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mario2000
05/14/18 1:29:59 PM
#152:


darkjedilink posted...
mario2000 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
mario2000 posted...
lmfao so redhats are just gonna blatantly deny that a clearly capitalist country isn't capitalist so they can make excuses as to why it failed?

How is it 'clearly' capitalist, when the government runs everything?

these two things are not mutually exclusive

maybe you should have stayed awake during social studies

They literally are mutually exclusive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy
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darkjedilink
05/14/18 1:33:41 PM
#153:


mario2000 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
mario2000 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
mario2000 posted...
lmfao so redhats are just gonna blatantly deny that a clearly capitalist country isn't capitalist so they can make excuses as to why it failed?

How is it 'clearly' capitalist, when the government runs everything?

these two things are not mutually exclusive

maybe you should have stayed awake during social studies

They literally are mutually exclusive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy

That's only true if you literally ignore what a free market is.
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Questionmarktarius
05/14/18 1:35:00 PM
#154:


VectorChaos posted...
Topic about Venezuela's collapse. Let's get the checklist...

Communism/Socialism Defense Force present with excuses loaded? Check.

"It wasn't REAL Socialism!" Check.

"This is all America's fault... somehow..." Check.

kek

It's not even really the fault of "lol socialism", but instead the same problem as Zimbabwe: anyone competent and/or established has been chased away (or worse), and their prior positions and holdings handed out as favors to cronies who have no idea what the hell they're doing.
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MangaFan462
05/14/18 1:36:43 PM
#155:


VectorChaos posted...
Topic about Venezuela's collapse. Let's get the checklist...

Communism/Socialism Defense Force present with excuses loaded? Check.

"It wasn't REAL Socialism!" Check.

"This is all America's fault... somehow..." Check.

kek


Lmfao rely

@mario2000
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mario2000
05/14/18 1:44:25 PM
#156:


darkjedilink posted...
mario2000 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
mario2000 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
mario2000 posted...
lmfao so redhats are just gonna blatantly deny that a clearly capitalist country isn't capitalist so they can make excuses as to why it failed?

How is it 'clearly' capitalist, when the government runs everything?

these two things are not mutually exclusive

maybe you should have stayed awake during social studies

They literally are mutually exclusive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy

That's only true if you literally ignore what a free market is.

by all means keep trying to redefine terms to suit your narrative
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Philoktetes
05/14/18 1:51:14 PM
#158:


ImAppleJackFU posted...

The country HAS RAN OUT OF FOOD.


*RUN

why does everyone have such a hard time using past participles nowadays
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silentwing26x
05/14/18 2:04:49 PM
#159:


Spooking posted...
Here is Bernie Sanders refusing to discuss why socialism is collapsing so many Latin America countries:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfkmkcuO5tc" data-time="


What a lunatic.
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mario2000
05/14/18 2:21:22 PM
#160:


grr how dare sanders not validate my false narrative
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darkjedilink
05/14/18 2:28:02 PM
#161:


mario2000 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
mario2000 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
mario2000 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
mario2000 posted...
lmfao so redhats are just gonna blatantly deny that a clearly capitalist country isn't capitalist so they can make excuses as to why it failed?

How is it 'clearly' capitalist, when the government runs everything?

these two things are not mutually exclusive

maybe you should have stayed awake during social studies

They literally are mutually exclusive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy

That's only true if you literally ignore what a free market is.

by all means keep trying to redefine terms to suit your narrative

free market
fr mrkt/Submit
noun
noun: free market; plural noun: free markets; modifier noun: free-market
an economic system in which prices are determined by unrestricted competition between privately owned businesses.

It literally cannot exist in a socialist economy.
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mario2000
05/14/18 2:43:42 PM
#162:


darkjedilink posted...

free market
fr mrkt/Submit
noun
noun: free market; plural noun: free markets; modifier noun: free-market
an economic system in which prices are determined by unrestricted competition between privately owned businesses.

It literally cannot exist in a socialist economy.

it can and you would know that if you had taken the two seconds to click on the definition of "mixed economy"

or you can just keep making yourself look like an ignorant fool

your pick
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mario2000
05/14/18 2:44:51 PM
#163:


i mean you don't even know the definition of socialist either other than "that thing fox news told me to be scared of"
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silentwing26x
05/14/18 2:45:22 PM
#164:


lmao at mario2000 calling anyone else an ignorant fool
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MangaFan462
05/14/18 2:45:39 PM
#165:


^So it is the incorrect form of socialism implemented excuse
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MangaFan462
05/14/18 2:47:13 PM
#166:


Philoktetes posted...
ImAppleJackFU posted...

The country HAS RAN OUT OF FOOD.


*RUN

why does everyone have such a hard time using past participles nowadays


Stop deflecting, Bernie
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Cosmic_Diabetic
05/14/18 2:48:04 PM
#167:


foreveraIone posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela and use it as a shining example of how awesome socialism is . Since Venezuela started falling apart he shut the fuck up about.

It did have high standards of living...until oil prices plummeted

yeah no. it didnt.

Venezuela used to be richer than japan once decades ago.

they squandered that.


I like how you say it didn't have a high standard of living. Then you talked about how it had a high standard of living.....
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mario2000
05/14/18 2:55:12 PM
#168:


MangaFan462 posted...
^So it is the incorrect form of socialism implemented excuse

why do you have a little girl avatar
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Dash_Harber
05/14/18 2:57:06 PM
#169:


Some people are so desperate to continue the red scare that they blame Venezuela for the entire existence of socialism, ignoring the fact that Venezuela has been a target for western interventionism for the past hundred years or so and that many of the other countries they call socialist, like those in Scandinavia, are not experiencing any of the same problems.
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MangaFan462
05/14/18 2:58:03 PM
#170:


mario2000 posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
^So it is the incorrect form of socialism implemented excuse

why do you have a little girl avatar


Why do you deflect? Cant admit youre wrong?
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foreveraIone
05/14/18 2:58:05 PM
#171:


Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
foreveraIone posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
Funny how Bernie Sanders used to go on about the high standards of living in Venezuela and use it as a shining example of how awesome socialism is . Since Venezuela started falling apart he shut the fuck up about.

It did have high standards of living...until oil prices plummeted

yeah no. it didnt.

Venezuela used to be richer than japan once decades ago.

they squandered that.


I like how you say it didn't have a high standard of living. Then you talked about how it had a high standard of living.....

I mean we are talking about 1960s.

they squandered that wealth in the last 50 years
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MangaFan462
05/14/18 2:59:12 PM
#172:


Dash_Harber posted...
Some people are so desperate to continue the red scare that they blame Venezuela for the entire existence of socialism, ignoring the fact that Venezuela has been a target for western interventionism for the past hundred years or so and that many of the other countries they call socialist, like those in Scandinavia, are not experiencing any of the same problems.


Western intervention is like their main type of propoganda spread to its citizens, yikes.
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mario2000
05/14/18 3:01:02 PM
#173:


MangaFan462 posted...
mario2000 posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
^So it is the incorrect form of socialism implemented excuse

why do you have a little girl avatar


Why do you deflect? Cant admit youre wrong?

why do you have even more little girls in your sig
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darkjedilink
05/14/18 3:14:10 PM
#174:


mario2000 posted...
darkjedilink posted...

free market
fr mrkt/Submit
noun
noun: free market; plural noun: free markets; modifier noun: free-market
an economic system in which prices are determined by unrestricted competition between privately owned businesses.

It literally cannot exist in a socialist economy.

it can and you would know that if you had taken the two seconds to click on the definition of "mixed economy"

or you can just keep making yourself look like an ignorant fool

your pick

What part of the phrase 'unrestricted competition' do you not understand?

I read the definition in your link, and based on the definition of 'free economy,' it cannot exist.
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MangaFan462
05/14/18 3:15:35 PM
#175:


mario2000 posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
mario2000 posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
^So it is the incorrect form of socialism implemented excuse

why do you have a little girl avatar


Why do you deflect? Cant admit youre wrong?

why do you have even more little girls in your sig


Because its a free country : )
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GiftedACIII
05/14/18 3:16:05 PM
#176:


Mangafan is one of those hoth tier accounts with dozens maybe hundreds of accounts. It's best to just instantly dismiss any of their posts as garbage.
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mario2000
05/14/18 3:16:15 PM
#177:


darkjedilink posted...
mario2000 posted...
darkjedilink posted...

free market
fr mrkt/Submit
noun
noun: free market; plural noun: free markets; modifier noun: free-market
an economic system in which prices are determined by unrestricted competition between privately owned businesses.

It literally cannot exist in a socialist economy.

it can and you would know that if you had taken the two seconds to click on the definition of "mixed economy"

or you can just keep making yourself look like an ignorant fool

your pick

What part of the phrase 'unrestricted competition' do you not understand?

I read the definition in your link, and based on the definition of 'free economy,' it cannot exist.

you literally didn't read anything
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MangaFan462
05/14/18 3:16:41 PM
#178:


GiftedACIII posted...
Mangafan is one of those hoth tier accounts with dozens maybe hundreds of accounts. It's best to just instantly dismiss any of their posts as garbage.


Wah wah time to deflect
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averagejoel
05/14/18 3:16:43 PM
#179:


MangaFan462 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Some people are so desperate to continue the red scare that they blame Venezuela for the entire existence of socialism, ignoring the fact that Venezuela has been a target for western interventionism for the past hundred years or so and that many of the other countries they call socialist, like those in Scandinavia, are not experiencing any of the same problems.


Western intervention is like their main type of propoganda spread to its citizens, yikes.

and the main type of propaganda the US spreads to its citizens is that its intervention is a positive thing for those countries
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Amatsukaze
05/14/18 3:29:44 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/14/18 3:37:59 PM
#181:


Philoktetes posted...
ImAppleJackFU posted...

The country HAS RAN OUT OF FOOD.


*RUN

why does everyone have such a hard time using past participles nowadays


Apparently that user has a pony name. That is all we need to know in this regard.
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DevsBro
05/14/18 3:51:18 PM
#182:


Suppose oil prices did go from "everyone in a mansion" to "give me that rat and I'll let you live."

Maybe there should have been other baskets holding Venezuelan eggs.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/14/18 3:57:11 PM
#183:


DevsBro posted...
Suppose oil prices did go from "everyone in a mansion" to "give me that rat and I'll let you live."

Maybe there should have been other baskets holding Venezuelan eggs.


As if trump would allow them to have other eggs in their basket...
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silentwing26x
05/14/18 3:57:23 PM
#184:


lmfao at the literal communists coming out of the woodworks to peddle Marx's delusions
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StarLightGlimmR
05/14/18 3:58:01 PM
#185:


DevsBro posted...
Suppose oil prices did go from "everyone in a mansion" to "give me that rat and I'll let you live."

Maybe there should have been other baskets holding Venezuelan eggs.


Why need more when Socialism provides for all?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/14/18 4:05:24 PM
#186:


silentwing26x posted...
lmfao at the literal communists coming out of the woodworks to peddle Marx's delusions


Where? Names?
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Bloodychess
05/14/18 4:14:42 PM
#187:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
DevsBro posted...
Suppose oil prices did go from "everyone in a mansion" to "give me that rat and I'll let you live."

Maybe there should have been other baskets holding Venezuelan eggs.


As if trump would allow them to have other eggs in their basket...


"But Trump!"
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mario2000
05/14/18 4:14:56 PM
#188:


StarLightGlimmR posted...
DevsBro posted...
Suppose oil prices did go from "everyone in a mansion" to "give me that rat and I'll let you live."

Maybe there should have been other baskets holding Venezuelan eggs.


Why need more when Socialism provides for all?

what happened? your "ImAppleJackFU" account get banned already?
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silentwing26x
05/14/18 5:09:05 PM
#189:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
silentwing26x posted...
lmfao at the literal communists coming out of the woodworks to peddle Marx's delusions


Where? Names?


are you blind? theres several of them in this topic
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/14/18 5:14:09 PM
#190:


silentwing26x posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
silentwing26x posted...
lmfao at the literal communists coming out of the woodworks to peddle Marx's delusions


Where? Names?


are you blind? theres several of them in this topic


Such as? And yes, im blind. My phone has a special screen that displays braile. It's annoying though because I don't have much control over auto correct.

Also, your logic is centered around not having a sig so lol at you.
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Kineth
05/14/18 5:15:11 PM
#191:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
silentwing26x posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
silentwing26x posted...
lmfao at the literal communists coming out of the woodworks to peddle Marx's delusions


Where? Names?


are you blind? theres several of them in this topic


Such as? And yes, im blind. My phone has a special screen that displays braile. It's annoying though because I don't have much control over auto correct.


They're in the trees, man. They're EVERYWHERE!
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southcoast09
05/14/18 5:16:19 PM
#192:


Youre welcome for Donald Trump.
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lesidesi
05/14/18 5:22:19 PM
#193:


This topic was embarrassing to read, neither side really understands what they're talking about

This kind of misunderstanding is what makes things like vene bonds a super interesting trade, because they're so misunderstood and mispriced
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BillWardsPants
05/14/18 5:23:01 PM
#194:


One had to wonder how non-oil rich countries feed themselves without the gift of socialism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Venezuela
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lesidesi
05/14/18 5:38:53 PM
#195:


I'm sure there are others but I honestly don't understand why people bother engaging with rhetoric filled folks like the admiral or averagejoel who are incredibly insular and shallow in the views

People like darkman- you're too smart/thoughtful for this! Why bother man?
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Dash_Harber
05/14/18 5:40:26 PM
#196:


MangaFan462 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Some people are so desperate to continue the red scare that they blame Venezuela for the entire existence of socialism, ignoring the fact that Venezuela has been a target for western interventionism for the past hundred years or so and that many of the other countries they call socialist, like those in Scandinavia, are not experiencing any of the same problems.


Western intervention is like their main type of propoganda spread to its citizens, yikes.


Wait, are you arguing that Venezuelan hostility towards western intervention is evidence that there is no western intervention?
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GiftedACIII
05/14/18 6:06:43 PM
#198:


Dash_Harber posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Some people are so desperate to continue the red scare that they blame Venezuela for the entire existence of socialism, ignoring the fact that Venezuela has been a target for western interventionism for the past hundred years or so and that many of the other countries they call socialist, like those in Scandinavia, are not experiencing any of the same problems.


Western intervention is like their main type of propoganda spread to its citizens, yikes.


Wait, are you arguing that Venezuelan hostility towards western intervention is evidence that there is no western intervention?


he's suspended though he's already has another account posting in here. He is unstable.
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ImAppleJackFU
05/14/18 6:30:19 PM
#199:


Dash_Harber posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Some people are so desperate to continue the red scare that they blame Venezuela for the entire existence of socialism, ignoring the fact that Venezuela has been a target for western interventionism for the past hundred years or so and that many of the other countries they call socialist, like those in Scandinavia, are not experiencing any of the same problems.


Western intervention is like their main type of propoganda spread to its citizens, yikes.


Wait, are you arguing that Venezuelan hostility towards western intervention is evidence that there is no western intervention?


It's the fact that Venezuela blames their troubles on the West instead of their own shitty choice to implement socialism.
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averagejoel
05/14/18 10:08:38 PM
#200:


RedWhiteBlue posted...
averagejoel posted...
RedWhiteBlue posted...
I heard Tito's socialism worked well. Why doesn't anyone talk more about that? I'm not familiar with it myself.

people also hate talking about Castro and Ho Chi Minh and Sankara and Allende and Mossadegh and Whitlam and Makarios and and and and

I'm curious as to why people glossed this over. I want to know what others have to say about this.

people like to blame the failings of socialist countries on the countries themselves and their leaders. if they did even a cursory look into the history of those countries specifically, their interactions in the 20th Century with the US, Britain, and France they might recognize this for the horribly flawed way of thinking that it is

a few minutes spent reading about how American racism influenced Hitler, and a few more spent reading about Operation Paperclip, would also do wonders for the level of discussion
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Returning_CEmen
05/14/18 10:15:08 PM
#201:


Genocet_10-325 posted...
It's not the fault of socialism that Venezuela is poor. It's the fault of low oil prices.

Gas prices in California are pushing $4 a gallon in some areas.
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