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Howl 05/23/18 3:27:15 AM #102:	dave_is_slick posted... Howl posted... Darmik posted... Howl posted... No, you just need to at least attempt to be logically consistent Point out two scenes that are inconsistent with each other. Already did. Ancient One can't see past her death but Strange can. Ah, the thing that has a very logical explanation but to acknowledge so would demolish your trolling. It isn't a logical explanation based on the arguments you've made. It doesn't explain in the movie that that's the reason. You have used the argument repeatedly that because it doesn't explain powers that the time stone should logically have and could be utilized by Dr.Strange that he can't use them or that it's beyond the limit of the time stone even though none of that is explained in the movies. This is why I said you aren't being logically consistent. If you wanna go with the argument that he can see beyond his death because of the time stone even though that isn't explained in the movie, then you have to accept the premise that Dr.Strange could just rewind time at will or freeze time at will or that Thanos could just use the reality stone to create a new reality where he has all the stones instead of having to actually acquire them. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:901832913] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> No, you just need to at least attempt to be logically consistent </quote> Point out two scenes that are inconsistent with each other. </quote> Already did. Ancient One can't see past her death but Strange can. </quote> Ah, the thing that has a very logical explanation but to acknowledge so would demolish your trolling.</quote> It isn't a logical explanation based on the arguments you've made. It doesn't explain in the movie that that's the reason. You have used the argument repeatedly that because it doesn't explain powers that the time stone should logically have and could be utilized by Dr.Strange that he can't use them or that it's beyond the limit of the time stone even though none of that is explained in the movies. This is why I said you aren't being logically consistent. If you wanna go with the argument that he can see beyond his death because of the time stone even though that isn't explained in the movie, then you have to accept the premise that Dr.Strange could just rewind time at will or freeze time at will or that Thanos could just use the reality stone to create a new reality where he has all the stones instead of having to actually acquire them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Polycosm 05/23/18 3:58:38 AM #103:	Thanos broke Strange's mirror dimension with no effort at all. We also saw Kaecilius break free of the effects of the time stone in the Dr. Strange movie. It's not safe to assume that Strange can simply use a portal to cut through Thanos or use the time stone in a straightforward manner to defeat him. Possible reasons the snap had to happen: -it's the only way to permanently fry the gauntlet -Thanos isn't vulnerable until he thinks he's won -It will ultimately unravel Thanos and destroy his motivation from the inside (it cost him "everything") Strange could plausibly see past the snap if he isn't fully dead, but trapped inside the soul stone. --- BKSheikah owned me so thoroughly in the 2017 guru contest, I'd swear he used the Lens of Truth to pick his bracket. (thengamer.com/guru) <cite>Polycosm posted [p:901833526] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote>Thanos broke Strange's mirror dimension with no effort at all. We also saw Kaecilius break free of the effects of the time stone in the Dr. Strange movie. It's not safe to assume that Strange can simply use a portal to cut through Thanos or use the time stone in a straightforward manner to defeat him. Possible reasons the snap had to happen: -it's the only way to permanently fry the gauntlet -Thanos isn't vulnerable until he thinks he's won -It will ultimately unravel Thanos and destroy his motivation from the inside (it cost him "everything") Strange could plausibly see past the snap if he isn't fully dead, but trapped inside the soul stone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 05/23/18 4:11:49 AM #104:	Polycosm posted... Thanos broke Strange's mirror dimension with no effort at all. We also saw Kaecilius break free of the effects of the time stone in the Dr. Strange movie. It's not safe to assume that Strange can simply use a portal to cut through Thanos or use the time stone in a straightforward manner to defeat him. Possible reasons the snap had to happen: -it's the only way to permanently fry the gauntlet -Thanos isn't vulnerable until he thinks he's won -It will ultimately unravel Thanos and destroy his motivation from the inside (it cost him "everything") Strange could plausibly see past the snap if he isn't fully dead, but trapped inside the soul stone. Oh my God. These explanations for obvious plot holes are even worse than the actual plotholes themselves. How many ridiculous explanations do people have to pull from the deepest parts of their asses before people just see the movie for what it is. An entertaining blockbuster with terrible writing, pretty much on the same level of the Transformer movies tbh. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:901833764] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Polycosm posted...</cite> <quote>Thanos broke Strange's mirror dimension with no effort at all. We also saw Kaecilius break free of the effects of the time stone in the Dr. Strange movie. It's not safe to assume that Strange can simply use a portal to cut through Thanos or use the time stone in a straightforward manner to defeat him. Possible reasons the snap had to happen: -it's the only way to permanently fry the gauntlet -Thanos isn't vulnerable until he thinks he's won -It will ultimately unravel Thanos and destroy his motivation from the inside (it cost him "everything") Strange could plausibly see past the snap if he isn't fully dead, but trapped inside the soul stone.</quote> Oh my God. These explanations for obvious plot holes are even worse than the actual plotholes themselves. How many ridiculous explanations do people have to pull from the deepest parts of their asses before people just see the movie for what it is. An entertaining blockbuster with terrible writing, pretty much on the same level of the Transformer movies tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 05/23/18 4:15:49 AM #105:	"they didn't explicitly say it in the movie, it cannot be possible" i bet you're a BLAST at parties lmfao --- https://imgur.com/kpXTakw https://imgur.com/Pto3yPa http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:901833831] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote>"they didn't explicitly say it in the movie, it cannot be possible" i bet you're a BLAST at parties lmfao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 05/23/18 4:20:08 AM #106:	YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... "they didn't explicitly say it in the movie, it cannot be possible" i bet you're a BLAST at parties lmfao No, them saying they didn't explicitly say it in the movie is their explanation for why Thanos didnt just solo the shit out of everyone with the reality stone. Or why Strange didn't just use the time stone to freeze time take the stones from Thanos and kill him. Or any other number of possible things they should have and logically would have done if the movie was logically consistent. I'm telling them to apply that same logic to their braindead explanation for why Strange was able to see past his own death even though the movies don't explicitly state that. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:901833901] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote>"they didn't explicitly say it in the movie, it cannot be possible" i bet you're a BLAST at parties lmfao</quote> No, them saying they didn't explicitly say it in the movie is their explanation for why Thanos didnt just solo the shit out of everyone with the reality stone. Or why Strange didn't just use the time stone to freeze time take the stones from Thanos and kill him. Or any other number of possible things they should have and logically would have done if the movie was logically consistent. I'm telling them to apply that same logic to their braindead explanation for why Strange was able to see past his own death even though the movies don't explicitly state that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 05/23/18 4:24:10 AM #107:	What's even worse is that Captain America is able to catch Thanos' hand and put up a fight against his strength, yet Thanos was shown to be stronger than the Hulk. Suddenly Captain America has Hulk level strength? Lol --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:901833974] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote>What's even worse is that Captain America is able to catch Thanos' hand and put up a fight against his strength, yet Thanos was shown to be stronger than the Hulk. Suddenly Captain America has Hulk level strength? Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 05/23/18 4:25:33 AM #108:	Howl posted... What's even worse is that Captain America is able to catch Thanos' hand and put up a fight against his strength, yet Thanos was shown to be stronger than the Hulk. Suddenly Captain America has Hulk level strength? Lol ...and then he gets BTFO by the other hand almost effortlessly that wasn't meant to showcase that captain america was suddenly strong, it was to show that no matter how strong the avengers are, thanos can beat them keep giving us your interpretations of all the key scenes from the movie so we can understand more how you didn't understand anything --- https://imgur.com/kpXTakw https://imgur.com/Pto3yPa http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:901833995] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>What's even worse is that Captain America is able to catch Thanos' hand and put up a fight against his strength, yet Thanos was shown to be stronger than the Hulk. Suddenly Captain America has Hulk level strength? Lol</quote> ...and then he gets BTFO by the other hand almost effortlessly that wasn't meant to showcase that captain america was suddenly strong, it was to show that no matter how strong the avengers are, thanos can beat them keep giving us your interpretations of all the key scenes from the movie so we can understand more how you didn't understand anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Polycosm 05/23/18 4:30:09 AM #109:	Howl posted... Polycosm posted... Thanos broke Strange's mirror dimension with no effort at all. We also saw Kaecilius break free of the effects of the time stone in the Dr. Strange movie. It's not safe to assume that Strange can simply use a portal to cut through Thanos or use the time stone in a straightforward manner to defeat him. Possible reasons the snap had to happen: -it's the only way to permanently fry the gauntlet -Thanos isn't vulnerable until he thinks he's won -It will ultimately unravel Thanos and destroy his motivation from the inside (it cost him "everything") Strange could plausibly see past the snap if he isn't fully dead, but trapped inside the soul stone. Oh my God. These explanations for obvious plot holes are even worse than the actual plotholes themselves. How many ridiculous explanations do people have to pull from the deepest parts of their asses before people just see the movie for what it is. An entertaining blockbuster with terrible writing, pretty much on the same level of the Transformer movies tbh. The idea of characters being sucked into the soul stone is hinted at in the movie (when Thanos speaks with Gamora after the snap) and it happens explicitly in the Infinity Gauntlet comic. --- BKSheikah owned me so thoroughly in the 2017 guru contest, I'd swear he used the Lens of Truth to pick his bracket. (thengamer.com/guru) <cite>Polycosm posted [p:901834064] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Polycosm posted...</cite> <quote>Thanos broke Strange's mirror dimension with no effort at all. We also saw Kaecilius break free of the effects of the time stone in the Dr. Strange movie. It's not safe to assume that Strange can simply use a portal to cut through Thanos or use the time stone in a straightforward manner to defeat him. Possible reasons the snap had to happen: -it's the only way to permanently fry the gauntlet -Thanos isn't vulnerable until he thinks he's won -It will ultimately unravel Thanos and destroy his motivation from the inside (it cost him "everything") Strange could plausibly see past the snap if he isn't fully dead, but trapped inside the soul stone.</quote> Oh my God. These explanations for obvious plot holes are even worse than the actual plotholes themselves. How many ridiculous explanations do people have to pull from the deepest parts of their asses before people just see the movie for what it is. An entertaining blockbuster with terrible writing, pretty much on the same level of the Transformer movies tbh.</quote> The idea of characters being sucked into the soul stone is hinted at in the movie (when Thanos speaks with Gamora after the snap) and it happens explicitly in the Infinity Gauntlet comic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 05/23/18 4:31:23 AM #110:	YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... Howl posted... What's even worse is that Captain America is able to catch Thanos' hand and put up a fight against his strength, yet Thanos was shown to be stronger than the Hulk. Suddenly Captain America has Hulk level strength? Lol ...and then he gets BTFO by the other hand almost effortlessly that wasn't meant to showcase that captain america was suddenly strong, it was to show that no matter how strong the avengers are, thanos can beat them keep giving us your interpretations of all the key scenes from the movie so we can understand more how you didn't understand anything Captain America shouldn't have even been able to catch his hand at all. It would have been like an ant catching the foot of a human and then the human having to use their other foot to crush them. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:901834084] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> What's even worse is that Captain America is able to catch Thanos' hand and put up a fight against his strength, yet Thanos was shown to be stronger than the Hulk. Suddenly Captain America has Hulk level strength? Lol</quote> ...and then he gets BTFO by the other hand almost effortlessly that wasn't meant to showcase that captain america was suddenly strong, it was to show that no matter how strong the avengers are, thanos can beat them keep giving us your interpretations of all the key scenes from the movie so we can understand more how you didn't understand anything</quote> Captain America shouldn't have even been able to catch his hand at all. It would have been like an ant catching the foot of a human and then the human having to use their other foot to crush them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 05/23/18 4:33:17 AM #111:	Howl posted... Captain America shouldn't have even been able to catch his hand at all. Hence the bemused expression by Thanos which, again, was rendered pointless because even with all that strength, Cap still gets BTFO in one punch from the other hand --- https://imgur.com/kpXTakw https://imgur.com/Pto3yPa http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:901834119] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Captain America shouldn't have even been able to catch his hand at all. </quote> Hence the bemused expression by Thanos which, again, was rendered pointless because even with all that strength, Cap still gets BTFO in one punch from the other hand</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Wombat 05/23/18 5:37:24 AM #112:	dave_is_slick posted... awesome999 posted... What if they send it near a black hole where the gravity eventually gets it Jesus fucking... IT'S NEVER SHOWN TO BE ABLE TO TELEPORT OFF PLANET! IT'S WHY HE NEEDED THE DONUT SHIP TO GET BACK TO EARTH!! FUCK! It's that deep? Relax kiddo, your blood pressure will thank you. --- Slayer>Megadeth>Amon Amarth>Alice in Chains>Every other Metal band>Other Genres of music>A bagpipe full of cats>>>>Country music <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:901835257] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>awesome999 posted...</cite> <quote>What if they send it near a black hole where the gravity eventually gets it</quote> Jesus fucking... IT'S NEVER SHOWN TO BE ABLE TO TELEPORT OFF PLANET! IT'S WHY HE NEEDED THE DONUT SHIP TO GET BACK TO EARTH!! FUCK!</quote> It's that deep? Relax kiddo, your blood pressure will thank you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SavenForever 05/23/18 6:09:14 AM #113:	YoshitoKikuchi posted... SavenForever posted... YoshitoKikuchi posted... SavenForever posted... YoshitoKikuchi posted... SavenForever posted... It wasn't apart of the one timeline that would work, duh. That doesn't explain anything. Yeah it does, he said there is only one possible timeline to stop Thanos. Strange obviously had seen that putting his hand through another portal would not work. But why? At least Strange could have said a line or two as to why certain strategies wouldn't work. If he mentioned it out loud, it probably would've been one of those outcomes where no one wins. They would have been, and they definitely didn't need him to explain dozens, but at least one or two glaring scenarios. One simple change can affect an entire outcome. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat --- https://imgur.com/aFt7pKH <cite>SavenForever posted [p:901835727] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote>It wasn't apart of the one timeline that would work, duh.</quote> That doesn't explain anything.</quote> Yeah it does, he said there is only one possible timeline to stop Thanos. Strange obviously had seen that putting his hand through another portal would not work.</quote> But why? At least Strange could have said a line or two as to why certain strategies wouldn't work.</quote> If he mentioned it out loud, it probably would've been one of those outcomes where no one wins.</quote> They would have been, and they definitely didn't need him to explain dozens, but at least one or two glaring scenarios.</quote> One simple change can affect an entire outcome. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 05/23/18 10:51:45 AM #114:	Howl posted... No possible way that Strange could have viewed realities that included future events that included Thanos rewinding time in a million and change possibilities. That would have to include quntillions of possibilities for that to be true. It could just show Thanos using the Time Stone or worse, Strange's future just...ending. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 4 Stars and IndieReader Approved:https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N-ebook/dp/B076R7DCHN <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:901844465] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>No possible way that Strange could have viewed realities that included future events that included Thanos rewinding time in a million and change possibilities. That would have to include quntillions of possibilities for that to be true.</quote> It could just show Thanos using the Time Stone or worse, Strange's future just...ending.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 05/23/18 2:55:37 PM #115:	Darmik posted... I've never seen another movie have so much "why didn't the character just do this thing" criticism thrown towards it until now. Even though there actually is an explanation stated in the movie. It doesn't work. Whatever fan fiction win scenario you dreamed up didn't work. Oh well. It's more that the explanation is lazy as fuck. Every single argument you can make about what they should or shouldn't do comes down to "that's not the way Strange saw it so it can't happen" It shuts down all debate. Every thing happened by Strange's design and will be ok in the end because of that. The writers took the easy way out. That's all there is to it. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:901857197] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I've never seen another movie have so much "why didn't the character just do this thing" criticism thrown towards it until now. Even though there actually is an explanation stated in the movie. It doesn't work. Whatever fan fiction win scenario you dreamed up didn't work. Oh well.</quote> It's more that the explanation is lazy as fuck. Every single argument you can make about what they should or shouldn't do comes down to "that's not the way Strange saw it so it can't happen" It shuts down all debate. Every thing happened by Strange's design and will be ok in the end because of that. The writers took the easy way out. That's all there is to it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 05/23/18 3:06:37 PM #116:	Every single argument you can make about what they should or shouldn't do comes down to "that's not the way Strange saw it so it can't happen" More like, "Strange saw the only possibility in which they won, so they took that option" --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:901857732] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><quote>Every single argument you can make about what they should or shouldn't do comes down to "that's not the way Strange saw it so it can't happen"</quote> More like, "Strange saw the only possibility in which they won, so they took that option"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoshitoKikuchi 05/23/18 3:30:55 PM #117:	Guess we'll have to see next movie. --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead https://imgur.com/YQpeyD3 <cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted [p:901859017] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote>Guess we'll have to see next movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 05/23/18 7:22:56 PM #118:	LightningAce11 posted... The fact that so many people are arguing against it means that it was poor writing. no, it means nerds are insufferable. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:901871817] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightningAce11 posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that so many people are arguing against it means that it was poor writing. </quote> no, it means nerds are insufferable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 05/24/18 6:11:07 AM #119:	I Like Toast posted... LightningAce11 posted... The fact that so many people are arguing against it means that it was poor writing. no, it means nerds are insufferable. Funny there weren't thosands of "insufferable nerds" questioning Black Panther's writing 5 months ago when it came out. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:901894587] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightningAce11 posted...</cite> <quote> The fact that so many people are arguing against it means that it was poor writing. </quote> no, it means nerds are insufferable.</quote> Funny there weren't thosands of "insufferable nerds" questioning Black Panther's writing 5 months ago when it came out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 05/24/18 11:05:54 AM #120:	Howl posted... I Like Toast posted... LightningAce11 posted... The fact that so many people are arguing against it means that it was poor writing. no, it means nerds are insufferable. Funny there weren't thosands of "insufferable nerds" questioning Black Panther's writing 5 months ago when it came out. ...yes there was. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 4 Stars and IndieReader Approved:https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N-ebook/dp/B076R7DCHN <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:901904128] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightningAce11 posted...</cite> <quote> The fact that so many people are arguing against it means that it was poor writing. </quote> no, it means nerds are insufferable.</quote> Funny there weren't thosands of "insufferable nerds" questioning Black Panther's writing 5 months ago when it came out.</quote> ...yes there was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 05/24/18 11:13:17 AM #121:	Just portal cut off his head. Take gauntlet off corpse. Profit. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 15008 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:901904451] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote>Just portal cut off his head. Take gauntlet off corpse. Profit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 05/24/18 11:55:55 AM #122:	Okay so did we all forget Thanos easily broke out of Mirror Dimension and therefore must have some kind of resistance against temporal and dimensional influence due to the Space and Reality Stones --- https://imgur.com/kpXTakw https://imgur.com/Pto3yPa http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:901906476] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote>Okay so did we all forget Thanos easily broke out of Mirror Dimension and therefore must have some kind of resistance against temporal and dimensional influence due to the Space and Reality Stones</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/24/18 12:18:20 PM #123:	@Howl The ancient one used her own ability to not be able to see past her death. Dr. Strange used the time stone to see the outcome, obviously the time stone does not get destroyed which is why it's able to see past Strange's death. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:901907622] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote>@Howl The ancient one used her own ability to not be able to see past her death. Dr. Strange used the time stone to see the outcome, obviously the time stone does not get destroyed which is why it's able to see past Strange's death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raikuro 05/24/18 11:48:42 PM #124:	Ok, what exactly was Strange doing with the time stone to see the different outcomes? I figured it was like in his movie where he can keep rewinding time until he gets a favorable outcome. So how does he see the future of a timeline in which he loses possession of the ability to rewind? Why didn't he stick with the one timeline he saw them succeed? To do it again slightly better? I have to assume I'm just misunderstanding what the time stone can do because otherwise it makes no sense. Or maybe the next movie will address it... <cite>Raikuro posted [p:901944332] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote>Ok, what exactly was Strange doing with the time stone to see the different outcomes? I figured it was like in his movie where he can keep rewinding time until he gets a favorable outcome. So how does he see the future of a timeline in which he loses possession of the ability to rewind? Why didn't he stick with the one timeline he saw them succeed? To do it again slightly better? I have to assume I'm just misunderstanding what the time stone can do because otherwise it makes no sense. Or maybe the next movie will address it...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 05/24/18 11:54:30 PM #125:	Raikuro posted... So how does he see the future of a timeline in which he loses possession of the ability to rewind? Because he saw it while he still had the stone. It seems he doesn't need to be able to rewind just to "see" the outcomes. Raikuro posted... Why didn't he stick with the one timeline he saw them succeed? He did. That's why he gave up the stone. Raikuro posted... To do it again slightly better? Because of 14 million possibilities, there was only one. Raikuro posted... Or maybe the next movie will address it... I'm sure it will. Time travel works 100% properly in exactly 0% of movies. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (2-4): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:901944611] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Raikuro posted...</cite> <quote>So how does he see the future of a timeline in which he loses possession of the ability to rewind?</quote> Because he saw it while he still had the stone. It seems he doesn't need to be able to rewind just to "see" the outcomes. <cite>Raikuro posted...</cite> <quote>Why didn't he stick with the one timeline he saw them succeed?</quote> He did. That's why he gave up the stone. <cite>Raikuro posted...</cite> <quote>To do it again slightly better?</quote> Because of 14 million possibilities, there was only one. <cite>Raikuro posted...</cite> <quote>Or maybe the next movie will address it...</quote> I'm sure it will. Time travel works 100% properly in exactly 0% of movies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raikuro 05/24/18 11:59:39 PM #126:	Muffinz0rz posted... He did. That's why he gave up the stone. No he did not stick with the one timeline, because after viewing it he would have to rewind time to tell them he saw the one possible win. <cite>Raikuro posted [p:901944837] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>He did. That's why he gave up the stone.</quote> No he did not stick with the one timeline, because after viewing it he would have to rewind time to tell them he saw the one possible win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/25/18 12:18:49 AM #127:	Raikuro posted... Muffinz0rz posted... He did. That's why he gave up the stone. No he did not stick with the one timeline, because after viewing it he would have to rewind time to tell them he saw the one possible win. He's using the time stone to see visions of the future I'm pretty sure. He's not rewinding time. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:901945650] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Raikuro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>He did. That's why he gave up the stone.</quote> No he did not stick with the one timeline, because after viewing it he would have to rewind time to tell them he saw the one possible win.</quote> He's using the time stone to see visions of the future I'm pretty sure. He's not rewinding time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/25/18 12:34:14 AM #128:	Raikuro posted... Ok, what exactly was Strange doing with the time stone to see the different outcomes? I figured it was like in his movie where he can keep rewinding time until he gets a favorable outcome. So how does he see the future of a timeline in which he loses possession of the ability to rewind? Why didn't he stick with the one timeline he saw them succeed? To do it again slightly better? I have to assume I'm just misunderstanding what the time stone can do because otherwise it makes no sense. Or maybe the next movie will address it... You need to rewatch Dr. Strange. That's not really what is happening at the end of the movie. In Dr. Strange, he is legitimately rewinding time. In Infinity War he is actually looking into the future. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:901946275] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Raikuro posted...</cite> <quote>Ok, what exactly was Strange doing with the time stone to see the different outcomes? I figured it was like in his movie where he can keep rewinding time until he gets a favorable outcome. So how does he see the future of a timeline in which he loses possession of the ability to rewind? Why didn't he stick with the one timeline he saw them succeed? To do it again slightly better? I have to assume I'm just misunderstanding what the time stone can do because otherwise it makes no sense. Or maybe the next movie will address it...</quote> You need to rewatch Dr. Strange. That's not really what is happening at the end of the movie. In Dr. Strange, he is legitimately rewinding time. In Infinity War he is actually looking into the future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 05/25/18 12:41:21 AM #129:	Raikuro posted... No he did not stick with the one timeline, because after viewing it he would have to rewind time to tell them he saw the one possible win. Telling people the outcome is altering the timeline. Say the one outcome is like "okay everyone grab his hand," so that leads to one of them being reckless when grabbing it and ending up dying early instead of letting it play out. The very act of telling them the outcome effectively changes the outcome. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (2-4): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:901946524] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Raikuro posted...</cite> <quote>No he did not stick with the one timeline, because after viewing it he would have to rewind time to tell them he saw the one possible win.</quote> Telling people the outcome is altering the timeline. Say the one outcome is like "okay everyone grab his hand," so that leads to one of them being reckless when grabbing it and ending up dying early instead of letting it play out. The very act of telling them the outcome effectively changes the outcome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raikuro 05/25/18 1:01:20 AM #130:	IfGodCouldDie posted... You need to rewatch Dr. Strange. That's not really what is happening at the end of the movie. In Dr. Strange, he is legitimately rewinding time. In Infinity War he is actually looking into the future. Why would I need to rewatch it if I was accurate in what he did in that movie? The psychic premonitions were never used until Infinity War, hence the confusion. <cite>Raikuro posted [p:901947155] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote>You need to rewatch Dr. Strange. That's not really what is happening at the end of the movie. In Dr. Strange, he is legitimately rewinding time. In Infinity War he is actually looking into the future.</quote> Why would I need to rewatch it if I was accurate in what he did in that movie? The psychic premonitions were never used until Infinity War, hence the confusion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 05/25/18 1:13:21 AM #131:	YoshitoKikuchi posted... LightningAce11 posted... Why wouldn't that work, though? All we got is a cheap cop out. I wish we would have gotten a scene where he sees all of those scenarios and the other characters say "What if we...", and then Doctor Strange explains why it wouldn't work. Totally unnecessary and far too overt. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:901947554] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote><cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightningAce11 posted...</cite> <quote>Why wouldn't that work, though? All we got is a cheap cop out.</quote> I wish we would have gotten a scene where he sees all of those scenarios and the other characters say "What if we...", and then Doctor Strange explains why it wouldn't work.</quote> Totally unnecessary and far too overt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/25/18 1:16:23 AM #132:	What if Star Wars had a scene where Obi-wan sat down and explained to Luke why it makes more sense to have a sword fight instead of simply using the Force to take people down who are weaker than you. Then he can go into detail about the limits of the Force and boil down exactly what will work and when it will work. People like this stuff in movies yeah? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:901947665] in In the sce... [t:76632384]...</cite> <quote>What if Star Wars had a scene where Obi-wan sat down and explained to Luke why it makes more sense to have a sword fight instead of simply using the Force to take people down who are weaker than you. Then he can go into detail about the limits of the Force and boil down exactly what will work and when it will work. People like this stuff in movies yeah?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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