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dave_is_slick 05/22/18 11:10:29 PM #52: |
awesome999 posted...
What if they send it near a black hole where the gravity eventually gets it Jesus fucking... IT'S NEVER SHOWN TO BE ABLE TO TELEPORT OFF PLANET! IT'S WHY HE NEEDED THE DONUT SHIP TO GET BACK TO EARTH!! FUCK! --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 05/22/18 11:11:29 PM #53: |
awesome999 posted...
ghettoraider81 posted...clearaflagrantj posted...Maybe if Thanos didn't do the snap someone else would have used the guantlet to become a God or something Yeah, but is it really a good idea to send the infinity stones off into a blackhole? Like, I'm not exactly sure how they'd react to that. It's sort of like dropping an assailants gun into a flaming steel drum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jerry_Hellyeah 05/22/18 11:11:45 PM #54: |
Dash_Harber posted...
dave_is_slick posted...Dash_Harber posted...Again, haven't seen it yet, was just asking. What the fuck My god, Ive taken so much for granted in my life.... --- This is a cool sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raikuro 05/22/18 11:12:03 PM #55: |
dave_is_slick posted...
had enough willpower where he would've immediately broken free of whatever Mantis was doing and reclaimed it. Nope, not pulling that out of your ass. If he could willpower out of it he would have did it a lot sooner, especially when the glove as almost completely off. The only thing that stopped Mantis was Peter knocking her loose. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 05/22/18 11:12:54 PM #56: |
Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Dash_Harber posted...dave_is_slick posted...Dash_Harber posted...Again, haven't seen it yet, was just asking. Ummm ... I'm not sure I understand that reaction. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/22/18 11:13:13 PM #57: |
dave_is_slick posted...
awesome999 posted...What if they send it near a black hole where the gravity eventually gets it Or maybe a much simpler and more logical explanation is that he just didn't know where he was, which is why he couldn't teleport back to Earth. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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awesome999 05/22/18 11:13:50 PM #58: |
Dash_Harber posted...
awesome999 posted...ghettoraider81 posted...clearaflagrantj posted...Maybe if Thanos didn't do the snap someone else would have used the guantlet to become a God or something Black hole as in anywhere someone can't get it Like the middle of the ocean or a star There is of course the thing today strange has to imagine being there --- When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 05/22/18 11:15:40 PM #59: |
awesome999 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...awesome999 posted...ghettoraider81 posted...clearaflagrantj posted...Maybe if Thanos didn't do the snap someone else would have used the guantlet to become a God or something That makes sense, but the problem is that between magic that can do anything and Asgardian sci-fi fuckery, I'm fairly certain Doctor Strange couldn't work out the perfect hiding space that is off limits to every alien, humanoid, and robot out there. If it's safe, someone can get to it. If it's not, then you risk doing god knows what with a gauntlet that is basically made of nuclear reactors. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 05/22/18 11:16:42 PM #60: |
Raikuro posted...
dave_is_slick posted...had enough willpower where he would've immediately broken free of whatever Mantis was doing and reclaimed it. Did you completely miss my second paragraph? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 05/22/18 11:18:16 PM #61: |
Howl posted...
Or maybe a much simpler and more logical explanation is that he just didn't know where he was, which is why he couldn't teleport back to Earth. Did Strange know where he was when the Ancient One stranded him in the mountains? No? Well golly gee, that means that that is bullshit! --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/22/18 11:21:32 PM #62: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Howl posted... He knew he was still on Earth, not millions of miles away from Earth and not even knowing in which direction. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VandorLee 05/22/18 11:22:10 PM #63: |
Umm. The real story is Death blue balling Thanos until he totally gives up and becomes a farmer.
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Raikuro 05/22/18 11:36:13 PM #64: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Raikuro posted...dave_is_slick posted...had enough willpower where he would've immediately broken free of whatever Mantis was doing and reclaimed it. No, it's pointless to address. Their plan of simply stealing the gauntlet would have left them stranded on Titan either way so why even mention that? At least getting rid of his left arm would make it a lot harder for him to use the gauntlet again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 05/22/18 11:40:31 PM #65: |
Why not just use the portal to cut off Thanos's head and dump it 10 feet away if distance is such a huge problem?
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dave_is_slick 05/22/18 11:40:33 PM #66: |
Howl posted...
He knew he was still on Earth, not millions of miles away from Earth and not even knowing in which direction. So we're moving the goalposts. "Well, he didn't know where he was but he knew he was on Earth!" Take your Ls like a man, dude. Raikuro posted... No, it's pointless to address. Their plan of simply stealing the gauntlet would have left them stranded on Titan either way so why even mention that? At least getting rid of his left arm would make it a lot harder for him to use the gauntlet again. It took the combined effort of everyone there to scratch him. What makes you think cutting off his arm would even work? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raikuro 05/23/18 12:15:33 AM #67: |
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VandorLee 05/23/18 12:18:20 AM #68: |
So behead him instead....
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YoshitoKikuchi 05/23/18 12:20:28 AM #69: |
Raikuro posted...
https://imgur.com/ztZGh9p I think the thing is that it is unclear how far Doctor Strange can send portals to. I thought he could open portals to anywhere that he wants to. If so, he could send the gauntlet to the sun. --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead https://imgur.com/YQpeyD3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/23/18 12:22:25 AM #70: |
I've never seen another movie have so much "why didn't the character just do this thing" criticism thrown towards it until now.
Even though there actually is an explanation stated in the movie. It doesn't work. Whatever fan fiction win scenario you dreamed up didn't work. Oh well. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 05/23/18 12:23:36 AM #71: |
VandorLee posted...
So behead him instead.... dave_is_slick posted... It took the combined effort of everyone there to scratch him. What makes you think cutting off his arm would even work? Replace arm with head. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raikuro 05/23/18 12:25:17 AM #72: |
Darmik posted...
Even though there actually is an explanation stated in the movie. It doesn't work. Where was it stated? I need a reminder. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/23/18 12:30:17 AM #73: |
Raikuro posted...
Darmik posted...Even though there actually is an explanation stated in the movie. It doesn't work. Strange looked at millions of possibilities and only saw one where there was a victory. The movie has likely never diverted from the vision he saw. He didn't just look at the battle on Titan. He looked long term. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 05/23/18 12:32:49 AM #74: |
Darmik posted...
Raikuro posted...Darmik posted...Even though there actually is an explanation stated in the movie. It doesn't work. But that's a very cheap way to say "No, there aren't any plot holes, we made our characters think of that". We as the audience shouldn't just take at face value that he was right. The fact that so many people are arguing against it means that it was poor writing. If they had tried somewhat to show why Strange chose this one path, then it wouldn't be so bad. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/23/18 12:35:22 AM #75: |
LightningAce11 posted...
Darmik posted...Raikuro posted...Darmik posted...Even though there actually is an explanation stated in the movie. It doesn't work. That's what the sequel is for. The movie ends on a cliffhanger. But the obvious signs are there. We know why Strange chose this path. It's the only one where they win for good. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 05/23/18 12:36:30 AM #76: |
So we have to watch both movies one after the other for them to make sense?
Why not just keep the names part 1 and 2 if that's what they were going to do? --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 05/23/18 12:37:20 AM #77: |
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
SavenForever posted...YoshitoKikuchi posted...SavenForever posted...It wasn't apart of the one timeline that would work, duh. Youre taking these films way too seriously --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me saturate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raikuro 05/23/18 12:38:07 AM #78: |
How would Strange see the future of a path where he gets turned to dust?
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dave_is_slick 05/23/18 12:39:37 AM #79: |
LightningAce11 posted...
The fact that so many people are arguing against it means that it was poor writing. Or more likely it shows that people are never satisfied. How long was this movie supposed to be? Because it would be fucking stupid to lengthen it just for the whiny people who are like "well they didn't show anything so this could've worked". No. We are shown why Thanos was feared without the Stones. We are show how patient he is. We are shown how durable he is. We fucking have enough to understand why there's only one possibility where they ultimately win. Not the movies fault people can't pay attention if it isn't in flashing neon signs. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/23/18 12:39:53 AM #80: |
LightningAce11 posted...
So we have to watch both movies one after the other for them to make sense? You don't need to watch the other movie for it to make sense. The signs are there for you in the movie. Why would they ruin the future reveal that everything is going to according to Strange's plan? That would completely deflate the tension for the audience and characters like Stark. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 05/23/18 12:40:24 AM #81: |
Raikuro posted...
How would Strange see the future of a path where he gets turned to dust? The Time Stone let him. It's a different magic than the one that let the Ancient One see ahead. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 05/23/18 12:42:16 AM #82: |
Why wouldn't cutting his head off with portals have worked? The movie makes no attempt to explain this.
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YoshitoKikuchi 05/23/18 12:43:48 AM #83: |
LightningAce11 posted...
Why wouldn't cutting his head off with portals have worked? The movie makes no attempt to explain this. They are claiming that if the combined efforts can barely scratch Thanos, a portal wouldn't have worked. --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead https://imgur.com/YQpeyD3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 05/23/18 12:43:50 AM #84: |
LightningAce11 posted...
Why wouldn't cutting his head off with portals have worked? The movie makes no attempt to explain this. Because these films are PG-13 --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me saturate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/23/18 12:44:16 AM #85: |
LightningAce11 posted...
Why wouldn't cutting his head off with portals have worked? The movie makes no attempt to explain this. Because Thanos is too powerful for that to work. I don't know why you'd expect the movie to explain stuff like this. It's like asking why didn't Star Lord run Thanos over with a truck. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 05/23/18 12:45:10 AM #86: |
LightningAce11 posted...
Why wouldn't cutting his head off with portals have worked? The movie makes no attempt to explain this. Fucking Christ... He's much more durable. Hulk was the only one to land solid hits for a very brief period of time and he was taken down effortlessly. They managed to barely scratch him. There's your fucking attempt. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raikuro 05/23/18 12:45:58 AM #87: |
If Thanos could survive a portal closing it would have made for a much cooler fight actually showing him doing it. Strange is so bad at taking advantage of all his abilities in all his other fights though I wouldn't put it past him simply never thinking of it tbh.
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LightningAce11 05/23/18 12:46:40 AM #88: |
Yeah, I mean all they really hit him with were physical blows. The magical Stormbreaker deeply wounded him.
Now, using spacial displacement to cut off his head is completely different. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 05/23/18 12:52:49 AM #89: |
LightningAce11 posted...
The magical Stormbreaker deeply wounded him. The weapon specifically made to be the most powerful weapon? No shit it actually hurt him. Raikuro posted... If Thanos could survive a portal closing it would have made for a much cooler fight actually showing him doing it. Strange is so bad at taking advantage of all his abilities in all his other fights though I wouldn't put it past him simply never thinking of it tbh. We see it worked for one of the Black Order, yeah. But they are way weaker than Thanos. They didn't need a specific weapon to kill them and they didn't need the combined efforts of multiple people to barely hurt them. Hell, the fact that they died so easily is more than an indication that what hurt them won't hurt Thanos. Except for venting him into space, if it took place on a ship that would be a very valid complaint. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/23/18 12:53:18 AM #90: |
Raikuro posted...
If Thanos could survive a portal closing it would have made for a much cooler fight actually showing him doing it. Strange is so bad at taking advantage of all his abilities in all his other fights though I wouldn't put it past him simply never thinking of it tbh. Thanos notes that he doesn't use his time stone and considers it a weakness. Strange simply is letting the fight play out in the way he wants to. Everything is probably timed down to the second since he's accounting for the eventual snap that leaves behind the people who will eventually win. What Strange does or doesn't do in the fight isn't important. What he's setting up afterwards is. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VandorLee 05/23/18 12:54:16 AM #91: |
Id never think thanos just wants to bang death, subconciously lose and give up and just be a farmer but id be wrong.
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Howl 05/23/18 2:10:16 AM #92: |
Raikuro posted...
How would Strange see the future of a path where he gets turned to dust? He wouldn't as was already discussed by the Ancient One in the Dr. Strange movie. It's just another plot hole in this God Awful movie. Throw it in the pile. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 05/23/18 2:12:59 AM #93: |
Howl posted...
Raikuro posted...How would Strange see the future of a path where he gets turned to dust? Pretty sure she didn't use an infinity stone --- A thousand eyes, and one. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/23/18 2:15:09 AM #94: |
Howl posted...
Raikuro posted...How would Strange see the future of a path where he gets turned to dust? Ancient One: I've spent so many years peering through time, looking at this exact moment. But I can't see past it. I've prevented countless terrible futures and after each one there's always another, and they all lead here ... but never further. I don't think that's definitive at all. We also don't know if being erased by the time stone is the same as dying anyway. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/23/18 2:16:51 AM #95: |
DarthAragorn posted...
Howl posted...Raikuro posted... Pretty sure that answer is garbage seeing as how it never explains it in the movie. What's hilarious is anything not explained in the movie that they can do is dismissed when it doesn't support your narrative. But when I or anyone else question the potential powers of the infinity stone that is supposed to literally be infinite it's just "oh it doesn't say that in the movie they obviously can't do that." --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 05/23/18 2:19:43 AM #96: |
Howl posted...
Pretty sure that answer is garbage seeing as how it never explains it in the movie. What's hilarious is anything not explained in the movie that they can do is dismissed when it doesn't support your narrative. You really do need neon signs. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/23/18 2:34:55 AM #97: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Howl posted... No, you just need to at least attempt to be logically consistent. Or they just need to write a better movie next time. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/23/18 2:36:33 AM #98: |
Howl posted...
No, you just need to at least attempt to be logically consistent Point out two scenes that are inconsistent with each other. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/23/18 2:48:53 AM #99: |
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...No, you just need to at least attempt to be logically consistent Already did. Ancient One can't see past her death but Strange can. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YOUHAVENOHOPE 05/23/18 2:50:16 AM #100: |
Howl posted...
Already did. Ancient One can't see past her death but Strange can. Ancient One wasn't using the Time Stone --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 05/23/18 3:11:24 AM #101: |
Howl posted...
Darmik posted...Howl posted...No, you just need to at least attempt to be logically consistent Ah, the thing that has a very logical explanation but to acknowledge so would demolish your trolling. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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