Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 174: Nominated For The Nobel Peace Prize

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Dancedreamer 05/16/18 9:20:22 PM #51:	As Americans and the country that claims to be leader of the free world I believe it is our foremost duty to be better than our enemies. To treat all human beings with respect. To treat them all the way we would like our own combatants treated. I do fault Obama for ordering so many drone strikes that cost civilian lives. It's one of his major weaknesses. The major weaknesses of both of our major political parties. Legal or not, torture is wrong. As soon as we start treating others as less than human, we become a little less human ourselves. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:901471070] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote>As Americans and the country that claims to be leader of the free world I believe it is our foremost duty to be better than our enemies. To treat all human beings with respect. To treat them all the way we would like our own combatants treated. I do fault Obama for ordering so many drone strikes that cost civilian lives. It's one of his major weaknesses. The major weaknesses of both of our major political parties. Legal or not, torture is wrong. As soon as we start treating others as less than human, we become a little less human ourselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UInstinctGogeta 05/16/18 9:24:07 PM #52:	Inviso posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... Inviso posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... We do not dictate our policy on what benefits other countries the most. Our governments sole role is the protection and support of its own citizens. Ummm have you seen our foreign policy the last 50 years? Or are you just speaking as an ideal In the past two weeks, we've LITERALLY stirred up a hive of anti-American sentiment among Middle Easterners by A. going back on our word with the Iran deal for no reason other than spiting Obama, and B. moving our embassy to Jerusalem and getting dozens of Palestinians murdered in the process. But yeah, protection and support of Americans. You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this. I'm blaming Trump for making spiteful, incendiary decisions that rile up the Middle East against us for no reason other than anti-Muslim bigotry and a desire to erase President Obama from history. It belongs in Jerusalem anyway... If these people thought THIS was a sword worth (in this case, LITERALLY) dying on, there really was no help for them anyway. <cite>UInstinctGogeta posted [p:901471242] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> We do not dictate our policy on what benefits other countries the most. Our governments sole role is the protection and support of its own citizens.</quote> Ummm have you seen our foreign policy the last 50 years? Or are you just speaking as an ideal</quote> In the past two weeks, we've LITERALLY stirred up a hive of anti-American sentiment among Middle Easterners by A. going back on our word with the Iran deal for no reason other than spiting Obama, and B. moving our embassy to Jerusalem and getting dozens of Palestinians murdered in the process. But yeah, protection and support of Americans.</quote> You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this.</quote> I'm blaming Trump for making spiteful, incendiary decisions that rile up the Middle East against us for no reason other than anti-Muslim bigotry and a desire to erase President Obama from history.</quote> It belongs in Jerusalem anyway... If these people thought THIS was a sword worth (in this case, LITERALLY) dying on, there really was no help for them anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelesMyUserName 05/16/18 9:24:16 PM #53:	UInstinctGogeta posted... You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this. Yeah no, "we didn't do anything!" isn't something America is allowed to claim here. At all. --- https://imgur.com/U7qSWmn something something hung something horse something <cite>CelesMyUserName posted [p:901471247] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote>You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this.</quote> Yeah no, "we didn't do anything!" isn't something America is allowed to claim here. At all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/16/18 9:30:28 PM #54:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... We do not dictate our policy on what benefits other countries the most. Our governments sole role is the protection and support of its own citizens. Ummm have you seen our foreign policy the last 50 years? Or are you just speaking as an ideal How it is spose to be True story, I was gonna respond to this with a sphiel about how no country is an island but then I realized some countries are actually just islands Regardless, what if I, as a citizen, dont want it to be the way its spose to be? It is opposing opinions, but you cannot really fault the opinion of that being the way someone sees it properly. It is the foundation of our government. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901471538] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> We do not dictate our policy on what benefits other countries the most. Our governments sole role is the protection and support of its own citizens.</quote> Ummm have you seen our foreign policy the last 50 years? Or are you just speaking as an ideal</quote> How it is spose to be</quote> True story, I was gonna respond to this with a sphiel about how no country is an island but then I realized some countries are actually just islands Regardless, what if I, as a citizen, dont want it to be the way its spose to be?</quote> It is opposing opinions, but you cannot really fault the opinion of that being the way someone sees it properly. It is the foundation of our government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/16/18 9:31:08 PM #55:	UInstinctGogeta posted... Inviso posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... Inviso posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... We do not dictate our policy on what benefits other countries the most. Our governments sole role is the protection and support of its own citizens. Ummm have you seen our foreign policy the last 50 years? Or are you just speaking as an ideal In the past two weeks, we've LITERALLY stirred up a hive of anti-American sentiment among Middle Easterners by A. going back on our word with the Iran deal for no reason other than spiting Obama, and B. moving our embassy to Jerusalem and getting dozens of Palestinians murdered in the process. But yeah, protection and support of Americans. You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this. I'm blaming Trump for making spiteful, incendiary decisions that rile up the Middle East against us for no reason other than anti-Muslim bigotry and a desire to erase President Obama from history. It belongs in Jerusalem anyway... If these people thought THIS was a sword worth (in this case, LITERALLY) dying on, there really was no help for them anyway. Democrats (mostly) were on board with moving it to Jerusalem also under Obama. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901471563] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> We do not dictate our policy on what benefits other countries the most. Our governments sole role is the protection and support of its own citizens.</quote> Ummm have you seen our foreign policy the last 50 years? Or are you just speaking as an ideal</quote> In the past two weeks, we've LITERALLY stirred up a hive of anti-American sentiment among Middle Easterners by A. going back on our word with the Iran deal for no reason other than spiting Obama, and B. moving our embassy to Jerusalem and getting dozens of Palestinians murdered in the process. But yeah, protection and support of Americans.</quote> You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this.</quote> I'm blaming Trump for making spiteful, incendiary decisions that rile up the Middle East against us for no reason other than anti-Muslim bigotry and a desire to erase President Obama from history.</quote> It belongs in Jerusalem anyway... If these people thought THIS was a sword worth (in this case, LITERALLY) dying on, there really was no help for them anyway.</quote> Democrats (mostly) were on board with moving it to Jerusalem also under Obama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 05/16/18 9:31:46 PM #56:	UInstinctGogeta posted... Inviso posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... Inviso posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... We do not dictate our policy on what benefits other countries the most. Our governments sole role is the protection and support of its own citizens. Ummm have you seen our foreign policy the last 50 years? Or are you just speaking as an ideal In the past two weeks, we've LITERALLY stirred up a hive of anti-American sentiment among Middle Easterners by A. going back on our word with the Iran deal for no reason other than spiting Obama, and B. moving our embassy to Jerusalem and getting dozens of Palestinians murdered in the process. But yeah, protection and support of Americans. You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this. I'm blaming Trump for making spiteful, incendiary decisions that rile up the Middle East against us for no reason other than anti-Muslim bigotry and a desire to erase President Obama from history. It belongs in Jerusalem anyway... If these people thought THIS was a sword worth (in this case, LITERALLY) dying on, there really was no help for them anyway. I'm just saying... You're someone who believes in being tough on radical Islamic terrorists, right? Maybe we, as a nation, shouldn't be making showy gestures designed to highlight just how shittily we want to treat one of the largest religions in the world, either by instituting an Islamaphobic travel ban, or by reneging on a deal with Iran for no real benefit to America, or by spitting in the face of Palestine by casually moving our embassy with little regard for the actual implications of such a move. Keep in mind, I'm not saying the crazy hard-liners that are all "Death to America" are ever going to be swayed in our favor. They're conservatives, and we all know how stubborn religious conservatives are. But maybe just maybe we shouldn't feed into their "Death to America" narrative via constant shitting on the entire group, thus giving reason for neutral Muslims who grew up in a globalizing world to take the violent assholes more seriously. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:901471592] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> We do not dictate our policy on what benefits other countries the most. Our governments sole role is the protection and support of its own citizens.</quote> Ummm have you seen our foreign policy the last 50 years? Or are you just speaking as an ideal</quote> In the past two weeks, we've LITERALLY stirred up a hive of anti-American sentiment among Middle Easterners by A. going back on our word with the Iran deal for no reason other than spiting Obama, and B. moving our embassy to Jerusalem and getting dozens of Palestinians murdered in the process. But yeah, protection and support of Americans.</quote> You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this.</quote> I'm blaming Trump for making spiteful, incendiary decisions that rile up the Middle East against us for no reason other than anti-Muslim bigotry and a desire to erase President Obama from history.</quote> It belongs in Jerusalem anyway... If these people thought THIS was a sword worth (in this case, LITERALLY) dying on, there really was no help for them anyway.</quote> I'm just saying... You're someone who believes in being tough on radical Islamic terrorists, right? Maybe we, as a nation, shouldn't be making showy gestures designed to highlight just how shittily we want to treat one of the largest religions in the world, either by instituting an Islamaphobic travel ban, or by reneging on a deal with Iran for no real benefit to America, or by spitting in the face of Palestine by casually moving our embassy with little regard for the actual implications of such a move. Keep in mind, I'm not saying the crazy hard-liners that are all "Death to America" are ever going to be swayed in our favor. They're conservatives, and we all know how stubborn religious conservatives are. But maybe just maybe we shouldn't feed into their "Death to America" narrative via constant shitting on the entire group, thus giving reason for neutral Muslims who grew up in a globalizing world to take the violent assholes more seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UInstinctGogeta 05/16/18 9:31:59 PM #57:	Dancedreamer posted... As Americans and the country that claims to be leader of the free world I believe it is our foremost duty to be better than our enemies. To treat all human beings with respect. To treat them all the way we would like our own combatants treated. I do fault Obama for ordering so many drone strikes that cost civilian lives. It's one of his major weaknesses. The major weaknesses of both of our major political parties. Legal or not, torture is wrong. As soon as we start treating others as less than human, we become a little less human ourselves. It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. You torture if it saves people. Terrorist lives be damned. <cite>UInstinctGogeta posted [p:901471604] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote>As Americans and the country that claims to be leader of the free world I believe it is our foremost duty to be better than our enemies. To treat all human beings with respect. To treat them all the way we would like our own combatants treated. I do fault Obama for ordering so many drone strikes that cost civilian lives. It's one of his major weaknesses. The major weaknesses of both of our major political parties. Legal or not, torture is wrong. As soon as we start treating others as less than human, we become a little less human ourselves.</quote> It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. You torture if it saves people. Terrorist lives be damned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 05/16/18 9:33:12 PM #58:	UInstinctGogeta posted... Dancedreamer posted... As Americans and the country that claims to be leader of the free world I believe it is our foremost duty to be better than our enemies. To treat all human beings with respect. To treat them all the way we would like our own combatants treated. I do fault Obama for ordering so many drone strikes that cost civilian lives. It's one of his major weaknesses. The major weaknesses of both of our major political parties. Legal or not, torture is wrong. As soon as we start treating others as less than human, we become a little less human ourselves. It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. You torture if it saves people. Terrorist lives be damned. There is actually no proof that torture does anything beneficial to America, IIRC. The real world isn't 24. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:901471679] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote>As Americans and the country that claims to be leader of the free world I believe it is our foremost duty to be better than our enemies. To treat all human beings with respect. To treat them all the way we would like our own combatants treated. I do fault Obama for ordering so many drone strikes that cost civilian lives. It's one of his major weaknesses. The major weaknesses of both of our major political parties. Legal or not, torture is wrong. As soon as we start treating others as less than human, we become a little less human ourselves.</quote> It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. You torture if it saves people. Terrorist lives be damned.</quote> There is actually no proof that torture does anything beneficial to America, IIRC. The real world isn't 24.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/16/18 9:33:23 PM #59:	Corrik posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... We do not dictate our policy on what benefits other countries the most. Our governments sole role is the protection and support of its own citizens. Ummm have you seen our foreign policy the last 50 years? Or are you just speaking as an ideal How it is spose to be True story, I was gonna respond to this with a sphiel about how no country is an island but then I realized some countries are actually just islands Regardless, what if I, as a citizen, dont want it to be the way its spose to be? It is opposing opinions, but you cannot really fault the opinion of that being the way someone sees it properly. It is the foundation of our government. I can fault that opinion if I dont respect the foundation of the government. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901471692] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> We do not dictate our policy on what benefits other countries the most. Our governments sole role is the protection and support of its own citizens.</quote> Ummm have you seen our foreign policy the last 50 years? Or are you just speaking as an ideal</quote> How it is spose to be</quote> True story, I was gonna respond to this with a sphiel about how no country is an island but then I realized some countries are actually just islands Regardless, what if I, as a citizen, dont want it to be the way its spose to be?</quote> It is opposing opinions, but you cannot really fault the opinion of that being the way someone sees it properly. It is the foundation of our government.</quote> I can fault that opinion if I dont respect the foundation of the government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UInstinctGogeta 05/16/18 9:35:15 PM #60:	CelesMyUserName posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this. Yeah no, "we didn't do anything!" isn't something America is allowed to claim here. At all. Well I'm certainly claiming it... They can shut the fuck up, and if they don't want to apparently some one is gonna do it for them. DON'T FUCKING RIOT!!!!! America did nothing that didn't help her. All that matters. <cite>UInstinctGogeta posted [p:901471777] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>CelesMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote>You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this.</quote> Yeah no, "we didn't do anything!" isn't something America is allowed to claim here. At all.</quote> Well I'm certainly claiming it... They can shut the fuck up, and if they don't want to apparently some one is gonna do it for them. DON'T FUCKING RIOT!!!!! America did nothing that didn't help her. All that matters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/16/18 9:35:16 PM #61:	UInstinctGogeta posted... Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. Inviso, thats all you need to know --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901471780] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote>Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. </quote> Inviso, thats all you need to know</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 05/16/18 9:35:57 PM #62:	Also, that's definitely not the foundation of our government. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:901471796] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote>Also, that's definitely not the foundation of our government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 05/16/18 9:36:44 PM #63:	UInstinctGogeta posted... It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. So why not start torturing Americans too? I mean if it's going to save lives. Also ban guns while we're at it. American Lives are on the line! --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:901471822] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote>It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. </quote> So why not start torturing Americans too? I mean if it's going to save lives. Also ban guns while we're at it. American Lives are on the line!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 05/16/18 9:36:47 PM #64:	i'm glad MWC thinks my life is less important than an american life. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:901471825] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote>i'm glad MWC thinks my life is less important than an american life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 05/16/18 9:37:48 PM #65:	UInstinctGogeta posted... CelesMyUserName posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this. Yeah no, "we didn't do anything!" isn't something America is allowed to claim here. At all. Well I'm certainly claiming it... They can shut the fuck up, and if they don't want to apparently some one is gonna do it for them. DON'T FUCKING RIOT!!!!! America did nothing that didn't help her. All that matters. How did moving this embassy help America? How does it physically benefit us to rile up and agitate a portion of the world's population that already has great cause to hate us...all so we can make an flashy gesture to a country that is already a guaranteed ally? --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:901471869] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CelesMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote>You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this.</quote> Yeah no, "we didn't do anything!" isn't something America is allowed to claim here. At all.</quote> Well I'm certainly claiming it... They can shut the fuck up, and if they don't want to apparently some one is gonna do it for them. DON'T FUCKING RIOT!!!!! America did nothing that didn't help her. All that matters.</quote> How did moving this embassy help America? How does it physically benefit us to rile up and agitate a portion of the world's population that already has great cause to hate us...all so we can make an flashy gesture to a country that is already a guaranteed ally?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/16/18 9:37:55 PM #66:	Kenri posted... Also, that's definitely not the foundation of our government. Didnt you know the founding fathers were super nationalist, thats why they didnt do anything crazy like rebel against the rules imposed on them or anything --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901471875] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote>Also, that's definitely not the foundation of our government.</quote> Didnt you know the founding fathers were super nationalist, thats why they didnt do anything crazy like rebel against the rules imposed on them or anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 05/16/18 9:38:42 PM #67:	Dancedreamer posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. So why not start torturing Americans too? I mean if it's going to save lives. Also ban guns while we're at it. American Lives are on the line! Ooh, this is a good one. We're the number one country for gun deaths, so surely if the goal is protecting American lives, then limiting access to gun should be one of MWC's top priorities. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:901471914] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote>It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. </quote> So why not start torturing Americans too? I mean if it's going to save lives. Also ban guns while we're at it. American Lives are on the line!</quote> Ooh, this is a good one. We're the number one country for gun deaths, so surely if the goal is protecting American lives, then limiting access to gun should be one of MWC's top priorities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 05/16/18 9:38:53 PM #68:	Mr Lasastryke posted... i'm glad MWC thinks my life is less important than an american life. Have you just not met MWC before now. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:901471922] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>i'm glad MWC thinks my life is less important than an american life.</quote> Have you just not met MWC before now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 05/16/18 9:39:41 PM #69:	SupremeZero posted... Have you just not met MWC before now. he always finds new ways to surprise me! --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:901471959] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>SupremeZero posted...</cite> <quote>Have you just not met MWC before now.</quote> he always finds new ways to surprise me!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/16/18 9:40:28 PM #70:	You know what would really prioritize American lives? Taxing the rich enough to pay for universal health care --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901471999] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote>You know what would really prioritize American lives? Taxing the rich enough to pay for universal health care</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/16/18 9:42:25 PM #71:	Dancedreamer posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. So why not start torturing Americans too? I mean if it's going to save lives. Also ban guns while we're at it. American Lives are on the line! Americans have been deemed terrorists or enemy combatants before. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901472097] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote>It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. </quote> So why not start torturing Americans too? I mean if it's going to save lives. Also ban guns while we're at it. American Lives are on the line!</quote> Americans have been deemed terrorists or enemy combatants before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 05/16/18 9:42:35 PM #72:	Ranking of factors important to determine importance of life for MWC. Sports affiliations Amurica General human decency --- https://i.imgur.com/WuDQzsc_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:901472106] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote>Ranking of factors important to determine importance of life for MWC. Sports affiliations Amurica General human decency</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/16/18 9:43:41 PM #73:	Jakyl25 posted... You know what would really prioritize American lives? Taxing the rich enough to pay for universal health care It wouldn't be enough though universal healthcare would be the optimal system. Most agree on that. Most including Trump and Clinton just do not see how it is possible economically. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901472153] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>You know what would really prioritize American lives? Taxing the rich enough to pay for universal health care</quote> It wouldn't be enough though universal healthcare would be the optimal system. Most agree on that. Most including Trump and Clinton just do not see how it is possible economically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 05/16/18 9:44:11 PM #74:	Corrik posted... Democrats (mostly) were on board with moving it to Jerusalem also under Obama. Not really. You're acting as if people were mostly on board with moving it, when even in 2017 (after Trump was elected) 44% of Republicans opposed moving the embassy. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:901472181] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Democrats (mostly) were on board with moving it to Jerusalem also under Obama. </quote> Not really. You're acting as if people were mostly on board with moving it, when even in 2017 (after Trump was elected) 44% of Republicans opposed moving the embassy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/16/18 9:45:10 PM #75:	Corrik posted... It wouldn't be enough though universal healthcare would be the optimal system. Most agree on that. Have you talked to conservatives lately? Heck MWC is right here, hell tell you he shouldnt have to pay for someone elses doctor visit. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901472215] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> It wouldn't be enough though universal healthcare would be the optimal system. Most agree on that.</quote> Have you talked to conservatives lately? Heck MWC is right here, hell tell you he shouldnt have to pay for someone elses doctor visit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pyresword 05/16/18 9:49:09 PM #76:	Guys he's not saying "American lives are more valuable" he's saying "the American government should value American lives more when dictating policies". Which...yes. I think that's a pretty reasonable claim to make. Ugh why did I start lurking this topic again. --- Congratulations to BK_Sheikah00, this year's guru to achieve contest enlightenment! <cite>pyresword posted [p:901472399] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote>Guys he's not saying "American lives are more valuable" he's saying "the American government should value American lives more when dictating policies". Which...yes. I think that's a pretty reasonable claim to make. Ugh why did I start lurking this topic again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/16/18 9:50:00 PM #77:	Dancedreamer posted... Corrik posted... Democrats (mostly) were on board with moving it to Jerusalem also under Obama. Not really. You're acting as if people were mostly on board with moving it, when even in 2017 (after Trump was elected) 44% of Republicans opposed moving the embassy. Clinton, Bush, Obama all promised to move the capital to Jerusalem. None of them ended up doing it. Trump is just the first who kept his word on it. "Let me be clear. Israel's security is sacrosanct. It is non-negotiable. "The Palestinians need a state that is contiguous and cohesive, and that allows them to prosper but any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognised and defensible borders. "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided. I have no illusions that this will be easy." ^ I mean, who do you think said the above quote. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901472436] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Democrats (mostly) were on board with moving it to Jerusalem also under Obama. </quote> Not really. You're acting as if people were mostly on board with moving it, when even in 2017 (after Trump was elected) 44% of Republicans opposed moving the embassy.</quote> Clinton, Bush, Obama all promised to move the capital to Jerusalem. None of them ended up doing it. Trump is just the first who kept his word on it. "Let me be clear. Israel's security is sacrosanct. It is non-negotiable. "The Palestinians need a state that is contiguous and cohesive, and that allows them to prosper but any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognised and defensible borders. "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided. I have no illusions that this will be easy." ^ I mean, who do you think said the above quote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/16/18 9:50:33 PM #78:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... It wouldn't be enough though universal healthcare would be the optimal system. Most agree on that. Have you talked to conservatives lately? Heck MWC is right here, hell tell you he shouldnt have to pay for someone elses doctor visit. Universal Healthcare has bipartisan support from the people in every poll I have seen. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901472471] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> It wouldn't be enough though universal healthcare would be the optimal system. Most agree on that.</quote> Have you talked to conservatives lately? Heck MWC is right here, hell tell you he shouldnt have to pay for someone elses doctor visit.</quote> Universal Healthcare has bipartisan support from the people in every poll I have seen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 05/16/18 9:50:48 PM #79:	pyresword posted... he's saying "the American government should value American lives more when dictating policies". that's not what he said. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:901472484] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>pyresword posted...</cite> <quote>he's saying "the American government should value American lives more when dictating policies".</quote> that's not what he said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/16/18 9:51:54 PM #80:	pyresword posted... Guys he's not saying "American lives are more valuable" he's saying "the American government should value American lives more when dictating policies". If it wasnt MWC I might believe you --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901472536] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>pyresword posted...</cite> <quote>Guys he's not saying "American lives are more valuable" he's saying "the American government should value American lives more when dictating policies". </quote> If it wasnt MWC I might believe you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UInstinctGogeta 05/16/18 9:52:16 PM #81:	Inviso posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... Dancedreamer posted... As Americans and the country that claims to be leader of the free world I believe it is our foremost duty to be better than our enemies. To treat all human beings with respect. To treat them all the way we would like our own combatants treated. I do fault Obama for ordering so many drone strikes that cost civilian lives. It's one of his major weaknesses. The major weaknesses of both of our major political parties. Legal or not, torture is wrong. As soon as we start treating others as less than human, we become a little less human ourselves. It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. You torture if it saves people. Terrorist lives be damned. There is actually no proof that torture does anything beneficial to America, IIRC. The real world isn't 24. Ok. I'll bite.... where would one get this information. <cite>UInstinctGogeta posted [p:901472562] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote>As Americans and the country that claims to be leader of the free world I believe it is our foremost duty to be better than our enemies. To treat all human beings with respect. To treat them all the way we would like our own combatants treated. I do fault Obama for ordering so many drone strikes that cost civilian lives. It's one of his major weaknesses. The major weaknesses of both of our major political parties. Legal or not, torture is wrong. As soon as we start treating others as less than human, we become a little less human ourselves.</quote> It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. You torture if it saves people. Terrorist lives be damned.</quote> There is actually no proof that torture does anything beneficial to America, IIRC. The real world isn't 24.</quote> Ok. I'll bite.... where would one get this information.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 05/16/18 9:52:31 PM #82:	Corrik posted... None of them ended up doing it. Trump is just the first who kept his word on it. That's just it though. None of them did it. They may have talked about it. But actions are more important than words. If Obama had moved the embassy I'd have criticized him for it. I'm not going to criticize him for something he said he was going to do that I don't think he should do that he didn't actually do. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:901472579] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>None of them ended up doing it. Trump is just the first who kept his word on it. </quote> That's just it though. None of them did it. They may have talked about it. But actions are more important than words. If Obama had moved the embassy I'd have criticized him for it. I'm not going to criticize him for something he said he was going to do that I don't think he should do that he didn't actually do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/16/18 9:55:28 PM #83:	Corrik posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... It wouldn't be enough though universal healthcare would be the optimal system. Most agree on that. Have you talked to conservatives lately? Heck MWC is right here, hell tell you he shouldnt have to pay for someone elses doctor visit. Universal Healthcare has bipartisan support from the people in every poll I have seen. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/23/public-support-for-single-payer-health-coverage-grows-driven-by-democrats/ The issue of the governments responsibility in ensuring health coverage remains deeply divisive politically, according to the new survey, conducted June 8-18 among 2,504 adults. More than eight-in-ten Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents (85%) say that this responsibility falls to the federal government, while about two-thirds of Republicans and Republican leaners (68%) say it does not. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901472717] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> It wouldn't be enough though universal healthcare would be the optimal system. Most agree on that.</quote> Have you talked to conservatives lately? Heck MWC is right here, hell tell you he shouldnt have to pay for someone elses doctor visit.</quote> Universal Healthcare has bipartisan support from the people in every poll I have seen.</quote> http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/23/public-support-for-single-payer-health-coverage-grows-driven-by-democrats/ <quote>The issue of the governments responsibility in ensuring health coverage remains deeply divisive politically, according to the new survey, conducted June 8-18 among 2,504 adults. More than eight-in-ten Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents (85%) say that this responsibility falls to the federal government, while about two-thirds of Republicans and Republican leaners (68%) say it does not.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelesMyUserName 05/16/18 9:55:34 PM #84:	reminder that MWC is a 2nd amendment advocate for a theoretical uprising against a tyrannical US government so long as your militia doesn't have stones tho --- https://imgur.com/U7qSWmn something something hung something horse something <cite>CelesMyUserName posted [p:901472722] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote>reminder that MWC is a 2nd amendment advocate for a theoretical uprising against a tyrannical US government so long as your militia doesn't have stones tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/16/18 10:00:38 PM #85:	http://news.gallup.com/poll/223391/majority-government-ensure-healthcare-coverage.aspx http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/k52ypgoib0iaisno2ebilw.png --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901472996] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote>http://news.gallup.com/poll/223391/majority-government-ensure-healthcare-coverage.aspx http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/k52ypgoib0iaisno2ebilw.png</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/16/18 10:01:31 PM #86:	Do you want me to find more? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901473044] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote>Do you want me to find more?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UInstinctGogeta 05/16/18 10:02:39 PM #87:	Dancedreamer posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. So why not start torturing Americans too? I mean if it's going to save lives. Also ban guns while we're at it. American Lives are on the line! No problems with torturing Americans connected to Terrorism. <cite>UInstinctGogeta posted [p:901473116] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote>It's not. Lives are on the line. More importantly American lives are on the line. </quote> So why not start torturing Americans too? I mean if it's going to save lives. Also ban guns while we're at it. American Lives are on the line!</quote> No problems with torturing Americans connected to Terrorism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UInstinctGogeta 05/16/18 10:05:17 PM #88:	Inviso posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... CelesMyUserName posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this. Yeah no, "we didn't do anything!" isn't something America is allowed to claim here. At all. Well I'm certainly claiming it... They can shut the fuck up, and if they don't want to apparently some one is gonna do it for them. DON'T FUCKING RIOT!!!!! America did nothing that didn't help her. All that matters. How did moving this embassy help America? How does it physically benefit us to rile up and agitate a portion of the world's population that already has great cause to hate us...all so we can make an flashy gesture to a country that is already a guaranteed ally? I was more speaking of Iran... The Jerusalem thing is just something that needs to be righted. It belongs where it's gonna be. I'm sorry if this angers them, but should we go out of our way to not make people angry by not righting a wrong. <cite>UInstinctGogeta posted [p:901473264] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CelesMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote>You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this.</quote> Yeah no, "we didn't do anything!" isn't something America is allowed to claim here. At all.</quote> Well I'm certainly claiming it... They can shut the fuck up, and if they don't want to apparently some one is gonna do it for them. DON'T FUCKING RIOT!!!!! America did nothing that didn't help her. All that matters.</quote> How did moving this embassy help America? How does it physically benefit us to rile up and agitate a portion of the world's population that already has great cause to hate us...all so we can make an flashy gesture to a country that is already a guaranteed ally?</quote> I was more speaking of Iran... The Jerusalem thing is just something that needs to be righted. It belongs where it's gonna be. I'm sorry if this angers them, but should we go out of our way to not make people angry by not righting a wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 05/16/18 10:06:03 PM #89:	Mwc and corrik have really outdone themselves. Incredible. Just when you think they can sink no lower...they whip out something new. Truly amazing. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:901473312] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote>Mwc and corrik have really outdone themselves. Incredible. Just when you think they can sink no lower...they whip out something new. Truly amazing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UInstinctGogeta 05/16/18 10:07:25 PM #90:	Jakyl25 posted... pyresword posted... Guys he's not saying "American lives are more valuable" he's saying "the American government should value American lives more when dictating policies". If it wasnt MWC I might believe you That's actually exactly what I'm saying.. and I've said that multiple times in this series. Our government and especially President should ONLY care about non American lives if it's a neutral or better for US. It's not their job <cite>UInstinctGogeta posted [p:901473389] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pyresword posted...</cite> <quote>Guys he's not saying "American lives are more valuable" he's saying "the American government should value American lives more when dictating policies". </quote> If it wasnt MWC I might believe you</quote> That's actually exactly what I'm saying.. and I've said that multiple times in this series. Our government and especially President should ONLY care about non American lives if it's a neutral or better for US. It's not their job</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 05/16/18 10:09:22 PM #91:	UInstinctGogeta posted... Inviso posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... CelesMyUserName posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this. Yeah no, "we didn't do anything!" isn't something America is allowed to claim here. At all. Well I'm certainly claiming it... They can shut the fuck up, and if they don't want to apparently some one is gonna do it for them. DON'T FUCKING RIOT!!!!! America did nothing that didn't help her. All that matters. How did moving this embassy help America? How does it physically benefit us to rile up and agitate a portion of the world's population that already has great cause to hate us...all so we can make an flashy gesture to a country that is already a guaranteed ally? I was more speaking of Iran... The Jerusalem thing is just something that needs to be righted. It belongs where it's gonna be. I'm sorry if this angers them, but should we go out of our way to not make people angry by not righting a wrong. How does pulling out of the Iran deal help America? Based on what I've read, we've already unfrozen the assets seized from Iran, so they've already gotten those back as part of the deal. Pulling out at this point does little to help America other than allowing Iran to restart their nuclear program in the knowledge that America's president hates them. There is no benefit at this point. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:901473487] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CelesMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote>You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this.</quote> Yeah no, "we didn't do anything!" isn't something America is allowed to claim here. At all.</quote> Well I'm certainly claiming it... They can shut the fuck up, and if they don't want to apparently some one is gonna do it for them. DON'T FUCKING RIOT!!!!! America did nothing that didn't help her. All that matters.</quote> How did moving this embassy help America? How does it physically benefit us to rile up and agitate a portion of the world's population that already has great cause to hate us...all so we can make an flashy gesture to a country that is already a guaranteed ally?</quote> I was more speaking of Iran... The Jerusalem thing is just something that needs to be righted. It belongs where it's gonna be. I'm sorry if this angers them, but should we go out of our way to not make people angry by not righting a wrong.</quote> How does pulling out of the Iran deal help America? Based on what I've read, we've already unfrozen the assets seized from Iran, so they've already gotten those back as part of the deal. Pulling out at this point does little to help America other than allowing Iran to restart their nuclear program in the knowledge that America's president hates them. There is no benefit at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/16/18 10:12:26 PM #92:	Inviso posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... Inviso posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... CelesMyUserName posted... UInstinctGogeta posted... You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this. Yeah no, "we didn't do anything!" isn't something America is allowed to claim here. At all. Well I'm certainly claiming it... They can shut the fuck up, and if they don't want to apparently some one is gonna do it for them. DON'T FUCKING RIOT!!!!! America did nothing that didn't help her. All that matters. How did moving this embassy help America? How does it physically benefit us to rile up and agitate a portion of the world's population that already has great cause to hate us...all so we can make an flashy gesture to a country that is already a guaranteed ally? I was more speaking of Iran... The Jerusalem thing is just something that needs to be righted. It belongs where it's gonna be. I'm sorry if this angers them, but should we go out of our way to not make people angry by not righting a wrong. How does pulling out of the Iran deal help America? Based on what I've read, we've already unfrozen the assets seized from Iran, so they've already gotten those back as part of the deal. Pulling out at this point does little to help America other than allowing Iran to restart their nuclear program in the knowledge that America's president hates them. There is no benefit at this point. We shouldn't have pulled out of the Iran deal despite it being a bad deal, imo. What's done was done there already. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901473606] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CelesMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote>You're blaming Americans for Palestinians rioting?... They could... not. We didn't force them to go outside and do this.</quote> Yeah no, "we didn't do anything!" isn't something America is allowed to claim here. At all.</quote> Well I'm certainly claiming it... They can shut the fuck up, and if they don't want to apparently some one is gonna do it for them. DON'T FUCKING RIOT!!!!! America did nothing that didn't help her. All that matters.</quote> How did moving this embassy help America? How does it physically benefit us to rile up and agitate a portion of the world's population that already has great cause to hate us...all so we can make an flashy gesture to a country that is already a guaranteed ally?</quote> I was more speaking of Iran... The Jerusalem thing is just something that needs to be righted. It belongs where it's gonna be. I'm sorry if this angers them, but should we go out of our way to not make people angry by not righting a wrong.</quote> How does pulling out of the Iran deal help America? Based on what I've read, we've already unfrozen the assets seized from Iran, so they've already gotten those back as part of the deal. Pulling out at this point does little to help America other than allowing Iran to restart their nuclear program in the knowledge that America's president hates them. There is no benefit at this point.</quote> We shouldn't have pulled out of the Iran deal despite it being a bad deal, imo. What's done was done there already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UInstinctGogeta 05/16/18 10:13:50 PM #93:	Corrik posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... It wouldn't be enough though universal healthcare would be the optimal system. Most agree on that. Have you talked to conservatives lately? Heck MWC is right here, hell tell you he shouldnt have to pay for someone elses doctor visit. Universal Healthcare has bipartisan support from the people in every poll I have seen. No... he's right. Can confirm <cite>UInstinctGogeta posted [p:901473682] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> It wouldn't be enough though universal healthcare would be the optimal system. Most agree on that.</quote> Have you talked to conservatives lately? Heck MWC is right here, hell tell you he shouldnt have to pay for someone elses doctor visit.</quote> Universal Healthcare has bipartisan support from the people in every poll I have seen.</quote> No... he's right. Can confirm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 05/16/18 10:15:39 PM #94:	Corrik posted... despite it being a bad deal, Why was it a bad deal? --- ~C~ FD https://imgur.com/dGDfxaw <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:901473770] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>despite it being a bad deal,</quote> Why was it a bad deal?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UInstinctGogeta 05/16/18 10:15:56 PM #95:	CelesMyUserName posted... reminder that MWC is a 2nd amendment advocate for a theoretical uprising against a tyrannical US government so long as your militia doesn't have stones tho So were our Forefathers..... LITERALLY the best people ever born on Earth. <cite>UInstinctGogeta posted [p:901473787] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>CelesMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote>reminder that MWC is a 2nd amendment advocate for a theoretical uprising against a tyrannical US government so long as your militia doesn't have stones tho</quote> So were our Forefathers..... LITERALLY the best people ever born on Earth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/16/18 10:17:39 PM #96:	https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/politics/giuliani-trump-stormy-daniels-payment/index.html More 4D chess from Rudy --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901473869] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/politics/giuliani-trump-stormy-daniels-payment/index.html More 4D chess from Rudy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/16/18 10:18:00 PM #97:	Jakyl25 posted... http://news.gallup.com/poll/223391/majority-government-ensure-healthcare-coverage.aspx http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/k52ypgoib0iaisno2ebilw.png I definitely was wrong on that. No idea what I was looking at. I do not think single payer healthcare is our government's "responsibility" to provide, but I do agree with going to that method as the best for our country. The importance is to offer equally to everyone. Just like living stipends. They are fine if EVERYONE receives them. When you start saying only the poor or so and so should receive shit, you lost me completely. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901473886] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>http://news.gallup.com/poll/223391/majority-government-ensure-healthcare-coverage.aspx http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/k52ypgoib0iaisno2ebilw.png</quote> I definitely was wrong on that. No idea what I was looking at. I do not think single payer healthcare is our government's "responsibility" to provide, but I do agree with going to that method as the best for our country. The importance is to offer equally to everyone. Just like living stipends. They are fine if EVERYONE receives them. When you start saying only the poor or so and so should receive shit, you lost me completely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/16/18 10:18:03 PM #98:	UInstinctGogeta posted... CelesMyUserName posted... reminder that MWC is a 2nd amendment advocate for a theoretical uprising against a tyrannical US government so long as your militia doesn't have stones tho So were our Forefathers..... LITERALLY the best people ever born on Earth. Jesus? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901473888] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CelesMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote>reminder that MWC is a 2nd amendment advocate for a theoretical uprising against a tyrannical US government so long as your militia doesn't have stones tho</quote> So were our Forefathers..... LITERALLY the best people ever born on Earth.</quote> Jesus?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 05/16/18 10:18:18 PM #99:	Forceful_Dragon posted... Corrik posted... despite it being a bad deal, Why was it a bad deal? We have had this discussion multiple times. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:901473898] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote><cite>Forceful_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>despite it being a bad deal,</quote> Why was it a bad deal?</quote> We have had this discussion multiple times.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 05/16/18 10:20:12 PM #100:	Just pointing this out from one year ago today: 5/16/2017 FIVETHIRTYEIGHT - Even The Biggest Scandals Cant Kill Party Loyalty Overall, though, the lesson from history is simple. In the wake of Comeys firing, Democrats are encouraging Republicans to put country over party. In making this call, they are essentially asking congressional Republicans to do something politicians historically have not: push for punishments and the potential removal of a president from their own party. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/even-the-biggest-scandals-cant-kill-party-loyalty/ One year later and it's still true: it's on America to vote for how they want impeachment hearings to go, not just count on the President's party to turn on the President. --- Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX! https://imgur.com/Dr4NAeq <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:901473997] in Politics C... [t:76614086]...</cite> <quote>Just pointing this out from one year ago today: 5/16/2017 FIVETHIRTYEIGHT - Even The Biggest Scandals Cant Kill Party Loyalty Overall, though, the lesson from history is simple. In the wake of Comeys firing, Democrats are encouraging Republicans to put country over party. In making this call, they are essentially asking congressional Republicans to do something politicians historically have not: push for punishments and the potential removal of a president from their own party. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/even-the-biggest-scandals-cant-kill-party-loyalty/ One year later and it's still true: it's on America to vote for how they want impeachment hearings to go, not just count on the President's party to turn on the President.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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