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Konflikt
05/10/18 12:27:37 PM
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https://gizmodo.com/the-fcc-will-terminate-net-neutrality-on-june-11-1825920287

The 2015 Open Internet Order, which established federal protections for net neutrality and barred internet service providers from blocking or throttling legal content online, will formally cease on June 11, the Federal Communications Commission said on Thursday.

When that happens, the agencys new rules, passed by the commissions Republican majority in December, will go into effect. At that point, internet providers will no longer be prohibited from establishing new fees for content creators to have their sites and services delivered to customers at greater speeds. They will no longer be prohibited from censoring or throttling content whenever they see fit, even if doing so only benefits the services from which they directly profit.

It remains unclear if companies such as AT&T, Comcast, and Verizon will take immediate advantage of their new-found role as the internets gatekeepersdoing so may provide net neutrality advocates concrete proof of the hypothetical harms that experts say are likely to result from the FCCs decision, endangering efforts to maintain their new power.

The FCCs new rules are not yet carved in stone; a legal challenge led by consumer advocates, major tech companies, and smaller ISPs is brewing in Washington, D.C. Although it is likely to drag out into next year, the court battle could result in net neutrality being reinstated as law of the land.
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Whats more, the U.S. Senate is set to vote on a resolution that would cast out the FCCs new rules next week, and though it will require an additional vote in the House, passage would be a significant blow to the FCCs agenda.

Should the Senate vote in favor of re-establishing net neutrality, the House would have until early January 2019 to vote on the resolution, which would require a simple majority to pass (218 votes). Moreover, agency regulations eliminated under the Congressional Review Act are not exempt from presidents veto power.

Forty-seven Democrats, plus two independents and one Republican currently back the Senate resolution, which was discharged from committee on Wednesday. Only a single additional Republican vote is needed for it to pass.

Over 100 U.S. mayors have also signed a pledge to withhold city contracts from ISPs that violate net neutrality, meaning doing so might ultimately cost them more financially than theyd gain by trashing the open internet.

All this is to say that while the FCC and big telecom have seized a major victory in the battle against net neutrality, the war is far from finished. Its an election year, and the issue remains only partisan within confines of the Capitol complex. Eighty-two percent of Republican voters support net neutrality, according to the most recent academic study.

In a statement, Jessica Rosenworcelthe FCCs sole Democratic commissioner and lone net neutrality supporter following the resignation of Mignon Clyburncalled her agencys decision profoundly disappointing.

The FCC is on the wrong side of history, the wrong side of the law, and the wrong side of the American people, she said.


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Konflikt
05/10/18 12:28:19 PM
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Whoops, forgot to clean up part of that quote
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Blue_Inigo
05/10/18 12:28:40 PM
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Fuck the FCC

Fuck Trump

Fuck Republicans
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ultimate reaver
05/10/18 12:29:07 PM
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so fucking glad i got out of the telecom business this year. sticking around would have made me feel dirty
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Solid Sonic
05/10/18 12:29:15 PM
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Konflikt posted...
It remains unclear if companies such as AT&T, Comcast, and Verizon will take immediate advantage of their new-found role as the internets gatekeepersdoing so may provide net neutrality advocates concrete proof of the hypothetical harms that experts say are likely to result from the FCCs decision, endangering efforts to maintain their new power.

I find this curious.

It makes a valid point. Being a complete ass as soon as you possibly can can backfire.

You have to work your way up to it, encroaching freedoms and consumer rights gradually until you have things the way you want them.
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Offworlder1
05/10/18 12:29:39 PM
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Pretty sure net neutrality was over at the start of 2018, it has been gone for months.
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CableZL
05/10/18 12:30:00 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
so fucking glad i got out of the telecom business this year. sticking around would have made me feel dirty


I was in telecom until a couple years ago. I never want to go back.
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hyperpsycho
05/10/18 12:30:08 PM
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I'm starting to wish the world ended in 2012.
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treewojima
05/10/18 12:31:05 PM
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it'll start out slow, with quiet throttling
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Offworlder1
05/10/18 12:31:08 PM
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@hyperpsycho

Nice to know your a defeatist.
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Master_Bass
05/10/18 12:31:16 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
Pretty sure net neutrality was over at the start of 2018, it has been gone for months.

Nope, the rules were supposed to lapse last month or something like that. The new ones haven't been published yet, though.
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Bio1590
05/10/18 12:32:14 PM
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hyperpsycho posted...
I'm starting to wish the world ended in 2012.

Who's to say it didn't
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R_Jackal
05/10/18 12:33:04 PM
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Congress decided to force through a vote on whether to restore it or not yesterday iirc

Don't think it happened yet though but from the news article it looked promising, can't pull it up right now though.
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PhazonReborn
05/10/18 12:33:05 PM
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hyperpsycho posted...
I'm starting to wish the world ended in 2012.

Talk about wrist slitting emo, over reacting bull shit
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hyperpsycho
05/10/18 12:33:05 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
@hyperpsycho

Nice to know your a defeatist.


PhazonReborn posted...
hyperpsycho posted...
I'm starting to wish the world ended in 2012.

Talk about wrist slitting emo, over reacting bull shit


That climate change topic saying humans might go extinct by 2100 is still in my head right now so I'm feeling defeatist.
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prince_leo
05/10/18 12:33:44 PM
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with the threat of lawsuits from multiple organizations that could force net neutrality to be a thing, plus how quite a few cities and states are beginning to implement their own version of net neutrality, it's going to be interesting how the FCC and the telecom giants address them
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Orthopox12
05/10/18 12:35:41 PM
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hyperpsycho posted...
I'm starting to wish the world ended in 2012.

Honestly would have been a good time
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Medussa
05/10/18 12:36:34 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
Congress decided to force through a vote on whether to restore it or not yesterday iirc

Don't think it happened yet though but from the news article it looked promising, can't pull it up right now though.


it's not all that promising, though. they're only one vote short in the senate, but then it has to pass the house (where they're dozens short), and President (who will never sign it).

we need a court to delay the implementation until at least January (and a massive change in Congress in November.
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lasergun
05/10/18 12:38:01 PM
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May everyone who voted for Donald Trump be forced to pass a kidney stone on that day pewpew
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BLAKUboy
05/10/18 12:38:20 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
Congress decided to force through a vote on whether to restore it or not yesterday iirc

The Senate did, yes. And it is expected to barely pass there. The House will shoot it down and even if it passes them Trump will veto it.

R_Jackal posted...
Don't think it happened yet though but from the news article it looked promising, can't pull it up right now though.

Only "promising" in the sense that it forces Republicans to publicly declare they are against NN and attack them for it during midterms.
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BLAKUboy
05/10/18 12:39:24 PM
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Medussa posted...
they're only one vote short in the senate

They have the 50 votes they need with McCain absentee.
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Medussa
05/10/18 12:40:19 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Medussa posted...
they're only one vote short in the senate

They have the 50 votes they need with McCain absentee.


cool, I was only parroting the article I read. but the senate is arguably the least important until they get to a veto-proof number.

edit: I guess that's not true. getting it through the senate forces the house to vote. so we all get to see who needs to go.
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Darkman124
05/10/18 12:44:27 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
R_Jackal posted...
Congress decided to force through a vote on whether to restore it or not yesterday iirc

The Senate did, yes. And it is expected to barely pass there. The House will shoot it down and even if it passes them Trump will veto it.

R_Jackal posted...
Don't think it happened yet though but from the news article it looked promising, can't pull it up right now though.

Only "promising" in the sense that it forces Republicans to publicly declare they are against NN and attack them for it during midterms.


yep thats the point. NN is dead.
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Romes187
05/10/18 12:46:15 PM
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I'd prefer the legislature vote on something like this instead of the executive branch

I'm old fashioned though :)
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tremain07
05/10/18 12:46:34 PM
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How wonderful it'll be to have to pay even more for less and be assaulted by propaganda websites . I hate this shitty country of corporate ass kissing and ball fondling
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PhazonReborn
05/10/18 12:46:37 PM
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"Net Neutrality is going away in June. Likely nothing is going to change about how you access the internet."

"OMFG I wish the world ended in 2012. FUCK!!! Reeeeeeeeeeee!!! Muh Neutrality!!!"
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clearaflagrantj
05/10/18 12:47:29 PM
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We need a decentralized Internet

Buy Bitcoin and Ethereum folks
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hyperpsycho
05/10/18 12:47:42 PM
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PhazonReborn posted...
"Net Neutrality is going away in June. Likely nothing is going to change about how you access the internet."

"OMFG I wish the world ended in 2012. FUCK!!! Reeeeeeeeeeee!!! Muh Neutrality!!!"

hyperpsycho posted...
That climate change topic saying humans might go extinct by 2100 is still in my head right now so I'm feeling defeatist.


The post wasn't even 100% serious.
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MedzXVIII
05/10/18 12:47:57 PM
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Republicans love big government
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lasergun
05/10/18 12:49:05 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
We need a decentralized Internet

Buy Bitcoin and Ethereum folks


Wasn't it revealed that some of the biggest contributors to those were drug and child traffickers pewpew?
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Darkman124
05/10/18 12:55:49 PM
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Spooking posted...
a huge majority of Republicans live in rural areas


i dont think this is true

rural areas have declined as % of population to less than 20%. metro areas contain the vast, vast majority of the US population. and generally these places have high speed internet access.

i think the majority of republicans live in suburbs.

what may be true is that the majority of republicans don't know how the internet works or what this regulation is, and will therefore side with 'elimination' on principle, with no real information about what they're supporting.
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Konflikt
05/10/18 12:56:15 PM
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PhazonReborn posted...
"Net Neutrality is going away in June. Likely nothing is going to change about how you access the internet."

"OMFG I wish the world ended in 2012. FUCK!!! Reeeeeeeeeeee!!! Muh Neutrality!!!"


You have some serious problems. Granted, those "manlet" topics you made were a dead giveaway of that
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Nuffinz0rz
05/10/18 12:57:49 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
so fucking glad i got out of the telecom business this year. sticking around would have made me feel dirty

Got out at the wrong time, people in there boutta get rich AF
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BigTee66
05/10/18 1:07:46 PM
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05/10/18 2:11:13 PM
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Sad_Face
05/10/18 2:22:08 PM
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Over 100 U.S. mayors have also signed a pledge to withhold city contracts from ISPs that violate net neutrality, meaning doing so might ultimately cost them more financially than theyd gain by trashing the open internet.


Reading this warms my heart. It's reassuring to know that the fate of the net is not determined solely by the decisions of the FCC. There are forces out there that can check and balance to protect the people.
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Axiom
05/10/18 3:26:24 PM
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EggNogPrince posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
Fuck the FCC

Fuck Trump

Fuck Republicans
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LightHawKnight
05/10/18 3:26:25 PM
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What ever happened to the investigation on the FCC?
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Bat178
05/10/18 4:19:15 PM
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What about that state Net Neutrality law California passed? Also, how will Canada, Europe, Australia and New Zealand be effected by this, since their Net Neutrality laws aren't dictated by the FCC?
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R_Jackal
05/10/18 5:34:25 PM
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Bat178 posted...
What about that state Net Neutrality law California passed? Also, how will Canada, Europe, Australia and New Zealand be effected by this, since their Net Neutrality laws aren't dictated by the FCC?

I mean, they aren't dictated by the FCC so it won't. Unless they of their own decision opt to follow the US in this.
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Bat178
05/10/18 5:36:05 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
Bat178 posted...
What about that state Net Neutrality law California passed? Also, how will Canada, Europe, Australia and New Zealand be effected by this, since their Net Neutrality laws aren't dictated by the FCC?

I mean, they aren't dictated by the FCC so it won't. Unless they of their own decision opt to follow the US in this.

With the backlash it's gotten and not having an oligarchy with their ISPs unlike the US, they would be wise not to.
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CableZL
05/10/18 5:36:28 PM
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Bat178 posted...
What about that state Net Neutrality law California passed? Also, how will Canada, Europe, Australia and New Zealand be effected by this, since their Net Neutrality laws aren't dictated by the FCC?


The only way it would affect other countries is if US ISPs block/throttle service to end-point servers in the US that people in other countries are trying to access.
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spudger
05/10/18 5:39:33 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Konflikt posted...
It remains unclear if companies such as AT&T, Comcast, and Verizon will take immediate advantage of their new-found role as the internets gatekeepersdoing so may provide net neutrality advocates concrete proof of the hypothetical harms that experts say are likely to result from the FCCs decision, endangering efforts to maintain their new power.

I find this curious.

It makes a valid point. Being a complete ass as soon as you possibly can can backfire.

You have to work your way up to it, encroaching freedoms and consumer rights gradually until you have things the way you want them.

Republicans will not get the point in this quality post
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