Poll of the Day > Your thoughts on "neocons" (America)?

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TheCyborgNinja 05/08/18 9:20:58 PM #1:	How do you feel about them? - Results (8 votes) I'm mostly politically left and I hate them. 25% (2 votes) 2 I'm mostly politcally right and I hate them. 25% (2 votes) 2 I'm a centrist and I hate them. 25% (2 votes) 2 I'm mostly politically left and I like them. 0% (0 votes) 0 I'm mostly politically right and I like them. 12.5% (1 votes) 1 I'm a centrist and I like them. 0% (0 votes) 0 I am a "neocon". 12.5% (1 votes) 1 I'm completely indifferent. 0% (0 votes) 0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:901026773] in Your thoug... [t:76590642]...</cite> <quote> How do you feel about them? - Results (8 votes) I'm mostly politically left and I hate them. 25% (2 votes) 2 I'm mostly politcally right and I hate them. 25% (2 votes) 2 I'm a centrist and I hate them. 25% (2 votes) 2 I'm mostly politically left and I like them. 0% (0 votes) 0 I'm mostly politically right and I like them. 12.5% (1 votes) 1 I'm a centrist and I like them. 0% (0 votes) 0 I am a "neocon". 12.5% (1 votes) 1 I'm completely indifferent. 0% (0 votes) 0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/08/18 9:31:59 PM #2:	Im not a fan, theyre far to quick to use military force before attempting to resolve things with diplomacy --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:901027435] in Your thoug... [t:76590642]...</cite> <quote>Im not a fan, theyre far to quick to use military force before attempting to resolve things with diplomacy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/08/18 9:38:02 PM #3:	I'm not sure it's a particularly useful label given the broad range of people it's been applied to. And, quite honestly, you have democrats who are also disturbingly hawkish. As a general policy, I'm not sure that I support the proliferation of democracy in regions that don't necessarily have a good history or understanding of democracy because those governments can quickly devolve into even worse states. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:901027855] in Your thoug... [t:76590642]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure it's a particularly useful label given the broad range of people it's been applied to. And, quite honestly, you have democrats who are also disturbingly hawkish. As a general policy, I'm not sure that I support the proliferation of democracy in regions that don't necessarily have a good history or understanding of democracy because those governments can quickly devolve into even worse states.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 05/08/18 9:42:54 PM #4:	Zeus posted... As a general policy, I'm not sure that I support the proliferation of democracy in regions that don't necessarily have a good history or understanding of democracy because those governments can quickly devolve into even worse states. I couldn't agree more. In the west, we tend to think "we have it good and everyone else would automatically love our way of life" when that's very inaccurate. There are many cultures that don't thrive within our way of doing things or will simply take advantage of it and corrupt it. My dad worked national security, and one of the other guys in it at the time said some Russians referred to North America as "the land of uncaring fools" because it was so easy for them to abuse our system. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:901028165] in Your thoug... [t:76590642]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>As a general policy, I'm not sure that I support the proliferation of democracy in regions that don't necessarily have a good history or understanding of democracy because those governments can quickly devolve into even worse states.</quote> I couldn't agree more. In the west, we tend to think "we have it good and everyone else would automatically love our way of life" when that's very inaccurate. There are many cultures that don't thrive within our way of doing things or will simply take advantage of it and corrupt it. My dad worked national security, and one of the other guys in it at the time said some Russians referred to North America as "the land of uncaring fools" because it was so easy for them to abuse our system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/08/18 9:45:43 PM #5:	Um the spread of democracy has seen the decline of violence worldwide along with near elimination of hunger for most of the world If you really think things would be better with more monarchies, dictatorships, and communist governments, then fucking lol --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:901028351] in Your thoug... [t:76590642]...</cite> <quote>Um the spread of democracy has seen the decline of violence worldwide along with near elimination of hunger for most of the world If you really think things would be better with more monarchies, dictatorships, and communist governments, then fucking lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/08/18 9:55:23 PM #6:	Mead posted... Um the spread of democracy has seen the decline of violence worldwide along with near elimination of hunger for most of the world Which is more the result of free trade and open markets than it has anything to do with democracy. The greatest vehicle for prosperity and peace has been capitalism. No matter what kind of government you have, if your neighbors are your trading partners you have an incentive to not attack them. However, if you're not trading with them, it doesn't matter if you're a democracy because you're going to try to fuck with them -- which the US has historically done to its non-trading partners, including facilitating the overthrow of governments throughout South America to place governments more friendly to US businesses. Keep in mind that the world's largest warring power has been the US, which is is one of the world's most notable democracies. Mead posted... If you really think things would be better with more monarchies, dictatorships, and communist governments, then fucking lol And, excluding monarchies, you get worse versions of those kinds of governments when democracy fails in a region. Keep in mind that Syria, which nobody considers a functional nation at the moment, is a democracy and Bashar is its elected president. But I'll cut you some slack because you just become "woke" when Trump was elected president. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:901028891] in Your thoug... [t:76590642]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Um the spread of democracy has seen the decline of violence worldwide along with near elimination of hunger for most of the world</quote> Which is more the result of free trade and open markets than it has anything to do with democracy. The greatest vehicle for prosperity and peace has been capitalism. No matter what kind of government you have, if your neighbors are your trading partners you have an incentive to not attack them. However, if you're not trading with them, it doesn't matter if you're a democracy because you're going to try to fuck with them -- which the US has historically done to its non-trading partners, including facilitating the overthrow of governments throughout South America to place governments more friendly to US businesses. Keep in mind that the world's largest warring power has been the US, which is is one of the world's most notable democracies. <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>If you really think things would be better with more monarchies, dictatorships, and communist governments, then fucking lol</quote> And, excluding monarchies, you get worse versions of those kinds of governments when democracy fails in a region. Keep in mind that Syria, which nobody considers a functional nation at the moment, is a democracy and Bashar is its elected president. But I'll cut you some slack because you just become "woke" when Trump was elected president.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/08/18 9:56:39 PM #7:	The greatest vehicle for prosperity and peace has been capitalism. Something that obviously has no association with democracy at all But I'll cut you some slack because you just become "woke" when Trump was elected president. A claim youve made repeatedly based on nothing at all. Fake news pulled directly from your posterior --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:901028957] in Your thoug... [t:76590642]...</cite> <quote><quote>The greatest vehicle for prosperity and peace has been capitalism.</quote> Something that obviously has no association with democracy at all <quote>But I'll cut you some slack because you just become "woke" when Trump was elected president.</quote> A claim youve made repeatedly based on nothing at all. Fake news pulled directly from your posterior</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/08/18 9:59:54 PM #8:	Mead posted... The greatest vehicle for prosperity and peace has been capitalism. Something that obviously has no association with democracy at all The two aren't necessarily intrinsically connected. And it's capitalism that's been the driving force for democracy in many nations, particularly concerning the advent of social media. Mead posted... But I'll cut you some slack because you just become "woke" when Trump was elected president. A claim youve made repeatedly based on nothing at all. Other than your political knowledge (or, more specifically, lack thereof) and sudden interest in political conversation. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:901029173] in Your thoug... [t:76590642]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><quote>The greatest vehicle for prosperity and peace has been capitalism.</quote> Something that obviously has no association with democracy at all </quote> The two aren't necessarily intrinsically connected. And it's capitalism that's been the driving force for democracy in many nations, particularly concerning the advent of social media. <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><quote>But I'll cut you some slack because you just become "woke" when Trump was elected president.</quote> A claim youve made repeatedly based on nothing at all.</quote> Other than your political knowledge (or, more specifically, lack thereof) and sudden interest in political conversation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Andromicus 05/08/18 10:02:34 PM #9:	I prefer the term cucks --- PotD's official master braider <cite>Andromicus posted [p:901029339] in Your thoug... [t:76590642]...</cite> <quote>I prefer the term cucks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/08/18 10:04:03 PM #10:	Zeus posted... Mead posted... The greatest vehicle for prosperity and peace has been capitalism. Something that obviously has no association with democracy at all The two aren't necessarily intrinsically connected. And it's capitalism that's been the driving force for democracy in many nations, particularly concerning the advent of social media. Mead posted... But I'll cut you some slack because you just become "woke" when Trump was elected president. A claim youve made repeatedly based on nothing at all. Other than your political knowledge (or, more specifically, lack thereof) and sudden interest in political conversation. Fake news, and pretty ironic at that given that youre arguing that free trade and democracy dont have strong ties Fucking lol dude --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:901029429] in Your thoug... [t:76590642]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><quote>The greatest vehicle for prosperity and peace has been capitalism.</quote> Something that obviously has no association with democracy at all </quote> The two aren't necessarily intrinsically connected. And it's capitalism that's been the driving force for democracy in many nations, particularly concerning the advent of social media. <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><quote>But I'll cut you some slack because you just become "woke" when Trump was elected president.</quote> A claim youve made repeatedly based on nothing at all.</quote> Other than your political knowledge (or, more specifically, lack thereof) and sudden interest in political conversation.</quote> Fake news, and pretty ironic at that given that youre arguing that free trade and democracy dont have strong ties Fucking lol dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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