Current Events > George RR Martin confirms The Winds of Winter will NOT be released this year

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Zora_Prince
04/26/18 10:11:17 PM
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http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/

I would say I'm upset and angry with this news, but honestly, I've just accepted it for the most part. I've accepted that it's not only possible but at this point, very likely the series will not be finished. It's nearly been 7 years since the last book, there is still at least one more to go after that (I don't see how he can finish it in 2), and Martin is turning 70 this year. I don't know if he's given up, lost interest, or written himself into an inescapable corner (I imagine it's a mixture of them all), but there is clearly something more severe than simply "being a slow writer" at hand in these delays.

I'm not going to pretend I'm not disappointed, but I'm past the point of getting too riled about it. I've moved on to new books.

I will say that I do know that George RR Martin owes me nothing and is at perfect liberty to write whatever he wants. However, I do think it looks tacky as **** that when you've become infamous for delaying the latest entry in your flagship series that you know fans have been impatiently waiting for for years and you instead release a near thousand-page spin-off novel. Especially when you dedicated a tiny paragraph to the Winds of Winter news and a giant wall of text to the spin-off novel in your blog.

How does everyone else feel about this?
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pegusus123456
04/26/18 10:12:42 PM
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well duh
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MuayThai85
04/26/18 10:12:54 PM
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Tbh, fuck that guy. He's an asshole who has been stringing along fans for over 20 years.
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04/26/18 10:13:02 PM
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04/26/18 10:13:08 PM
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JordanPeterson
04/26/18 10:13:28 PM
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jpenny2
04/26/18 10:14:31 PM
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He's never going to finish the series.
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Freddie_Mercury
04/26/18 10:15:37 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
well duh

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iClockwork
04/26/18 10:16:15 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Tbh, fuck that guy. He's an asshole who has been stringing along fans for over 20 years.

Fuck off. The guy is free to do as he pleases and has no obligation to write books. It's his story to do as he pleases with and he doesn't owe greasy nerds anything.
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TheBiggerWiggle
04/26/18 10:20:23 PM
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I've accepted that he will die before the series concludes. Whatever happens on Game of Thrones is the outline to how he wanted to finish the story.
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Zora_Prince
04/26/18 10:21:18 PM
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At this point the fourth book of Stormlight Archives will be out before we know what happens to Jaime/Brienne....and the third book came out this year!


I've literally thought "It's been a decade since I finished a Feast for Crows and we still don't know how that thread is going to be resolved!"
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Cosmic_Diabetic
04/26/18 10:21:54 PM
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It's not even the last book....
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g0ldie
04/26/18 10:22:36 PM
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I guess that GoT will have the official ending, then, for good or bad.
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MuayThai85
04/26/18 10:27:59 PM
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iClockwork posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Tbh, fuck that guy. He's an asshole who has been stringing along fans for over 20 years.

Fuck off. The guy is free to do as he pleases and has no obligation to write books. It's his story to do as he pleases with and he doesn't owe greasy nerds anything.


You don't string along your fanbase unless you're an asshole. Anyone who supports that kind of shit is an asshole as well. If you don't intend on finishing your books or you simply don't want to, you tell the fans that have been following your series for 20 years that you aren't going to finish them. But what does he do instead? Tells everyone the next book will come out that year, then no it will be next year, etc while writing other useless shit that no one wants to read anyways.

He does have an obligation to his fans. If it wasn't for his fans, he wouldn't be remotely where he is today.
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Unsugarized_Foo
04/26/18 10:29:09 PM
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Im glad I usually wait for a show/series/whatever to finish before I start
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iClockwork
04/26/18 10:31:57 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Tells everyone the next book will come out that year, then no it will be next year, etc while writing other useless shit that no one wants to read anyways.

He does have an obligation to his fans. If it wasn't for his fans, he wouldn't be remotely where he is today.

So the fuck what. Be grateful for the story you've been gifted so far. Again he's free to do as he pleases. If he meant to finish the book one year then he decides not to in favor of something else that's his business.
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Metallic Slug13
04/26/18 10:33:19 PM
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I accepted that the series was likely not going to be finished after I saw that interview of him getting pissy about that dude asking him about fans being worried that he'll die before completion. Almost as if he knew it was becoming more likely
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MuayThai85
04/26/18 10:34:42 PM
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Gifted? You mean purchased, right? Purchased with the understanding that we would get to finish the final product in our lifetimes.

I know you're just a lousy troll but still, if you don't understand why people are upset and rightfully so, then you're not very intelligent.
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iClockwork
04/26/18 10:34:55 PM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
Actually he has several obligations to write books.

No he doesn't. Fans screeching he does doesn't make it true.
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CanuckCowboy
04/26/18 10:35:12 PM
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iClockwork posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Tells everyone the next book will come out that year, then no it will be next year, etc while writing other useless shit that no one wants to read anyways.

He does have an obligation to his fans. If it wasn't for his fans, he wouldn't be remotely where he is today.

So the fuck what. Be grateful for the story you've been gifted so far. Again he's free to do as he pleases. If he meant to finish the book one year then he decides not to in favor of something else that's his business.


Nah buds.

Starting a story you don't intend to finish /don't care to finish /didn't ever have an ending in plan for is kinda shitty. Especially when it becomes something people really care about.
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ArchNemo
04/26/18 10:36:36 PM
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iClockwork posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Tells everyone the next book will come out that year, then no it will be next year, etc while writing other useless shit that no one wants to read anyways.

He does have an obligation to his fans. If it wasn't for his fans, he wouldn't be remotely where he is today.

So the fuck what. Be grateful for the story you've been gifted so far. Again he's free to do as he pleases. If he meant to finish the book one year then he decides not to in favor of something else that's his business.


So if you went to a theatre and watched half a movie before being kicked out, that'd be fine with you?
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iClockwork
04/26/18 10:38:12 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Purchased with the understanding that we would get to finish the final product in our lifetimes.

No you purchased that chapter of the story that he was nice enough to create. You haven't mailed him money or made a down payment.

MuayThai85 posted...
if you don't understand why people are upset and rightfully so, then you're not very intelligent.

I get why they're upset. I also think it's selfish and childish. Be grateful for what you've been given.
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iClockwork
04/26/18 10:39:46 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
So if you went to a theatre and watched half a movie before being kicked out, that'd be fine with you?

Not an accurate analogy. You got to read the whole book you purchased.
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ReD_ToMaTo
04/26/18 10:41:02 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Be grateful for the story you've been gifted so far.


Why would I be grateful for a half finished story? I wouldn't have started reading and supporting the guy if I knew he was gonna be a huge fucking asshole. Fuck him.

iClockwork posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
Actually he has several obligations to write books.

No he doesn't. Fans screeching he does doesn't make it true.


What about his publisher?
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008Zulu
04/26/18 10:41:31 PM
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JordanPeterson posted...
Translation: "I don't know how to end this shit."

He'll figure it out, once HBO wrap the series on t.v. Then it will be all "That's how I was going to end it anyway!"
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iClockwork
04/26/18 10:43:26 PM
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ReD_ToMaTo posted...
What about his publisher?

"Please publish anything so I can get rich, idc what the quality is I just need your name on it George."

Yeah i'm sure his publisher has you fans as his highest priority.
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MuayThai85
04/26/18 10:43:33 PM
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ReD_ToMaTo posted...
iClockwork posted...
Be grateful for the story you've been gifted so far.


Why would I be grateful for a half finished story? I wouldn't have started reading and supporting the guy if I knew he was gonna be a huge fucking asshole. Fuck him.



Exactly. If he told everyone when the first book released that he would take over 20 years and will likely never finish the book he would be a nobody today. For a writer or a musician, you are nothing without your fans.
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WilliamPorygon
04/26/18 10:44:41 PM
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So winter isn't coming?
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voldothegr8
04/26/18 10:45:25 PM
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Not even May yet lmao
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DarthAragorn
04/26/18 10:48:35 PM
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Why is there always some sad white knight defending him in these topics

Grrm is a straight piece of shit at this point
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PMarth2002
04/26/18 10:48:52 PM
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I love what we got, but I'm over it. Its been too long, I've mostly lost interest. If it comes out, i'll read it. Otherwise, whatever.
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Vyrulisse
04/26/18 10:48:59 PM
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At this point he should just be honest and say he has no idea how to end it or that he just doesn't wanna do it anymore. Much better than stringing fans along with false hope.

Also I love how there's always people defending him in these topics. The apex of contrarians.
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CelestialVoices
04/26/18 10:52:08 PM
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EnragedSlith
04/26/18 10:56:35 PM
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Anyone who thinks hes actually going to finish this series, maybe even this next book, is incredibly gullible
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KainWind
04/26/18 10:59:11 PM
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Zora_Prince posted...
and Martin is turning 70 this year

That's it? The way people talk, he's already 90. He might actually finish the next book if he lives that long.
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Vyrulisse
04/26/18 11:01:51 PM
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KainWind posted...
Zora_Prince posted...
and Martin is turning 70 this year

That's it? The way people talk, he's already 90. He might actually finish the next book if he lives that long.

Might as well be 90, have you seen him lately?
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MuayThai85
04/26/18 11:01:56 PM
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KainWind posted...
Zora_Prince posted...
and Martin is turning 70 this year

That's it? The way people talk, he's already 90. He might actually finish the next book if he lives that long.


Have you not seen how fat he is?
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uwnim
04/26/18 11:02:30 PM
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KainWind posted...
Zora_Prince posted...
and Martin is turning 70 this year

That's it? The way people talk, he's already 90. He might actually finish the next book if he lives that long.

If he lives to be 90, we might possibly see the series finished. There'd still be no guarantee.
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MuayThai85
04/26/18 11:07:25 PM
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2 years - 2 years - 5 years - 6 years - 7+ years - At least another 7+ years.

So, if he manages to live to 90, he might by some miracle have it finished but even that is unlikely. Won't surprise me if we don't see WoW until 2020 at the absolute earliest.
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prince_leo
04/26/18 11:08:35 PM
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my grandma died this year and was looking forward to reading Winds of Winter
at least she misses this disappointment
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southcoast09
04/26/18 11:09:00 PM
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People still follow that? I gave up when it became politicized
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Complete_Idi0t
04/26/18 11:10:40 PM
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Deadpool_18
04/26/18 11:12:16 PM
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I hate this lazy hack so goddamn much.
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Deadpool_18
04/26/18 11:15:02 PM
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What has he even been working on that he believes is so loved by his fans?
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ChainedRedone
04/26/18 11:15:15 PM
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Lmao always nice to see buttmad Game of Thrones fans. Watch a real fucking show.
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MuayThai85
04/26/18 11:18:00 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
Lmao always nice to see buttmad Game of Thrones fans. Watch a real fucking show.


No one is talking about a show. How stupid can someone be not to be able to realize that?
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