Board 8 > I found a Red Eyes Black Dragon card while visiting my parents.

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paperwarior
05/15/18 8:21:09 PM
#1:


Is this as useless as it looks?
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Punnyz
05/15/18 8:28:18 PM
#2:


Thats like, Joey's best card

you tell me
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paperwarior
05/15/18 8:31:24 PM
#3:


I mean, it's a 2 tribute monster with 2400/2000 and no added effect. The only thing that could redeem it is other cards that specifically require it for something.
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NowItsAngeTime
05/15/18 8:37:28 PM
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in the original series only set it was probably decent.

Now with so many efficient ways to Synchro/XYZ/whatever summon strong monsters with stupidly good effects in a single turn while still being able to summon another makes him poopy
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redrocket
05/15/18 9:16:13 PM
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https://yerl.org/vgyi8

This version is pretty good, especially for a common! Too bad the game is essentially dead now :(
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kateee
05/15/18 9:18:40 PM
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even in the original sets there was no reason to ever use it over Blue Eyes since it's a level 7 requiring 2 tributes for 2400 ATK.

maybe if you wanted to summon B. Skull but trying to use old Polymerization to actually fuse things was really bad.
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Zigzagoon
05/15/18 9:40:59 PM
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100% of all old yugioh cards are completely useless

Probably the biggest power creep offender out there
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paperwarior
05/16/18 1:57:17 AM
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I never totally understood Polymerization. I just never used it in EDS. Is that other game Dungeon Dice Monsters? I enjoyed the video game of that.
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GTM
05/16/18 2:05:41 AM
#9:


kateee posted...
maybe if you wanted to summon B. Skull


I mean if you're going that route, you're probably better off using just Summoned Skull, who is stronger and requires less tributes, and removing the REBD cards from your deck entirely.
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foolm0r0n
05/16/18 2:09:01 AM
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I remember even on the playground back in the day no one wanted that card cuz it sucked
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kateee
05/16/18 3:12:50 AM
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yeah i meant if you wanted to summon B. Skull for the cool factor because Red Eyes sure as hell wasn't worth running
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do_ob_tpkillr
05/16/18 4:55:25 AM
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I know that there's a whole archetype for Red Eyes now so who knows?

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Red-Eyes
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paperwarior
05/16/18 10:55:36 AM
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Looks like they made a bunch of Red Eyes versions of better cards, huh.
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Johnbobb
05/16/18 11:25:27 AM
#14:


Punnyz posted...
Thats like, Joey's best card

you tell me

Time Wizard would like a word with you
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Johnbobb
05/16/18 11:26:24 AM
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also

https://imgur.com/sb5qycl
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JeffreyRaze
05/16/18 11:28:56 AM
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I wound up getting a legendary collection out of nostalgia, and there is a ton of Red Eyes support in the Joey deck. I don't know how good the vanilla version is in that, but there's a million ways to cheat it out now.
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KokoroAkechi
05/16/18 11:48:42 AM
#17:


There are tons of ways to cheat better stuff out in modern yugioh.
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htaeD
05/16/18 11:55:32 AM
#18:


meh
dueling with the best decks is not fun
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UInstinctGogeta
05/16/18 12:11:38 PM
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Zigzagoon posted...
100% of all old yugioh cards are completely useless

Probably the biggest power creep offender out there


One of the DUMBEST things ever said.

Half the ban list is cards from magic rulers for crying out loud (the second set).... when they had no idea how to balance, if anything the opposite is true. There is no way possible to power creep some of the early cards.

Blue Eyes won Worlds last year.... a deck that runs on having 3 vanilla blue eyes white dragons in it.
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UInstinctGogeta
05/16/18 12:14:19 PM
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do_ob_tpkillr posted...
I know that there's a whole archetype for Red Eyes now so who knows?

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Red-Eyes


Red Eyes is awful cause it has no idea what it is.... is it a fusion turbo deck, is it Gemini, is it Burn? It has tons of different ways it can go, none of them good
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GTM
05/16/18 9:50:30 PM
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I mean if the cards are banned, they are pretty useless
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GTM
05/16/18 9:50:51 PM
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and magic ruler was the third set [snort]
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Pirateking2000
05/17/18 12:01:26 AM
#23:


Johnbobb posted...
Punnyz posted...
Thats like, Joey's best card

you tell me

Time Wizard would like a word with you


Needs more Flame Swordsman (okay maybe not best but hey it was his favorite card!)
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UInstinctGogeta
05/17/18 12:12:01 AM
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GTM posted...
and magic ruler was the third set [snort]


Are you counting the Starter decks in the TCG?

Did it not go LoB, Magic Ruler?
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UInstinctGogeta
05/17/18 12:14:12 AM
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His best was Gilford the Lightning by the way.

I would say Red Eyes was at best his 4th best monster card.

After that, Jinzo, and Gearfried the Iron Knight.
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kateee
05/17/18 12:14:19 AM
#26:


LoB -> Metal Raiders -> Magic Ruler
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UInstinctGogeta
05/17/18 12:15:18 AM
#27:


kateee posted...
LoB -> Metal Raiders -> Magic Ruler


Huh...

Was anything good in Metal Raiders (totally thought that was the third).

Thx
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UInstinctGogeta
05/17/18 12:17:07 AM
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GTM posted...
I mean if the cards are banned, they are pretty useless


While this is true, he said old cards were useless cause of power creep, not because you can't play them anymore.

And that simply not true when the ban list of Spell cards might as well be called "Magic Rulers and friends"
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Pirateking2000
05/17/18 12:18:32 AM
#29:


Johnbobb posted...
also

https://imgur.com/sb5qycl


Joey was great I am still annoyed how fucked over he got in the Marik duel.
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foolm0r0n
05/17/18 12:21:30 AM
#30:


Joey had Sword & Shield too didn't he?

That card rocks with Labyrinth Wall
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kateee
05/17/18 12:32:56 AM
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UInstinctGogeta posted...
Was anything good in Metal Raiders (totally thought that was the third).

i mean some of them by now are obviously not good but there's some good stuff there (with stuff that's still OP) along with good stuff for collectors

Solemn Judgment
Change of Heart
Mirror Force
Magician of Faith
Tribute to the Doomed
Kuriboh
Seven Tools
Witch of the Black Forest
Gate Guardian & parts
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UInstinctGogeta
05/17/18 12:35:22 AM
#32:


kateee posted...
UInstinctGogeta posted...
Was anything good in Metal Raiders (totally thought that was the third).

i mean some of them by now are obviously not good but there's some good stuff there (with stuff that's still OP) along with good stuff for collectors

Solemn Judgment
Change of Heart

Mirror Force
Magician of Faith
Tribute to the Doomed
Kuriboh
Seven Tools
Witch of the Black Forest

Gate Guardian & parts


Jesus fuck....

Who the hell was in charge of balance of early Yugioh....?

Yeah. That's a really strong set.
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kateee
05/17/18 12:35:48 AM
#33:


i mean compared to Magic Ruler which pretty much only has MST/Giant Trunade/Delinquent Duo, Metal Raiders is banging.

Magic Ruler was the set with Toon World & Rituals capitalizing off of anime hype.
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kateee
05/17/18 12:38:02 AM
#34:


oh yeah Metal Raiders also had Ultra Rare Summoned Skull. that was like the best combo card with Witch of the Black Forest in fifth grade.
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