when the whole point was NK complete denuclearization and they went back on their word on that as well as following up with a threat of nuclear war. Don't see why you think we should sit and negotiate with them when it's obvious they are just interested in a sideshow

First, you don't let your anger get the best of you and you definitely don't let a little deserved hostility piss you off to cancel the talks. Yes deserved hostility, because that dumbass John Bolton said we were gonna fuckin kill him. Do you not remember that? That they were gonna do the libya model for the north korea deal? Yeah, that's why the dude was super pissed and hostile going into the meeting. Now instead of subverting his reasonable anger, trump just yells right back and pisses him off before cancelling the summit. Not to mention that dumbass trump is the one who hired John Bolton. So yeah, trump is a 100% to blame and I now consider him the worst president. Well minus the dude who's corruption caused the great depression. So definitely in the top 5 of worst presidents ever. Dude has done nothing but get the entire country pissed off at him. Hell i don;t even know how he has any supporters at all, especially after botching this up. Hell I am pissed I voted this fucker in office. Everyone should be pisseed, we need to really do over the entire election and get someone besides him or hillary in office.

So your hero Kim is in the right to threaten us with nuclear war and go back on his word to denuclearize because of some remark by a pissant hire that Trump made? And Trump is supposed to apologize after he threatened us with nuclear war. Sorry dude but I have to disagree.

It's amazing who the left will defend just because they hate Trump. MS-13, Kim Jung Un, Assad... any scumbag you can think of.

Where the fuck did you get that he was my fuckin hero? Fuck you troll.

Whoa whoa calm down there psycho

First Trump gives Iran nukes and now this? Is the actively trying to start a nuclear war?
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OhhhJa posted...

You guys are mad because I'm right. Accuse me of whataboutism. Won't acknowledge that Trump is right to cancel the summit. That's avoiding my actual point. Need a buzzword for doing that

It's not a buzzword it's a type of logical fallacy. Also known as tu quoque you would know that if you were half as smart as you want people to think you are.
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TES_Nut posted...

OhhhJa posted...

You guys are mad because I'm right. Accuse me of whataboutism. Won't acknowledge that Trump is right to cancel the summit. That's avoiding my actual point. Need a buzzword for doing that

It's not a buzzword it's a type of logical fallacy. Also known as tu quoque you would know that if you were half as smart as you want people to think you are.

This might matter if I was using it as the basis for my argument but since I was just saying it to add insult to injury, it doesn't. But thanks for the token of unnecessary wisdom, Socrates.

OhhhJa posted...

It was probably the only time you haven't said something completely obnoxious so congrats bud

Thanks!

OhhhJa posts and then I...

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trentpac posted...

OhhhJa posts and then I...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUB-wjXUREE" data-time="

You probably look more like Steve Buscemi laughing

OhhhJa posted...

Yeah Obama would've just been like, "yes mr. Kim, whatever you want, sir! You guys can have all the nukes you want. Just please don't threaten us anymore! It's very scary!"

Don't forget to work Trumps balls, ok?
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Not sure what North Korea's angle is, suddenly being super open to being peaceful and claiming they are open to negotiations, than suddenly being extremely hostile again and claiming they will refuse to give up anything.
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In response to OhhhJa

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Trump may have fucked this up, but at least he also gave Iran free rein to build nuclear weapons.
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SushiSquid posted...

I doubt many are shocked about this.

Honestly, it was *always* going to be a bit of a longshot but it seemed like we were close to getting them to the table... but then things started to fall apart with the joint military exercises which prompted strong words from the Kim Regime.

THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...

North Korea did literally everything Trump wanted: blew up their test sights, started negotiating peace with South Korea, everything.

Then Trump has to stab them in the back because "they were mean" followed by a statement where he threatens them. What a piece of shit.

Uhhh, overlooking NK's threats following the joint military exercises, within the past week alone the state broadcasts had announced intentions to continue with their nuclear program. Even if you take all of the insults and threats off the table, it was starting to seem like NK didn't really have much intention of completely suspending the program. They would have been lying to at least one party.

yutterh posted...

Yes deserved hostility, because that dumbass John Bolton said we were gonna fuckin kill him. Do you not remember that?

You basically added more spin to John Oliver's (and others') spin. Oliver was noting that the Libya Model had unfortunate connotations given how things in Libya concluded, which incidentally occurred *long* after the actual disarmament. The disarmament was concluded in 2004. The revolution was 2011 and kinda unrelated to the WMD disarmament.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disarmament_of_Libya
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TigerTycoon posted...

Not sure what North Korea's angle is, suddenly being super open to being peaceful and claiming they are open to negotiations, than suddenly being extremely hostile again and claiming they will refuse to give up anything.

John Bolton and Mike Pence both said we should try to follow the Libya model, which would mean Kim would get killed.

North Korea called Pence stupid, and Trump canceled the meeting over that. Did he do it because of the comment? With Trump, who knows. It's within his personality.

SushiSquid posted...

TigerTycoon posted...

Not sure what North Korea's angle is, suddenly being super open to being peaceful and claiming they are open to negotiations, than suddenly being extremely hostile again and claiming they will refuse to give up anything.

John Bolton and Mike Pence both said we should try to follow the Libya model, which would mean Kim would get killed.

North Korea called Pence stupid, and Trump canceled the meeting over that.

Again:

Zeus posted...

You basically added more spin to John Oliver's (and others') spin. Oliver was noting that the Libya Model had unfortunate connotations given how things in Libya concluded, which incidentally occurred *long* after the actual disarmament. The disarmament was concluded in 2004. The revolution was 2011 and kinda unrelated to the WMD disarmament.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disarmament_of_Libya

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GanonsSpirit posted...

Trump may have fucked this up, but at least he also gave Iran free rein to build nuclear weapons.

Which can only go well, ok?
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Pretty much the correct decision. By all appearances Trump was about to get bent over a barrel in this conference; it never should have been agreed to in its current format and plainly had insufficient planning put into it. Best to cut losses now while it's still limited to just Trump's reputation and an increase in North Korea's status in Asia.

OhhhJa posted...

Yeah Obama would've just been like, "yes mr. Kim, whatever you want, sir! You guys can have all the nukes you want. Just please don't threaten us anymore! It's very scary!"

It's funny to me that you think this given that Obama was a major proponent of the "maximum pressure" sanctions effort that was widely credited with putting North Korea in a position where they would even want to negotiate.

I don't mean to poke holes in your right-wing ranting, but Obama was anything but soft on North Korea.
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NK: "What we're doing has nothing to do with Trump. Don't listen to him."
Trump: "They are too hostile. I'm canceling our summit. Sad."
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Wondering how Trump supporters will spin this.
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