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Questionmarktarius 05/24/18 10:34:24 AM #51:	https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/05/24/ what-the-nfls-new-rules-for-anthem-protests-really-mean -for-the-first-amendment-according-to-experts/ Do NFL players have First Amendment rights on the football field? The short answer is no. NFL teams are private companies, making the First Amendment a mostly moot point. The players can be subject to discipline or termination as employees if they dont follow league rules. The First Amendment doesnt apply to private institutions, Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of Berkeley Law and a constitutional law expert told The Washington Post. Private employers can fire employees for their speech without having to worry about the First Amendment. However, Trump is dead wrong on "You have to" here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette It doesn't take a huge leap of logic to figure out that the same concept covers the anthem as well, at least in public places. It could be argued that taxpayer-subsided bigass stadiums are somehow "public" places. Maybe a clever lawyer should get on that. At the very least, a ruling in that direction could quickly end to the expectation that the public has to pay for the damned things. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:901902719] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/05/24/ what-the-nfls-new-rules-for-anthem-protests-really-mean -for-the-first-amendment-according-to-experts/</cite> <quote>Do NFL players have First Amendment rights on the football field? The short answer is no. NFL teams are private companies, making the First Amendment a mostly moot point. The players can be subject to discipline or termination as employees if they dont follow league rules. The First Amendment doesnt apply to private institutions, Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of Berkeley Law and a constitutional law expert told The Washington Post. Private employers can fire employees for their speech without having to worry about the First Amendment.</quote> However, Trump is dead wrong on "You have to" here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette It doesn't take a huge leap of logic to figure out that the same concept covers the anthem as well, at least in public places. It could be argued that taxpayer-subsided bigass stadiums are somehow "public" places. Maybe a clever lawyer should get on that. At the very least, a ruling in that direction could quickly end to the expectation that the public has to pay for the damned things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 05/24/18 10:34:31 AM #52:	JBaLLEN66 posted... Why are people so butthurt about players not standing The view / excuse from the other side is that, regardless of your politics, you need to have utmost respect for the symbolism of this country: disrespect the flag in any conceivable way and you are pissing on all the brave men and women who died in service of the American ideal. They see this as yet another eroding of their version of classic American morals and values. Even factoring out how polarizing things are now politically, it is very unlikely that you can talk these people down from this, because it's such a deep offense to their sensibilities. Thinking about this whole thing, I honestly don't know if I can compliment Trump for being a master manipulator in his ability to dredge up and reignite near-dead controversies in continuing attempts to keep the focus off his giant shady ass, or if the country's already such a boiling pot that he doesn't even have to try. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:901902730] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>JBaLLEN66 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people so butthurt about players not standing</quote> The view / excuse from the other side is that, regardless of your politics, you need to have utmost respect for the symbolism of this country: disrespect the flag in any conceivable way and you are pissing on all the brave men and women who died in service of the American ideal. They see this as yet another eroding of their version of classic American morals and values. Even factoring out how polarizing things are now politically, it is very unlikely that you can talk these people down from this, because it's such a deep offense to their sensibilities. Thinking about this whole thing, I honestly don't know if I can compliment Trump for being a master manipulator in his ability to dredge up and reignite near-dead controversies in continuing attempts to keep the focus off his giant shady ass, or if the country's already such a boiling pot that he doesn't even have to try.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/24/18 10:34:53 AM #53:	Not surprising, Trump supporters would openly deport anyone of the opposite party or basically anyone who doesn't kiss Trumps ass. Yet somehow calling them wannabe fascists is being "unfair" --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901902750] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote>Not surprising, Trump supporters would openly deport anyone of the opposite party or basically anyone who doesn't kiss Trumps ass. Yet somehow calling them wannabe fascists is being "unfair"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/24/18 10:36:01 AM #54:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Yet somehow calling them wannabe fascists is being "unfair" Now, now, hyper-nationalism isn't always fascist, just usually. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:901902802] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Yet somehow calling them wannabe fascists is being "unfair"</quote> Now, now, hyper-nationalism isn't always fascist, just usually.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/24/18 10:37:40 AM #55:	masterpug53 posted... Thinking about this whole thing, I honestly don't know if I can compliment Trump for being a master manipulator in his ability to dredge up and reignite near-dead controversies in continuing attempts to keep the focus off his giant shady ass, or if the country's already such a boiling pot that he doesn't even have to try. I mean, Trump didn't reignite this; it was the NFL's decision to change its rules. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:901902878] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>masterpug53 posted...</cite> <quote>Thinking about this whole thing, I honestly don't know if I can compliment Trump for being a master manipulator in his ability to dredge up and reignite near-dead controversies in continuing attempts to keep the focus off his giant shady ass, or if the country's already such a boiling pot that he doesn't even have to try. </quote> I mean, Trump didn't reignite this; it was the NFL's decision to change its rules.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 05/24/18 10:39:24 AM #56:	Nomadic View posted... Isnt this what liberals want? Complete silence from dissenting opinions? Some of the crazier liberals sure but most of us no. The silencing is more a right wing thing. It's not the left trying to silence the media that is being negative about their beloved president. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:901902976] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt this what liberals want? Complete silence from dissenting opinions?</quote> Some of the crazier liberals sure but most of us no. The silencing is more a right wing thing. It's not the left trying to silence the media that is being negative about their beloved president.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 05/24/18 10:41:55 AM #57:	TomNook20 posted... Nomadic View posted... Isnt this what liberals want? Complete silence from dissenting opinions? Yep, but they always forget who's running the government. Can either of you find mainstream liberals or those endorsed by them who advocate this? Of course you cant because you equate liberals calling out racism/sexism/transphobia/etc. with silencing opinions --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:901903102] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>TomNook20 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt this what liberals want? Complete silence from dissenting opinions?</quote> Yep, but they always forget who's running the government.</quote> Can either of you find mainstream liberals or those endorsed by them who advocate this? Of course you cant because you equate liberals calling out racism/sexism/transphobia/etc. with silencing opinions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 05/24/18 10:43:49 AM #58:	Antifar posted... masterpug53 posted... Thinking about this whole thing, I honestly don't know if I can compliment Trump for being a master manipulator in his ability to dredge up and reignite near-dead controversies in continuing attempts to keep the focus off his giant shady ass, or if the country's already such a boiling pot that he doesn't even have to try. I mean, Trump didn't reignite this; it was the NFL's decision to change its rules. I meant the original reigniting, back when Kaepernick was already old news and Trump brought the nontroversy back to center stage with his 'sons of bitches' comment. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:901903182] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>masterpug53 posted...</cite> <quote>Thinking about this whole thing, I honestly don't know if I can compliment Trump for being a master manipulator in his ability to dredge up and reignite near-dead controversies in continuing attempts to keep the focus off his giant shady ass, or if the country's already such a boiling pot that he doesn't even have to try. </quote> I mean, Trump didn't reignite this; it was the NFL's decision to change its rules.</quote> I meant the original reigniting, back when Kaepernick was already old news and Trump brought the nontroversy back to center stage with his 'sons of bitches' comment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sobergermanguy 05/24/18 10:47:42 AM #59:	If you listen to the full interview in context he was obviously referring to NFL players who are also illegal immigrants. Is this really the hill liberals want to die on? --- You choc-blocked me, bro <cite>sobergermanguy posted [p:901903342] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote>If you listen to the full interview in context he was obviously referring to NFL players who are also illegal immigrants. Is this really the hill liberals want to die on?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 05/24/18 10:48:44 AM #60:	sobergermanguy posted... NFL players who are also illegal immigrants Wut? --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:901903389] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>sobergermanguy posted...</cite> <quote>NFL players who are also illegal immigrants</quote> Wut?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaWarrior455 05/24/18 10:51:12 AM #61:	Goodell and the majority of the owners really didn't think this one through. --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 <cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted [p:901903497] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote>Goodell and the majority of the owners really didn't think this one through.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/24/18 10:51:12 AM #62:	sobergermanguy posted... NFL players who are also illegal immigrants ...that's a thing? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:901903499] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>sobergermanguy posted...</cite> <quote>NFL players who are also illegal immigrants</quote> ...that's a thing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/24/18 10:55:59 AM #63:	Questionmarktarius posted... sobergermanguy posted... NFL players who are also illegal immigrants ...that's a thing? He's joking, in reference to the recent "animals" controversy. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:901903703] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sobergermanguy posted...</cite> <quote>NFL players who are also illegal immigrants</quote> ...that's a thing?</quote> He's joking, in reference to the recent "animals" controversy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 05/24/18 11:03:48 AM #64:	sobergermanguy posted... If you listen to the full interview in context he was obviously referring to NFL players who are also illegal immigrants. Is this really the hill liberals want to die on? Ok this is some hilarious trolling --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:901904044] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>sobergermanguy posted...</cite> <quote>If you listen to the full interview in context he was obviously referring to NFL players who are also illegal immigrants. Is this really the hill liberals want to die on?</quote> Ok this is some hilarious trolling</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sobergermanguy 05/24/18 11:19:26 AM #65:	Antifar posted... Questionmarktarius posted... sobergermanguy posted... NFL players who are also illegal immigrants ...that's a thing? He's joking, in reference to the recent "animals" controversy. ^ --- You choc-blocked me, bro <cite>sobergermanguy posted [p:901904730] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sobergermanguy posted...</cite> <quote>NFL players who are also illegal immigrants</quote> ...that's a thing?</quote> He's joking, in reference to the recent "animals" controversy.</quote>^</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 05/24/18 11:31:19 AM #66:	sobergermanguy posted... If you listen to the full interview in context he was obviously referring to NFL players who are also illegal immigrants. Is this really the hill liberals want to die on? This was good --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:901905280] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>sobergermanguy posted...</cite> <quote>If you listen to the full interview in context he was obviously referring to NFL players who are also illegal immigrants. Is this really the hill liberals want to die on?</quote> This was good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/24/18 12:33:30 PM #67:	https://twitter.com/CNN/status/999476113654067200 Jim from The Office face --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:901908469] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/CNN/status/999476113654067200 Jim from The Office face</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OldSnakeLiveon8 05/24/18 12:34:28 PM #68:	Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag <cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted [p:901908522] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote>Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 05/24/18 12:38:22 PM #69:	NinjaWarrior455 posted... Goodell and the majority of the owners really didn't think this one through. This. By dropping to their knees and opening wide for Trump, the NFL just reignited this. --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:901908720] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted...</cite> <quote>Goodell and the majority of the owners really didn't think this one through.</quote> This. By dropping to their knees and opening wide for Trump, the NFL just reignited this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 05/24/18 12:51:28 PM #70:	OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag Easier solution: realize the kneeling was recommended by a Navy Seal as a respectful way to draw attention to the issue --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:901909421] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag</quote> Easier solution: realize the kneeling was recommended by a Navy Seal as a respectful way to draw attention to the issue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/24/18 12:51:44 PM #71:	OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag What is Freedom --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:901909446] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag</quote> What is Freedom</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OldSnakeLiveon8 05/24/18 1:01:45 PM #72:	wackyteen posted... OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag What is Freedom It's what our ancestors fought and died for. Those brave men and women are who you disgrace when you disrespect the flag <cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted [p:901910007] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag</quote> What is Freedom</quote> It's what our ancestors fought and died for. Those brave men and women are who you disgrace when you disrespect the flag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OldSnakeLiveon8 05/24/18 1:02:13 PM #73:	Mr_Biscuit posted... OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag Easier solution: realize the kneeling was recommended by a Navy Seal as a respectful way to draw attention to the issue Sure it was <cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted [p:901910031] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag</quote> Easier solution: realize the kneeling was recommended by a Navy Seal as a respectful way to draw attention to the issue</quote> Sure it was</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 05/24/18 1:03:49 PM #74:	OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag Easier solution: realize the kneeling was recommended by a Navy Seal as a respectful way to draw attention to the issue Sure it was It was actually Army Special Forces veteran Nate Boyer who suggested to Kaepernick that he should kneel instead of sit. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:901910109] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag</quote> Easier solution: realize the kneeling was recommended by a Navy Seal as a respectful way to draw attention to the issue</quote> Sure it was</quote> It was actually Army Special Forces veteran Nate Boyer who suggested to Kaepernick that he should kneel instead of sit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/24/18 1:05:12 PM #75:	OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Sure it was He's actually wrong, but not in the way you think it was. It was a Green Beret, not a Seal. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-how-nate-boyer-got-colin-kaepernick-to-go-from-sitting-to-kneeling/ --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901910190] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Sure it was</quote> He's actually wrong, but not in the way you think it was. It was a Green Beret, not a Seal. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-how-nate-boyer-got-colin-kaepernick-to-go-from-sitting-to-kneeling/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 05/24/18 1:06:10 PM #76:	OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... wackyteen posted... OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag What is Freedom It's what our ancestors fought and died for. Those brave men and women are who you disgrace when you disrespect the flag The kneeling is not about that sparky. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:901910242] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag</quote> What is Freedom</quote> It's what our ancestors fought and died for. Those brave men and women are who you disgrace when you disrespect the flag</quote> The kneeling is not about that sparky.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 05/24/18 1:27:16 PM #77:	The Great Muta 22 posted... OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Sure it was He's actually wrong, but not in the way you think it was. It was a Green Beret, not a Seal. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-how-nate-boyer-got-colin-kaepernick-to-go-from-sitting-to-kneeling/ Thank you for clarifying --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:901911442] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Sure it was</quote> He's actually wrong, but not in the way you think it was. It was a Green Beret, not a Seal. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-how-nate-boyer-got-colin-kaepernick-to-go-from-sitting-to-kneeling/</quote> Thank you for clarifying</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OldSnakeLiveon8 05/24/18 1:29:27 PM #78:	Kaep is an ignorant Castro lover. He doesn't care about real oppression <cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted [p:901911578] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote>Kaep is an ignorant Castro lover. He doesn't care about real oppression</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/24/18 1:30:04 PM #79:	Players have already made it known that they weren't even thinking about protesting until this rule came along, and now they're back on the idea. This will only lead to more. masterpug53 posted... Thinking about this whole thing, I honestly don't know if I can compliment Trump for being a master manipulator in his ability to dredge up and reignite near-dead controversies in continuing attempts to keep the focus off his giant shady ass, or if the country's already such a boiling pot that he doesn't even have to try. This is... unfortunately, an excellent point. Antifar posted... https://twitter.com/CNN/status/999476113654067200 Jim from The Office face Dammit, lady. Grow a fucking pair already. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:901911622] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote>Players have already made it known that they weren't even thinking about protesting until this rule came along, and now they're back on the idea. This will only lead to more. <cite>masterpug53 posted...</cite> <quote>Thinking about this whole thing, I honestly don't know if I can compliment Trump for being a master manipulator in his ability to dredge up and reignite near-dead controversies in continuing attempts to keep the focus off his giant shady ass, or if the country's already such a boiling pot that he doesn't even have to try.</quote> This is... unfortunately, an excellent point. <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/CNN/status/999476113654067200 Jim from The Office face</quote> Dammit, lady. Grow a fucking pair already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chad-Henne 05/24/18 1:30:17 PM #80:	OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Kaep is an ignorant Castro lover. He doesn't care about real oppression At least put some effort into it --- http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1759573/hennelol2.gif http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1303533/hennefight_medium.gif <cite>Chad-Henne posted [p:901911636] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Kaep is an ignorant Castro lover. He doesn't care about real oppression</quote> At least put some effort into it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 05/24/18 1:32:30 PM #81:	if yew dun like it yew can geddout!!!! --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:901911749] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote>if yew dun like it yew can geddout!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OldSnakeLiveon8 05/24/18 1:34:43 PM #82:	Chad-Henne posted... OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Kaep is an ignorant Castro lover. He doesn't care about real oppression At least put some effort into it Kneeling is hard <cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted [p:901911875] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chad-Henne posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Kaep is an ignorant Castro lover. He doesn't care about real oppression</quote> At least put some effort into it</quote> Kneeling is hard</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 05/24/18 1:35:20 PM #83:	Chad-Henne posted... OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Kaep is an ignorant Castro lover. He doesn't care about real oppression At least put some effort into it --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:901911910] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chad-Henne posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Kaep is an ignorant Castro lover. He doesn't care about real oppression</quote> At least put some effort into it</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knuxnole 05/24/18 1:35:53 PM #84:	Fair next --- 3DS FC: 4554-0309-4782 <cite>knuxnole posted [p:901911944] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote>Fair next</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 05/24/18 1:51:36 PM #85:	OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... wackyteen posted... OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag What is Freedom It's what our ancestors fought and died for. Those brave men and women are who you disgrace when you disrespect the flag edit: reading over the topic i dont wanna seriously respond to this dude --- Playing: Doom (2016) (PC) *(~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:901912821] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag</quote> What is Freedom</quote> It's what our ancestors fought and died for. Those brave men and women are who you disgrace when you disrespect the flag</quote> edit: reading over the topic i dont wanna seriously respond to this dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OldSnakeLiveon8 05/24/18 1:58:38 PM #86:	Giant_Aspirin posted... OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... wackyteen posted... OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag What is Freedom It's what our ancestors fought and died for. Those brave men and women are who you disgrace when you disrespect the flag edit: reading over the topic i dont wanna seriously respond to this dude I read your original reply. Kneeling is disrespectful, that's why NFL players do it <cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted [p:901913211] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag</quote> What is Freedom</quote> It's what our ancestors fought and died for. Those brave men and women are who you disgrace when you disrespect the flag</quote> edit: reading over the topic i dont wanna seriously respond to this dude</quote>I read your original reply. Kneeling is disrespectful, that's why NFL players do it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 05/24/18 2:01:26 PM #87:	OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... wackyteen posted... OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag What is Freedom It's what our ancestors fought and died for. Those brave men and women are who you disgrace when you disrespect the flag edit: reading over the topic i dont wanna seriously respond to this dude I read your original reply. Kneeling is disrespectful, that's why NFL players do it Mr_Biscuit posted... https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-how-nate-boyer-got-colin-kaepernick-to-go-from-sitting-to-kneeling/ --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:901913357] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>Easy solution: Don't disrespect the flag</quote> What is Freedom</quote> It's what our ancestors fought and died for. Those brave men and women are who you disgrace when you disrespect the flag</quote> edit: reading over the topic i dont wanna seriously respond to this dude</quote>I read your original reply. Kneeling is disrespectful, that's why NFL players do it</quote> <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-how-nate-boyer-got-colin-kaepernick-to-go-from-sitting-to-kneeling/</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Parappa09 05/25/18 4:41:57 AM #88:	Antifar posted... https://twitter.com/CNN/status/999476113654067200 Jim from The Office face jesus christ, that was terrible i thought she was going to pull a trump and go with "no one loves the national anthem more than i do" --- https://imgur.com/us5qLQb http://beta.last.fm/user/Jay92Jay <cite>Parappa09 posted [p:901952610] in Trump: NFL... [t:76638490]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/CNN/status/999476113654067200 Jim from The Office face</quote> jesus christ, that was terrible i thought she was going to pull a trump and go with "no one loves the national anthem more than i do"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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