Current Events > Trump team hired Israeli intelligence to sabotage and discredit Iran Deal

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https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/05/trump-team-hired-spy-firm-dirty-ops-iran-nuclear-deal

Uhhh, this is straight Nixon shit if true. Story just broke, so unable to find anywhere else yet, but a lot of people are retweeting it.
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If nothing is done about this and no one faces any consequences I think it's time for everyone to reconsider some things.
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Doom_Art posted...

If nothing is done about this and no one faces any consequences I think it's time for everyone to reconsider some things.

It will be true and nobody will reconsider anything. That's how the world works :/
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Doom_Art posted...

it's time for everyone to reconsider some things.

Such as?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Such as?

This whole "President Trump" thing
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Israel wants a war with Iran and the MIC does too
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Doom_Art posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Such as?

This whole "President Trump" thing

That's not really something Joe Q on the street can decide bro.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

That's not really something Joe Q on the street can decide bro.

Sure it is
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Doom_Art posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

That's not really something Joe Q on the street can decide bro.

Sure it is

Ok good luck with that buddy.

I'll just go decide that Putin doesn't get to run Russia and he'll step down tomorrow.
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Before sources get called into question, The Guardian and Observer trend left, but do not report fake news.
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wow shocking surprise
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I think at the very least, Congress should take the decision of the Iran deal out of Trump's hands. This is blatant corruption.
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Doom_Art posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

That's not really something Joe Q on the street can decide bro.

Sure it is

Not really. Tons of things that become standard aren't passed because "the people" approve of them.... Infrastructure upgrades and social policies that would cost companies money (one way or another) are axed because of big donors needing to post ever-increasing profits year after year. Politicians offer up lip service to the masses with a few things to help get elected or look better than their competition. It's never because they care about right or wrong. That's why I hate the two-party system, there's really no accountability. If something like Italy's Five Star Movement just popped up and won the country, all the old suits would die of misery.
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SomeonesAlt posted...

The Guardian
do not report fake news.

Errrrr
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Doom_Art posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Such as?

This whole "President Trump" thing

He's making America great again. We're happy with our choice.
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at this point there isn't just smoke. the entire pile is on fire but they just keep raising the seats so no one can see it.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

SomeonesAlt posted...

The Guardian
do not report fake news.

Errrrr

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/

LEFT-CENTER BIAS

These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Notes: The Guardian is a daily newspaper from the United Kingdom. The Guardian freely admits they are a center-left newspaper. Reports factually, but with a left-center bias in reporting and sometimes wording. (5/18/2016)
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I don't know about fact check websites but I used to work for the Guardian and trust me, they're not awful but....

Well let's just say if you think CNN is fake news then you can't throw stones at the Guardian.

Saying they have a "Center-left bias" is putting it mildly, they will flat out leave out important information just to push a story. It's a politically motivated paper.
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SomeonesAlt posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

SomeonesAlt posted...

The Guardian
do not report fake news.

Errrrr

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/

LEFT-CENTER BIAS

These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Notes: The Guardian is a daily newspaper from the United Kingdom. The Guardian freely admits they are a center-left newspaper. Reports factually, but with a left-center bias in reporting and sometimes wording. (5/18/2016)

so what you're saying is it's fake news
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SomeonesAlt posted...

I think at the very least, Congress should take the decision of the Iran deal out of Trump's hands. This is blatant corruption.

The Iran deal itself was blatant corruption.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/

Basically, Obama torpedoed every US investigation into Hezbollah's drug smuggling, terrorist activities, gun running, and killing of Americans to make this deal. He actively impeded investigation into the highest levels of Hezbollah and the Iranian government.

Fuck the Iran nuclear deal.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I don't know about fact check websites but I used to work for the Guardian and trust me, they're not awful but....

Well let's just say if you think CNN is fake news then you can't throw stones at the Guardian.

Saying they have a "Center-left bias" is putting it mildly, they will flat out leave out important information just to push a story. It's a politically motivated paper.

How about the Observer, their sister paper? This was reported directly from them.

Also wouldn't making up something like this go much farther than that brand of fake news?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I used to work for the Guardian

Literally fake news lol
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SomeonesAlt posted...

Also wouldn't making up something like this go much farther than that brand of fake news?

Yeah probably.

I'm not disputing the story I'm just saying going "It's not fake news, it's the Guardian!" is like going "It's not fake news! It's CNN!"

Just implies you've never read the Guardian and don't know about it's reputation
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UnfairRepresent posted...

SomeonesAlt posted...

Also wouldn't making up something like this go much farther than that brand of fake news?

Yeah probably.

I'm not disputing the story I'm just saying going "It's not fake news, it's the Guardian!" is like going "It's not fake news! It's CNN!"

Just implies you've never read the Guardian and don't know about it's reputation

I have read random stories posted from the Guardian here and there, but I didn't realize it was regarded as fake news.
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SomeonesAlt posted...

I have read random stories posted from the Guardian here and there, but I didn't realize it was regarded as fake news.

Eh

Depends on the story. I dunno I'd say it's 50-50. It's more like propaganda than fake news.
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Who cares? Iran is run by radical islamists who financially support terrorism.

Until the next revolution happens, the country is nothing but garbage.
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Nobel! Nobel! Nobel!
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Smashingpmkns posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

I used to work for the Guardian

Literally fake news lol

Lmfao. People going around claiming to work for news organizations just to argue it's unreliable now

0TiamaT0 posted...

Who cares? Iran is run by radical islamists who financially support terrorism.

Until the next revolution happens, the country is nothing but garbage.

Israel could easily make a friend out of its people by toppling that regime though, as long as they go in all Marshall Plan and not Treaty of Versailles.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Sounds like Trump, has this been confirmed yet?

No. It just broke, and currently the Observer through the Guardian is the only one covering it.
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Okay but who cares? Michelle Wolf called SHS ugly, let's focus on that.

ThanksUglyGod posted...

Okay but who cares? Michelle Wolf called SHS ugly, let's focus on that.

oh shit she what
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_BlueMonk posted...

ThanksUglyGod posted...

Okay but who cares? Michelle Wolf called SHS ugly, let's focus on that.

oh shit she what

She verbally molested SHS!

That's somebody's daughter!

ThanksUglyGod posted...

Okay but who cares? Michelle Wolf called SHS ugly, let's focus on that.

She didn't even do that, lol.
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hmm...
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ColinKahl/status/993000884169666561

According to this story, in May of last year, Team Trump asked an Israeli intel firm to dig up dirt on me as part of an effort to discredit the Iran deal.

Tonight, as my wife read this story, that date triggered a very creepy memory.

Last year, my wife was serving on the fundraising committee of my daughter's public charter school in DC. One day, out of the blue, she received an email from someone claiming to represent a socially responsible private equity firm in the UK.

This "UK person" said "she" was flying to DC soon and wanted to have coffee with my wife to discuss the possibility of including my daughter's school in their educational fund network.

This was not a generic "Nigerian prince" scam. This person had all sorts of specific information on my wife's volunteer duties at an obscure DC elementary school.

There was a website for the firm (which no longer exists, by the way), but it had no depth to it, and there was no detailed information about the "UK person" who reached out to my wife.

My wife shared the email with me and a few people we know in both the finance and education fields. All agreed that the entire scenario seemed implausible and seemed like an approach by a foreign intelligence entity.

To test the implausibility, my wife kept trying to encourage the "UK person" over email to meet with other school fundraising officers & leadership while "she" was in DC, providing relevant contact info. But the "UK person" kept insisting that "she" had to meet with my wife.

At that point, my wife stopped corresponding.

This all happened in late May and early June of last year.

Perhaps it was just a coincidence that this obvious scam targeting my family had all the hallmarks of an intel op and coincided with Team Trump's reported efforts to "dig up dirt" on me.

But the fact that I even have to think about the possibility that my family was targeted by people working for the President is yet another sign of the fundamental degradation of our country that Trump has produced.

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TheRealDill2000 posted...

Doom_Art posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Such as?

This whole "President Trump" thing

He's making America great again. We're happy with our choice.

He could show up at your house, pour 20 gallons of diarrhea on you and light you on fire on your front lawn and you'd post this again before dying.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I don't know about fact check websites but I used to work for the guardian

I remember you. I was only middle management at the time. Moved up later on but eventually left to pursue other opportunities. You were the guy who got too drunk at that one office party, removed your pants and started doing inappropriate things to a water cooler right? I told HR you were only joking and shouldn't be fired but they didn't take my advice unfortunately :/
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If this isn't ilegal, how is it not
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Phantom_Nook posted...

https://mobile.twitter.com/ColinKahl/status/993000884169666561

According to this story, in May of last year, Team Trump asked an Israeli intel firm to dig up dirt on me as part of an effort to discredit the Iran deal.

Tonight, as my wife read this story, that date triggered a very creepy memory.

Last year, my wife was serving on the fundraising committee of my daughter's public charter school in DC. One day, out of the blue, she received an email from someone claiming to represent a socially responsible private equity firm in the UK.

This "UK person" said "she" was flying to DC soon and wanted to have coffee with my wife to discuss the possibility of including my daughter's school in their educational fund network.

This was not a generic "Nigerian prince" scam. This person had all sorts of specific information on my wife's volunteer duties at an obscure DC elementary school.

There was a website for the firm (which no longer exists, by the way), but it had no depth to it, and there was no detailed information about the "UK person" who reached out to my wife.

My wife shared the email with me and a few people we know in both the finance and education fields. All agreed that the entire scenario seemed implausible and seemed like an approach by a foreign intelligence entity.

To test the implausibility, my wife kept trying to encourage the "UK person" over email to meet with other school fundraising officers & leadership while "she" was in DC, providing relevant contact info. But the "UK person" kept insisting that "she" had to meet with my wife.

At that point, my wife stopped corresponding.

This all happened in late May and early June of last year.

Perhaps it was just a coincidence that this obvious scam targeting my family had all the hallmarks of an intel op and coincided with Team Trump's reported efforts to "dig up dirt" on me.

But the fact that I even have to think about the possibility that my family was targeted by people working for the President is yet another sign of the fundamental degradation of our country that Trump has produced.

Wow, that definitely lends credence to this
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bump because this is important if true
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UnfairRepresent posted...

trust me

No.
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https://nypost.com/2018/05/07/trump-aides-hired-israeli-operatives-to-find-dirt-on-obama-staffers-behind-iran-deal/

New York Post has picked this up. They've been rather pro Trump, so them posting this is a definite nod to its veracity.

Also of note is that the White House is not denying, simply "no comment"ing
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