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KingCrabCake
05/19/18 5:35:04 PM
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@shockthemonkey posted...
Godnorgosh posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Godnorgosh posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Godnorgosh posted...


No, it's a fact that a large proportion of Americans, including those who depend on their next paycheck to maintain their current standard of living, are stuck in precarious wage labor in which they receive no benefits and may be fired at any time for any reason (or no reason at all).


But you said they were making slave wages...and when i called you out on using emotional style tactics to manipulate your point you said i was wrong...hmmm


If you think slavery must literally mean working for free, rather than working for (at best) subsistence, then that doesn't make my case "emotional," it just means you're relying on an archaic and overly literal interpretation to defend your view.


And the back pedal shuffle is in full work

"Guyss i only used this term to stir emotions dont call me out on it"

And again no one is forcing anyone to work anywhere. Sorry captain


No, I used the term because wage slavery is an actual thing with an actual definition. Then you asked me if that means they're working for free, and of course they're not, or it wouldn't be wage slavery, would it?

Dude youre getting trolled; he isnt having an honest discussion with you.


No he's not. Please dont speak for me
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KingCrabCake
05/19/18 5:35:51 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Oh, so you think the only reason anyone in the US is poor is that they make bad decisions? That's the only factor in your view?


I think a large % of americans arent working slave wages. Because.....they're not.
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TrevorBlack79
05/19/18 5:37:59 PM
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CharlesBronson posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
However, companies that know their employees can get food stamps, housing etc.

not true, if you're a male with no kids you don't qualify for food stamps. The war on men continues.


Objectively wrong. I qualified for and received EBT as a single man during the recession.
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KingCrabCake
05/19/18 5:48:56 PM
#56:


Godnorgosh posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
If youre ever unsure if someone is trolling, check to see if they repeated tag someone who has dont tag me in their sig.


Got it, thanks.


Yeah sorry for tagging someone who is directly talking about me . *eyeroll*
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The-Apostle
05/19/18 7:09:10 PM
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Big_Nabendu posted...
I think drug tests are needed
For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for.
Cry liberals

I agree. These kinds of programs should only be available for those that need it. Those that don't can get a job...
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lasergun
05/19/18 7:10:25 PM
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My issue with welfare is that it's not giving me enough money to truly live off of. How do you improve yourself and get out of this situation on only 120 dollars every two weeks pewpew
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tennisdude818
05/19/18 7:15:54 PM
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My biggest issues with social welfare in the USA is that it's theft, and it encourages more single motherhood.
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KingCrabCake
05/19/18 7:29:30 PM
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@The-Apostle posted...
@Big_Nabendu posted...
I think drug tests are needed
For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for.
Cry liberals

I agree. These kinds of programs should only be available for those that need it. Those that don't can get a job...

Again it doesn't work
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The-Apostle
05/19/18 7:46:53 PM
#61:


KingCrabCake posted...
The-Apostle posted...
@Big_Nabendu posted...
I think drug tests are needed
For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for.
Cry liberals

I agree. These kinds of programs should only be available for those that need it. Those that don't can get a job...

Again it doesn't work


The reason it doesn't is because people who don't need it are able to easily get it while people who do need it have to fight for it. I know from personal experience.
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Big_Nabendu
05/19/18 7:53:12 PM
#62:


KingCrabCake posted...
@The-Apostle posted...
@Big_Nabendu posted...
I think drug tests are needed
For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for.
Cry liberals

I agree. These kinds of programs should only be available for those that need it. Those that don't can get a job...

Again it doesn't work


Obviously my taxes don't pay for child support or alimony. But it does pay for welfare, food stamps, unemployment,social security etc. The three biggest categories of expenditures are: Major health programs, such as Medicare and Medicaid. Also social security.

But if some chick cheats on her ol man takes the kids and then uses the child support and alimony money on drugs and getting her nails done then thats a huge problem. You got motherfuckers who are on food stamps, welfare, and unemployment and driving nice ass cars. The system is bullshit and needs to be changed.

So drug test the bastards. Fuck em
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KingCrabCake
05/19/18 8:01:26 PM
#63:


Big_Nabendu posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
@The-Apostle posted...
@Big_Nabendu posted...
I think drug tests are needed
For child support/alimony, welfare, anything that pleas for a handout that my taxes pay for.
Cry liberals

I agree. These kinds of programs should only be available for those that need it. Those that don't can get a job...

Again it doesn't work


Obviously my taxes don't pay for child support or alimony. But it does pay for welfare, food stamps, unemployment,social security etc. The three biggest categories of expenditures are: Major health programs, such as Medicare and Medicaid. Also social security.

But if some chick cheats on her ol man takes the kids and then uses the child support and alimony money on drugs and getting her nails done then thats a huge problem. You got motherfuckers who are on food stamps, welfare, and unemployment and driving nice ass cars. The system is bullshit and needs to be changed.

So drug test the bastards. Fuck em


It doesnt fucking work.

1. Costs more to drug test than to give out the money or stamps.

2. Theyre easily beaten and not even accurate.

3. You're only going to harm the kids.

4. You're willing to punish the guy smoking weed but any participant that smokes cigs or drinks will be fine.
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NinjaWarrior455
05/19/18 8:01:54 PM
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Hope you're fine wasting even more of your tax dollars to catch a marginal amount of people abusing the system! But fuck all the people that don't abuse it, right?
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nicklebro
05/19/18 10:33:54 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Hope you're fine wasting even more of your tax dollars to catch a marginal amount of people abusing the system! But fuck all the people that don't abuse it, right?

Yeah it's crazy how many conservatives haven't figured this out yet. But when right wing propaganda newais filling their heads with bullshit like the belief that most people on welfare are abusing it, or that drug testing wouldnt be completely counter productive, and most of all that getting rid of these social safety nets would be good for the country well it's hard to even have a mature discussion with people like that. They're usually too far gone and their arguments are all based on completely false premises.
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