Poll of the Day > During roundtable, Trump calls some unauthorized immigrants 'animals'.

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https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/17/611877563/during-roundtable-trump-calls-some-unauthorized-immigrants-animals

President Trump, speaking on Wednesday to a gathering of officials from California who oppose the state's "sanctuary" law, compared some people who illegally cross the U.S. southern border to "animals."

During a White House roundtable discussion with law enforcement officials and political leaders, Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims expressed frustration that California law signed last year by Gov. Jerry Brown forbids informing U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement of undocumented immigrants in the state's jails, even if police believe they are part of a gang.

Trump's response: "We have people coming into the country or trying to come in, we're stopping a lot of them but we're taking people out of the country, you wouldn't believe how bad these people are. These aren't people. These are animals," the president said.

The president thanked attendees at the roundtable who he said had "bravely resisted California's deadly and unconstitutional sanctuary state laws."

"[The] release of illegal immigrant criminals, drug dealers, gang members and violent predators into your communities" and providing "safe harbor to some of the most vicious and violent offenders on earth," the president said.

Gov. Brown tweeted out later that the president "is lying on immigration, lying about crime and lying about the laws of CA."

@realDonaldTrump is lying on immigration, lying about crime and lying about the laws of CA. Flying in a dozen Republican politicians to flatter him and praise his reckless policies changes nothing. We, the citizens of the fifth largest economy in the world, are not impressed.

Jerry Brown (@JerryBrownGov) May 16, 2018
As The Associated Press notes, "Brown insists the legislation, which took effect Jan. 1, doesn't prevent federal immigration officials from doing their jobs. But the Trump administration has sued to reverse it, calling the policies unconstitutional and dangerous. Some counties, including San Diego and Orange, have voted to support the lawsuit or passed their own anti-sanctuary resolutions."

Despite evidence to the contrary, Trump has repeatedly insisted that illegal immigration to the U.S. is contributing to a wave of crime. During the 2016 campaign, he famously referred to immigrants from Mexico as "bad hombres" and said most were "drug dealers, criminals, rapists."

Citing one study conducted by four universities, The New York Times wrote in March that data show, "a large majority of the [metropolitan] areas have many more immigrants today than they did in 1980 and fewer violent crimes. The Marshall Project extended the study's data up to 2016, showing that crime fell more often than it rose even as immigrant populations grew almost across the board."

According to the Times, "In 136 metro areas, almost 70 percent of those studied, the immigrant population increased between 1980 and 2016 while crime stayed stable or fell. The number of areas where crime and immigration both increased was much lower 54 areas, slightly more than a quarter of the total. The 10 places with the largest increases in immigrants all had lower levels of crime in 2016 than in 1980."

Trump calls bad people animals.
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WastelandCowboy posted...

Despite evidence to the contrary, Trump has repeatedly insisted that illegal immigration to the U.S. is contributing to a wave of crime.

WastelandCowboy posted...

Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims expressed frustration that California law signed last year by Gov. Jerry Brown forbids informing U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement of undocumented immigrants in the state's jails, even if police believe they are part of a gang.

Looks like CA is hiding statistics, so I think it's safe to assume CA has got something to hide that goes against their agenda. Perhaps illegal immigrant crime rates?
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Pretty sure the "some unauthorized immigrants" he's referring to are gang members. Context goes a long way here.
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I would still see them as animals if they werent gang members. Sounds like Trump was being nice? Is that the problem here? He was too nice and PC?
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That's offensive!

.... To animals!
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He was referring to MS-13 members as animals.

Which is an insult to animals.

InfernalFive posted...

Pretty sure the "some unauthorized immigrants" he's referring to are gang members. Context goes a long way here.

Context is the sworn enemy of clickbait liberal media

Oh I see, so PETA is on his case then for insulting animals? Geez...got to be careful who you offend these days.
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Ah yes, dehumanizing your fellow man is always a great practice.

Any national leader calling other specific groups of humans "animals" is a disgrace. Unless he was saying "all humans are all animals"
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i'm surprised people are still surprised when they hear what comes out of this mans mouth
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Ah yes, dehumanizing your fellow man is always a great practice.

It's a distinctly liberal practice, but sure.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

Ah yes, dehumanizing your fellow man is always a great practice.

It's a distinctly liberal practice, but sure.

Trump is a liberal? Oh you're just absolutely precious
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Ah yes, dehumanizing your fellow man is always a great practice.

Any national leader calling other specific groups of humans "animals" is a disgrace. Unless he was saying "all humans are all animals"

How dare he dehumanize murderous drug lords!

Doctor Foxx posted...

Ah yes, dehumanizing your fellow man is always a great practice.

I wouldn't call drug lords, murderers, and rapists my "fellow man."
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InfernalFive posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

Ah yes, dehumanizing your fellow man is always a great practice.

I wouldn't call drug lords, murderers, and rapists my "fellow man."

If Obama had said the same thing, she'd be kissing his bhole

It's easier to just make an enemy out of some groups and goad people to vote Republican out of their feelings of superiority, rather than actually try to address the problems that lead to criminal lifestyles. People aren't born into a life of crime (or if they are, that wasn't their choice). It's dehumanizing. And get out of here with the "LULZ LIBERAL MEDIA DESTROYING CONTEXT". You know that this is what Trump also wants his base to continue thinking about all brown immigrants, regardless of if they're actually the "bad hombres".

OhhhJa posted...

InfernalFive posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

Ah yes, dehumanizing your fellow man is always a great practice.

I wouldn't call drug lords, murderers, and rapists my "fellow man."

If Obama had said the same thing, she'd be kissing his bhole

Then say these people have behaved like animals. They're not animals in the sense he's saying. It's purely to dehumanize

If he had? He wouldn't have. Unless you can find me anywhere in his time in office where Obama referred to a particular group of people as animals.

Weird how Obama wouldn't call groups of people animals and that might be why he's somewhat more likeable and articulate than the current Commander in Chief
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Chewster posted...

It's easier to just make an enemy out of some groups and goad people to vote Republican out of their feelings of superiority

This can just easily describe the DNC tbh. Both parties are definitely prone to expressing their moral superiority. The dems are just much louder and more obnoxious about it

Chewster posted...

rather than actually try to address the problems that lead to criminal lifestyles

I don't waste my time making excuses for murderers. And yeah poverty and environment are the leading causes for these lifestyles. Doesn't excuse the individual for violent crime though

Chewster posted...

And get out of here with the "LULZ LIBERAL MEDIA DESTROYING CONTEXT"

I don't think there's anything funny about journalistic dishonesty

Doctor Foxx posted...

OhhhJa posted...

InfernalFive posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

Ah yes, dehumanizing your fellow man is always a great practice.

I wouldn't call drug lords, murderers, and rapists my "fellow man."

If Obama had said the same thing, she'd be kissing his bhole

Then say these people have behaved like animals. They're not animals in the sense he's saying. It's purely to dehumanize

If he had? He wouldn't have. Unless you can find me anywhere in his time in office where Obama referred to a particular group of people as animals.

Weird how Obama wouldn't call groups of people animals and that might be why he's somewhat more likeable and articulate than the current Commander in Chief

Still defending murderers drug dealers I see

OhhhJa posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

OhhhJa posted...

InfernalFive posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

Ah yes, dehumanizing your fellow man is always a great practice.

I wouldn't call drug lords, murderers, and rapists my "fellow man."

If Obama had said the same thing, she'd be kissing his bhole

Then say these people have behaved like animals. They're not animals in the sense he's saying. It's purely to dehumanize

If he had? He wouldn't have. Unless you can find me anywhere in his time in office where Obama referred to a particular group of people as animals.

Weird how Obama wouldn't call groups of people animals and that might be why he's somewhat more likeable and articulate than the current Commander in Chief

Still defending murderers drug dealers I see

They're shitty human beings that I'm not defending in any sense

I'm not going to call them animals
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Trump is a liberal? Oh you're just absolutely precious

He was a liberal up until he found out he could be more popular if he started hating on Obama.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

OhhhJa posted...

InfernalFive posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

Ah yes, dehumanizing your fellow man is always a great practice.

I wouldn't call drug lords, murderers, and rapists my "fellow man."

If Obama had said the same thing, she'd be kissing his bhole

Then say these people have behaved like animals. They're not animals in the sense he's saying. It's purely to dehumanize

If he had? He wouldn't have. Unless you can find me anywhere in his time in office where Obama referred to a particular group of people as animals.

Weird how Obama wouldn't call groups of people animals and that might be why he's somewhat more likeable and articulate than the current Commander in Chief

Still defending murderers drug dealers I see

They're shitty human beings that I'm not defending in any sense

I'm not going to call them animals

Yeah it's an insult to animals

Zareth posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

Trump is a liberal? Oh you're just absolutely precious

He was a huge liberal up until he found out he could be more popular if he started hating on Obama.

This is also true. He was a staunch liberal 10 years ago. Probably knew the DNC would rip him apart if he ran as a Democrat though. They would've immediately played the "He's a greedy rich businessman" card. They wouldn't be wrong but yeah

He used to be a Democrat, but I don't think he was ever a "huge (yuge?) liberal"

Chewster posted...

He used to be a Democrat, but I don't think he was ever a "huge (yuge?) liberal"

Dems don't care as long as you vote for them.
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Yeah, I know that all too well. They love losing elections trying to appeal too hard to the "moderate" crowd (despite what far-righters will tell you that they've gone "full-on SJW identity politics" or whatever)

Dehumanizing your opponents is what the bad guys do, is we bad guys?
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They are animals. From shithole countries

Chewster posted...

Yeah, I know that all too well. They love losing elections trying to appeal too hard to the "moderate" crowd (despite what far-righters will tell you that they've gone "full-on SJW identity politics" or whatever)

They lost because the DNC let Hillary call all the shots. They purposely sabotaged Bernie even though he would've probably been the best shot they had. Truth is both the dems and the republicans voter base were looking for a more populist, against the grain of the party kinda guy.

ReggieTheReckless posted...

They are animals. From shithole countries

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