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Mal_Fet
04/20/18 8:03:28 PM
#152:


creativerealms posted...
It's not a given because we just can't know.

Yes we can. Her voting history is basically Dick Cheney's.
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Kineth
04/20/18 8:04:53 PM
#153:


Genocet_10-325 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
This woman is whack can we please stop giving her attention holy shit.

This. Conservatives are literally the only people who still bring her up lmfao their obsession is pathetic

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NeonOctopus
04/20/18 8:05:20 PM
#154:


Literally every other week, I hear her make a new excuse for not winning instead of blaming herself and her campaign >_>

This is literally why Trump won
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darkphoenix181
04/20/18 8:05:31 PM
#155:


SageHarpuia posted...
Well it sounds like she's finally out of the denial phase.

Unless.... I'm missing something? There's not much context and she's known to spout bullshit with a little truth thrown in.


She is likely running again. Gotta stay in the minds of voters.
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chill02
04/20/18 8:07:40 PM
#156:


FrisbeeDude posted...
chill02 posted...
gmanthebest posted...
There is only one person to blame for Hillary not getting elected: Hillary.


Where did all those votes for trump come from? Did Clinton vote 62+ million times against herself?


She ran a disaster of a campaign (ignoring the Rust Belt)
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Zeus
04/20/18 9:43:22 PM
#157:


Although Hillary has descended to the level of self-satire, I *still* have a hard time believing she'd say something that stupid.

And I wouldn't be surprised if she was actively trying to prop up Trump. It just makes the whole thing even more embarrassing for her.
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Offworlder1
04/20/18 10:44:23 PM
#158:


This woman has her head so far up her own ass it isnt funny.
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FrisbeeDude
04/20/18 10:48:17 PM
#159:


chill02 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
chill02 posted...
gmanthebest posted...
There is only one person to blame for Hillary not getting elected: Hillary.


Where did all those votes for trump come from? Did Clinton vote 62+ million times against herself?


She ran a disaster of a campaign (ignoring the Rust Belt)


You didn't answer the question
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chill02
04/20/18 10:54:34 PM
#160:


FrisbeeDude posted...
chill02 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
chill02 posted...
gmanthebest posted...
There is only one person to blame for Hillary not getting elected: Hillary.


Where did all those votes for trump come from? Did Clinton vote 62+ million times against herself?


She ran a disaster of a campaign (ignoring the Rust Belt)


You didn't answer the question


They came from people who liked Trump more than they liked all the other options

For the record, I don't like Trump
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Zack_Attackv1
04/21/18 5:53:54 AM
#161:


"Don't tell me what they said." - Judge Judy
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shnangyboos
04/21/18 7:16:06 AM
#162:


You can really tell ol frisbee fucking hates white people.
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FrisbeeDude
04/21/18 7:29:29 AM
#163:


chill02 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
chill02 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
chill02 posted...
gmanthebest posted...
There is only one person to blame for Hillary not getting elected: Hillary.


Where did all those votes for trump come from? Did Clinton vote 62+ million times against herself?


She ran a disaster of a campaign (ignoring the Rust Belt)


You didn't answer the question


They came from people who liked Trump more than they liked all the other options

For the record, I don't like Trump


The overwhelming majority of those people, regardless of age, financial status or education, shared a similar trait...
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FrisbeeDude
04/21/18 7:30:01 AM
#164:


shnangyboos posted...
You can really tell ol frisbee fucking hates white people.


Holding people accountable for the decisions they make means I hate white people...lol
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shnangyboos
04/21/18 7:35:15 AM
#165:


You should just come out and say it. At least I could respect that.
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FrisbeeDude
04/21/18 7:39:34 AM
#166:


shnangyboos posted...
You should just come out and say it. At least I could respect that.


Ok
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darkjedilink
04/21/18 7:58:20 AM
#167:


Genocet_10-325 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
This woman is whack can we please stop giving her attention holy shit.

This. Conservatives are literally the only people who still bring her up lmfao their obsession is pathetic

Do a Google News search of 'Clinton,' and look at all the liberal news sites talking about her.
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darkjedilink
04/21/18 7:59:28 AM
#168:


FrisbeeDude posted...
shnangyboos posted...
You can really tell ol frisbee fucking hates white people.

Holding people accountable for the decisions they make means I hate white people...lol

You only hold white people accountable, though.

You literally blame white people for killing black people in self-defense.
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bobbysjoby
04/21/18 8:01:41 AM
#169:


America did everything in its power to get her in office, including Obama campaigning for her and the fbi keeping tabs on trump, as well as the media digging up any scandal they could find

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Tmk
04/21/18 8:10:10 AM
#170:


Hillary should run again against Trump.
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FrisbeeDude
04/21/18 8:10:55 AM
#171:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
shnangyboos posted...
You can really tell ol frisbee fucking hates white people.

Holding people accountable for the decisions they make means I hate white people...lol

You only hold white people accountable, though.

You literally blame white people for killing black people in self-defense.


Lmao
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The Great Muta 22
04/21/18 8:59:01 AM
#172:


Tmk posted...
Hillary should run again against Trump.


Conservatives are obsessed with this idea because they know Trump needs to run against a weak opponent again to win.

Too bad that Hillary is never running again
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WormBoi6
04/21/18 9:25:44 AM
#173:


She needs to be put in a home already, Jesus
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OpShaft
04/21/18 10:02:14 AM
#174:


She did say this

I really messed up," Clinton later told aides about that speech, according to the book. But Chozick claims that Clinton's use of the term reflected her longstanding beliefs.


Regarding her first time saying the deplorables. Maybe she takes some responsibility now.
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Kineth
04/21/18 7:48:26 PM
#175:


shnangyboos posted...
You can really tell ol frisbee fucking hates white people.


Sure, you can reach that conclusion if you think like a primitive ape.
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Tmk
04/21/18 7:52:26 PM
#176:


No it's pretty clear he hates white people.
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Kineth
04/21/18 7:53:43 PM
#177:


Tmk posted...
No it's pretty clear he hates white people.


That doesn't invalidate what I said.
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shnangyboos
04/21/18 11:42:31 PM
#178:


Kineth posted...
shnangyboos posted...
You can really tell ol frisbee fucking hates white people.


Sure, you can reach that conclusion if you think like a primitive ape.


It actually seems like a pretty logical conclusion based on what I've seen. How isn't it?
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Kineth
04/22/18 12:31:26 AM
#179:


shnangyboos posted...
Kineth posted...
shnangyboos posted...
You can really tell ol frisbee fucking hates white people.


Sure, you can reach that conclusion if you think like a primitive ape.


It actually seems like a pretty logical conclusion based on what I've seen. How isn't it?


If your observation leads you to believe that he hates a billion people with this us v. them bullshit, then reread my first post in this topic. I have people on this board say the same shit to me and it's insulting to intentionally misread what I said just to think "waaaaahhhh he hates white people! waaaahh."
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shnangyboos
04/22/18 1:13:09 AM
#180:


I don't think you hate white people, but you definitely seem biased.

Maybe hate is a strong word. It's not like I think he wants to murder all of us or shit like that. He clearly has negative shit he attributes, in general, to white people, though. Are you saying there's absolutely none of that, and that it's all just me not understanding what he's saying?
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Kineth
04/22/18 4:43:03 PM
#181:


See, now you lost track of the subject because we were talking about FrisbeeDude. Get the fuck out of here.
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shnangyboos
04/23/18 12:27:37 AM
#182:


So needlessly hostile. You were the one who brought yourself into it.
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Kineth
04/23/18 7:36:05 AM
#183:


Not needlessly hostile, but yes, I did bring myself into it. I wasn't the focal point of the argument though.

I'll give you a better response. It's silly to me to accuse me of being biased, but I'm curious what bias(es) you think I have. In regards to FrisbeeDude, it seems like he's against systemic racism and the power structure there-in. That said, given how some of the denizens of this board act, he's likely done giving courtesy and respect to those who feel no need to give it back themselves and has likely just taken up a provocative tone for his own benefit.

Anyway, considering how much of the power structure in this country is ran/controlled by white people and how, as MLK stated....

"First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."


...., the aim isn't to hate on white people, it's to raise awareness and, hopefully, gain more allies to the struggle. At least, that's my assumption. It honestly wouldn't make sense to me for any critic of racial injustice to be a hypocrite and be a rabid racist themselves.

It bewilders me, personally, how people can think that criticism of individual things/people or of organizations/groups means that the person must hate every single similar thing and it's honestly pretty fucking insulting whenever someone accuses me of hating white people or having some deep-seated mistrust of white people. We're fucking individuals. It's fucking ridiculous to pretend like all people in a group act a certain way and it's lazy analysis on top of it. I do have a bias against ignorance, that's for sure.

So, sorry I jumped the gun on going aggro on you. There's been way too many racist alt accounts on this board that make that accusation to me so when I saw it happening with FrisbeeDude, I started feeling some type of way and looked to defend him.
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FrisbeeDude
04/23/18 7:40:21 AM
#184:


shnangyboos posted...
I don't think you hate white people, but you definitely seem biased.

Maybe hate is a strong word. It's not like I think he wants to murder all of us or shit like that. He clearly has negative shit he attributes, in general, to white people, though. Are you saying there's absolutely none of that, and that it's all just me not understanding what he's saying?


Trump is not president if not for white people. Why does that trigger so many people?
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Kineth
04/23/18 7:45:47 AM
#185:


FrisbeeDude posted...
shnangyboos posted...
I don't think you hate white people, but you definitely seem biased.

Maybe hate is a strong word. It's not like I think he wants to murder all of us or shit like that. He clearly has negative shit he attributes, in general, to white people, though. Are you saying there's absolutely none of that, and that it's all just me not understanding what he's saying?


Trump is not president if not for white people. Why is that trigger so many people?


It's a factual statement, but surely you can see how that would rustle some jimmies.
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FrisbeeDude
04/23/18 7:58:42 AM
#186:


Kineth posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
shnangyboos posted...
I don't think you hate white people, but you definitely seem biased.

Maybe hate is a strong word. It's not like I think he wants to murder all of us or shit like that. He clearly has negative shit he attributes, in general, to white people, though. Are you saying there's absolutely none of that, and that it's all just me not understanding what he's saying?


Trump is not president if not for white people. Why is that trigger so many people?


It's a factual statement, but surely you can see how that would rustle some jimmies.


I'm not responsible for the poor fee fees of those who voted for trump or threw away their vote with some 3rd party protest. They literally subjected the rest of the country to what will more than likely go down as this country's worst president...AND MINORITIES TOLD THEM THIS SHIT WOULD HAPPEN

I couldn't give a damn less if jimmies are rustled. If we cant stop them from subjecting us to literal Donald trump, the least we can do is call them out for it
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Kineth
04/23/18 8:02:15 AM
#187:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Kineth posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
shnangyboos posted...
I don't think you hate white people, but you definitely seem biased.

Maybe hate is a strong word. It's not like I think he wants to murder all of us or shit like that. He clearly has negative shit he attributes, in general, to white people, though. Are you saying there's absolutely none of that, and that it's all just me not understanding what he's saying?


Trump is not president if not for white people. Why is that trigger so many people?


It's a factual statement, but surely you can see how that would rustle some jimmies.


I'm not responsible for the poor fee fees of those who voted for trump or threw away their vote with some 3rd party protest. They literally subjected the rest of the country to what will more than likely go down as this country's worst president...AND MINORITIES TOLD THEM THIS SHIT WOULD HAPPEN

I couldn't give a damn less if jimmies are rustled. If we cant stop them from subjecting us to literal Donald trump, the least we can do is call them out for it


Dude, you asked why it triggers people so much. I can't control whether you like the answer or not.
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FrisbeeDude
04/23/18 8:27:39 AM
#188:


Kineth posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Kineth posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
shnangyboos posted...
I don't think you hate white people, but you definitely seem biased.

Maybe hate is a strong word. It's not like I think he wants to murder all of us or shit like that. He clearly has negative shit he attributes, in general, to white people, though. Are you saying there's absolutely none of that, and that it's all just me not understanding what he's saying?


Trump is not president if not for white people. Why is that trigger so many people?


It's a factual statement, but surely you can see how that would rustle some jimmies.


I'm not responsible for the poor fee fees of those who voted for trump or threw away their vote with some 3rd party protest. They literally subjected the rest of the country to what will more than likely go down as this country's worst president...AND MINORITIES TOLD THEM THIS SHIT WOULD HAPPEN

I couldn't give a damn less if jimmies are rustled. If we cant stop them from subjecting us to literal Donald trump, the least we can do is call them out for it


Dude, you asked why it triggers people so much. I can't control whether you like the answer or not.


Oh, dont get it wrong. I agree it upsets people. That doesn't matter right now.
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FLUFFYGERM
04/23/18 9:10:30 AM
#190:


Kineth posted...
...., the aim isn't to hate on white people, it's to raise awareness and, hopefully, gain more allies to the struggle. At least, that's my assumption. It honestly wouldn't make sense to me for any critic of racial injustice to be a hypocrite and be a rabid racist themselves.


That doesn't make sense. The most anti-white people come up with bullshit for why it's not possible to be racist against whites. So of course they could simply say they aren't being rabid racists if they redefine racism that way.

And then you have things like this:

https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/

It's obvious that what many people mean when they say they want whites to be "allies" is just redistribution of earned wealth.

Kineth posted...
It's a factual statement, but surely you can see how that would rustle some jimmies.


It's also a factual statement to say that Obama wouldn't have been President if it wasn't for white people. It's a meaningless statement to say that Obama or Trump or X wouldn't have been President if it wasn't for white people, since there's a ton of white people in America. The only reason to bring that up is if you're trying to rile people up with race baiting.
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KingCrabCake
04/23/18 9:12:30 AM
#191:


Genocet_10-325 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
This woman is whack can we please stop giving her attention holy shit.

This. Conservatives are literally the only people who still bring her up lmfao their obsession is pathetic


....youre aware SHE BROUGHT THIS UP...right? Lmfao
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KingCrabCake
04/23/18 9:13:58 AM
#192:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Kineth posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Kineth posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
shnangyboos posted...
I don't think you hate white people, but you definitely seem biased.

Maybe hate is a strong word. It's not like I think he wants to murder all of us or shit like that. He clearly has negative shit he attributes, in general, to white people, though. Are you saying there's absolutely none of that, and that it's all just me not understanding what he's saying?


Trump is not president if not for white people. Why is that trigger so many people?


It's a factual statement, but surely you can see how that would rustle some jimmies.


I'm not responsible for the poor fee fees of those who voted for trump or threw away their vote with some 3rd party protest. They literally subjected the rest of the country to what will more than likely go down as this country's worst president...AND MINORITIES TOLD THEM THIS SHIT WOULD HAPPEN

I couldn't give a damn less if jimmies are rustled. If we cant stop them from subjecting us to literal Donald trump, the least we can do is call them out for it


Dude, you asked why it triggers people so much. I can't control whether you like the answer or not.


Oh, dont get it wrong. I agree it upsets people. That doesn't matter right now.


Two people who say the most questionable things about white people...are agreeing theyre not racist
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Kineth
04/23/18 9:54:29 AM
#193:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
That doesn't make sense. The most anti-white people come up with bullshit for why it's not possible to be racist against whites. So of course they could simply say they aren't being rabid racists if they redefine racism that way.


So here's the thing. What you're doing is attributing other people's words to me and FrisbeeDude. I could see how you'd reach the conclusion that he and/or I hate white people if that's how you view such discourse. I, however, don't and think it's pretty unfair to use one person's beliefs to as paint for a wide brush. As I also said in that post, we're all fucking individuals and I don't need to answer for someone else's words, especially if I never agreed with them in the first place. You need to reevaluate your thought process on this if you really believe what you said here. Often, I don't say statements as absolutes because, clearly, there are a lot of people who with varying thoughts and opinions that don't "fall in line", per se, and there are exceptions. Focusing tightly on the exceptions ignores the majority that don't operate like that.

It's also a factual statement to say that Obama wouldn't have been President if it wasn't for white people. It's a meaningless statement to say that Obama or Trump or X wouldn't have been President if it wasn't for white people, since there's a ton of white people in America. The only reason to bring that up is if you're trying to rile people up with race baiting.


Obama won because of record turnout across all races and having Asians and Hispanics lean much more Democrat than they had in the past. Trump's voting base was definitely much more white than Obama's voting base and the whitelash in response to Obama's presidency has been documented already, from the increased recruitment with white supremacist groups to Trump and Congress's mission to rollback all Obama era laws put into place. Obviously white people voted Democrat as well, but that's completely missing the point. If you think I said those statements to rile you up, you shouldn't be so sensitive.
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CarlGrimes
04/24/18 7:57:46 PM
#194:


FrisbeeDude posted...
If we cant stop them from subjecting us to literal Donald trump, the least we can do is call them out for it

Maybe you shouldn't have backed a piece of shit like hillary. Don't get mad when someone uses a monster to fight your monster and then wins.
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