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You can like this all you want but it is 100% an agenda driven creative decision.
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Suchomimus posted...

You can like this all you want but it is 100% an agenda driven creative decision.

Dunno man. Dude wears a cape.
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Honestly, unless Lando is straight up taking it up the ass on camera I couldn't give two shits.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Honestly, unless Lando is straight up taking it up the ass on camera I couldn't give two shits.

This is how I feel at the end of the day about the film itself, but at the same time I feel there is a real problem with men of today that literally think Billy Dee Williams came off as anything but a smooth lady killer in Empire Strikes Back.

It's a real testament to just how fucking out of touch with reality they are.

It's funny because all of this is because Lando calls Han 'baby' and that's about it.
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I'm not upset. It totally fits his character.

I'd just rather that they made him bisexual in a remake instead of continuing the original series and retroactively making him bi. It'd kinda be like if the Rocky movies decided that Apollo Creed had an affair with his sparring partner.

Skye Reynolds posted...

I'm not upset. It totally fits his character.

I'd just rather that they made him bisexual in a remake instead of continuing the original series and retroactively making him bi. It'd kinda be like if the Rocky movies decided that Apollo Creed had an affair with his sparring partner.

Did they ever state that Apollo Creed had a son in the original movies?

If the gaps are there they can potentially be filled. I'm not sure how you could handle anything similar to this with an attitude like this. How did you handle stuff like Boba Fett in the prequels?
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Honestly, unless Lando is straight up taking it up the ass on camera I couldn't give two shits.

This is how I feel at the end of the day about the film itself, but at the same time I feel there is a real problem with men of today that literally think Billy Dee Williams came off as anything but a smooth lady killer in Empire Strikes Back.

It's a real testament to just how fucking out of touch with reality they are.

....Because people who are attracted to men AND women can't be smooth lady-killers?

Jesus fuck get out of the basement once in a while.
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Still better then Finn. But what you going to do.
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Darmik posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

I'm not upset. It totally fits his character.

I'd just rather that they made him bisexual in a remake instead of continuing the original series and retroactively making him bi. It'd kinda be like if the Rocky movies decided that Apollo Creed had an affair with his sparring partner.

Did they ever state that Apollo Creed had a son in the original movies?

If the gaps are there they can potentially be filled. I'm not sure how you could handle anything similar to this with an attitude like this. How did you handle stuff like Boba Fett in the prequels?

By not watching another Star Wars movie until I was roped into The Force Awakens.

As for Creed, it was a bit of a pill to swallow that he had an illegitimate son. But the movie handled it perfectly and it was essential to the plot. The only way that Apollo Creed could have had a son who was still of an acceptable age to be a boxer would be if Apollo's son was born months after he died (and even then it's a bit of a stretch).

If they made a love story about Lando and another guy, and it had ranked among the best Star Wars films the way that Creed did with the Rocky films, then I think it would've been an easy pill to have swallowed.

We may yet see that. Maybe in two to four years from now, I'll be saying that I didn't like the idea of Lando retroactively being made bi, but that I like what they did with it. But for now, it seems like a very minor and gratuitous addition.

Skye Reynolds posted...

Darmik posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

I'm not upset. It totally fits his character.

I'd just rather that they made him bisexual in a remake instead of continuing the original series and retroactively making him bi. It'd kinda be like if the Rocky movies decided that Apollo Creed had an affair with his sparring partner.

Did they ever state that Apollo Creed had a son in the original movies?

If the gaps are there they can potentially be filled. I'm not sure how you could handle anything similar to this with an attitude like this. How did you handle stuff like Boba Fett in the prequels?

By not watching another Star Wars movie until I was roped into The Force Awakens.

As for Creed, it was a bit of a pill to swallow that he had an illegitimate son. But the movie handled it perfectly and it was essential to the plot. The only way that Apollo Creed could have had a son who was still of an acceptable age to be a boxer would be if Apollo's son was born months after he died (and even then it's a bit of a stretch).

If they made a love story about Lando and another guy, and it had ranked among the best Star Wars films the way that Creed did with the Rocky films, then I think it would've been an easy pill to have swallowed.

We may yet see that. Maybe in two to four years from now, I'll be saying that I didn't like the idea of Lando retroactively being made bi, but that I like what they did with it. But for now, it seems like a very minor and gratuitous addition.

The point is with your attitude is that everything they additionally add to characters in future movies will be an issue for you. How are you going to evolve and flesh out characters if every single thing you know about them happens in their first movie?

Even characters in the OT were 'retconned' when they tried to fill in gaps and flesh out things for the sequels.
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Suchomimus posted...

You can like this all you want but it is 100% an agenda driven creative decision.

and it doesn't hurt your precious nerd movie so relax.
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ASithLord7 posted...

....Because people who are attracted to men AND women can't be smooth lady-killers?

Jesus fuck get out of the basement once in a while.

Typically that's not the average look for gender fluid people, yeah. Especially in media.

But I wouldn't expect someone as delusional and out of touch with reality as you to understand that, Rebel.

Also, you literally get triggered over Star Wars so you calling anyone a basement dweller is just hilarious.

Doesn't Lando look like the kinda guy who'd host orgies? Wouldn't surprise me if that was his entire incentive for Cloud City.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

Suchomimus posted...

You can like this all you want but it is 100% an agenda driven creative decision.

and it doesn't hurt your precious nerd movie so relax.

It does actually, especially when you know why they're doing it, SJW tokenism. If only they cared so much about good writing.
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Funbazooka posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

Suchomimus posted...

You can like this all you want but it is 100% an agenda driven creative decision.

and it doesn't hurt your precious nerd movie so relax.

It does actually, especially when you know why they're doing it, SJW tokenism. If only they cared so much about good writing.

he's still the same, acts the same, movie is the same. if THIS is what ruins the movie for you you have bigger problems than SJWs my dude...
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Darmik posted...

The point is with your attitude is that everything they additionally add to characters in future movies will be an issue for you. How are you going to evolve and flesh out characters if every single thing you know about them happens in their first movie?

A story doesn't need to evolve 30 years after it's been written. By that point, it's better to retell the story or to move on to the stories of other people within the same universe. This isn't the third film in a series revealing things about a character. This is a retroactive continuation of a trilogy that was completed decades ago.

And does it truly flesh out the character? Does the film go in-depth in exploring it? From what I understand, having not seen the film myself, it's only vaguely hinted at in the film and confirmed by the director. You've asked me what if anything this decision has harmed. I ask you what has it helped? What has it added to the character that wasn't there yesterday or the day before? What positive difference has it made which justifies the change?

Apollo Creed having an illegitimate son opened up new doors for storytelling and the film took full advantage of it. If Star Wars does the same with Lando, and explores this in-depth at another date, then this decision too will have been justified. But as it stands, it seems more like a decision made so that writers and producers can pat themselves on the back and not one made to expand further upon an old story or a potentially underutilized character.

Smashingpmkns posted...

Suchomimus posted...

You can like this all you want but it is 100% an agenda driven creative decision.

Dunno man. Dude wears a cape.

Checkmate.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

he's still the same,

Well, no. In the OT he was straight. Now he's "pansexual", which isn't even a real orientation.
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Skye Reynolds posted...

A story doesn't need to evolve 30 years after it's been written. By that point, it's better to retell the story or to move on to the stories of other people within the same universe. This isn't the third film in a series revealing things about a character. This is a retroactive continuation of a trilogy that was completed decades ago.

Unfortunately that's not how franchises work.

And again the trilogy retconned itself! Why is that any different?

Skye Reynolds posted...

And does it truly flesh out the character? Does the film go in-depth in exploring it? From what I understand, having not seen the film myself, it's only vaguely hinted at in the film and confirmed by the director. You've asked me what if anything this decision has harmed. I ask you what has it helped? What has it added to the character that wasn't there yesterday or the day before? What positive difference has it made which justifies the change?

As far as I know it hasn't been 'confirmed' by anyone. One of the writers just said he thinks Lando is sexually fluid and that's it.

Skye Reynolds posted...

Apollo Creed having an illegitimate son opened up new doors for storytelling and the film took full advantage of it. If Star Wars does the same with Lando, and explores this in-depth at another date, then this decision too will have been justified. But as it stands, it seems more like a decision made so that writers and producers can pat themselves on the back and not one made to expand further upon an old story or a potentially underutilized character.

You're overthinking how important you think this is to the people behind the movie. They were asked a question and they responded.

Maybe Donald Glove interpreted the character as bi too. Maybe he thought that was a more compelling way to play the character. I don't know. I haven't seen the movie.
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Funbazooka posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

he's still the same,

Well, no. In the OT he was straight. Now he's "pansexual", which isn't even a real orientation.

Guess SW is ruined forever. Time to find a new movie to watch man.
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It impacts nothing at all, and there is no real reason anyone should care. But it is just a sign of the larger issue of dumb, unnecessary pandering to people who don't actually care at all about the series. As long as we don't get "Luke was actually a bisexual gender fluid otherkin", I don't think anyone will die over this.

Youngster_Joey_ posted...

I feel there is a real problem with men of today that literally think Billy Dee Williams came off as anything but a smooth lady killer in Empire Strikes Back.

Do you know who Billy Dee is? He's nothing but a smooth player.

nemu posted...

ut it is just a sign of the larger issue of dumb, unnecessary pandering to people who don't actually care at all about the series

that's the thing though. Unnecessary? Yea i guess but this is a thing that exists in reality. We're progressing towards a time where this shit isn't as taboo and as a result you'll see it added into movies and media as a way to normalize it...because its just that...a normal thing that exists in the world and isn't a big deal. It shouldn't be a big deal. And things like this are helping move it towards the "not a big deal" category...it seems forced and "Pandering" because, yes it kind of is....we just happen to be living in the moment where people are trying to remove the stigma of harmless shit like this...I don't see that as a bad thing.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Honestly, unless Lando is straight up taking it up the ass on camera I couldn't give two shits.

Yeah. I also probably won't watch the next Star Wars film unless it has Lando taking it up the ass on camera.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

Funbazooka posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

he's still the same,

Well, no. In the OT he was straight. Now he's "pansexual", which isn't even a real orientation.

Guess SW is ruined forever. Time to find a new movie to watch man.

It isn't ruined forever. Nu-Wars is in a horrible state right now since TLJ. I'll probably still watch a bootleg cam of Solo once it's available. I certainly won't pay a penny.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

nemu posted...

ut it is just a sign of the larger issue of dumb, unnecessary pandering to people who don't actually care at all about the series

that's the thing though. Unnecessary? Yea i guess but this is a thing that exists in reality. We're progressing towards a time where this shit isn't as taboo and as a result you'll see it added into movies and media as a way to normalize it...because its just that...a normal thing that exists in the world and isn't a big deal. It shouldn't be a big deal. And things like this are helping move it towards the "not a big deal" category...it seems forced and "Pandering" because, yes it kind of is....we just happen to be living in the moment where people are trying to remove the stigma of harmless shit like this...I don't see that as a bad thing.

There is a difference between removing a stigma to allow for the natural flow of idea, and the ideas being forcefully inserted to purposely fulfill some quota or agenda. There will be some slight overlap between the two, but this is definitely the latter going by what the writer said. Rewriting characters or adding traits to be more progressive will generally always fall into that. It feels forced and unnecessary when there are much better ways to let it happen naturally.

nemu posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

nemu posted...

ut it is just a sign of the larger issue of dumb, unnecessary pandering to people who don't actually care at all about the series

that's the thing though. Unnecessary? Yea i guess but this is a thing that exists in reality. We're progressing towards a time where this shit isn't as taboo and as a result you'll see it added into movies and media as a way to normalize it...because its just that...a normal thing that exists in the world and isn't a big deal. It shouldn't be a big deal. And things like this are helping move it towards the "not a big deal" category...it seems forced and "Pandering" because, yes it kind of is....we just happen to be living in the moment where people are trying to remove the stigma of harmless shit like this...I don't see that as a bad thing.

There is a difference between removing a stigma to allow for the natural flow of idea, and the ideas being forcefully inserted to purposely fulfill some quota or agenda. There will be some slight overlap between the two, but this is definitely the latter going by what the writer said. Rewriting characters or adding traits to be more progressive will generally always fall into that. It feels forced and unnecessary when there are much better ways to let it happen naturally.

and i agree with you...but the thing is people will ALWAYS see it as a negative. even if it was a brand new movie with a new character and THIS was a trait of his, people would still bitch and moan.."AWW MAN this is PANDERING SJW Nonsense!". By adding it into a known character in a big universe it makes much more of an impact. Its not like they changed him drastically and how he appears on screen. this is just a trait that will appear on his Wikipedia page. the movie itself remains intact as it would be without it. its the little things like this that will help normalize this stuff. We need to move past this bull shit of being afraid of this stuff and understand that it is a reality and it doesn't make the person any less of a person just as it won't make Lando any less of a character on screen...
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The stuff in Solo with Lando seems similar to that single comment in Skyfall that people freaked out about. Also for no real reason.
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Suchomimus posted...

You can like this all you want but it is 100% an agenda driven creative decision.

This.
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Darmik posted...

Unfortunately that's not how franchises work.

And again the trilogy retconned itself! Why is that any different?

If you're talking about the original trilogy retconning itself, it's different because it was a new and living story. If you're talking about the prequel trilogy retconning the original, it's no different at all. It's the same problem.

Actually, from a story standpoint, this is a harmless change whereas the changes of the prequel trilogy adversely affected the enjoyment of the series for many fans -- myself included. Lando is still Lando whatever his orientation. That's not the issue.

The issue is that it's done after the fact.

It's not really about TheVipaGTS posted...

nemu posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

nemu posted...

ut it is just a sign of the larger issue of dumb, unnecessary pandering to people who don't actually care at all about the series

that's the thing though. Unnecessary? Yea i guess but this is a thing that exists in reality. We're progressing towards a time where this shit isn't as taboo and as a result you'll see it added into movies and media as a way to normalize it...because its just that...a normal thing that exists in the world and isn't a big deal. It shouldn't be a big deal. And things like this are helping move it towards the "not a big deal" category...it seems forced and "Pandering" because, yes it kind of is....we just happen to be living in the moment where people are trying to remove the stigma of harmless shit like this...I don't see that as a bad thing.

There is a difference between removing a stigma to allow for the natural flow of idea, and the ideas being forcefully inserted to purposely fulfill some quota or agenda. There will be some slight overlap between the two, but this is definitely the latter going by what the writer said. Rewriting characters or adding traits to be more progressive will generally always fall into that. It feels forced and unnecessary when there are much better ways to let it happen naturally.

and i agree with you...but the thing is people will ALWAYS see it as a negative. even if it was a brand new movie with a new character and THIS was a trait of his, people would still bitch and moan.."AWW MAN this is PANDERING SJW Nonsense!". By adding it into a known character in a big universe it makes much more of an impact. Its not like they changed him drastically and how he appears on screen. this is just a trait that will appear on his Wikipedia page. the movie itself remains intact as it would be without it. its the little things like this that will help normalize this stuff. We need to move past this bull shit of being afraid of this stuff and understand that it is a reality and it doesn't make the person any less of a person just as it won't make Lando any less of a character on screen...

It's not really Lando in particular, but this idea that things that are not super progressive are lacking that is invading some spaces. There is a balance between people who are simply happy to be able to write the kind of character they want to write and the people who think things "need" to be more diverse, that all pieces of media have to fulfill a quota. I think changing aspects of existing characters can go too far in the bad direction.

TheVipaGTS posted...

nemu posted...

ut it is just a sign of the larger issue of dumb, unnecessary pandering to people who don't actually care at all about the series

that's the thing though. Unnecessary? Yea i guess but this is a thing that exists in reality. We're progressing towards a time where this shit isn't as taboo and as a result you'll see it added into movies and media as a way to normalize it...because its just that...a normal thing that exists in the world and isn't a big deal. It shouldn't be a big deal. And things like this are helping move it towards the "not a big deal" category...it seems forced and "Pandering" because, yes it kind of is....we just happen to be living in the moment where people are trying to remove the stigma of harmless shit like this...I don't see that as a bad thing.

Big statements about it and mocking those upset with it is going to make it "not a big deal"? Sounds more like the opposite: people want a big deal made and enjoy putting down anyone that points out it was only done as a pandering move.

I miss my younger anime days when gay characters could exist as part of the cast without it being a cause for a victory lap and flame war. (that was the 90s BTW).
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i agree with you there. i can see how it can go too far. But like the Yellow Ranger in Power Rangers, or This...its not really going overboard. just minor character trait changes that don't beat into you.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

nemu posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

nemu posted...

ut it is just a sign of the larger issue of dumb, unnecessary pandering to people who don't actually care at all about the series

that's the thing though. Unnecessary? Yea i guess but this is a thing that exists in reality. We're progressing towards a time where this shit isn't as taboo and as a result you'll see it added into movies and media as a way to normalize it...because its just that...a normal thing that exists in the world and isn't a big deal. It shouldn't be a big deal. And things like this are helping move it towards the "not a big deal" category...it seems forced and "Pandering" because, yes it kind of is....we just happen to be living in the moment where people are trying to remove the stigma of harmless shit like this...I don't see that as a bad thing.

There is a difference between removing a stigma to allow for the natural flow of idea, and the ideas being forcefully inserted to purposely fulfill some quota or agenda. There will be some slight overlap between the two, but this is definitely the latter going by what the writer said. Rewriting characters or adding traits to be more progressive will generally always fall into that. It feels forced and unnecessary when there are much better ways to let it happen naturally.

and i agree with you...but the thing is people will ALWAYS see it as a negative. even if it was a brand new movie with a new character and THIS was a trait of his, people would still bitch and moan.."AWW MAN this is PANDERING SJW Nonsense!". By adding it into a known character in a big universe it makes much more of an impact. Its not like they changed him drastically and how he appears on screen. this is just a trait that will appear on his Wikipedia page. the movie itself remains intact as it would be without it. its the little things like this that will help normalize this stuff. We need to move past this bull shit of being afraid of this stuff and understand that it is a reality and it doesn't make the person any less of a person just as it won't make Lando any less of a character on screen...

If it was written well, and wasn't forced, let them bitch. Why is it BETTER to re-write an established character to force it in a situation where it isn't necessary? Why is it BETTER to re-write an established character to push an agenda when they're already introducing a shit-ton of new characters, any one of which could be it instead and avoid the controversy completely?
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TheVipaGTS posted...

i agree with you there. i can see how it can go too far. But like the Yellow Ranger in Power Rangers, or This...its not really going overboard. just minor character trait changes that don't beat into you.

It's been brought up numerous times and the movie isn't even out yet. It's being "beat into you."
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darkjedilink posted...

It's been brought up numerous times and the movie isn't even out yet. It's being "beat into you."

and you're doing a great job of helping with the "beating" by crying about something so trivial. people like you are why they're doing it. it shouldn't be a big deal. yet here you are, making it a big deal.
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darkjedilink posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

i agree with you there. i can see how it can go too far. But like the Yellow Ranger in Power Rangers, or This...its not really going overboard. just minor character trait changes that don't beat into you.

It's been brought up numerous times and the movie isn't even out yet. It's being "beat into you."

What?

This started because an interviewer asked the writers about it.

Then they gave their opinions about it.

It doesn't even sound like the movie is explicit about it at all.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

darkjedilink posted...

It's been brought up numerous times and the movie isn't even out yet. It's being "beat into you."

and you're doing a great job of helping with the "beating" by crying about something so trivial. people like you are why they're doing it. it shouldn't be a big deal. yet here you are, making it a big deal.

It shouldn't be a big deal, but here you are, making it a big deal. The directors, too. And everyone asking about it.

I personally don't care either way about a bi character, or even a bi main character. I only care that this is blatantly agenda-driven, meaning it's not an organic writing process. This means the movie's going to be shit, just like TLJ, and for the same reason - agenda matters more than story.

If you want bi characters, write a bi character and make it matter. Don't rewrite an established character and pretend you're progressive.
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Darmik posted...

darkjedilink posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

i agree with you there. i can see how it can go too far. But like the Yellow Ranger in Power Rangers, or This...its not really going overboard. just minor character trait changes that don't beat into you.

It's been brought up numerous times and the movie isn't even out yet. It's being "beat into you."

What?

This started because an interviewer asked the writers about it.

Then they gave their opinions about it.

It doesn't even sound like the movie is explicit about it at all.

But he saw it here and maybe on Twitter and/Or Reddit. So, you know, it's everywhere
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Darmik posted...

darkjedilink posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

i agree with you there. i can see how it can go too far. But like the Yellow Ranger in Power Rangers, or This...its not really going overboard. just minor character trait changes that don't beat into you.

It's been brought up numerous times and the movie isn't even out yet. It's being "beat into you."

What?

This started because an interviewer asked the writers about it.

Then they gave their opinions about it.

It doesn't even sound like the movie is explicit about it at all.

Did I ever say anything about the movie being explicit about it? Again, it's not even out yet, and numerous articles have speculated on it, to the point that a news reporter actually asked about it.
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darkjedilink posted...

This means the movie's going to be shit, just like TLJ, and for the same reason - agenda matters more than story.

You're a ridiculous person
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darkjedilink posted...

I personally don't care either way about a bi character, or even a bi main character. I only care that this is blatantly agenda-driven, meaning it's not an organic writing process. This means the movie's going to be shit, just like TLJ, and for the same reason - agenda matters more than story.

Bingo.
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This is my kind of homosexual agenda.
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darkjedilink posted...

Did I ever say anything about the movie being explicit about it? Again, it's not even out yet, and numerous articles have speculated on it, to the point that a news reporter actually asked about it.

It doesn't take a lot of effort to ask a question.

And yes articles speculated over this because Lando calls Han baby. That's what people are freaking out and making a big deal over. That's why you think this movie will be shit.
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darkjedilink posted...

It shouldn't be a big deal, but here you are, making it a big deal. The directors, too. And everyone asking about it.

but we're not making it a big deal..its a thing that happens. this character is that thing. cool. it helps normalize it. chill...you're the one throwing a fit over it lol.
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darkjedilink posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

nemu posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

nemu posted...

ut it is just a sign of the larger issue of dumb, unnecessary pandering to people who don't actually care at all about the series

that's the thing though. Unnecessary? Yea i guess but this is a thing that exists in reality. We're progressing towards a time where this shit isn't as taboo and as a result you'll see it added into movies and media as a way to normalize it...because its just that...a normal thing that exists in the world and isn't a big deal. It shouldn't be a big deal. And things like this are helping move it towards the "not a big deal" category...it seems forced and "Pandering" because, yes it kind of is....we just happen to be living in the moment where people are trying to remove the stigma of harmless shit like this...I don't see that as a bad thing.

There is a difference between removing a stigma to allow for the natural flow of idea, and the ideas being forcefully inserted to purposely fulfill some quota or agenda. There will be some slight overlap between the two, but this is definitely the latter going by what the writer said. Rewriting characters or adding traits to be more progressive will generally always fall into that. It feels forced and unnecessary when there are much better ways to let it happen naturally.

and i agree with you...but the thing is people will ALWAYS see it as a negative. even if it was a brand new movie with a new character and THIS was a trait of his, people would still bitch and moan.."AWW MAN this is PANDERING SJW Nonsense!". By adding it into a known character in a big universe it makes much more of an impact. Its not like they changed him drastically and how he appears on screen. this is just a trait that will appear on his Wikipedia page. the movie itself remains intact as it would be without it. its the little things like this that will help normalize this stuff. We need to move past this bull shit of being afraid of this stuff and understand that it is a reality and it doesn't make the person any less of a person just as it won't make Lando any less of a character on screen...

If it was written well, and wasn't forced, let them bitch. Why is it BETTER to re-write an established character to force it in a situation where it isn't necessary? Why is it BETTER to re-write an established character to push an agenda when they're already introducing a shit-ton of new characters, any one of which could be it instead and avoid the controversy completely?

Even if they wrote in a new character as pansexual you all would still say its an agenda and you would still bitch about it.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

But he saw it here and maybe on Twitter and/Or Reddit. So, you know, it's everywhere

Typing "Lando Calrissian" into Google Search has "Lando Calrissian pansexual" as the first suggested search term.

https://bit.ly/2IsfuvV

But, yeah - just here and "maybe on Twitter and/or Reddit."
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