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Zikten 04/07/18 1:17:52 PM #51: |
Paragon21XX posted...
r4X0r posted...Then charge him with participating in a felony that led to someone dying... he didn't kill anyone. I can almost understand the intent, but all it does is create a back door free pass for the cops to shoot people and have somebody else go to prison for 65 years. That is a corrupt law that should be banned ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 04/07/18 1:18:29 PM #52: |
Zikten posted...
Nomadic View posted...r4X0r posted...Sure, fuck him. He deserves time for sure. But not 65 years for murder, given he didn't kill anyone. This is the part that so many are glossing over: Im fine with that too. Its the offenders fault that there was a shootout to begin with. Again, if you dont like the rules dont play the game. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 04/07/18 1:19:15 PM #53: |
His life would be fucked if he got out after 25 years anyway
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Zikten 04/07/18 1:19:26 PM #54: |
Warrior_Man posted...
In fact, if you look at what he did and think to yourself "well shit, that could have been me", you had a fucked up childhood. Or Aspergers. I always did what my friends wanted but they never did crimes. I was lucky to meet good people. I could have been talked into crimes as a kid cause I didn't know how to say no ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lob_city_3 04/07/18 1:35:29 PM #55: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
lob_city_3 posted...Someones dead and this adult is laughing at a sentencing. You all can feel sorry for him but hes gonna be in prison where he belongs. But please keep bitching on CE that will help him out! Or hes a pos that doesnt care about what he did so he just laughed and smiled. But please keep defending this criminal. --- Seattle Seahawks ``~`` LA Clippers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 04/07/18 1:38:00 PM #56: |
lob_city_3 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...lob_city_3 posted...Someones dead and this adult is laughing at a sentencing. You all can feel sorry for him but hes gonna be in prison where he belongs. But please keep bitching on CE that will help him out! Its Vipa he defends every nonwhite criminal ever He also pretends to have me on ignore but posts in my topics...guess he got tired of being smoked @TheVipaGTS --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/07/18 1:40:17 PM #57: |
lob_city_3 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...lob_city_3 posted...Someones dead and this adult is laughing at a sentencing. You all can feel sorry for him but hes gonna be in prison where he belongs. But please keep bitching on CE that will help him out! yea i agree that could be it too. Also who posted #56? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stone 04/07/18 1:48:54 PM #58: |
Warrior_Man posted...
In fact, if you look at what he did and think to yourself "well shit, that could have been me", you had a fucked up childhood. This, seriously. Don't hang out with assholes and criminals and you might not end up in trouble. Also, what did he think would happen by turning down the plea bargain? That he'd actually be judged non-guilty? --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 04/07/18 1:59:50 PM #59: |
r4X0r posted...
Convicting people of murder who never killed anyone seems like a pretty obvious perversion of justice, but it's sadly common practice all across the country. If you commit a crime with another person and the cops kill that other person, you're responsible? I can't believe we are on the same page about this.. agree that punishment for his crimes is necessary but the idea of tangential responsibility is a dangerous precedent. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 04/07/18 2:03:13 PM #60: |
Sounds draconian. The kid is 15 and didn't kill anyone.
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:06:33 PM #61: |
yea he turned it down cause he didn't want to spend 25 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. he didn't realize how corrupt the justice system is
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:14:54 PM #62: |
and I just was reading about this on PotD in another topic and someone said he was the only minor. all his "friends" were in their 20's. so this was a case of a kid getting dragged along by adults into a crime. this a very corrupt and fucked up situation that should never happen in America. the justice system needs to change
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KingCrabCake 04/07/18 2:17:51 PM #63: |
Zikten posted...
and I just was reading about this on PotD in another topic and someone said he was the only minor. all his "friends" were in their 20's. so this was a case of a kid getting dragged along by adults into a crime. this a very corrupt and fucked up situation that should never happen in America. the justice system needs to change You are right...It does need change. He shouldnt have the chance to get paroled out --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:19:02 PM #64: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Zikten posted...and I just was reading about this on PotD in another topic and someone said he was the only minor. all his "friends" were in their 20's. so this was a case of a kid getting dragged along by adults into a crime. this a very corrupt and fucked up situation that should never happen in America. the justice system needs to change why are you so excited to see an innocent kid go to prison for doing nothing wrong? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 04/07/18 2:19:51 PM #65: |
Zikten posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...and I just was reading about this on PotD in another topic and someone said he was the only minor. all his "friends" were in their 20's. so this was a case of a kid getting dragged along by adults into a crime. this a very corrupt and fucked up situation that should never happen in America. the justice system needs to change Hes literally not innocent. Lmao --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Warrior_Man 04/07/18 2:20:27 PM #66: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Zikten posted...KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...and I just was reading about this on PotD in another topic and someone said he was the only minor. all his "friends" were in their 20's. so this was a case of a kid getting dragged along by adults into a crime. this a very corrupt and fucked up situation that should never happen in America. the justice system needs to change But the mean adults forced him to come break into houses --- In memory of Calvin Johnson Jr.'s touchdown catch to beat the Bears. 9-12-10 Terrible officiating to prevent a miracle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 04/07/18 2:23:22 PM #67: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Zikten posted...KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...and I just was reading about this on PotD in another topic and someone said he was the only minor. all his "friends" were in their 20's. so this was a case of a kid getting dragged along by adults into a crime. this a very corrupt and fucked up situation that should never happen in America. the justice system needs to change The punishment is way too excessive for a juvenile of this age. Even if he had killed that cop instead, I'd still be against it. I'm not a fan of punishing children like adults. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:23:46 PM #68: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Zikten posted...KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...and I just was reading about this on PotD in another topic and someone said he was the only minor. all his "friends" were in their 20's. so this was a case of a kid getting dragged along by adults into a crime. this a very corrupt and fucked up situation that should never happen in America. the justice system needs to change he was 15 and a bunch of 20 somethings forced him to help them on a robbery but he just stood there and never did anything and then got blamed. he probably didn't even have a gun ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 04/07/18 2:24:26 PM #69: |
Warrior_Man posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...and I just was reading about this on PotD in another topic and someone said he was the only minor. all his "friends" were in their 20's. so this was a case of a kid getting dragged along by adults into a crime. this a very corrupt and fucked up situation that should never happen in America. the justice system needs to change He was a juvenile under the influence of adult men. That should have been a mitigating factor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stone 04/07/18 2:24:34 PM #70: |
Ammonitida posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...and I just was reading about this on PotD in another topic and someone said he was the only minor. all his "friends" were in their 20's. so this was a case of a kid getting dragged along by adults into a crime. this a very corrupt and fucked up situation that should never happen in America. the justice system needs to change He got tried as an adult though, so he gets the punishment an adult would have gotten for the same crime. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 04/07/18 2:25:01 PM #71: |
Ammonitida posted...
Well thats just dumb Zikten posted... KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...and I just was reading about this on PotD in another topic and someone said he was the only minor. all his "friends" were in their 20's. so this was a case of a kid getting dragged along by adults into a crime. this a very corrupt and fucked up situation that should never happen in America. the justice system needs to change Oh youre baiting...my bad fam --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:25:53 PM #72: |
not baiting. I'm being serious. this is fucked up and he should be set free. he did nothing wrong. he's a victim of the 20 somethings, and of the corrupt justice system. do you realize how many innocent people we have in prison?
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KingCrabCake 04/07/18 2:27:06 PM #73: |
A week ago 15 yr olds were praised for being so "smart and mature" for walking out of class for their gun movement...
Now 15 yr olds are too dumb to say "no" when asked if they wanna go commit a bunch of felonies Man time flies --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 04/07/18 2:27:26 PM #74: |
Zikten posted...
not baiting. I'm being serious. this is fucked up and he should be set free. he did nothing wrong. he's a victim of the 20 somethings, and of the corrupt justice system. do you realize how many innocent people we have in prison? Lmfao Tagging --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Warrior_Man 04/07/18 2:27:41 PM #75: |
Lmao he did nothing wrong and neither did any 15 year old kid pulled into a gang by older kids. Fucking laughable at the apologism. Almost as laughable as being told that "you might have done the same thing at 15"
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:29:23 PM #76: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Zikten posted...not baiting. I'm being serious. this is fucked up and he should be set free. he did nothing wrong. he's a victim of the 20 somethings, and of the corrupt justice system. do you realize how many innocent people we have in prison? https://www.innocenceproject.org/ there are thousands of innocent people in US prisons. many of them are on death row for murders they didn't do. or rapes. prosecutors and judges like to do convictions to further their careers and many times they bury evidence that proves innocence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Warrior_Man 04/07/18 2:30:10 PM #77: |
Zikten posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...not baiting. I'm being serious. this is fucked up and he should be set free. he did nothing wrong. he's a victim of the 20 somethings, and of the corrupt justice system. do you realize how many innocent people we have in prison? Good thing there is no evidence of any corruption here. Just the usual "commit a felony and someone dies and get charged with their death" just like every other time someone commits a felony and someone dies. --- In memory of Calvin Johnson Jr.'s touchdown catch to beat the Bears. 9-12-10 Terrible officiating to prevent a miracle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:31:15 PM #78: |
Warrior_Man posted...
Zikten posted...KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...not baiting. I'm being serious. this is fucked up and he should be set free. he did nothing wrong. he's a victim of the 20 somethings, and of the corrupt justice system. do you realize how many innocent people we have in prison? that's a fucked up law and is evil and corrupt he was a child that got forced into a robbery and then cops arrested him instead of saving him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 04/07/18 2:32:48 PM #79: |
stone posted...
Ammonitida posted...KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...and I just was reading about this on PotD in another topic and someone said he was the only minor. all his "friends" were in their 20's. so this was a case of a kid getting dragged along by adults into a crime. this a very corrupt and fucked up situation that should never happen in America. the justice system needs to change He should not have been tried as an adult given the circumstances. He did not pull the trigger and was under the influence of actual adults. That's usually mitigating. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wrongfully-convicted-child-s-murder-confession-tests-compensation-law-n742086 The boy, Tyler Edmonds (13 at the time), was first convicted of a murder after, according to the prosecution, his adult sister coerced him to shoot her husband. It was a gross miscarriage of justice, and fortunately the boy's conviction was overturned. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 04/07/18 2:33:28 PM #80: |
KingCrabCake posted...
A week ago 15 yr olds were praised for being so "smart and mature" for walking out of class for their gun movement... That wasn't me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WalkingLobsters 04/07/18 2:36:33 PM #81: |
he shot at cops
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Cal12 04/07/18 2:36:47 PM #82: |
Zikten posted...
not baiting. I'm being serious. this is fucked up and he should be set free. he did nothing wrong. he's a victim of the 20 somethings, and of the corrupt justice system. do you realize how many innocent people we have in prison? Hes not a victim of anything but his own stupidity. I knew right and wrong at 15 and wouldnt have been stupid enough to take part in burglaries. He certainly shouldnt be set free. His sentence is very extreme though but his behavior shows he probably deserves it. The only issue I have here is how is his friend shooting at the cop resulting in the cop firing back and killing said friend a murder charge for them? That really is a miscarriage of justice, piece of garbage or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:37:58 PM #83: |
WalkingLobsters posted...
he shot at cops the article says the dead guy shot at the cops, not this kid ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ludwig Von 2 04/07/18 2:38:28 PM #84: |
You guys are too exteme, on both sides. Is this guy completely innocent? No, he participated in a robbery. Does he deserve to be locked up for 65 years? I dont think so. Thats way too much.
That rule about participating in a felony that gets someone killed. I can see where its coming from but in this case I dont see it applying. His friend shot and the cop shot back. This guy had nothing to do with that. Sure hes there and should be punished for robbery, but for murder?! Give this guy some time for his crimes, but not 65 years. --- My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:38:41 PM #85: |
Cal12 posted...
. I knew right and wrong at 15 and wouldnt have been stupid enough to take part in burglaries maybe if a bunch of 25 year olds convinced you, you might have. you probably didn't talk to 25 year olds when you were 15 so you were lucky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 04/07/18 2:42:50 PM #86: |
Zikten posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...not baiting. I'm being serious. this is fucked up and he should be set free. he did nothing wrong. he's a victim of the 20 somethings, and of the corrupt justice system. do you realize how many innocent people we have in prison? Cool. This piece of shit isnt innocent. --- I have a gamefaqs following. Watch them flock to my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:44:17 PM #87: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Zikten posted...KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...not baiting. I'm being serious. this is fucked up and he should be set free. he did nothing wrong. he's a victim of the 20 somethings, and of the corrupt justice system. do you realize how many innocent people we have in prison? why? what crime did he commit? he was a child that was just standing there when the robbery happened. and a bunch of 25 years old forced him to be there. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/07/18 2:44:33 PM #88: |
r4X0r posted...
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, so let's clarify. There were 5 kids. How many were shooting at cops? It says 'several.' I don't buy that this kid was the ONLY ONE not shooting at cops, and I doubt the jury bought that, either. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:45:29 PM #89: |
darkjedilink posted...
r4X0r posted...Maybe I'm reading this wrong, so let's clarify. it was only 1 kid. 4 25 year olds and 1 15 year old that was dragged along ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stone 04/07/18 2:45:42 PM #90: |
Zikten posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...KingCrabCake posted...Zikten posted...not baiting. I'm being serious. this is fucked up and he should be set free. he did nothing wrong. he's a victim of the 20 somethings, and of the corrupt justice system. do you realize how many innocent people we have in prison? Where does it say he was forced? 'cause I don't see any of it in the article. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/07/18 2:45:49 PM #91: |
Zikten posted...
WalkingLobsters posted...he shot at cops The article says 'several' in the group shot at cops, including the dead guy. I don't buy the idea that this kid wasn't. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:46:19 PM #92: |
stone posted...
Where does it say he was forced? 'cause I don't see any of it in the article. usually when a kid is found at a crime scene they treat the kid as innocent. would you arrest a 10 year old who was in a house while someone killed someone? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/07/18 2:46:24 PM #93: |
Zikten posted...
darkjedilink posted...r4X0r posted...Maybe I'm reading this wrong, so let's clarify. My point stands. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Warrior_Man 04/07/18 2:46:46 PM #94: |
Zikten posted...
stone posted...Where does it say he was forced? 'cause I don't see any of it in the article. I would if he had broken in to the house... --- In memory of Calvin Johnson Jr.'s touchdown catch to beat the Bears. 9-12-10 Terrible officiating to prevent a miracle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/07/18 2:47:31 PM #95: |
Warrior_Man posted...
Zikten posted...stone posted...Where does it say he was forced? 'cause I don't see any of it in the article. so if a 10 year old snuck into an abandoned house to play and at the same time, someone killed someone, you would arrest the 10 year old? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/07/18 2:47:32 PM #96: |
Zikten posted...
stone posted...Where does it say he was forced? 'cause I don't see any of it in the article. That doesn't mean he was forced. Literally nothing suggests he was anything more than a totally willing accomplice Thus his conviction. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnragedSlith 04/07/18 2:49:05 PM #97: |
So, in reading the article:
- part of a group who commotted robbery - one of the group shot at police and was killed for it - guy was charged for the death of his friend as an accomplice to the events that led to his death Im not surprised he avoided the plea deal. The sentencing seems excessive and possibly racially motivated, at least, the legislation that made it possible. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stone 04/07/18 2:50:00 PM #98: |
Zikten posted...
Warrior_Man posted...Zikten posted...stone posted...Where does it say he was forced? 'cause I don't see any of it in the article. Except in this case, he wasn't 10. He didn't sneak into an abandoned house. He didn't play in said house. Stop coming up with "what if's" scenarios and deal with the fact that he's guilty of helping commit a crime and got judged as such. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ludwig Von 2 04/07/18 2:50:04 PM #99: |
Zikten posted...
Warrior_Man posted...Zikten posted...stone posted...Where does it say he was forced? 'cause I don't see any of it in the article. My son plays in abandoned houses all the time. Are you calling my son a murderer?! --- My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/07/18 2:50:15 PM #100: |
EnragedSlith posted...
So, in reading the article: Several in the group shot at police, this kid likely one of them. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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