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KiwiTerraRizing 05/19/18 2:58:37 PM #1:	Is that its used by companies to avoid paying decent wages. I absolutely believe there needs to be a safety net. However, companies that know their employees can get food stamps, housing etc. and it becomes basically part of the benefit package. So my tax dollars are subsidizing corporations profits. The problem is that I have no faith they would increase wages if these programs went away. Workers have no power in this country anymore. Its a difficult issue. --- The FAM <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:901633114] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote>Is that its used by companies to avoid paying decent wages. I absolutely believe there needs to be a safety net. However, companies that know their employees can get food stamps, housing etc. and it becomes basically part of the benefit package. So my tax dollars are subsidizing corporations profits. The problem is that I have no faith they would increase wages if these programs went away. Workers have no power in this country anymore. Its a difficult issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 05/19/18 3:44:26 PM #2:	It's almost like a century of anti-union propaganda has hurt worker rights. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:901635006] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote>It's almost like a century of anti-union propaganda has hurt worker rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchiePeck 05/19/18 3:46:54 PM #3:	KILBOTz posted... It's almost like a century of anti-union propaganda has hurt worker rights. Unions? Socialists that ruin everything! bemoans years of stagnating wages <cite>ArchiePeck posted [p:901635104] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>KILBOTz posted...</cite> <quote>It's almost like a century of anti-union propaganda has hurt worker rights.</quote> Unions? Socialists that ruin everything! bemoans years of stagnating wages</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 05/19/18 3:48:22 PM #4:	Its a shit program that lazy fucks use and abuse --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901635169] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote>Its a shit program that lazy fucks use and abuse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/19/18 3:50:06 PM #5:	KingCrabCake posted... Its a shit program that lazy fucks use and abuse Needs of the many outweigh the abuses of a few --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:901635230] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Its a shit program that lazy fucks use and abuse</quote> Needs of the many outweigh the abuses of a few</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad_Chad 05/19/18 3:52:00 PM #6:	I think everyone should be able to claim 5 years of welfare or take a smaller lump sum. After that, you can join the army or freeze under an overpass or something. --- Sup, bro?! <cite>Rad_Chad posted [p:901635295] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote>I think everyone should be able to claim 5 years of welfare or take a smaller lump sum. After that, you can join the army or freeze under an overpass or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Big_Nabendu 05/19/18 3:53:42 PM #7:	I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals --- The embrace of the Dark is gentle. Let it absorb your sorrows, forever. \[T]/ Owner of the 500 board and Leader of sunbro board GT Nabendu <cite>Big_Nabendu posted [p:901635358] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote>I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 05/19/18 3:54:50 PM #8:	hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... Its a shit program that lazy fucks use and abuse Needs of the many outweigh the abuses of a few Not really. Not my problem if Todd is struggling in life cause he was a lazy idiot in school and cant get a decent job. Hate that the government steals my money and gives it to people as a handout. --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901635410] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Its a shit program that lazy fucks use and abuse</quote> Needs of the many outweigh the abuses of a few</quote> Not really. Not my problem if Todd is struggling in life cause he was a lazy idiot in school and cant get a decent job. Hate that the government steals my money and gives it to people as a handout.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad_Chad 05/19/18 3:55:13 PM #9:	Big_Nabendu posted... I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals Agree. Let the parasites rot. --- Sup, bro?! <cite>Rad_Chad posted [p:901635428] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Big_Nabendu posted...</cite> <quote>I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals</quote> Agree. Let the parasites rot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 05/19/18 3:55:35 PM #10:	Big_Nabendu posted... I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals Nope drug testing is dumb af. Easily beaten. Not accurate. Would only hurt the kids. Cost too damn much. What about alcohol? --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901635452] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Big_Nabendu posted...</cite> <quote>I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals</quote> Nope drug testing is dumb af. Easily beaten. Not accurate. Would only hurt the kids. Cost too damn much. What about alcohol?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/19/18 3:55:48 PM #11:	Big_Nabendu posted... I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals If you enjoy wasting money. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:901635462] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Big_Nabendu posted...</cite> <quote>I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals</quote> If you enjoy wasting money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/19/18 3:56:19 PM #12:	Rad_Chad posted... I think everyone should be able to claim 5 years of welfare or take a smaller lump sum. After that, you can join the army or freeze under an overpass or something. TANF, which is what most people mean by "welfare," is already limited to 5 years over the course of one's life. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:901635482] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rad_Chad posted...</cite> <quote>I think everyone should be able to claim 5 years of welfare or take a smaller lump sum. After that, you can join the army or freeze under an overpass or something.</quote> TANF, which is what most people mean by "welfare," is already limited to 5 years over the course of one's life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 05/19/18 3:56:21 PM #13:	Big_Nabendu posted... I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals Youre losing track of my point. Most people in these programs are working poor, working. Also, child support is not a government program. --- The FAM <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:901635485] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Big_Nabendu posted...</cite> <quote>I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals</quote> Youre losing track of my point. Most people in these programs are working poor, working. Also, child support is not a government program.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeyPuff 05/19/18 3:56:29 PM #14:	KingCrabCake posted... Its a shit program that lazy fucks use and abuse King crab is wishing right now gamefaqs didnt have a censor --- https://imgur.com/anVgnqe Hi, I'm puff_stinks/___ingGorilla https://imgur.com/YtOjPfY Taxin' that ass <cite>HeyPuff posted [p:901635497] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Its a shit program that lazy fucks use and abuse</quote> King crab is wishing right now gamefaqs didnt have a censor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
John_Galt 05/19/18 3:57:59 PM #15:	We need to drastically cut welfare in this country Way too many parasites abusing the system --- Who is John Galt? <cite>John_Galt posted [p:901635557] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote>We need to drastically cut welfare in this country Way too many parasites abusing the system</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 05/19/18 4:00:27 PM #17:	Ex-Kefiroth posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... Its a shit program that lazy fucks use and abuse Needs of the many outweigh the abuses of a few Not really. Not my problem if Todd is struggling in life cause he was a lazy idiot in school and cant get a decent job. Hate that the government steals my money and gives it to people as a handout. If you want to live in a country that lets its people starve, then go ahead; you have plenty to choose from. Nah im good here. Im hoping America wakes up and realizing its bad to constantly take from hard working people HeyPuff posted... KingCrabCake posted... Its a shit program that lazy fucks use and abuse King crab is wishing right now gamefaqs didnt have a censor HeyPuff wishing he could make a good post --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901635658] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ex-Kefiroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Its a shit program that lazy fucks use and abuse</quote> Needs of the many outweigh the abuses of a few</quote> Not really. Not my problem if Todd is struggling in life cause he was a lazy idiot in school and cant get a decent job. Hate that the government steals my money and gives it to people as a handout.</quote> If you want to live in a country that lets its people starve, then go ahead; you have plenty to choose from.</quote> Nah im good here. Im hoping America wakes up and realizing its bad to constantly take from hard working people <cite>HeyPuff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Its a shit program that lazy fucks use and abuse</quote> King crab is wishing right now gamefaqs didnt have a censor</quote> HeyPuff wishing he could make a good post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 05/19/18 4:09:05 PM #19:	Godnorgosh posted... KingCrabCake posted... Im hoping America wakes up and realizing its bad to constantly take from hard working people Same, we need to stop taking from the poor. Yeah we really need to stop taking their hard earn food stamps away --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901636051] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Im hoping America wakes up and realizing its bad to constantly take from hard working people</quote> Same, we need to stop taking from the poor.</quote> Yeah we really need to stop taking their hard earn food stamps away</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 05/19/18 4:31:40 PM #21:	Godnorgosh posted... KingCrabCake posted... Godnorgosh posted... KingCrabCake posted... Im hoping America wakes up and realizing its bad to constantly take from hard working people Same, we need to stop taking from the poor. Yeah we really need to stop taking their hard earn food stamps away Yeah, or just stop making them work for slave wages with no benefits Oh you're using emotional tactics instead of actual facts? Gotcha. Sorry no one is forcing them to do anything. Sorry Scott is only qualified for a Burger King job --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901637092] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Im hoping America wakes up and realizing its bad to constantly take from hard working people</quote> Same, we need to stop taking from the poor.</quote> Yeah we really need to stop taking their hard earn food stamps away</quote> Yeah, or just stop making them work for slave wages with no benefits</quote> Oh you're using emotional tactics instead of actual facts? Gotcha. Sorry no one is forcing them to do anything. Sorry Scott is only qualified for a Burger King job</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 05/19/18 4:39:11 PM #23:	@shockthemonkey posted... Can everyone agree to stop responding to the people trolling this topic? Maybe we could have a real discussion then. My bad didnt mean to respond --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901637458] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>@shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Can everyone agree to stop responding to the people trolling this topic? Maybe we could have a real discussion then.</quote> My bad didnt mean to respond</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CharlesBronson 05/19/18 4:41:29 PM #25:	KiwiTerraRizing posted... However, companies that know their employees can get food stamps, housing etc. not true, if you're a male with no kids you don't qualify for food stamps. The war on men continues. <cite>CharlesBronson posted [p:901637573] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted...</cite> <quote>However, companies that know their employees can get food stamps, housing etc. </quote> not true, if you're a male with no kids you don't qualify for food stamps. The war on men continues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 05/19/18 4:47:28 PM #26:	Godnorgosh posted... KingCrabCake posted... Godnorgosh posted... KingCrabCake posted... Godnorgosh posted... KingCrabCake posted... Im hoping America wakes up and realizing its bad to constantly take from hard working people Same, we need to stop taking from the poor. Yeah we really need to stop taking their hard earn food stamps away Yeah, or just stop making them work for slave wages with no benefits Oh you're using emotional tactics instead of actual facts? Gotcha. Sorry no one is forcing them to do anything. Sorry Scott is only qualified for a Burger King job It is actually a fact, not an emotional tactic, that a large proportion of the US population (not just your friends Todd and Scotty) is in such a predicament. And it has gotten abundantly clear that there is a systemic problem here which includes individuals who are responsible and hard-working. Sorry that you're blind to that. Let us know when you're ready to stop being a temporarily embarrassed millionaire so you can help us fight for your rights as a worker. So its a fact a large proportion of americans are forced to work for free? --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901637892] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Im hoping America wakes up and realizing its bad to constantly take from hard working people</quote> Same, we need to stop taking from the poor.</quote> Yeah we really need to stop taking their hard earn food stamps away</quote> Yeah, or just stop making them work for slave wages with no benefits</quote> Oh you're using emotional tactics instead of actual facts? Gotcha. Sorry no one is forcing them to do anything. Sorry Scott is only qualified for a Burger King job</quote> It is actually a fact, not an emotional tactic, that a large proportion of the US population (not just your friends Todd and Scotty) is in such a predicament. And it has gotten abundantly clear that there is a systemic problem here which includes individuals who are responsible and hard-working. Sorry that you're blind to that. Let us know when you're ready to stop being a temporarily embarrassed millionaire so you can help us fight for your rights as a worker.</quote> So its a fact a large proportion of americans are forced to work for free?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 05/19/18 4:57:09 PM #29:	Godnorgosh posted... No, it's a fact that a large proportion of Americans, including those who depend on their next paycheck to maintain their current standard of living, are stuck in precarious wage labor in which they receive no benefits and may be fired at any time for any reason (or no reason at all). But you said they were making slave wages...and when i called you out on using emotional style tactics to manipulate your point you said i was wrong...hmmm --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901638367] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote> No, it's a fact that a large proportion of Americans, including those who depend on their next paycheck to maintain their current standard of living, are stuck in precarious wage labor in which they receive no benefits and may be fired at any time for any reason (or no reason at all).</quote> But you said they were making slave wages...and when i called you out on using emotional style tactics to manipulate your point you said i was wrong...hmmm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 05/19/18 4:57:17 PM #30:	KILBOTz posted... It's almost like a century of anti-union propaganda has hurt worker rights. The biggest victims of unionization were people of color who were excluded from unions on the basis of their race and screwed out of their ability to compete with the unions by economic regulations and minimum wage. --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:901638369] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>KILBOTz posted...</cite> <quote>It's almost like a century of anti-union propaganda has hurt worker rights.</quote> The biggest victims of unionization were people of color who were excluded from unions on the basis of their race and screwed out of their ability to compete with the unions by economic regulations and minimum wage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 05/19/18 4:59:07 PM #31:	Big_Nabendu posted... I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals As a liberal I agree. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:901638457] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Big_Nabendu posted...</cite> <quote>I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals</quote> As a liberal I agree.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 05/19/18 5:06:57 PM #32:	creativerealms posted... Big_Nabendu posted... I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals As a liberal I agree. IT DOESNT WORK --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901638813] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Big_Nabendu posted...</cite> <quote>I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals</quote> As a liberal I agree.</quote> IT DOESNT WORK</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 05/19/18 5:09:54 PM #34:	Godnorgosh posted... KingCrabCake posted... Godnorgosh posted... No, it's a fact that a large proportion of Americans, including those who depend on their next paycheck to maintain their current standard of living, are stuck in precarious wage labor in which they receive no benefits and may be fired at any time for any reason (or no reason at all). But you said they were making slave wages...and when i called you out on using emotional style tactics to manipulate your point you said i was wrong...hmmm If you think slavery must literally mean working for free, rather than working for (at best) subsistence, then that doesn't make my case "emotional," it just means you're relying on an archaic and overly literal interpretation to defend your view. And the back pedal shuffle is in full work "Guyss i only used this term to stir emotions dont call me out on it" And again no one is forcing anyone to work anywhere. Sorry captain --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901638943] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote> No, it's a fact that a large proportion of Americans, including those who depend on their next paycheck to maintain their current standard of living, are stuck in precarious wage labor in which they receive no benefits and may be fired at any time for any reason (or no reason at all).</quote> But you said they were making slave wages...and when i called you out on using emotional style tactics to manipulate your point you said i was wrong...hmmm</quote> If you think slavery must literally mean working for free, rather than working for (at best) subsistence, then that doesn't make my case "emotional," it just means you're relying on an archaic and overly literal interpretation to defend your view.</quote> And the back pedal shuffle is in full work "Guyss i only used this term to stir emotions dont call me out on it" And again no one is forcing anyone to work anywhere. Sorry captain</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gp1829 05/19/18 5:12:45 PM #36:	Big_Nabendu posted... I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals Your taxes don't pay alimony or child support. Plus I'm willing to bet like most of the people whining muh taxes that you don't even pay any. <cite>gp1829 posted [p:901639058] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Big_Nabendu posted...</cite> <quote>I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals</quote> Your taxes don't pay alimony or child support. Plus I'm willing to bet like most of the people whining muh taxes that you don't even pay any.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 05/19/18 5:15:16 PM #37:	Some people care about other people, some people care about themselves. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:901639149] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote>Some people care about other people, some people care about themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 05/19/18 5:15:20 PM #38:	creativerealms posted... Big_Nabendu posted... I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals As a liberal I agree. As a conservative I disagree. It costs more than it saves, and it's merely a bandaid on a gangrene wound. Abolish child support and people will think twice about who they have kids with. Abolish alimony (and no-fault divorce) and place more emphasis on marital contracts for dictating alimony and divorce terms on a case-by-base basis and enforce them accordingly. Abolish welfare for individuals that are both able-minded and able-bodied - after eliminating red tape, cutting taxes, and reforming the monetary system so that people can do business easier, take home more money, and not be so concerned about it losing value over time. --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:901639150] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Big_Nabendu posted...</cite> <quote>I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals</quote> As a liberal I agree.</quote> As a conservative I disagree. It costs more than it saves, and it's merely a bandaid on a gangrene wound. Abolish child support and people will think twice about who they have kids with. Abolish alimony (and no-fault divorce) and place more emphasis on marital contracts for dictating alimony and divorce terms on a case-by-base basis and enforce them accordingly. Abolish welfare for individuals that are both able-minded and able-bodied - after eliminating red tape, cutting taxes, and reforming the monetary system so that people can do business easier, take home more money, and not be so concerned about it losing value over time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 05/19/18 5:16:08 PM #39:	TheMikh posted... creativerealms posted... Big_Nabendu posted... I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals As a liberal I agree. As a conservative I disagree. It costs more than it saves, and it's merely a bandaid on a gangrene wound. Abolish child support and people will think twice about who they have kids with. Abolish alimony (and no-fault divorce) and place more emphasis on marital contracts for dictating alimony and divorce terms on a case-by-base basis and enforce them accordingly. Abolish welfare for individuals that are both able-minded and able-bodied - after eliminating red tape, cutting taxes, and reforming the monetary system so that people can do business easier, take home more money, and not be so concerned about it losing value over time. As a liberal i agree. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:901639178] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Big_Nabendu posted...</cite> <quote>I think drug tests are needed For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for. Cry liberals</quote> As a liberal I agree.</quote> As a conservative I disagree. It costs more than it saves, and it's merely a bandaid on a gangrene wound. Abolish child support and people will think twice about who they have kids with. Abolish alimony (and no-fault divorce) and place more emphasis on marital contracts for dictating alimony and divorce terms on a case-by-base basis and enforce them accordingly. Abolish welfare for individuals that are both able-minded and able-bodied - after eliminating red tape, cutting taxes, and reforming the monetary system so that people can do business easier, take home more money, and not be so concerned about it losing value over time.</quote> As a liberal i agree.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 05/19/18 5:16:17 PM #40:	Godnorgosh posted... Of course, if you do think slavery can only mean working for free, then it follows that you don't believe slave wages exist, in which case you've probably been irretrievably propagandized and emotionally manipulated yourself. Its the only reason why you used it. You want people to connect slavery to minimum wage as if its comparable. Its not. And only people with no argument or substance uses emotion arguments like that. Again no one is forcing any american to work anywhere. Sorry you used a shitty "analogy" --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901639183] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>Of course, if you do think slavery can only mean working for free, then it follows that you don't believe slave wages exist, in which case you've probably been irretrievably propagandized and emotionally manipulated yourself.</quote> Its the only reason why you used it. You want people to connect slavery to minimum wage as if its comparable. Its not. And only people with no argument or substance uses emotion arguments like that. Again no one is forcing any american to work anywhere. Sorry you used a shitty "analogy"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 05/19/18 5:19:46 PM #42:	Godnorgosh posted... KingCrabCake posted... Godnorgosh posted... KingCrabCake posted... Godnorgosh posted... No, it's a fact that a large proportion of Americans, including those who depend on their next paycheck to maintain their current standard of living, are stuck in precarious wage labor in which they receive no benefits and may be fired at any time for any reason (or no reason at all). But you said they were making slave wages...and when i called you out on using emotional style tactics to manipulate your point you said i was wrong...hmmm If you think slavery must literally mean working for free, rather than working for (at best) subsistence, then that doesn't make my case "emotional," it just means you're relying on an archaic and overly literal interpretation to defend your view. And the back pedal shuffle is in full work "Guyss i only used this term to stir emotions dont call me out on it" And again no one is forcing anyone to work anywhere. Sorry captain No, I used the term because wage slavery is an actual thing with an actual definition. Then you asked me if that means they're working for free, and of course they're not, or it wouldn't be wage slavery, would it? No you used it to connect people making poor decisions to slavery. Its like when people constantly compare people to Hitler. Theyre doing it cause they don't have an argument and want to manipulate your feelings. Again no one is forcing any american to work anywhere ...so nope shit analogy --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901639318] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote> No, it's a fact that a large proportion of Americans, including those who depend on their next paycheck to maintain their current standard of living, are stuck in precarious wage labor in which they receive no benefits and may be fired at any time for any reason (or no reason at all).</quote> But you said they were making slave wages...and when i called you out on using emotional style tactics to manipulate your point you said i was wrong...hmmm</quote> If you think slavery must literally mean working for free, rather than working for (at best) subsistence, then that doesn't make my case "emotional," it just means you're relying on an archaic and overly literal interpretation to defend your view.</quote> And the back pedal shuffle is in full work "Guyss i only used this term to stir emotions dont call me out on it" And again no one is forcing anyone to work anywhere. Sorry captain</quote> No, I used the term because wage slavery is an actual thing with an actual definition. Then you asked me if that means they're working for free, and of course they're not, or it wouldn't be wage slavery, would it?</quote> No you used it to connect people making poor decisions to slavery. Its like when people constantly compare people to Hitler. Theyre doing it cause they don't have an argument and want to manipulate your feelings. Again no one is forcing any american to work anywhere ...so nope shit analogy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 05/19/18 5:22:14 PM #43:	Spooking posted... pops out a child Woman: The government gives me $1000 a month per child! pops out another child Woman: Now I have $2000! This does nothing but continue the chain of counting on the government to take care of you. Those kids will grow up to have the same mindset as their mother. If they must receive welfare, give them enough to support just one person so they're forced to get a job, seek charity, get married, or to otherwise choose between prioritizing themselves or their child(ren). --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:901639416] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>pops out a child Woman: The government gives me $1000 a month per child! pops out another child Woman: Now I have $2000! This does nothing but continue the chain of counting on the government to take care of you. Those kids will grow up to have the same mindset as their mother.</quote> If they must receive welfare, give them enough to support just one person so they're forced to get a job, seek charity, get married, or to otherwise choose between prioritizing themselves or their child(ren).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 05/19/18 5:25:26 PM #46:	Godnorgosh posted... KingCrabCake posted... Godnorgosh posted... Of course, if you do think slavery can only mean working for free, then it follows that you don't believe slave wages exist, in which case you've probably been irretrievably propagandized and emotionally manipulated yourself. Its the only reason why you used it. You want people to connect slavery to minimum wage as if its comparable. Its not. And only people with no argument or substance uses emotion arguments like that. Again no one is forcing any american to work anywhere. Sorry you used a shitty "analogy" So is it your contention that anyone not literally working for free can't be a slave? Just wanting to get clear on your view. My contention is that your statement is 100% wrong and ignorant. And no matter how many times you move the goal posts it wont change it. You said a "a large % of amercians are making slave wages" they are not. Not even close to being true. Get over it --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:901639539] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>Of course, if you do think slavery can only mean working for free, then it follows that you don't believe slave wages exist, in which case you've probably been irretrievably propagandized and emotionally manipulated yourself.</quote> Its the only reason why you used it. You want people to connect slavery to minimum wage as if its comparable. Its not. And only people with no argument or substance uses emotion arguments like that. Again no one is forcing any american to work anywhere. Sorry you used a shitty "analogy"</quote> So is it your contention that anyone not literally working for free can't be a slave? Just wanting to get clear on your view.</quote> My contention is that your statement is 100% wrong and ignorant. And no matter how many times you move the goal posts it wont change it. You said a "a large % of amercians are making slave wages" they are not. Not even close to being true. Get over it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 05/19/18 5:31:35 PM #49:	KiwiTerraRizing posted... Is that its used by companies to avoid paying decent wages. It's really not. Let's run a thought experiment: Remove every welfare program in the US. Now pretend like you are a low wage earner who was previously on welfare. You are now receiving less total money every month. How does this make your employer give you more money? It doesn't. If anything, you are now even more desperate for every penny you make. You are now even less able to quit your job. You are now even more at the mercy of that low wage. What are you going to do, demand a raise or you quit? Then you will have no income and no welfare. You say you need a raise to survive? Your employer can just fire you and hire someone else who knows how to "survive" on less. So this really is all just a big misconception. You could eliminate every welfare program in the US and there's no reason why single employer would have to give a single employee a penny more, unless it's because they feel bad for them. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:901639773] in My biggest... [t:76624287]...</cite> <quote><cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted...</cite> <quote>Is that its used by companies to avoid paying decent wages. </quote> It's really not. Let's run a thought experiment: Remove every welfare program in the US. Now pretend like you are a low wage earner who was previously on welfare. You are now receiving less total money every month. How does this make your employer give you more money? It doesn't. If anything, you are now even more desperate for every penny you make. You are now even less able to quit your job. You are now even more at the mercy of that low wage. What are you going to do, demand a raise or you quit? Then you will have no income and no welfare. You say you need a raise to survive? Your employer can just fire you and hire someone else who knows how to "survive" on less. So this really is all just a big misconception. You could eliminate every welfare program in the US and there's no reason why single employer would have to give a single employee a penny more, unless it's because they feel bad for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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