Current Events > "Nazis being punched proves that jews should be exterminated" - UR

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Punctus_Pilot
04/23/18 10:53:51 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...

1. By that logic you can justify violence on anyone just by shouting racism

2. If you can't respond without violence then you have lost the debate by default


person 1: i believe jews are evil and should be removed
person 2: *punches person 1*
person 1: i won the debate

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He actually did
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Paper_Okami
04/23/18 10:54:20 AM
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lmao, wow. jeeze he just argues to argue.
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stone
04/23/18 10:55:45 AM
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Paper_Okami posted...
lmao, wow. jeeze he just argues to argue.

He's a contrarian, what else did you expect?
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Paper_Okami
04/23/18 10:56:49 AM
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stone posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
lmao, wow. jeeze he just argues to argue.

He's a contrarian, what else did you expect?


i mean i know, but the lengths he goes to, to argue are crazy.
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stone
04/23/18 10:58:57 AM
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Paper_Okami posted...
stone posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
lmao, wow. jeeze he just argues to argue.

He's a contrarian, what else did you expect?


i mean i know, but the lengths he goes to, to argue are crazy.

Especially when he argues for both sides in the same topic and keeps trying to argue after being called out on it. Rinse and repeat every topic he posts in.
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foreveraIone
04/23/18 10:59:40 AM
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I put him on ignore.

him and malfet
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Punctus_Pilot
04/23/18 11:15:29 AM
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He tries too hard
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eston
04/23/18 11:16:32 AM
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UR the type of dude to argue that everyone expects the Spanish Inquisition
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BLAKUboy
04/23/18 11:18:14 AM
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Punctus_Pilot posted...
He tries too hard

And yet people still feed him with topics like this.
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Punctus_Pilot
04/23/18 3:40:58 PM
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I'd love to see him try to argue with this
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Garioshi
04/23/18 3:42:57 PM
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If you resort to violence, it means you don't think your argument can beat your opponent's on its own merits.
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ledbowman
04/23/18 3:46:06 PM
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Nobody's defending Nazis though...
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Veggeta X
04/23/18 3:48:41 PM
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@UnfairRepresent
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Veggeta X
04/23/18 3:49:13 PM
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Goats posted...
Any other websight would ban his ass for that. He probably won't even get warned on gamefaqs.

Websight is my term. Please don't use it again.
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Anteaterking
04/23/18 3:50:14 PM
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Garioshi posted...
If you resort to violence, it means you don't think your argument can beat your opponent's on its own merits.


This would be more true if people "accepted defeat" in arguments. As is I can make a well constructed, fallacy free argument which defeats my opponent's, but he or she can keep arguing.
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Veggeta X
04/23/18 3:52:07 PM
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If a person tells me "Your kind deserves to burn in hell" and I punched him for it does that mean his argument is too strong?
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Solid Sonic
04/23/18 3:54:53 PM
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You know you could have just linked to the post in question.

Doing this makes it look like you just put words in his mouth.
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Muffinz0rz
04/23/18 3:55:30 PM
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TC use your main if you're gonna post something flaming like this
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Bishop9800
04/23/18 3:56:03 PM
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ledbowman posted...
Nobody's defending Nazis though...


That's the new excuse
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Punctus_Pilot
04/23/18 4:00:58 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
I guess I'm having a hard time understanding the context of the Topic Title in relation to the OP.

I'm also not sure I see where UR is wrong about violence in terms of 'punching a nazi.'

Unfair said that the Nazi was right, because the other person punched him. Not that both were wrong, but that in being punched, the Nazi's point was validated.
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Zeeak4444
04/23/18 4:01:13 PM
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eston posted...
UR the type of dude to argue that everyone expects the Spanish Inquisition


Lmao!
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Anteaterking
04/23/18 4:02:19 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Sure, but that doesn't mean you punch someone because they didn't understand you won the argument.


I'm not saying that. I'm saying that punching a Nazi has little to nothing to do with your ability to "beat them in a debate".

The mistake is treating arguments as formal debates. Ad hominem is a fallacy, but is fairly effective if you're arguing with someone and just need to win over a crowd.

If my friend got into an argument with someone and it ended with them getting punched and no one around cared, I don't think I would tell my friend he "won" the argument, no matter how logical his points were.
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Anteaterking
04/23/18 4:03:10 PM
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Punctus_Pilot posted...
Unfair said that the Nazi was right, because the other person punched him. Not that both were wrong, but that in being punched, the Nazi's point was validated.


He's saying the Nazi was right that he won the debate, not that the Nazi's position within the debate is correct.
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DrizztLink
04/23/18 4:03:22 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
eston posted...
UR the type of dude to argue that everyone expects the Spanish Inquisition


Lmao!

The best I've seen is "Unfair's tombstone will say 'Actually I'm alive.'"
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Ulyanyx
04/23/18 4:07:17 PM
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Garioshi posted...
If you resort to violence, it means you don't think your argument can beat your opponent's on its own merits.


violence is actually the first resort of primitive minds. if people can't comprehend what they're being told, or see no way to argue it the solution is violence; exterminate ideals or thoughts that do not align with your own.

the cycle of human societies.
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Panthera
04/23/18 4:07:33 PM
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That's a completely unfair representation of what happened
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pinky0926
04/23/18 4:09:20 PM
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I'm still trying to work out what the guy is about. Is he just trolling, or does he get a genuinely euphoric feeling of accomplishment by always sitting on the fence and never committing to a point of view?

Confusing.
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Veggeta X
04/23/18 4:12:03 PM
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He's just trying really hard to virch by saying he can respect anyone and everyone's view even if their view is an extreme Neo Nazism.
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COVxy
04/23/18 4:15:48 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
I'm still trying to work out what the guy is about. Is he just trolling, or does he get a genuinely euphoric feeling of accomplishment by always sitting on the fence and never committing to a point of view?


I'd always assumed it was a gimmick, but most gimmick posters get bored of themselves after that long. I mean, in the time that UR has been doing this, Proudclad has gone through like 3 gimmicks.
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Veggeta X
04/23/18 4:17:30 PM
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I'm 100% sure he doesn't hold true to his conviction.
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Mal_Fet
04/24/18 9:58:26 PM
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How has this topic not been modded for trolling yet
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spudger
04/24/18 9:59:15 PM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
Unfairrepresent being unfairrepresent

Unfairly represented?
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Doe
04/24/18 10:01:38 PM
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