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ImAppleJackFU 05/14/18 11:06:57 AM #1:	-Zoos are forced to slaughter animals to feed others in Venezuela, where bone-thin pumas have become the face of the crisis -Emaciated animals at Venezuela's zoos reflect the country's economic collapse -Rising numbers of desperate people are eating dogs, with prisoners eating rats -Venezuela's economy has collapsed in recent months causing poverty to spiral -Food shortages are growing amid a mass migration from the country http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5449023/Venezuelans-eat-rats-dogs-economy-nosedives.html Please, before you slam the source being the Daily Mail, let me tell you that the Venezuelan humanatirarin crisis is extremely real and serious, there is an exodus of people from the country to other South American nations, Brazil alone gets about 1.000 new Venezuelan refugees daily. Many of these folks have degrees, but they prefer to live as beggars and sex workers in Brazil then to work their jobs in Venezuela. As a fellow Latino this makes me very sad. The country HAS RAN OUT OF FOOD. Im not even talking about staple products like toilet paper and toothpaste, those have been gone from socialist Venezuela for awhile now, im talking about food. Its odd because Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world, they should at least be able to maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with. --- I mean, at least they're all equals under socialism, right, right??? --- https://imgur.com/hZaYwOx - https://cdn.awwni.me/11s41.png - https://imgur.com/2xyxQ9c https://imgur.com/sStfXr2 - https://cdn.awwni.me/11rp4.png <cite>ImAppleJackFU posted [p:901320624] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote>-Zoos are forced to slaughter animals to feed others in Venezuela, where bone-thin pumas have become the face of the crisis -Emaciated animals at Venezuela's zoos reflect the country's economic collapse -Rising numbers of desperate people are eating dogs, with prisoners eating rats -Venezuela's economy has collapsed in recent months causing poverty to spiral -Food shortages are growing amid a mass migration from the country http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5449023/Venezuelans-eat-rats-dogs-economy-nosedives.html Please, before you slam the source being the Daily Mail, let me tell you that the Venezuelan humanatirarin crisis is extremely real and serious, there is an exodus of people from the country to other South American nations, Brazil alone gets about 1.000 new Venezuelan refugees daily. Many of these folks have degrees, but they prefer to live as beggars and sex workers in Brazil then to work their jobs in Venezuela. As a fellow Latino this makes me very sad. The country HAS RAN OUT OF FOOD. Im not even talking about staple products like toilet paper and toothpaste, those have been gone from socialist Venezuela for awhile now, im talking about food. Its odd because Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world, they should at least be able to maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with. --- I mean, at least they're all equals under socialism, right, right???</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 05/14/18 11:07:48 AM #2:	It's not the fault of socialism that Venezuela is poor. It's the fault of low oil prices. --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:901320654] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote>It's not the fault of socialism that Venezuela is poor. It's the fault of low oil prices.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 05/14/18 11:08:11 AM #3:	Everyone becomes equally poor and starving under socialism. Poverty is the only thing you can end up redistributing. <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:901320671] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote>Everyone becomes equally poor and starving under socialism. Poverty is the only thing you can end up redistributing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Burgess 05/14/18 11:08:17 AM #4:	Sounds just like Illinois with its property taxes am I right. --- Burgess [Z?] ...follow the Mod that failed. "All that typing made me have to crap."~Dark Magic Vixen <cite>Burgess posted [p:901320681] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote>Sounds just like Illinois with its property taxes am I right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 05/14/18 11:08:30 AM #5:	ImAppleJackFU posted... maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with. uh.... Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world m8 --- https://imgur.com/aVTScxQ Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:901320696] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImAppleJackFU posted...</cite> <quote>maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with.</quote> uh.... Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world m8</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 05/14/18 11:08:41 AM #6:	Genocet_10-325 posted... It's not the fault of socialism that Venezuela is poor. It's the fault of low oil prices. oil prices aren't that low. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:901320703] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>It's not the fault of socialism that Venezuela is poor. It's the fault of low oil prices.</quote> oil prices aren't that low.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImAppleJackFU 05/14/18 11:09:14 AM #7:	Genocet_10-325 posted... It's not the fault of socialism that Venezuela is poor. It's the fault of low oil prices. Uh huh, and just why is there no more money? Why didn't they save any? Oh, it's because under socialism, you eventually run out of everyone else's money. No saving up or being rich except the ruling class, LOL --- https://imgur.com/hZaYwOx - https://cdn.awwni.me/11s41.png - https://imgur.com/2xyxQ9c https://imgur.com/sStfXr2 - https://cdn.awwni.me/11rp4.png <cite>ImAppleJackFU posted [p:901320725] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>It's not the fault of socialism that Venezuela is poor. It's the fault of low oil prices.</quote> Uh huh, and just why is there no more money? Why didn't they save any? Oh, it's because under socialism, you eventually run out of everyone else's money. No saving up or being rich except the ruling class, LOL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad_Chad 05/14/18 11:10:23 AM #8:	Genocet_10-325 posted... It's not the fault of socialism that Venezuela is poor. It's the fault of low oil prices. While I think socialism is dumb and for desperate or lazy poor people, I gotta agree with this guy here. Oil prices and a shitty government broke that place. --- Sup, bro?! <cite>Rad_Chad posted [p:901320770] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>It's not the fault of socialism that Venezuela is poor. It's the fault of low oil prices.</quote> While I think socialism is dumb and for desperate or lazy poor people, I gotta agree with this guy here. Oil prices and a shitty government broke that place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trigg3rH4ppy 05/14/18 11:11:38 AM #10:	Genocet_10-325 posted... It's not the fault of socialism that Venezuela is poor. It's the fault of low oil prices. LMAO --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://imgur.com/zlaENmx <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:901320824] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>It's not the fault of socialism that Venezuela is poor. It's the fault of low oil prices.</quote> LMAO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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silentwing26x 05/14/18 11:13:43 AM #12:	Godnorgosh posted... Venezuela is capitalist. No, it's been a socialist country for decades. RoadsterUFO posted... Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela and use it as a shining example of how awesome socialism is . Since Venezuela started falling apart he shut the fuck up about. haha source? did he really? <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:901320904] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>Venezuela is capitalist.</quote> No, it's been a socialist country for decades. <cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela and use it as a shining example of how awesome socialism is . Since Venezuela started falling apart he shut the fuck up about.</quote> haha source? did he really?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/14/18 11:14:56 AM #13:	This is what our residents leftists want in the U.S. In their minds, it's better to have basically everyone living in equally abysmal conditions than to have freedom and "income inequality" where some people are poor, some are middle class, some are rich, etc. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:901320950] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote>This is what our residents leftists want in the U.S. In their minds, it's better to have basically everyone living in equally abysmal conditions than to have freedom and "income inequality" where some people are poor, some are middle class, some are rich, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 05/14/18 11:15:01 AM #14:	RoadsterUFO posted... Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela and use it as a shining example of how awesome socialism is . Since Venezuela started falling apart he shut the fuck up about. It did have high standards of living...until oil prices plummeted --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:901320956] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela and use it as a shining example of how awesome socialism is . Since Venezuela started falling apart he shut the fuck up about.</quote> It did have high standards of living...until oil prices plummeted</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 05/14/18 11:15:12 AM #15:	RoadsterUFO posted... Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela and use it as a shining example of how awesome socialism is . Since Venezuela started falling apart he shut the fuck up about. I mean to be fair, the country wasn't exactly a shining socialist utopia before, but these problems only really started to manifest within the last few years. I'm not a socialist but to boil everything going on in Venezuela down to "hurr socialism bad" cause you want a talking point is rather dishonest --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:901320964] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela and use it as a shining example of how awesome socialism is . Since Venezuela started falling apart he shut the fuck up about.</quote> I mean to be fair, the country wasn't exactly a shining socialist utopia before, but these problems only really started to manifest within the last few years. I'm not a socialist but to boil everything going on in Venezuela down to "hurr socialism bad" cause you want a talking point is rather dishonest</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 05/14/18 11:15:51 AM #16:	Genocet_10-325 posted... RoadsterUFO posted... Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela and use it as a shining example of how awesome socialism is . Since Venezuela started falling apart he shut the fuck up about. It did have high standards of living...until oil prices plummeted yeah no. it didnt. Venezuela used to be richer than japan once decades ago. they squandered that. --- https://imgur.com/aVTScxQ Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:901320984] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela and use it as a shining example of how awesome socialism is . Since Venezuela started falling apart he shut the fuck up about.</quote> It did have high standards of living...until oil prices plummeted</quote> yeah no. it didnt. Venezuela used to be richer than japan once decades ago. they squandered that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 05/14/18 11:16:28 AM #17:	RoadsterUFO posted... Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela he did no such thing. that was actually a criticism from by the mises institute and sewell [E: also a clinton superPAC], rearranged as an outright lie by right wing media sources and parroted until people like you forgot where it originated. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:901321005] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela</quote> he did no such thing. that was actually a criticism from by the mises institute and sewell [E: also a clinton superPAC], rearranged as an outright lie by right wing media sources and parroted until people like you forgot where it originated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
John_Galt 05/14/18 11:17:08 AM #18:	Genocet_10-325 posted... RoadsterUFO posted... Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela and use it as a shining example of how awesome socialism is . Since Venezuela started falling apart he shut the fuck up about. It did have high standards of living...until they ran out of other peoples money Ftfy --- Who is John Galt? <cite>John_Galt posted [p:901321028] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela and use it as a shining example of how awesome socialism is . Since Venezuela started falling apart he shut the fuck up about.</quote> It did have high standards of living...until they ran out of other peoples money</quote> Ftfy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 05/14/18 11:17:16 AM #19:	relevant reading https://tinyurl.com/y8fjt37z (RCP) https://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/16/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-super-pac-attacks/index.html When I talk about democratic socialist, I'm not looking at Venezuela. I'm not looking at Cuba. I'm looking at countries like Denmark and Sweden. ... "Yesterday, one of Hillary Clinton's most prominent Super PACs attacked our campaign pretty viciously," read the fundraising email in Sanders' name. "They suggested I'd be friendly with Middle East terrorist organizations, and even tried to link me to a dead communist dictator." apparently the 'sanders loves venezuela's system' lie also came in part from a clinton superPAC. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:901321033] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote>relevant reading https://tinyurl.com/y8fjt37z (RCP) https://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/16/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-super-pac-attacks/index.html <quote>When I talk about democratic socialist, I'm not looking at Venezuela. I'm not looking at Cuba. I'm looking at countries like Denmark and Sweden. ... "Yesterday, one of Hillary Clinton's most prominent Super PACs attacked our campaign pretty viciously," read the fundraising email in Sanders' name. "They suggested I'd be friendly with Middle East terrorist organizations, and even tried to link me to a dead communist dictator." </quote> apparently the 'sanders loves venezuela's system' lie also came in part from a clinton superPAC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 05/14/18 11:18:33 AM #20:	the one thing that bothers me most of all is eating a dog. different cultures FML. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:901321076] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote>the one thing that bothers me most of all is eating a dog. different cultures FML.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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silentwing26x 05/14/18 11:21:39 AM #23:	RoadsterUFO posted... Darkman124 posted... RoadsterUFO posted... Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela he did no such thing. that was actually a criticism from by the mises institute and sewell, rearranged as an outright lie by right wing media sources and parroted until people like you forgot where it originated. These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now? https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-gaps-disparities-that-threaten-america yeah those venezuelan incomes are certainly equal now equally zero lmao <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:901321193] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela</quote> he did no such thing. that was actually a criticism from by the mises institute and sewell, rearranged as an outright lie by right wing media sources and parroted until people like you forgot where it originated.</quote> These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now? https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-gaps-disparities-that-threaten-america</quote> yeah those venezuelan incomes are certainly equal now equally zero lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 05/14/18 11:21:46 AM #24:	RoadsterUFO posted... These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now? that is in no way an endorsement of their socialist systems, especially in context of the quotes i linked to, where he explicitly states he's seeking the emulate the nordic democratic socialist model, not the south american model. it is instead an indictment of the gini coefficient of the USA i know you are super eager to find evidence for the narrative that was fed to you by a clinton superPAC but it's not going to help you prove something that sanders himself explicit said is not so --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:901321199] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now? </quote> that is in no way an endorsement of their socialist systems, especially in context of the quotes i linked to, where he explicitly states he's seeking the emulate the nordic democratic socialist model, not the south american model. it is instead an indictment of the gini coefficient of the USA i know you are super eager to find evidence for the narrative that was fed to you by a clinton superPAC but it's not going to help you prove something that sanders himself explicit said is not so</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImAppleJackFU 05/14/18 11:21:59 AM #25:	^Those wages, equally below poverty levels LOL --- https://imgur.com/hZaYwOx - https://cdn.awwni.me/11s41.png - https://imgur.com/2xyxQ9c https://imgur.com/sStfXr2 - https://cdn.awwni.me/11rp4.png <cite>ImAppleJackFU posted [p:901321210] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote>^Those wages, equally below poverty levels LOL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 05/14/18 11:22:44 AM #26:	Darkman124 posted... RoadsterUFO posted... These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now? that is in no way an endorsement of their socialist systems, especially in context of the quotes i linked to. it is instead an indictment of the gini coefficient of the USA i mean what else is it to praise equal incomes? <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:901321249] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now? </quote> that is in no way an endorsement of their socialist systems, especially in context of the quotes i linked to. it is instead an indictment of the gini coefficient of the USA</quote> i mean what else is it to praise equal incomes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 05/14/18 11:23:38 AM #27:	so you don't think that the country running out of food has anything to do with the US blocking food shipments? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:901321285] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote>so you don't think that the country running out of food has anything to do with the US blocking food shipments?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/14/18 11:24:05 AM #28:	Has averagejoel showed up to say that somehow this is the fault of the U.S., not their failed economic system? EDIT: Ninja'd by less than a minute! --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:901321298] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote>Has averagejoel showed up to say that somehow this is the fault of the U.S., not their failed economic system? EDIT: Ninja'd by less than a minute!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 05/14/18 11:24:40 AM #29:	The Admiral posted... Has averagejoel showed up to say that somehow this is the fault of the U.S., not their failed economic system? EDIT: Ninja'd by less than a minute! hahaha <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:901321321] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Has averagejoel showed up to say that somehow this is the fault of the U.S., not their failed economic system? EDIT: Ninja'd by less than a minute!</quote> hahaha</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 05/14/18 11:25:48 AM #31:	The Admiral posted... Has averagejoel showed up to say that somehow this is the fault of the U.S., not their failed economic system? I mean not to say that socialism is a successful economic system, but I don't think "the US is blocking shipments" is a criticism that should be dismissed like that --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:901321373] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Has averagejoel showed up to say that somehow this is the fault of the U.S., not their failed economic system? </quote> I mean not to say that socialism is a successful economic system, but I don't think "the US is blocking shipments" is a criticism that should be dismissed like that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImAppleJackFU 05/14/18 11:26:55 AM #32:	averagejoel posted... so you don't think that the country running out of food has anything to do with the US blocking food shipments? They have plenty of farmland, but you know how it goes; Under Socialism people wait for bread. --- https://imgur.com/hZaYwOx - https://cdn.awwni.me/11s41.png - https://imgur.com/2xyxQ9c https://imgur.com/sStfXr2 - https://cdn.awwni.me/11rp4.png <cite>ImAppleJackFU posted [p:901321420] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>so you don't think that the country running out of food has anything to do with the US blocking food shipments?</quote> They have plenty of farmland, but you know how it goes; Under Socialism people wait for bread.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 05/14/18 11:27:34 AM #33:	Doom_Art posted... The Admiral posted... Has averagejoel showed up to say that somehow this is the fault of the U.S., not their failed economic system? I mean not to say that socialism is a successful economic system, but I don't think "the US is blocking shipments" is a criticism that should be dismissed like that they can't grow food? --- https://imgur.com/aVTScxQ Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:901321437] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Has averagejoel showed up to say that somehow this is the fault of the U.S., not their failed economic system? </quote> I mean not to say that socialism is a successful economic system, but I don't think "the US is blocking shipments" is a criticism that should be dismissed like that</quote> they can't grow food?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 05/14/18 11:27:59 AM #34:	i mean is it even true i am unaware of any us embargo on venezuela open to being shown it and lack time to search in detail all i can find is asset freezes of individual govt leaders --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:901321454] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote>i mean is it even true i am unaware of any us embargo on venezuela open to being shown it and lack time to search in detail all i can find is asset freezes of individual govt leaders</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 05/14/18 11:28:17 AM #35:	how long is this lame gimmick alt gonna last i give it a day --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:901321466] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote>how long is this lame gimmick alt gonna last i give it a day</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 05/14/18 11:28:40 AM #36:	Darkman124 posted... i am unaware of any us embargo on venezuela hmmm i can't see it either well then --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:901321481] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>i am unaware of any us embargo on venezuela </quote> hmmm i can't see it either well then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 05/14/18 11:28:45 AM #37:	ImAppleJackFU posted... averagejoel posted... so you don't think that the country running out of food has anything to do with the US blocking food shipments? They have plenty of farmland, but know how it goes; Under Socialism people wait for bread. Venezuela's system is more of a Social Democracy (like Sweden, Norway, etc) than an actual socialist country --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:901321487] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImAppleJackFU posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>so you don't think that the country running out of food has anything to do with the US blocking food shipments?</quote> They have plenty of farmland, but know how it goes; Under Socialism people wait for bread.</quote> Venezuela's system is more of a Social Democracy (like Sweden, Norway, etc) than an actual socialist country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/14/18 11:29:31 AM #38:	Doom_Art posted... The Admiral posted... Has averagejoel showed up to say that somehow this is the fault of the U.S., not their failed economic system? I mean not to say that socialism is a successful economic system, but I don't think "the US is blocking shipments" is a criticism that should be dismissed like that That might be a good response, if it was actually a true justification for the problem. In reality, the Venezuelan socialist government is turning away outside food and aid, because it refuses to admit that its socialist policies have failed: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article199179509.html And yet the socialist administration in Caracas wont acknowledge that it has a crisis on its hands, refusing offers of food and medicine from its neighbors and aid agencies, including the Catholic Church. On Thursday, several dozens of people marched in Venezuelas capital demanding access to basic medicine and medical treatment, waving banners that read, We dont want to die. Gaby Arellano, an opposition deputy in Venezuela, has been lobbying for humanitarian corridors that might allow the free flow of food and medicine from Colombia and Brazil. She said Maduro and his allies are opposing the idea because they would have to acknowledge that their [socialist] political model has failed. Theyd have to acknowledge that theyve stolen all of our resources, she added. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:901321521] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Has averagejoel showed up to say that somehow this is the fault of the U.S., not their failed economic system? </quote> I mean not to say that socialism is a successful economic system, but I don't think "the US is blocking shipments" is a criticism that should be dismissed like that</quote> That might be a good response, if it was actually a true justification for the problem. In reality, the Venezuelan socialist government is turning away outside food and aid, because it refuses to admit that its socialist policies have failed: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article199179509.html <quote>And yet the socialist administration in Caracas wont acknowledge that it has a crisis on its hands, refusing offers of food and medicine from its neighbors and aid agencies, including the Catholic Church. On Thursday, several dozens of people marched in Venezuelas capital demanding access to basic medicine and medical treatment, waving banners that read, We dont want to die. Gaby Arellano, an opposition deputy in Venezuela, has been lobbying for humanitarian corridors that might allow the free flow of food and medicine from Colombia and Brazil. She said Maduro and his allies are opposing the idea because they would have to acknowledge that their [socialist] political model has failed. Theyd have to acknowledge that theyve stolen all of our resources, she added.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 05/14/18 11:29:50 AM #39:	ImAppleJackFU posted... They have plenty of farmland while the present venezuelan government obviously made a bad situation worse, this statement is fundamentally false; since the discovery of oil 70 years ago venezuela has always imported their food and their agricultural sector is the smallest in latin america. lack of investment in that sector is a really old problem and the real question i have is why is their oil unable to buy food joel claims it's because of an embargo/blockade but i can find no evidence of this --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:901321533] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImAppleJackFU posted...</cite> <quote>They have plenty of farmland</quote> while the present venezuelan government obviously made a bad situation worse, this statement is fundamentally false; since the discovery of oil 70 years ago venezuela has always imported their food and their agricultural sector is the smallest in latin america. lack of investment in that sector is a really old problem and the real question i have is why is their oil unable to buy food joel claims it's because of an embargo/blockade but i can find no evidence of this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 05/14/18 11:30:38 AM #40:	foreveraIone posted... ImAppleJackFU posted... maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with. uh.... Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world m8 So rich that people are being worked to death at the world cup stadium. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:901321576] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>foreveraIone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImAppleJackFU posted...</cite> <quote>maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with.</quote> uh.... Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world m8</quote> So rich that people are being worked to death at the world cup stadium.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foreveraIone 05/14/18 11:31:57 AM #43:	Tyranthraxus posted... foreveraIone posted... ImAppleJackFU posted... maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with. uh.... Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world m8 So rich that people are being worked to death at the world cup stadium. those are the South Asian slaves. arabs in Qatar are loaded. you'd have to pay me a hefty sum for me to ever go to one of those shitholes --- https://imgur.com/aVTScxQ Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:901321635] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>foreveraIone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImAppleJackFU posted...</cite> <quote>maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with.</quote> uh.... Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world m8</quote> So rich that people are being worked to death at the world cup stadium.</quote> those are the South Asian slaves. arabs in Qatar are loaded. you'd have to pay me a hefty sum for me to ever go to one of those shitholes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 05/14/18 11:32:35 AM #44:	foreveraIone posted... Tyranthraxus posted... foreveraIone posted... ImAppleJackFU posted... maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with. uh.... Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world m8 So rich that people are being worked to death at the world cup stadium. those are the South Asian slaves. arabs in Qatar are loaded Ah so the price of wealth is slavery. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:901321660] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>foreveraIone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>foreveraIone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImAppleJackFU posted...</cite> <quote>maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with.</quote> uh.... Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world m8</quote> So rich that people are being worked to death at the world cup stadium.</quote> those are the South Asian slaves. arabs in Qatar are loaded</quote> Ah so the price of wealth is slavery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 05/14/18 11:34:31 AM #45:	RoadsterUFO posted... No, it is more based on the whole nine yards of socialism than the European nations Bernie shouts on about lol. You've been shown to be lying about Sanders and chose to ignore the evidence and continue to post this false claim. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:901321733] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>No, it is more based on the whole nine yards of socialism than the European nations Bernie shouts on about lol. </quote> You've been shown to be lying about Sanders and chose to ignore the evidence and continue to post this false claim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 05/14/18 11:35:14 AM #46:	RoadsterUFO posted... averagejoel posted... ImAppleJackFU posted... averagejoel posted... so you don't think that the country running out of food has anything to do with the US blocking food shipments? They have plenty of farmland, but know how it goes; Under Socialism people wait for bread. Venezuela's system is more of a Social Democracy (like Sweden, Norway, etc) than an actual socialist country No, it is more based on the whole nine yards of socialism than the European nations Bernie shouts on about lol. no it isn't go read a book or something --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:901321764] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImAppleJackFU posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>so you don't think that the country running out of food has anything to do with the US blocking food shipments?</quote> They have plenty of farmland, but know how it goes; Under Socialism people wait for bread.</quote> Venezuela's system is more of a Social Democracy (like Sweden, Norway, etc) than an actual socialist country</quote> No, it is more based on the whole nine yards of socialism than the European nations Bernie shouts on about lol.</quote> no it isn't go read a book or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImAppleJackFU 05/14/18 11:35:54 AM #47:	foreveraIone posted... ImAppleJackFU posted... maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with. uh.... Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world m8 Which is why they need slave labor for their new soccer stadium, right? --- https://imgur.com/hZaYwOx - https://cdn.awwni.me/11s41.png - https://imgur.com/2xyxQ9c https://imgur.com/sStfXr2 - https://cdn.awwni.me/11rp4.png <cite>ImAppleJackFU posted [p:901321794] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>foreveraIone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImAppleJackFU posted...</cite> <quote>maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with.</quote> uh.... Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world m8</quote> Which is why they need slave labor for their new soccer stadium, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foreveraIone 05/14/18 11:36:34 AM #49:	ImAppleJackFU posted... Which is why they need slave labor for their new soccer stadium, right? you do realize how tiny their population is right? take the L. Qatari arabs are rich as all fuck. --- https://imgur.com/aVTScxQ Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:901321825] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImAppleJackFU posted...</cite> <quote>Which is why they need slave labor for their new soccer stadium, right? </quote> you do realize how tiny their population is right? take the L. Qatari arabs are rich as all fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 05/14/18 11:36:35 AM #50:	Tyranthraxus posted... foreveraIone posted... Tyranthraxus posted... foreveraIone posted... ImAppleJackFU posted... maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with. uh.... Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world m8 So rich that people are being worked to death at the world cup stadium. those are the South Asian slaves. arabs in Qatar are loaded Ah so the price of wealth is slavery. obviously that's how the US became wealthy in the first place --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:901321826] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>foreveraIone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>foreveraIone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImAppleJackFU posted...</cite> <quote>maintain Qatari levels of living standards which aren't that great to begin with.</quote> uh.... Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world m8</quote> So rich that people are being worked to death at the world cup stadium.</quote> those are the South Asian slaves. arabs in Qatar are loaded</quote> Ah so the price of wealth is slavery.</quote> obviously that's how the US became wealthy in the first place</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 05/14/18 11:37:08 AM #51:	RoadsterUFO posted... Darkman124 posted... RoadsterUFO posted... No, it is more based on the whole nine yards of socialism than the European nations Bernie shouts on about lol. You've been shown to be lying and chose to ignore the evidence and continue to post this false claim. Yeah, dude, because Venezuela didnt totally do the whole seize the means of production thing where private property rights arent rejected lol. learn some history --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:901321849] in Venezuelan... [t:76606629]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>No, it is more based on the whole nine yards of socialism than the European nations Bernie shouts on about lol. </quote> You've been shown to be lying and chose to ignore the evidence and continue to post this false claim.</quote> Yeah, dude, because Venezuela didnt totally do the whole seize the means of production thing where private property rights arent rejected lol.</quote> learn some history</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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