Current Events > Trump pushes for LEGAL immigration changes on 5 de mayo

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Shuto-uke
05/05/18 1:45:37 PM
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In his Ohio speech going on right now.

You know, his whole "merit based" system that overwhelmingly favored non-hispanic whites. He also whined about mexicans overrunning the border and benefiting from "catch and release". Happy 5 de mayo!

Dude is racist as fuck.
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APM
05/05/18 1:46:35 PM
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What's wrong with merit based? You happy with the lotto system we currently have that brings in worthless people that leeches off the the tax payers billions every year?
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cjsdowg
05/05/18 1:53:47 PM
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He has wife that got here because of the way she looks and he is talking about merit.
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Shuto-uke
05/05/18 1:55:07 PM
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APM posted...
What's wrong with merit based? You happy with the lotto system we currently have that brings in worthless people that leeches off the the tax payers billions every year?


nobody is talking about the lotto system.

And it's not truly a merit based system, that's just a buzzword. It is a points based system carefully crafted by known supremacist Tom Cotton where age displaces educational level (so if you're younger you're uneducated, but if you have a PhD you may be too old to get good points) and speaking English natively grants more points than (or at least as much as) having a PhD in a STEM field.

In practice, a 25 year old British bartender would get more points than a 24 yr old PhD in quantum mechanics if he happens to be French or Italian, and therefore, not a native English speaker.
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APM
05/05/18 1:55:29 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
He has wife that got here because of the way she looks and he is talking about merit.

I mean that's a merit she can easily get a job with her good looks
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Shuto-uke
05/05/18 1:55:52 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
He has wife that got here because of the way she looks and he is talking about merit.


I've seen scrambled egg shells less broken than her English. She could never get here under the system he proposes.
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spudger
05/05/18 1:56:14 PM
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APM posted...
cjsdowg posted...
He has wife that got here because of the way she looks and he is talking about merit.

I mean that's a merit she can easily get a job with her good looks

nice troll job, hoth
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Axiom
05/05/18 1:56:37 PM
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"I know what I'll do. I'll give a speech about mexicans on Cinco De Mayo. That'll stick it to them"
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Shuto-uke
05/05/18 1:57:19 PM
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APM posted...
cjsdowg posted...
He has wife that got here because of the way she looks and he is talking about merit.

I mean that's a merit she can easily get a job with her good looks


Again, the "merit based system" is just a bigoted points system meant to bring young white English speaking males, see post # 4
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Shuto-uke
05/05/18 1:57:32 PM
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Axiom posted...
"I know what I'll do. I'll give a speech about mexicans on Cinco De Mayo. That'll stick it to them"


pretty much this
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ledbowman
05/05/18 1:59:29 PM
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BLAKUboy
05/05/18 2:01:51 PM
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I don't think this has anything to do with it being Cinco de Mayo. He's just been overly pissy about Hispanics in general lately.
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APM
05/05/18 2:02:30 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
APM posted...
What's wrong with merit based? You happy with the lotto system we currently have that brings in worthless people that leeches off the the tax payers billions every year?


nobody is talking about the lotto system.

And it's not truly a merit based system, that's just a buzzword. It is a points based system carefully crafted by known supremacist Tom Cotton where age displaces educational level (so if you're younger you're uneducated, but if you have a PhD you may be too old to get good points) and speaking English natively grants more points than (or at least as much as) having a PhD in a STEM field.

In practice, a 25 year old British bartender would get more points than a 24 yr old PhD in quantum mechanics if he happens to be French or Italian, and therefore, not a native English speaker.

Yeah I guess Canada is racist as shit as well.
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Shuto-uke
05/05/18 2:05:15 PM
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APM posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
APM posted...
What's wrong with merit based? You happy with the lotto system we currently have that brings in worthless people that leeches off the the tax payers billions every year?


nobody is talking about the lotto system.

And it's not truly a merit based system, that's just a buzzword. It is a points based system carefully crafted by known supremacist Tom Cotton where age displaces educational level (so if you're younger you're uneducated, but if you have a PhD you may be too old to get good points) and speaking English natively grants more points than (or at least as much as) having a PhD in a STEM field.

In practice, a 25 year old British bartender would get more points than a 24 yr old PhD in quantum mechanics if he happens to be French or Italian, and therefore, not a native English speaker.

Yeah I guess Canada is racist as shit as well.


Typical alt right talking point.

Canada and Australia do indeed have point based systems. But they also have family based immigration, which 45 seeks to finish.

And Canada and Australia want PhDs and educational achievement, they are not offsetting those with age and they won't grant more points to a white brit bartender than a french guy with a PhD in quantum mechanics
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tennisdude818
05/05/18 2:06:21 PM
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Why dont we just make it so that new arrivals and their immediate families are not eligible for any government assistance for 10-20 years? That would result in effective self filtration.
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glitteringfairy
05/05/18 2:06:37 PM
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I didn't know Mexican was a race
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Hexenherz
05/05/18 2:41:18 PM
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it's funny since cinco de mayo is basically an appropriated holiday in the US / an excuse for frat boys to get drunk
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glitteringfairy
05/05/18 2:44:53 PM
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26_Sandman_39 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
I didn't know Indian/Asian/African was not a race

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Nomadic View
05/05/18 2:49:38 PM
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How the fuck does a merit based system favor any race?
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On_The_Edge
05/05/18 2:50:37 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
How the fuck does a merit based system favor any race?

It does if you're a racist who feels guilty about it
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jumi
05/05/18 2:51:33 PM
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It's pretty obvious why he wants to end chain migration. That's how Melania's parents got in, and he hates his in-laws!
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EliteC
05/05/18 2:54:33 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
How the fuck does a merit based system favor any race?


Read the fucking posts, I already explained
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creativerealms
05/05/18 2:56:32 PM
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A merit based system? Like DACA was?
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3khc
05/05/18 2:59:25 PM
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Merit system sucks if it's anything like how college works.
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samurai bandit
05/05/18 3:10:33 PM
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What happened to "only illegal immigrants will be afected"?
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Shuto-uke
05/05/18 4:43:42 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
How the fuck does a merit based system favor any race?


It's been explained, it's not really a merit system. Now shut up and read post 14.
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Shuto-uke
05/05/18 4:45:25 PM
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samurai bandit posted...
What happened to "only illegal immigrants will be afected"?


he won the election so he didn't need to keep pretending
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tennisdude818
05/05/18 4:50:06 PM
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You can either have a generous welfare state, or you can have borders that are open to poor people from the 3rd world. You can't sustain both at the same time.
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coderevolution
05/05/18 4:51:41 PM
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Hillary really wrecked this country.
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kingdrake2
05/05/18 4:53:11 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
26_Sandman_39 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
I didn't know Indian/Asian/African was not a race

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dameon_reaper
05/05/18 4:53:17 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
samurai bandit posted...
What happened to "only illegal immigrants will be afected"?


he won the election so he didn't need to keep pretending


Most people are pretending. "I don't like illegals" but they don't like legals either...

Its just a matter of wording it so they don't come off like bigots.
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FLUFFYGERM
05/05/18 4:55:40 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
You can either have a generous welfare state, or you can have borders that are open to poor people from the 3rd world. You can't sustain both at the same time.


this
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knuxnole
05/05/18 4:56:22 PM
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He has some good points tbh
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Capn Circus
05/05/18 5:18:38 PM
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Good. I'm glad we have a president actually willing to do something
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Shuto-uke
05/05/18 5:33:59 PM
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@Capn Circus posted...
Good. I'm glad we have a president actually willing to do something


Something about what? Legal immigration? Too many "dark" people for you?
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knuxnole
05/05/18 5:39:01 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Good. I'm glad we have a president actually willing to do something


Agreed

Illegals are gross
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twitterfriends
05/05/18 5:40:22 PM
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Even under his new suggestions Melania would've been deported for being illegal lmao.
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catboy0_0
05/05/18 8:36:35 PM
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you just know he decided to do it today to piss people off and get all the attention
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Funbazooka
05/05/18 8:57:32 PM
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Are you accusing the Trump administration of violating the law when it comes to immigration? Because this is the law:

The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 (H.R. 2580; Pub.L. 89236, 79 Stat. 911, enacted June 30, 1968), also known as the HartCeller Act,[1] changed the way quotas were allocated by ending the National Origins Formula that had been in place in the United States since the Emergency Quota Act of 1921. Representative Emanuel Celler of New York proposed the bill, Senator Philip Hart of Michigan co-sponsored it, and Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts helped to promote it.

The HartCeller Act abolished the quota system based on national origins that had been American immigration policy since the 1920s. The 1965 Act marked a change from past U.S. policy which had discriminated against non-northern Europeans.[2] In removing racial and national barriers the Act would significantly alter the demographic mix in the U.S.[2]

The new law maintained the per-country limits, but also created preference visa categories that focused on immigrants' skills and family relationships with citizens or U.S. residents. The bill set numerical restrictions on visas at 170,000 per year, with a per-country-of-origin quota. However, immediate relatives of U.S. citizens and "special immigrants" had no restrictions.[1]
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Funbazooka
05/05/18 9:04:55 PM
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To put it simply, if standards and requirements aren't met by someone not white, it doesn't mean those requirements were racist. It means they didn't meet the requirements. White skin is not a requirement.

Same situation with test scores or job qualifications or athletic tryouts or a driver's license test. The list goes on
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Shuto-uke
05/06/18 1:37:27 AM
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26_Sandman_39 posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
@Capn_Circus posted...
Good. I'm glad we have a president actually willing to do something


Something about what? Legal immigration? Too many "dark" people for you?


why do so many people who want to insinuate others are racist always use the actual racials slurs like dark people even if its meant ironically


let capn circus defend his statement
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Shuto-uke
05/06/18 1:38:16 AM
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twitterfriends posted...
Even under his new suggestions Melania would've been deported for being illegal lmao.


did you even read the fucking title? The word legal was spelled there, in caps so people like you would see it.

Geez.
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