Current Events > I'm white and I say the N word when I sing along to rap songs

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Why wouldn't I? I never sing the censored versions of any songs.

do it in front of 8000 black people
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

do it in front of 8000 black people

Black people wouldn't understand in that context that it's not meant to be derogatory?

clearaflagrantj posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

do it in front of 8000 black people

Black people wouldn't understand in that context that it's not meant to be derogatory?

I think hes implying black people have a mob mentality.

That word is always derogatory
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

That word is always derogatory

So when a black person says to another black person "what's good my N-word" that's derogatory?

clearaflagrantj posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

That word is always derogatory

So when a black person says to another black person "what's good my N-word" that's derogatory?

Yeah
But there's also the nuance of re-appropriating the word as a term of endearment

But there's no question it's always derogatory
especially when it's not from a black person's mouth imo

(but don't take my word for it i don't get to decide these things; that's kinda the point and CERTAIN people should get that through their skulls)
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Okay I'm going to sing it anyway

TC doesn't know any black people irl confirmed.
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If youre not a racist and saying it in a nonderogatory way it really should be a non-issue.

I cant count hows many times my friends and brother have greeted each other using the forbidden n word.
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I do the same. Also when quoting black comedians, too.

I was actually hanging out with my "second family" (like seriously, I get invited to family reunions and everything, where I'm literally the only white person there and nobody gives a shit) one time and one of them mentioned Katt Williams. When I said I thought he was hilarious they didn't believe I even knew who he was, so I started quoting a bit from his Pimp Chronicles. But I didn't say the N-word, and just skipped over them. They were all laughing their asses off, but Desiree just looked at me and said "Alright, fair enough, I'm impressed. But next time just say the word. It actually sounds weirder when you don't. Besides, you're black anyway."

For the record, I'm a pasty white guy. It's just kind of become a running joke between us that I fit in so well with their family, and all the black people they know love me, that whenever someone makes a joke about "white people" I will make a mock-offended expression and they'll just go "oh come on, you know you're not really white." XD
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Chris Rock already said it was okay for white people to use the n-word when they're singing along with a song that contains the word. This was years ago so there shouldn't be any current debate on the matter.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

That word is always derogatory

So when a black person says to another black person "what's good my N-word" that's derogatory?

Yeah
But there's also the nuance of re-appropriating the word as a term of endearment

But there's no question it's always derogatory
especially when it's not from a black person's mouth imo

(but don't take my word for it i don't get to decide these things; that's kinda the point and CERTAIN people should get that through their skulls)

Right. You have no personal authority over the intent of words you personally use. That is left solely to the people who listen to them. So, If for instance I say "Good morning to my wife" and she decides that my intention in saying good morning to her always means I cheated on her and am leaving her, she's correct. I don't get to decide she was wrong about that.
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Easy fix - Listen to better more wholesome music.

lol
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then you are racist
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DifferentialEquation posted...

Chris Rock already said it was okay for white people to use the n-word when they're singing along with a song that contains the word. This was years ago so there shouldn't be any current debate on the matter.

He also said its OK for white women to say it while engaging in coitus with a member of the black community.

EnterTheTekken posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Chris Rock already said it was okay for white people to use the n-word when they're singing along with a song that contains the word. This was years ago so there shouldn't be any current debate on the matter.

He also said its OK for white women to say it while engaging in coitus with a member of the black community.

DE isn't even trying at this point.
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I dont' say any racial slurs even if I am reading something. sometimes I read aloud to myself. and if I run unto a slur I stop myself and just read it silently. I never say slurs. I don't think I have ever said the N word outloud in my entire life

Why do white people get so passionate about being allowed to use the n word?
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how's your flow tho
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Squall28 posted...

Why do white people get so passionate about being allowed to use the n word?

it ranges from being insecure to being socially inept robots who can't understand social nuance and were probably in special classes growing up
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I'm white and I'm embarrassed as hell that I used to quote Dave Chapelle skits uncensored when I was in my early 20's.
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clearaflagrantj posted...

Why wouldn't I? I never sing the censored versions of any songs.

Record yourself doing it around your black friends and post it
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ultimate reaver posted...

Squall28 posted...

Why do white people get so passionate about being allowed to use the n word?

it ranges from being insecure to being socially inept robots who can't understand social nuance and were probably in special classes growing up

Nah I just like singing songs

Freddie_Mercury posted...

how's your flow tho

Oh it's the worst

My white friends use that word as a greeting with one another, or as to say thank you (my ___).

We were out and a friend said it within earshot of these black dudes we were playing craps with and they did not seem to mind (unless they just kept it to themselves). They continued giving us pointers and talking with us.

I find that if you leave the internet and enter the real world, people are much cooler about things. Unless he just got lucky in this case.
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ultimate reaver posted...

Squall28 posted...

Why do white people get so passionate about being allowed to use the n word?

it ranges from being insecure to being socially inept robots who can't understand social nuance and were probably in special classes growing up

Pretty much this
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

That word is always derogatory

So reading "Huckleberry Fin" and "Roll of thunder hear my cry" to a class of students is racist and derogatory?
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Superlinkbro posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

That word is always derogatory

So reading "Huckleberry Fin" and "Roll of thunder hear my cry" to a class of students is racist and derogatory?

it's a derogatory word

just because there are acceptable situations in which it can be said aloud doesn't mean it's not a derogatory word anymore
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Superlinkbro posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

That word is always derogatory

So reading "Huckleberry Fin" and "Roll of thunder hear my cry" to a class of students is racist and derogatory?

it's a derogatory word

just because there are acceptable situations in which it can be said aloud doesn't mean it's not a derogatory word anymore

It was and still is to an extent derogatory, yes. But people that hype that word up and make a big deal about saying it just make it worse than it already is tbh.
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You are a liberal. It is supposed to offend you.
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Eminem said the N-word while rapping along to Dr. Dre songs in concert

If nobody cared then I don't want to hear about it now
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FrisbeeDude posted...

ultimate reaver posted...

Squall28 posted...

Why do white people get so passionate about being allowed to use the n word?

it ranges from being insecure to being socially inept robots who can't understand social nuance and were probably in special classes growing up

Pretty much this

"X people aren't allowed to [thing]"

Even if it's dumb, that kinda thing will upset people.
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clearaflagrantj posted...

Why wouldn't I?

because there are some racist and ignorant individuals who seem to think only X skin color can use Y word.
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Kendrick Lamar is a far more relevant authority on the matter of race and rapping than Chris fucking Rock.
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I mumble it quietly while looking down
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ThyCorndog posted...

I mumble it quietly while looking down

This. I also start to visibly sweat as the word draws near.
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Oh yeah
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I'm from the hoods of NYC, so nobody gives 2 fucks when I say it in everyday language and straight up to black people. Even had a black guy in Boston I was rooming with tell me "you sound like you're from the hood, so you get a pass" when I brought the subject up.

Clear however is from Long Island and white. He'd probably get punched lol. For a white person to get that pass, you pretty much have to be like Eminem and extremely hood, which is actually not rare.
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Mango Sauce posted...

Kendrick Lamar is a far more relevant authority on the matter of race and rapping than Chris fucking Rock.

Why is he a more relevant authority on the matter of race?
What an ignorant comment. Anyone empowering that word, by making it so forbidden, is a bloody moron. It's a word. Sure, it can be used in a derogatory manner. 90% of the time it's not. Stop making it an issue when it clearly isn't. Stop finding things to be mad about. I wish everybody would just shut up about this whole thing. Find something important to care about. Not someone who is clearly not a racist using some forbidden word, because people choose to see it as racist. Language must evolve, if we keep letting the N word be about a racist past, then we will remain in that racist past until we die.
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Honestly I think it's a lot less clear cut than it used to be. Some black people don't care, some white people care a lot, and vice versa. I prefer not to say it
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eston posted...

Honestly I think it's a lot less clear cut than it used to be. Some black people don't care, some white people care a lot, and vice versa. I prefer not to say it

Nah, breh. It's still pretty clear, as this case shows.
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Contrary to what your mother may tell you, you are not important enough for this to be even remotely noteworthy.

Black people don't even agree if THEY should be using.

So I don't know why a single black person saying y'all can say it can or should speak for everyone.
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I bet TC says it with the hard R whiie smiling.
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Mister_Spyker posted...

Mango Sauce posted...

Kendrick Lamar is a far more relevant authority on the matter of race and rapping than Chris fucking Rock.

Why is he a more relevant authority on the matter of race?
What an ignorant comment. Anyone empowering that word, by making it so forbidden, is a bloody moron. It's a word. Sure, it can be used in a derogatory manner. 90% of the time it's not. Stop making it an issue when it clearly isn't. Stop finding things to be mad about. I wish everybody would just shut up about this whole thing. Find something important to care about. Not someone who is clearly not a racist using some forbidden word, because people choose to see it as racist. Language must evolve, if we keep letting the N word be about a racist past, then we will remain in that racist past until we die.

None of that's a white persons job to decided

The word is still racist, just because it has a different meaning in certain sub cultures and context doesn't mean you get to decide you're apart of that sub culture.
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Dont be hatin
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gamepimp12 posted...

Mister_Spyker posted...

Mango Sauce posted...

Kendrick Lamar is a far more relevant authority on the matter of race and rapping than Chris fucking Rock.

Why is he a more relevant authority on the matter of race?
What an ignorant comment. Anyone empowering that word, by making it so forbidden, is a bloody moron. It's a word. Sure, it can be used in a derogatory manner. 90% of the time it's not. Stop making it an issue when it clearly isn't. Stop finding things to be mad about. I wish everybody would just shut up about this whole thing. Find something important to care about. Not someone who is clearly not a racist using some forbidden word, because people choose to see it as racist. Language must evolve, if we keep letting the N word be about a racist past, then we will remain in that racist past until we die.

None of that's a white persons job to decided

The word is still racist, just because it has a different meaning in certain sub cultures and context doesn't mean you get to decide you're apart of that sub culture.

Is it a black persons'?
Who decides these things? How do you even know if I'm white? That's the worst kind of argument.
There's no point holding on to this resentment. Let culture evolve past racism, stop focusing on these dumb issues of language. There are very important issues at hand about the way we see and act toward black people that need to be addressed, and these non-issues turn the cause into a joke.
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1. Its not any singular black persons to decide either

2. Its pretty easy to tell tbh

3. So your saying letting white peoples and other non black PoC use the N word indiscriminately, should be the next move ending racism and not ending the racial biases still common today....
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