Current Events > people who purchase meat and/or dairy - how do you justify it?

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DrizztLink
03/26/18 7:21:23 PM
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APM
03/26/18 7:21:34 PM
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Anyone here look up halal slaughter yet? They go isis on animals
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gbpxl
03/26/18 7:22:37 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
gbpxl posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
gbpxl posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
Show me your sources about a plant-based diet being better for people. Actual scientific studies and papers, not popsci articles from something called "VeganLife" or "Justice4Animals."

That said, I do feel bad for the animals. I can't afford free-range and organic food though.

A couple documentaries I watched talked about it. What the Health was one of them. there was another one called Forks Over Knives, and I think they talk about it in that one too.

Studies and papers, buddy, not popsci documentaries.

What difference does it make if it's on paper or coming out of someone's mouth? If the facts are the same, why does the method of delivery matter?

I don't feel like doing you a service you could easily do yourself. Just Google "benefits of a vegan diet" it can't be that hard.

If you want to convince people, you have to provide the evidence.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/149636.php
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JoeyFNK
03/26/18 7:23:14 PM
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How do you justify requiring an answer to this dumb question?
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gbpxl
03/26/18 7:23:49 PM
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BewmHedshot posted...
They are delicious and we evolved to eat them.

Actually that is debatable.

https://rosemarycottageclinic.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/did-cooked-tubers-drive-human-evolution/
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Kombucha
03/26/18 7:24:38 PM
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In highscool I had to crack open a pig fetus skull in Biology it was pretty gnarly. People working in slaughterhouses are truly doing gods work for delicious bacon, I don't have the stomach to do that every day.
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gbpxl
03/26/18 7:24:41 PM
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Loghain posted...
It's delicious and good for you in moderation

Like smoking.
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MC_BatCommander
03/26/18 7:24:59 PM
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gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
It's delicious and good for you in moderation

Like smoking.


lol
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CasualGuy
03/26/18 7:26:12 PM
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cheese, milk, and eggs taste fucking goooooood
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Dragonblade01
03/26/18 7:26:50 PM
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Why are vegans always so self-righteous? The fact that you can maintain a well-balanced diet is always presented like they only realized it afterwords.
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Loghain
03/26/18 7:27:35 PM
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gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
It's delicious and good for you in moderation

Like smoking.

Smoking has zero health benefits
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DarkFists
03/26/18 7:28:14 PM
#62:


gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
It's delicious and good for you in moderation

Like smoking.


You realize that you lost all credibility now by doing that, right? Now nobody is gonna take you seriously.
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gbpxl
03/26/18 7:28:45 PM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
Why are vegans always so self-righteous? The fact that you can maintain a well-balanced diet is always presented like they only realized it afterwords.

One can have a well-balanced diet and live a long healthy life, but it still contributes to the murder of defenseless animals.
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gbpxl
03/26/18 7:29:08 PM
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Loghain posted...
gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
It's delicious and good for you in moderation

Like smoking.

Smoking has zero health benefits

Stress relief.
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Loghain
03/26/18 7:30:14 PM
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gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
It's delicious and good for you in moderation

Like smoking.

Smoking has zero health benefits

Stress relief.

Proof?
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Dragonblade01
03/26/18 7:31:59 PM
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gbpxl posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Why are vegans always so self-righteous? The fact that you can maintain a well-balanced diet is always presented like they only realized it afterwords.

One can have a well-balanced diet and live a long healthy life, but it still contributes to the murder of defenseless animals.

If someone was truly concerned about the treatment of animals and wanted to do something about it, "becoming a vegan" is probably the most empty gesture they could make.
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nemu
03/26/18 7:32:49 PM
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If someone spends every moment of their life worrying about the suffering of others, they will never have a life. There should be reform so the animals are being treated with the best possible care, but that's about as far as my concern goes.
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gbpxl
03/26/18 7:32:50 PM
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Loghain posted...
gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
It's delicious and good for you in moderation

Like smoking.

Smoking has zero health benefits

Stress relief.

Proof?

https://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/smoking-to-relieve-tension-or-improve-mood
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gbpxl
03/26/18 7:35:15 PM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
gbpxl posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Why are vegans always so self-righteous? The fact that you can maintain a well-balanced diet is always presented like they only realized it afterwords.

One can have a well-balanced diet and live a long healthy life, but it still contributes to the murder of defenseless animals.

If someone was truly concerned about the treatment of animals and wanted to do something about it, "becoming a vegan" is probably the most empty gesture they could make.

Money drives everything. Take money away from the slaughterhouse, and the abuse stops. Take money away from politicians, and the pandering to special interest groups stop. Take money away from Nike and the child sweat shops stop. Think about it.
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Volkswagen_Bros
03/26/18 7:35:37 PM
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gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
It's delicious and good for you in moderation

Like smoking.

Smoking has zero health benefits

Stress relief.

Imaging resorting to a carcinogen to relieve stress and justifying it.

TC sounds like a parody at this point.
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gbpxl
03/26/18 7:36:57 PM
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nemu posted...
If someone spends every moment of their life worrying about the suffering of others, they will never have a life. There should be reform so the animals are being treated with the best possible care, but that's about as far as my concern goes.

Reform can only come from a boycott. You can't put a government agent in every slaughterhouse, monitoring everyone in there at all times to make sure they're not beating the shit out of the pigs and stomping on chickens.
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gbpxl
03/26/18 7:40:27 PM
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Volkswagen_Bros posted...
gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
It's delicious and good for you in moderation

Like smoking.

Smoking has zero health benefits

Stress relief.

Imaging resorting to a carcinogen to relieve stress and justifying it.

TC sounds like a parody at this point.

I'm "justifying" cigarettes in the same way I'm "justifying" meat. I'm pointing out how they are similar.
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Delta_F14
03/26/18 7:41:57 PM
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How do you justify the systematic slaughter of plants TC?
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Vikilla4V
03/26/18 7:43:49 PM
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veganism is a privilege for upper class white people
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gbpxl
03/26/18 7:44:54 PM
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Delta_F14 posted...
How do you justify the systematic slaughter of plants TC?

There's no justification needed. There's a reason you'd feel worse about kicking a golden retriever than you would, stomping on a dandelion.
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gbpxl
03/26/18 7:45:20 PM
#76:


Vikilla4V posted...
veganism is a privilege for upper class white people

Care to explain?
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Dragonblade01
03/26/18 7:47:07 PM
#77:


gbpxl posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
gbpxl posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Why are vegans always so self-righteous? The fact that you can maintain a well-balanced diet is always presented like they only realized it afterwords.

One can have a well-balanced diet and live a long healthy life, but it still contributes to the murder of defenseless animals.

If someone was truly concerned about the treatment of animals and wanted to do something about it, "becoming a vegan" is probably the most empty gesture they could make.

Money drives everything. Take money away from the slaughterhouse, and the abuse stops. Take money away from politicians, and the pandering to special interest groups stop. Take money away from Nike and the child sweat shops stop. Think about it.

And what do you suppose happens when money starts going to the alternatives? Not to mention that you simply aren't going to convince every person to adopt your lifestyle. You can't get rid of all the cruelty in the world. You can only mitigate it. And someone going vegan simply isn't the way to do it. When it comes to saving animals, going vegan only makes the individual feel better about their misguided, guilty conscience.
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gbpxl
03/26/18 7:55:40 PM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
gbpxl posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
gbpxl posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Why are vegans always so self-righteous? The fact that you can maintain a well-balanced diet is always presented like they only realized it afterwords.

One can have a well-balanced diet and live a long healthy life, but it still contributes to the murder of defenseless animals.

If someone was truly concerned about the treatment of animals and wanted to do something about it, "becoming a vegan" is probably the most empty gesture they could make.

Money drives everything. Take money away from the slaughterhouse, and the abuse stops. Take money away from politicians, and the pandering to special interest groups stop. Take money away from Nike and the child sweat shops stop. Think about it.

And what do you suppose happens when money starts going to the alternatives? Not to mention that you simply aren't going to convince every person to adopt your lifestyle. You can't get rid of all the cruelty in the world. You can only mitigate it. And someone going vegan simply isn't the way to do it. When it comes to saving animals, going vegan only makes the individual feel better about their misguided, guilty conscience.

When it goes to the alternatives? I don't know, it's pretty hard to abuse a soybean.
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Big_Nabendu
03/26/18 10:21:23 PM
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Humans have dominion over animals
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thronedfire2
03/26/18 10:25:13 PM
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gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
gbpxl posted...
Loghain posted...
It's delicious and good for you in moderation

Like smoking.

Smoking has zero health benefits

Stress relief.


yeah but you only get stressed because of nicotine cravings
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EverDownward
03/26/18 11:12:58 PM
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Drinking reduced fat milk right now, boys
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prince_leo
03/26/18 11:15:57 PM
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I don't really justify it, I hate that I eat them and can't wait for the day lab-grown products are commercially viable
it's just that I'm weak and meat tastes delciious
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Zeus
03/26/18 11:16:57 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
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Kind of impressive in a weird way.
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marc55
03/26/18 11:18:01 PM
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gbpxl posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
It's already dead and packaged when I buy it

Me not eating steak this week isn't gonna save a cow

It's dead and packaged because people like you buy it.

nope

they dont kill on site

isnt that fresh
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SuperVegito2487
03/26/18 11:29:19 PM
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prince_leo posted...
I don't really justify it, I hate that I eat them and can't wait for the day lab-grown products are commercially viable
it's just that I'm weak and meat tastes delciious


I wouldnt mind eating cloned meat or the like..

To me its not because im weak... but because i like living.

I recall once where i only got vegetables for dinner... i had to raid the fridge hours later because i was starting to get really ill.

Its like trying to live on Chips... for me thats not possible.
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SusanGreenEyes
03/26/18 11:30:41 PM
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This preachy bullshit is the reason people don't like talking to vegans.
Nobody is forcing you to eat meat.
Stop it.
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GoriIIa
03/26/18 11:39:30 PM
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i wish i could go vegan
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chaosinuyasha
03/27/18 12:20:51 AM
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gbpxl posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
Show me your sources about a plant-based diet being better for people. Actual scientific studies and papers, not popsci articles from something called "VeganLife" or "Justice4Animals."

That said, I do feel bad for the animals. I can't afford free-range and organic food though.

A couple documentaries I watched talked about it. What the Health was one of them. there was another one called Forks Over Knives, and I think they talk about it in that one too.

One of those "life coach" doctors I saw once told me about that forks over knives crap. Never bothered to watch it, or go see him again. I have since lost like 40 pounds though by cutting out processed food like pre-made chicken nuggets, and fries and burgers and making my own at home, also saved over like 100 bucks a month too. So yea you can eat healthy by eating meat, just make your own stuff at home instead of buying the processed junk.
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LinkPizza
03/27/18 12:24:20 AM
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Cheese is my favorite food. I'd kill a person of they'd try to take my cheese away.
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rodu_jr
03/27/18 12:32:57 AM
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That cow I had for dinner the other night was vegetarian too, where did it get him?
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Resolution
03/27/18 12:35:00 AM
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This guy really just analogized eating meat with smoking cigarettes. There's really no limit to the kind of dumb shit you'll read on this board
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TheCyborgNinja
03/27/18 12:41:47 AM
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Joke topic, but I just don't really care. I think there should be more stringent laws/enforcement regarding treating everything respectfully until it dies, but beyond that, whatever.

What's funny is that if everybody decided to be a vegan, there'd be two choices: mass starvation or increased land development to grow enough crops to sustain everybody.
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Dyinglegacy
03/27/18 12:42:27 AM
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By eating it.
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LinkPizza
03/27/18 12:50:07 AM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
Joke topic, but I just don't really care. I think there should be more stringent laws/enforcement regarding treating everything respectfully until it dies, but beyond that, whatever.

What's funny is that if everybody decided to be a vegan, there'd be two choices: mass starvation or increased land development to grow enough crops to sustain everybody.

We have to take out those animals trying to eat all our food that we grew. Haha.
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OwlRammer
03/27/18 12:52:56 AM
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gbpxl posted...
Animal product contains a lot of fat, cholesterol, and has been shown to increase the chances of colon cancer.

it has also shown to increase the tastyness levels of food
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EastKingStar
03/27/18 12:56:53 AM
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Animals were put here to serve us. Do you know what cows and pigs do in the wild? Same thing they do in captivity. They stand around and eat grass and go moo. Horses were built for transportation. Dogs were made for companionship. They all serve their purpose, just as plants do. You're killing life when you eat a plant the same way we do when we eat an animal. It's the circle of life. Get the fuck over it.
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LinkPizza
03/27/18 1:00:17 AM
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EastKingStar posted...
Animals were put here to serve us. Do you know what cows and pigs do in the wild? Same thing they do in captivity. They stand around and eat grass and go moo. Horses were built for transportation. Dogs were made for companionship. They all serve their purpose, just as plants do. You're killing life when you eat a plant the same way we do when we eat an animal. It's the circle of life. Get the fuck over it.

I always thought about that. You are killing plants to eat them. Fruits and veggies are alive too, technically. Anyway, it's true that most animals do the same thing in the wild. And most of them are meaning, too.
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GalaxyEmperor
03/27/18 1:01:25 AM
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I'm hungry.
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southcoast09
03/27/18 1:01:30 AM
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Because its already dead. Why waste it? Besides, cows need to be milked if they dont have calves.
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Sega9599
03/27/18 3:57:31 AM
#100:


rodu_jr posted...
That cow I had for dinner the other night was vegetarian too, where did it get him?


Lol
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