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Twin3Turbo
04/17/18 9:39:08 AM
#51:


The Admiral posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
I haven't kept up with this story over the past few days. Was it ever explained why she singled these guys out when there were other people in there doing the exact same thing as them (not making a disturbance, taking up space without buying anything).


No, because we've never heard directly from the manager other than that she reported a "disturbance" to the police. And we likely never will, since I'm sure part of the payoff she's getting from Starbucks includes an agreement not to talk about this.

That's a key piece of information that's missing unfortunately then. The cops showed up and did their job, I have no beef there. My beef is that it ever even got to that point for seemingly no reason. By definition, if SB isn't applying the rules universally, then they are discriminating.
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Caution999
04/17/18 9:40:18 AM
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I just think this is going to set a precedent now. I'm sorry, but people need to realize that some people, do in fact, abuse the race card. And I'll bring it up right now: Barry Bonds. Back when he was feeling the pressure of the steroid scandal, he used the race card as a last resort to keep the media off him.

It's a shame, too. We all know, and agree, that real life racism occurs. And perhaps this was one of those times. Perhaps the manager racially profile these people. Until I see some concrete proof, it is just as likely, these guys used the race card as their last resort.

All I'm saying is keep an open mind.
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rexcrk
04/17/18 9:40:38 AM
#53:


mrduckbear posted...
FIRED as the company said that she no longer works for the company!!


Yup thats what fired means.
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Twin3Turbo
04/17/18 9:44:25 AM
#54:


Caution999 posted...
I just think this is going to set a precedent now. I'm sorry, but people need to realize that some people, do in fact, abuse the race card. And I'll bring it up right now: Barry Bonds. Back when he was feeling the pressure of the steroid scandal, he used the race card as a last resort to keep the media off him.

It's a shame, too. We all know, and agree, that real life racism occurs. And perhaps this was one of those times. Perhaps the manager racially profile these people. Until I see some concrete proof, it is just as likely, these guys used the race card as their last resort.

All I'm saying is keep an open mind.

What concrete proof are you looking for?

Lets say for a second that she did indeed racially profile these guys. What would be concrete proof enough to say for sure that that was the reason? Other than the words coming directly out of her mouth, which is unlikely to happen. Unless she admits it then there will always be some other reason you can try to point to.
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Genocet70
04/17/18 9:46:37 AM
#55:


Caution999 posted...
I just think this is going to set a precedent now. I'm sorry, but people need to realize that some people, do in fact, abuse the race card. And I'll bring it up right now: Barry Bonds. Back when he was feeling the pressure of the steroid scandal, he used the race card as a last resort to keep the media off him.

It's a shame, too. We all know, and agree, that real life racism occurs. And perhaps this was one of those times. Perhaps the manager racially profile these people. Until I see some concrete proof, it is just as likely, these guys used the race card as their last resort.

All I'm saying is keep an open mind.

Some people do abuse the race card. But it's rare. Just because a few people like Barry Bonds use it to their advantage doesn't mean racism isn't still a massive problem
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Caution999
04/17/18 9:48:50 AM
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Yeah, but as you can see, having the video out there, with a story of racism - you got the whole country in an uproar.

Starbucks may have just caved to the pressure regardless if the manager was right or wrong. It's a lot easier to replace a manager then it is to keep him and control the NATIONWIDE damage here.
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MrDrMan
04/17/18 9:49:59 AM
#57:


People saying this was anything but racism are dumb.

People sit in Starbucks all day everyday. I've never once heard of someone being kicked out like this. The manager also did NOT ask them to leave before calling police.

Stop making excuses and call it what it is.
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Dustin1280
04/17/18 9:53:28 AM
#58:


MrDrMan posted...
People saying this was anything but racism are dumb.

People sit in Starbucks all day everyday. I've never once heard of someone being kicked out like this. The manager also did NOT ask them to leave before calling police.

Stop making excuses and call it what it is.


This is the biggest part of the problem.

Had the manager asked them to leave, I wouldn't have had a problem with the story. But this never happened. So I agree this was because the manager was prejudice against black people and didn't even have the decency to engage them and ask them to buy something to begin with...
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Genocet70
04/17/18 9:54:07 AM
#59:


MrDrMan posted...
People saying this was anything but racism are dumb.

People sit in Starbucks all day everyday. I've never once heard of someone being kicked out like this. The manager also did NOT ask them to leave before calling police.

Stop making excuses and call it what it is.

That's why I said the people defending the manager are either racists or have never been to a Starbucks once in their life.
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Caution999
04/17/18 9:59:57 AM
#60:


MrDrMan posted...
People saying this was anything but racism are dumb.

People sit in Starbucks all day everyday. I've never once heard of someone being kicked out like this. The manager also did NOT ask them to leave before calling police.

Stop making excuses and call it what it is.


Even if it was, is it fair for the entire country to now black-ball this person? Is it fair that this person will now struggle to find a job for the rest of their life? When...we live in a world where murderers are rehabilitated and allowed back in society?
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Twin3Turbo
04/17/18 10:00:56 AM
#61:


Caution999 posted...
MrDrMan posted...
People saying this was anything but racism are dumb.

People sit in Starbucks all day everyday. I've never once heard of someone being kicked out like this. The manager also did NOT ask them to leave before calling police.

Stop making excuses and call it what it is.


Even if it was, is it fair for the entire country to now black-ball this person? Is it fair that this person will now struggle to find a job for the rest of their life? When...we live in a world where murderers are rehabilitated and allowed back in society?

If she indeed is indeed racist, then sorry I don't have much sympathy if people don't want to associate with her.
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Genocet70
04/17/18 10:01:31 AM
#62:


Caution999 posted...
MrDrMan posted...
People saying this was anything but racism are dumb.

People sit in Starbucks all day everyday. I've never once heard of someone being kicked out like this. The manager also did NOT ask them to leave before calling police.

Stop making excuses and call it what it is.


Even if it was, is it fair for the entire country to now black-ball this person? Is it fair that this person will now struggle to find a job for the rest of their life? When...we live in a world where murderers are rehabilitated and allowed back in society?

Uh, it's damn near impossible for anyone convicted of a felony to get a job without knowing somebody
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Caution999
04/17/18 10:01:43 AM
#63:


So being racist is worse than murder or rape?
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Genocet70
04/17/18 10:03:10 AM
#64:


Caution999 posted...
So being racist is worse than murder or rape?

Aaaaaaand I'm done responding to you. If that wasn't proof you're not a serious person I don't know what is. Jfc
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Hexenherz
04/17/18 10:03:35 AM
#65:


Trayvon posted...
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I agree she should be fired though


why? if a customer ain't paying why should they be taking up seats and be allowed to use their facilities?

aren't these rules in place so homeless people won't hang out in these establishments?

1 - It's a restaurant and they were waiting for their friend. It's common for people to wait at a restaurant without ordering anything until the whole party is there.
2 - Their friend showed up while they were being arrested which corroborated their story that they were... waiting for a friend, which is often what people do when they're about to meet up in a public place to socialize.
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Twin3Turbo
04/17/18 10:03:59 AM
#66:


Caution999 posted...
So being racist is worse than murder or rape?

Holy shit why are you sympathizing so hard with racists?
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Caution999
04/17/18 10:04:14 AM
#67:


For all we know, this manager was just having a bad day and if they are racist, they can certainly change their ways. It's not like it's something you can't learn and come back from.

Do you believe people deserve second chances?
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Genocet70
04/17/18 10:04:49 AM
#68:


Twin3Turbo posted...
Caution999 posted...
So being racist is worse than murder or rape?

Holy shit why are you sympathizing so hard with racists?

Stop. That post makes it obvious he's just trolling lmfao
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Genocet70
04/17/18 10:05:23 AM
#69:


Caution999 posted...
For all we know, this manager was just having a bad day and if they are racist, they can certainly change their ways. It's not like it's something you can't learn and come back from.

Do you believe people deserve second chances?

Fuck off.
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Hexenherz
04/17/18 10:05:40 AM
#70:


Caution999 posted...
For all we know, this manager was just having a bad day and if they are racist, they can certainly change their ways. It's not like it's something you can't learn and come back from.

Do you believe people deserve second chances?

A person is having a bad day so she... calls the police on two gentlemen who are doing literally nothing wrong?
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Twin3Turbo
04/17/18 10:05:47 AM
#71:


Caution999 posted...
For all we know, this manager was just having a bad day and if they are racist, they can certainly change their ways. It's not like it's something you can't learn and come back from.

Do you believe people deserve second chances?

Sure, if they stop being racist

Just don't be surprised if some people never want to associate with you even after the fact. Racists aren't the only people that this sort of thing applies to.
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Caution999
04/17/18 10:05:57 AM
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Oh so, Michael Vick is allowed to come back from murdering dogs, and this person can't.

Double standards.
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Dustin1280
04/17/18 10:06:27 AM
#73:


Hexenherz posted...
Caution999 posted...
For all we know, this manager was just having a bad day and if they are racist, they can certainly change their ways. It's not like it's something you can't learn and come back from.

Do you believe people deserve second chances?

A person is having a bad day so she... calls the police on two gentlemen who are doing literally nothing wrong?

I'm going to have to agree with hexenherz here...

a bad day =/= an excuse to call the police on two strangers w/o even asking them to buy something first, even more so in a setting like starbucks.
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Genocet70
04/17/18 10:06:49 AM
#74:


Caution999 posted...
Oh so, Michael Vick is allowed to come back from murdering dogs, and this person can't.

Double standards.

What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Twin3Turbo
04/17/18 10:06:52 AM
#75:


Genocet70 posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
Caution999 posted...
So being racist is worse than murder or rape?

Holy shit why are you sympathizing so hard with racists?

Stop. That post makes it obvious he's just trolling lmfao

You're right, I'm done responding to him
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Caution999
04/17/18 10:07:58 AM
#76:


Genocet70 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Oh so, Michael Vick is allowed to come back from murdering dogs, and this person can't.

Double standards.

What the fuck is wrong with you?


Exposing you for the fraud you are.
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Caution999
04/17/18 10:08:55 AM
#77:


Dustin1280 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Caution999 posted...
For all we know, this manager was just having a bad day and if they are racist, they can certainly change their ways. It's not like it's something you can't learn and come back from.

Do you believe people deserve second chances?

A person is having a bad day so she... calls the police on two gentlemen who are doing literally nothing wrong?

I'm going to have to agree with hexenherz here...

a bad day =/= an excuse to call the police on two strangers w/o even asking them to buy something first, even more so in a setting like starbucks.


I'm sure if a person is already angry - it wouldn't take much for them to call 911 and try to push their ego around.
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Dustin1280
04/17/18 10:10:21 AM
#78:


Caution999 posted...
I'm sure if a person is already angry - it wouldn't take much for them to call 911 and try to push their ego around.

Then they are a bad person who shouldn't be in a management position.
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Caution999
04/17/18 10:12:28 AM
#79:


Dustin1280 posted...
Caution999 posted...
I'm sure if a person is already angry - it wouldn't take much for them to call 911 and try to push their ego around.

Then they are a bad person who shouldn't be in a management position.


I certainly would agree, but I don't think it's fair that this person gets judged for the rest of their life based off this one day. Do you understand how long the rest of your life actually is?

We've all gotten angry before. We've all said things during arguments that we wish we could take back. We've all learned from our mistakes.

I think it's utterly ridiculous this person will be black-balled forever, even if they completely turn around everything.
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Genocet70
04/17/18 10:13:46 AM
#80:


Caution999 posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Caution999 posted...
For all we know, this manager was just having a bad day and if they are racist, they can certainly change their ways. It's not like it's something you can't learn and come back from.

Do you believe people deserve second chances?

A person is having a bad day so she... calls the police on two gentlemen who are doing literally nothing wrong?

I'm going to have to agree with hexenherz here...

a bad day =/= an excuse to call the police on two strangers w/o even asking them to buy something first, even more so in a setting like starbucks.


I'm sure if a person is already angry - it wouldn't take much for them to call 911 and try to push their ego around.

And how the fuck is that an excuse? If I work at a store and tell a customer to fuck off, and the customer went to the manager and complained, do you think my boss would be fine with it "because I'm having a bad day" ? No. I'd be fired. And rightfully so. Having a bad day is not an excuse for despicable behavior
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Caution999
04/17/18 10:18:18 AM
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It's not an excuse - you're exactly right. If that's the case, they should be fired.

But this is a nationwide story now. People are going to find out who this woman is. Is it fair that because, on one day, she lost her temper, she will struggle to find a job the rest of her fucking life?

This is the problem with the mobs that will condemn this person. If you're not capable of forgiveness or giving someone a second chance to redeem themselves, than this country is doomed.

My point is: This shouldn't be a nationwide story. Shouldn't even be a local story.
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Genocet70
04/17/18 10:20:23 AM
#82:


Caution999 posted...
It's not an excuse - you're exactly right. If that's the case, they should be fired.

But this is a nationwide story now. People are going to find out who this woman is. Is it fair that because, on one day, she lost her temper, she will struggle to find a job the rest of her fucking life?

This is the problem with the mobs that will condemn this person. If you're not capable of forgiveness or giving someone a second chance to redeem themselves, than this country is doomed.

Guess what? It wouldn't have happened if she wasn't a racist bitch and left the two guys who weren't hurting anybody alone. She dug her grave and now she has to lay in it
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The Admiral
04/17/18 10:26:19 AM
#83:


Dustin1280 posted...
MrDrMan posted...
People saying this was anything but racism are dumb.

People sit in Starbucks all day everyday. I've never once heard of someone being kicked out like this. The manager also did NOT ask them to leave before calling police.

Stop making excuses and call it what it is.


This is the biggest part of the problem.

Had the manager asked them to leave, I wouldn't have had a problem with the story. But this never happened. So I agree this was because the manager was prejudice against black people and didn't even have the decency to engage them and ask them to buy something to begin with...


The manager did tell them theyd need to leave if they didn't buy anything, and they blew her off. Thats when she called the cops.
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FrisbeeDude
04/17/18 10:28:06 AM
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Yeah, she f***ed up by telling a Black man, no. In this day and age that's considered Racism. The other day I got called a racist for not holding the door open for someone. This country is in a sad state.

This is what they really think about us
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Caution999
04/17/18 10:29:00 AM
#85:


Well, it was hard to be critical of Obama or dislike him without being called racist.

Just throwing that out there.
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Dragonblade01
04/17/18 10:29:33 AM
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I don't know why the manager chose to do what she did. Sure, I could assume that she made the decision because of their race, but I have no way of knowing what was actually going on in her head.

But the biggest problem is that it doesn't matter why she chose to do it. Even if she did, in fact, do it because she's racist and has a problem with black people, the only thing that matters is that's how people interpreted it. The moment the story made the news, everything that's happened from then on is just a PR move and nothing more.
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The Admiral
04/17/18 10:35:00 AM
#87:


Dragonblade01 posted...
I don't know why the manager chose to do what she did. Sure, I could assume that she made the decision because of their race, but I have no way of knowing what was actually going on in her head.

But the biggest problem is that it doesn't matter why she chose to do it. Even if she did, in fact, do it because she's racist and has a problem with black people, the only thing that matters is that's how people interpreted it. The moment the story made the news, everything that's happened from then on is just a PR move and nothing more.


Pretty much. It seems highly unlikely that a woman who manages a store in Philadelphia -- where black people are the largest racial group -- isn't constantly seeing black people come into the store all day long. I might be more generous in believing this was racism based on these limited facts if this was rural Kentucky, but it seems like a stretch for Philly.
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Genocet70
04/17/18 10:36:02 AM
#88:


The Admiral posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I don't know why the manager chose to do what she did. Sure, I could assume that she made the decision because of their race, but I have no way of knowing what was actually going on in her head.

But the biggest problem is that it doesn't matter why she chose to do it. Even if she did, in fact, do it because she's racist and has a problem with black people, the only thing that matters is that's how people interpreted it. The moment the story made the news, everything that's happened from then on is just a PR move and nothing more.


Pretty much. It seems highly unlikely that a woman who manages a store in Philadelphia -- where black people are the majority racial group -- isn't constantly seeing black people come into the store all day long. I might be more generous in believing this was racism based on these limited facts if this was Kentucky, but it seems like a stretch for Philly.

You do realize Philly has areas that are overwhelmingly white, right? Just because the city as a whole is majority black doesn't mean every neighborhood is.
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darkjedilink
04/17/18 10:37:47 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Yeah, she f***ed up by telling a Black man, no. In this day and age that's considered Racism. The other day I got called a racist for not holding the door open for someone. This country is in a sad state.

This is what they really think about us

In what way is that wrong?
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Twin3Turbo
04/17/18 10:42:25 AM
#90:


The Admiral posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I don't know why the manager chose to do what she did. Sure, I could assume that she made the decision because of their race, but I have no way of knowing what was actually going on in her head.

But the biggest problem is that it doesn't matter why she chose to do it. Even if she did, in fact, do it because she's racist and has a problem with black people, the only thing that matters is that's how people interpreted it. The moment the story made the news, everything that's happened from then on is just a PR move and nothing more.


Pretty much. It seems highly unlikely that a woman who manages a store in Philadelphia -- where black people are the largest racial group -- isn't constantly seeing black people come into the store all day long. I might be more generous in believing this was racism based on these limited facts if this was rural Kentucky, but it seems like a stretch for Philly.

Seeing black people everyday doesn't make you not racist or free of prejudice and profiling.
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Dustin1280
04/17/18 10:45:47 AM
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The Admiral posted...
The manager did tell them theyd need to leave if they didn't buy anything, and they blew her off. Thats when she called the cops.


I haven't seen anything that stated that, I was under the impression that she hadn't warned them to buy something or leave, she just called the cops. Even if she had, she should have warned them a few times and told them she will be calling the cops if they do not leave. Not just calling the cops and saying "take care of it."
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DadofStrawman
04/17/18 10:47:22 AM
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Has anyone seen my son today? People were saying he was hanging out with admiral and caution in this topic.
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FrisbeeDude
04/17/18 10:47:56 AM
#94:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Yeah, she f***ed up by telling a Black man, no. In this day and age that's considered Racism. The other day I got called a racist for not holding the door open for someone. This country is in a sad state.

This is what they really think about us

In what way is that wrong?


Lol
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/17/18 10:50:25 AM
#96:


Trayvon posted...
C_Pain posted...
I agree she should be fired though


why? if a customer ain't paying why should they be taking up seats and be allowed to use their facilities?

aren't these rules in place so homeless people won't hang out in these establishments?


It's a smart business move. Even if somebody just comes in to the use the wifi for work, eventually they might get hungry or thirsty. Just because they're not buying anything now doesn't mean they won't buy anything later.
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Twin3Turbo
04/17/18 11:01:52 AM
#97:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Trayvon posted...
C_Pain posted...
I agree she should be fired though


why? if a customer ain't paying why should they be taking up seats and be allowed to use their facilities?

aren't these rules in place so homeless people won't hang out in these establishments?


It's a smart business move. Even if somebody just comes in to the use the wifi for work, eventually they might get hungry or thirsty. Just because they're not buying anything now doesn't mean they won't buy anything later.

Yep. People buy stuff during their stay or just as they are leaving. I could understand enforcing such a rule if a Starbucks in particular had a heavy loitering problem or if it were busy and they needed seats for paying customers. Otherwise it makes more sense to let people linger from a business perspective because its likely they will buy something eventually, even if they didnt when they originally walked in
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The Admiral
04/17/18 11:05:07 AM
#98:


Conflict posted...
DadofStrawman posted...
Has anyone seen my son today? People were saying he was hanging out with admiral and caution in this topic.


lol


Imagine making a gimmick account based on a word you didn't understand.
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Xavius
04/17/18 11:36:07 AM
#99:


Genocet70 posted...
The Admiral posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
I don't know why the manager chose to do what she did. Sure, I could assume that she made the decision because of their race, but I have no way of knowing what was actually going on in her head.

But the biggest problem is that it doesn't matter why she chose to do it. Even if she did, in fact, do it because she's racist and has a problem with black people, the only thing that matters is that's how people interpreted it. The moment the story made the news, everything that's happened from then on is just a PR move and nothing more.


Pretty much. It seems highly unlikely that a woman who manages a store in Philadelphia -- where black people are the majority racial group -- isn't constantly seeing black people come into the store all day long. I might be more generous in believing this was racism based on these limited facts if this was Kentucky, but it seems like a stretch for Philly.

You do realize Philly has areas that are overwhelmingly white, right? Just because the city as a whole is majority black doesn't mean every neighborhood is.


If you were racist why would you work and live in a majority Black area? You can not be racist and be so. This is stupid and you're wrong. The Manager was an innocent person discriminated against.
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/17/18 11:37:18 AM
#100:


Xavius posted...
You can not be racist and be so.


Lol
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