Board 8 > Finally watched Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (spoilers)

(+) Yeah! (+)

I liked it better than the first, and better than the Avengers movies. I think Guardians is basically Avengers where the teammates have more meaningful (if cheesy) relationships.

random thoughts:
- a lot of very cool moments, visually. groot intro scene, people floating in space, the unrelenting spaceship assault on gamora in the cave, yondu's arrow
- like i said above, the relationships between the characters really make this movie, even if there are some eye rolling cliches. the yondu/rocket thing was explained a little too plainly for the audience imo, but the others were done well. i particularly liked drax/mantis.
- lmao the hoff
- i still don't like chris pratt as an actor. he's just the same dude in parks and rec/jurassic world/guardians. which is fine, except the seams of his acting abilities start to show when he has to show actual emotion. (though I think the scene with his walkman was pretty good)
- ego was done really well for a character that had to be introduced and then killed in a single movie. but uh.... it seems like he should have been a way bigger threat than a single movie? he literally started destroying multiple worlds at the same time.
- so quill was like... the most powerful superhero for a quick minute,right? and now he's just a regular human after about 5 minutes of dbz powers?
- i don't really care about blue robo-chick, but i can't tell if it's because the character is boring or if it's because the actress can't act.
- hot damn yondu is badass. he's got the coolest weapon. I think he's the part of the film that elevates it beyond just another good MCU film.
- the scene where the one ravager starts shouting because the other ravager crews show up at the end actually got me a little emotional
- I did not understand a single word stalone said
- bradley cooper as Rocket is one of the best things about Guardians. drax is fantastic too.
- too much baby groot
- holy shit a whole bunch of Watchers
- was stan lee's line about being a fedex guy a reference to civil war? was he actually there as stan lee?
- oh look a zune

im really interested to see how the team interacts with the Avengers because they're legitimately unaware of the Avengers' existence and have been exposed to threats way bigger than Earth.

but first, thor 3 and black panther left on my backlog.
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Snrkiko posted...

- was stan lee's line about being a fedex guy a reference to civil war? was he actually there as stan lee?

it's confirmed that every stan lee cameo is the same character as an informer for the watchers
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FFDragon posted...

Snrkiko posted...

- was stan lee's line about being a fedex guy a reference to civil war? was he actually there as stan lee?

it's confirmed that every stan lee cameo is the same character as an informer for the watchers

whoa
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FFDragon posted...

Snrkiko posted...

- was stan lee's line about being a fedex guy a reference to civil war? was he actually there as stan lee?

it's confirmed that every stan lee cameo is the same character as an informer for the watchers

And he's also not entirely subject to the laws of time because he references his Civil War cameo but GotG2 is set in 2014, prior to Civil War.

Granted that's probably just an oversight but hey I like the idea of Time Lord Stan Lee.
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Murphiroth posted...

FFDragon posted...

Snrkiko posted...

- was stan lee's line about being a fedex guy a reference to civil war? was he actually there as stan lee?

it's confirmed that every stan lee cameo is the same character as an informer for the watchers

And he's also not entirely subject to the laws of time because he references his Civil War cameo but GotG2 is set in 2014, prior to Civil War.

Granted that's probably just an oversight but hey I like the idea of Time Lord Stan Lee.

wait so does he also go back to pre-mcu movies? multi-dimensional time lord? or has the retcon not gone that far yet
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Snrkiko posted...

wait so does he also go back to pre-mcu movies? multi-dimensional time lord? or has the retcon not gone that far yet

Theoretically the more movies like Captain America and Captain Marvel we get, the more credibility this time-space jumping gains.
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I read an interview that said they wanted to have him reference him being a dj at a stripclub (Deadpool) so it's possible for him to exist in multiple timelines.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Snrkiko posted...

wait so does he also go back to pre-mcu movies? multi-dimensional time lord? or has the retcon not gone that far yet

Theoretically the more movies like Captain America and Captain Marvel we get, the more credibility this time-space jumping gains.

i was thinking more like sony's spiderman movies, or the xmen movies, or the daredevil movie lol
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Right, but first you have to establish that he has the ability to move between eras in this current universe. Depending on how X-Men get introduced into the MCU, that may outright answer the question.
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I really liked this movie and don't fully get the hate it gets
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HashtagSEP posted...

I really liked this movie and don't fully get the hate it gets

"Hate" is kind of a strong word. This ain't Thor 2, or even Iron Man 3.
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HashtagSEP posted...

I really liked this movie and don't fully get the hate it gets

what's to hate? it's not top 5 mcu, but it's definitely still great (as all of phase 3 has been so far)
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redrocket posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

I really liked this movie and don't fully get the hate it gets

"Hate" is kind of a strong word. This ain't Thor 2, or even Iron Man 3.

iron man 3 was great imo
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HashtagSEP posted...

I really liked this movie and don't fully get the hate it gets

it gets hate?

i've seen plenty of people go "it wasn't great and it was worse than the first one" (which would also be my opinion, coincidentally), but i don't remember a lot of people going "OMG THIS WAS AWFUL."
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There was definitely a topic on this board of people saying it was bad when it came out because I was like "whaaat"

Maybe people softened on it since
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i liked it better than vol 1

i think.

maybe I'll rewatch vol 1 because that one was okay but i remember not loving it as much as everyone else did
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They're both in my top five but I don't know which I like better
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HashtagSEP posted...

There was definitely a topic on this board of people saying it was bad when it came out because I was like "whaaat"

Maybe people softened on it since

I'm pretty sure that was mostly just the person who made the topic. Don't remember who that was.
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kevwaffles posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

There was definitely a topic on this board of people saying it was bad when it came out because I was like "whaaat"

Maybe people softened on it since

I'm pretty sure that was mostly just the person who made the topic. Don't remember who that was.

Nanis?
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kevwaffles posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

There was definitely a topic on this board of people saying it was bad when it came out because I was like "whaaat"

Maybe people softened on it since

I'm pretty sure that was mostly just the person who made the topic. Don't remember who that was.

I actually could buy that. Like, maybe it was whoever made the topic and then somebody like NFUN and Eddv jumped in on it because they can't resist. I honestly can't remember.
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oh yeah

that I was surprised to see that sons of anarchy guy in this movie too

chibb? the irishman
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I will admit I have my complaints about GotG2, and while I don't think it met the standard for GotG1, it was still a very enjoyable movie.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

kevwaffles posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

There was definitely a topic on this board of people saying it was bad when it came out because I was like "whaaat"

Maybe people softened on it since

I'm pretty sure that was mostly just the person who made the topic. Don't remember who that was.

Nanis?

He made a Homecoming hate topic IIRC but I don't think it was him for GotG2.

I remember someone complaining that the Yondu/Quill relationship wasn't hinted at in the first movie which is like blatantly false but I can't remember if that was here or on the comics board.
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vol. 1 was better imo. better music, better pacing (i feel like the first half of vol. 2 was nothing but jokes and they saved all the serious stuff for the second half), and better written humor (you know you're out of ideas when you can't come up with something better than a joke about drax's poop).

vol. 1 is one of my favorite MCU movies, though, so i'm not saying vol. 2 is bad.
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Yea I liked Vol 1 more but Vol 2 is still really really good

I just love the Guardians in general, especially Rocket and Drax
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I think the entire point of drax is extremely loud laughing at very stupid things
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Snrkiko posted...

- the scene where the one ravager starts shouting because the other ravager crews show up at the end actually got me a little emotional

I actually rewatched this also and was actually having feels from Yondu's last scene onward, but that was that part that really got me was when Kraglin was so overcome with emotion that he just screams. Really well done.

Yondu is my favorite part of the movie though. The character is just so well done and his scene on the ship is just perfect and fun. You can really feel for his story the most I thought, since Michael Rooker is one hell of an actor and makes the most of all of his lines. I like the lines in particular "He may have been your father, but he weren't your daddy." and "I ain't never done the right thing in my life before, so let me have this."
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I wonder what happens when Stan lee dies. Do they just cgi him like Leila and Tarkin?
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I guess we'll find out in 30 years.
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20 years from now when they attempt an Earth X movie...

Machine Man turns out to have been Stan Lee all along
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Mega Mana posted...

20 years from now when they attempt an Earth X movie...

Machine Man turns out to have been Stan Lee all along

Why would you say "Earth X movie" and get my hopes up so much.

Although we all know it would be more fun to get 3 HBO seasons instead
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oh yeah

there was a lot more howard the duck than i was expecting
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

(you know you're out of ideas when you can't come up with something better than a joke about drax's poop).

But they're FAMOUSLY huge
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Really though, Drax stole the show IMO

we're talking about a series where everyone is nuts over Rocket and Groot, and gave THEM all of the one note jokes with poor delivery and then Drax somehow came out on top with the comedy
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another note

im really happy they had the balls to kill yondu in the end. i love him as a character but the entire thing would have felt cheapened if he somehow made it out of that. the entire scene was really well done, too.
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Snrkiko posted...

- the scene where the one ravager starts shouting because the other ravager crews show up at the end actually got me a little emotional

for some reason I had no idea what you were talking about until someone Mentioned Kraglin

I couldn't put 2 and 2 together with that description

Snrkiko posted...

- i don't really care about blue robo-chick, but i can't tell if it's because the character is boring or if it's because the actress can't act.

shes just Gamora's Morality pet
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I thought it was significantly worse than the first one, but still enjoyable.

It felt too much like "Starlord: The Movie" and the focus was taken off the side characters. Drax is a tragic, unintentionally funny character in the first one but in this movie he's solely there for jokes with zero development. Yondu's focus is almost solely the sake of "he's Quill's REAL daddy."

Like, it was fine and everything but it felt significantly less refreshing than the first film.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Snrkiko posted...

- the scene where the one ravager starts shouting because the other ravager crews show up at the end actually got me a little emotional

I actually rewatched this also and was actually having feels from Yondu's last scene onward, but that was that part that really got me was when Kraglin was so overcome with emotion that he just screams. Really well done.

Yondu is my favorite part of the movie though. The character is just so well done and his scene on the ship is just perfect and fun. You can really feel for his story the most I thought, since Michael Rooker is one hell of an actor and makes the most of all of his lines. I like the lines in particular "He may have been your father, but he weren't your daddy." and "I ain't never done the right thing in my life before, so let me have this."

Yeah, everything having to do with Yondu is easily the best part of GotG2. This wasn't the case in GotG1 but he doesn't get nearly the same focus there. GotG2 is arguably more his story than anyone else's including Starlord's.

(It's why I'm not too worried about not having him around in GotG3.)
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I wouldn't say it's bad but I did think it was mediocre by Marvel movie standards. Yondu (and Nebula to a lesser extent) basically carries the movie.

I think what's weird about it is how split people are on Vol 2. The movie is sort of all over the place and so are people's ratings of it. You don't generally see that with the other Marvel movies. There's Avengers 2 but that's more of a love/hate deal.
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Thew Star-Lord/Ego plot is the center of the movie, sure, but the Yondu, Rocket, Nebula/Gamora plots, and a good helping of Mantis (and the quiet moments from Drax) are more than solid. The only one who gets zero development is Groot who... ,,,,......... ... oh.... oh god... He's... oh god....

Groot is Michelle Tanner. Rocket, Star-Lord, and Drax? Yondu? are his three daddies. Gamora is DJ. Nebula is Stephanie. Mantis is Kimmy Gibbler.
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Both 1 and 2 are among the best MCU movies. Not sure which I like better though.

Coincidentally I'm watching them right now so I'll find out soon!
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Snrkiko posted...

<iron man 3 was great imo

Also this. So much this.
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people's ratings of iron man 3 are kinda all over the place too (though most people are probably in the "it sucks" camp on that one).
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Iron Man 3 is still good and I get sad when I see people rank it among Iron Man 2 status
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Iron Man 3 is low tier MCU, but still way better than Iron Man 2.
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Justin Hammer is the best Iron Man villain so far. There. I said it.
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Iron Man 3 was so good

it was super suspenseful since it was like how the fuck is Tony Stark gonna do this, but he shows you why hes Stark

and all of the Iron suits showing up at the end was super hype

Pepper kicking ass was the red headed cherry on top
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don't get the people who hate iron man 3 but i don't get the "it was so great!!" people either. it was fine but it wasn't a masterpiece.
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I'm always surprised how hated Iron Man 2 is. I thought it was solid.
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