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Bass_X0
03/24/18 5:41:55 PM
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http://atopthefourthwall.com/i-have-left-channel-awesome/

It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that I have left Channel Awesome.

This was not a decision made lightly, but it has been a decision that has been building for some time. Because this is my shows tenth anniversary, I think its important to talk about my history with the site and why I have been so reluctant to depart despite the growing number of difficulties in working with it and grievances made by other former producers.

I began Atop the Fourth Wall as text reviews because as far as I knew, that was the way to do recaps and reviews of media particularly BAD media. If you didnt have your own TV show, the only way to get your opinions and quips about awful movies, television shows, and indeed comic books was to write out lengthy essays about them. Then one day on a forum I discovered the Nostalgia Critic. I learned of this fantastic place called ThatGuyWithTheGlasses where others did their own videos about the media they hated or enjoyed, with videos uploaded to Youtube, Revver, and eventually Blip. There was just tons and tons of content waiting to be enjoyed by an eager, hungry audience.

Inspired by this (in particular the Nostalgia Critic videos), I set about turning my rantings about comic books into videos. At the time, ThatGuyWithTheGlasses (TGWTG) had an open submission policy if you wanted to join. Within only a few days, I was accepted and became a part of a larger family. As soon as my videos went up (alongside Phelous and Ed Glasers Press Start Adventures cartoon), my views increased in massive numbers. I suddenly had an audience one that grew larger and larger over time. The videos were popular enough within a year or so that I was able to quit my job at Barnes and Noble and go full time in making them. Being a video producer has been my vocation and career ever since.

I owe my success to being picked up on TGWTG. Sure, talent is one part of it people wouldnt still be watching the show if there wasnt SOMETHING about it that they enjoyed, but in a world with hundreds if not thousands of channels and shows vying for attention from the public, getting that exposure got me a foot in the door that, it is entirely likely, I never would have enjoyed otherwise. I have been incredibly privileged and lucky since then to have this opportunity.

Furthermore, joining TGWTG allowed me to meet a plethora of friendly, smart, creative individuals whom I am still proud to call my friends. Despite the problems that have occurred in making them, I still enjoy all of the anniversary movies as their own works and just for the opportunity they gave me on an annual basis to meet with these people I am still in awe of. They have expanded my interests and my own skills simply by the use of their own helping me make videos that I hope are not only entertaining but informative about the comic industry and my other passions. In essence, if I have reached wondrous heights, it is only because I stand on the shoulders of giants. I have met incredible fans with wonderful stories of their own, been told that our videos helped them when it seemed like nothing else could. I met my wife thanks to being a part of TGWTG and that is most especially something to be happy about.

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Bass_X0
03/24/18 5:42:04 PM
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And that has been a thing that has nagged at me over the last several years. In case you are not aware, there has been growing discontentment towards the leadership of Channel Awesome and its CEO Mike Michaud. It is not unfounded. The full list of grievances is still being compiled into a Google Doc for easier reference (and Ill likely edit this with a link to it when it becomes available), but if you would like a summary abusive behavior, lies to the contributors, a focus on only the Nostalgia Critic as opposed to the community of talent that was promised, and many, MANY other offenses. A few years ago, a group of contributors left the site at the same time some leaving for their own reasons, but some left in particular because of those actions. At the time, while I was outraged by what had occurred, I wanted to remain optimistic. I believed I could improve things from within, lend my voice to the higher-ups of the company to inspire them to recapture what had made the site so beloved before. In addition, several new contributors had also then-recently joined just as eager and enthusiastic about being a part of the site as I had been several years before. They wanted to be a part of this community and work alongside us and I felt that leaving then would have crushed their happiness and even potentially their own chances for success.

And so I stayed and I tried to do what I could to improve things. I failed. Over time, as I grew more and more dejected by this experience I resolved to simply put out my content, converse with the others on the site to help them directly whenever I could, and collect revenue for my show. Recently, however, it has come to light not just the offenses I was aware of, but even more that I had never been privy to. So many, in fact, that a twitter thread detailing them went on for two days straight of people asking questions and discovering new terrible things that had occurred that had happened even at the earliest days of my presence on the site that I had been completely oblivious of.

I have struggled since then about how best to handle my presence on Channel Awesome. I originally elected to leave much later, but at some point during this year especially after a major milestone in order to give things a clean start feel, but in talking with other producers who have decided to leave, I feel its best to just do it and get it out of the way.

And so here we are. Perhaps I should have left sooner, but these are the choices I have made and will have to live with. Regardless of anything else, I am still happy for the friendships I have made, the work I have done, and proud of being a part of the site for as long as I have. I simply wish that things could have been better. While many have scoffed about an aggregate site like Channel Awesome working these days, I do still think there is potential there a community of reviewers working together to promote one another and have plenty of pop culture videos and analyses, in my opinion at least, still holds sway especially if it promotes the brand as a whole and not just an individual.

Given my reasons for leaving, please do not take my and others departures as a sign that you should harass or question those who do remain. The simple fact is that I have been incredibly fortunate in that I do not require Channel Awesome to survive. Others may not be as fortunate and rely upon the views they get from the site or they may just have their own reasons for staying that they do not wish to share. It is their prerogative. All I will say is that you should support the content you love. Much like with the comics industry itself, its a matter of voting with your wallet or in this case, with your eyeballs.

Thank you all for your continued support. I couldnt do this without you all.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
03/24/18 5:43:11 PM
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jpenny2
03/24/18 5:45:33 PM
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Who's even left at Channel Awesome? Seems like their poor management has driven a lot of content creators away over the past several years.
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Muffinz0rz
03/24/18 5:46:27 PM
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are we supposed to not roll our eyes at anything that has the name "channel awesome?"
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Lonestar2000
03/24/18 5:46:46 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Who left what?

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Bass_X0
03/24/18 5:58:28 PM
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Are there really people on Current Events not aware of who the Nostalgia Critic is?

Well, his site is in trouble due to bad management and contributors are jumping ship.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
03/24/18 5:59:01 PM
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I know who Nostalgia Critic is, didn't know he had a website. I watch his stuff on Youtube.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/24/18 5:59:19 PM
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Who the fuck is Lewis?
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Bass_X0
03/24/18 6:00:35 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Who the fuck is Lewis?


The real name of Linkara from Atop The Fourth Wall.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/24/18 6:03:01 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Who the fuck is Lewis?


The real name of Linkara from Atop The Fourth Wall.

Imagine the douchiness of making a topic about Linkara and referring to him by his real name instead

That said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Aqw51ACvu4" data-time="
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TheCyborgNinja
03/24/18 6:04:18 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
are we supposed to not roll our eyes at anything that has the name "channel awesome?"

Right? It's the kind of name an overcompensating dork chooses.
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BatmanWTtP
03/24/18 6:32:29 PM
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Sad to see him go, this will always be my favorite Linkara vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZuzZIirRus" data-time="

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Skye Reynolds
03/24/18 6:36:09 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Imagine the douchiness of making a topic about Linkara and referring to him by his real name instead


This guy wouldn't like it:

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Bass_X0
03/24/18 6:36:49 PM
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He will still have a show on youtube, he just won't be on the site anymore.

I stopped going to channel awesome since they made it troublesome for me to watch videos on the site so I've been using youtube for quite a while now.
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Southernfatman
03/24/18 6:39:09 PM
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He was the biggest defender/shill of TGWTG/CA so some real shit has had to go down for him to abandon ship. I liked him at first, but he got annoying quick with his dumb skits. Dude is a huge perv too.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/24/18 6:40:00 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
Dude is a huge perv too.

Gay dead muppet gangbang
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refmon
03/24/18 6:40:19 PM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Who left what?

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Bass_X0
03/24/18 6:40:38 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Who the fuck is Lewis?


The real name of Linkara from Atop The Fourth Wall.

Imagine the douchiness of making a topic about Linkara and referring to him by his real name instead


I figured it was more appropriate in this case to use his real name rather than the name of his character in his show as it was dealing with real world issues.
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Southernfatman
03/24/18 6:41:32 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Southernfatman posted...
Dude is a huge perv too.

Gay dead muppet gangbang


The self proclaimed "nasty cock slut".
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Thatuser
03/24/18 6:42:53 PM
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Nostalgia Critic videos are all I watch on CA anyway. I don't even know who this person is. I will say I can't stand Doug's brother. Guy seems like a genuine prick irl.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/24/18 6:44:27 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
I figured it was more appropriate in this case to use his real name rather than the name of his character in his show as it was dealing with real world issues.

When John Wayne died did orbituaries read "Marion Mitchell Morrison dies at age 72"?
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Skye Reynolds
03/24/18 7:52:44 PM
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Somehow, I thought he was older than that when he died.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/24/18 8:07:40 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
I figured it was more appropriate in this case to use his real name rather than the name of his character in his show as it was dealing with real world issues.

When John Wayne died did orbituaries read "Marion Mitchell Morrison dies at age 72"?

John Wayne was killed by the studio producers and the US government. No seriously look it up. The filmed the last film before he died downwind of a nuclear bomb test site and he, along with everyone else in the cast, died of radiation poisoning. Look it up it's true!

You are the worst.
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AceMos
03/25/18 10:11:18 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Who the fuck is Lewis?


The real name of Linkara from Atop The Fourth Wall.

Imagine the douchiness of making a topic about Linkara and referring to him by his real name instead

That said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Aqw51ACvu4" data-time="


oh good the video that pointlessly went into lewis's private life to discuss things that where not our damn business
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YellowSUV
03/25/18 10:14:03 PM
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AceMos posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Who the fuck is Lewis?


The real name of Linkara from Atop The Fourth Wall.

Imagine the douchiness of making a topic about Linkara and referring to him by his real name instead

That said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Aqw51ACvu4" data-time="


oh good the video that pointlessly went into lewis's private life to discuss things that where not our damn business


That guy is a gamergator who gets his jollies making fun of people he considers to be SJWs. There is some interesting info in his Chanel Awesome videos if you look past the video creator's pettiness though.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/25/18 10:21:28 PM
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How is he petty? Linkara's history is his history. Are people not allowed to talk about it?
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AceMos
03/25/18 10:23:08 PM
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it was digging in to lewis's private life and the dudes source is 4chan

his fetish's are his own damn business
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Nomadic View
03/25/18 10:23:54 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Who left what?


Exactly what I thought.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/25/18 10:26:16 PM
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AceMos posted...
it was digging in to lewis's private life and the dudes source is 4chan

his fetish's are his own damn business

He wasn't digging into anything that wasn't publicly available.
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AceMos
03/25/18 10:30:08 PM
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again he had to use 4chan and they got it from an old website from back when he was a dumb collage kid

and he had deleted the stuff (as even mentioned in the video) so yea its not our business

oh and again 4CHAN why should that be a trusted source
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NibeIungsnarf
03/25/18 10:37:58 PM
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So what? Why can't we talk about what Linkara did as a dumb college kid that he put out there in the public space?

It's funny. He also had other sources. Iron Liz confirmed a lot of what he said. And it's not a fucking academic paper.

I have no idea why you're so fucking butthurt. He wasn't making an argument against Linkara as a person (with the porn stuff at least), he just thought it was funny. Because it was.
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Balrog0
03/25/18 10:42:27 PM
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What does that vidya say
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NibeIungsnarf
03/25/18 10:44:38 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
What does that vidya say

It talks about his history as a failed comic writer, clashes with his personality at Channel Awesome, how his career has been pretty good with a direct comparison to Spoony, and then about that time the internet found out he is sexually attracted to shemales, muppets and the Green M&M
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YellowSUV
03/25/18 11:25:51 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
How is he petty? Linkara's history is his history. Are people not allowed to talk about it?


I never said he wasn't allowed to talk about it. Making fun of Linkara's sexual fetishes doesn't really have anything to do with his work with Channel Awesome. Its trivial to the topic at hand.
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ZombiePelican
03/25/18 11:28:05 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
and then about that time the internet found out he is sexually attracted to shemales, muppets and the Green M&M

This will never not make me laugh
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NibeIungsnarf
03/25/18 11:31:01 PM
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YellowSUV posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
How is he petty? Linkara's history is his history. Are people not allowed to talk about it?


I never said he wasn't allowed to talk about it. Making fun of Linkara's sexual fetishes doesn't really have anything to do with his work with Channel Awesome. Its trivial to the topic at hand.

Maybe you misunderstood what the topic was?
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SimpleMan
03/25/18 11:35:02 PM
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I saw that Todd in the Shadows left a few days ago also.
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YellowSUV
03/25/18 11:37:13 PM
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SimpleMan posted...
I saw that Todd in the Shadows left a few days ago also.


Seems like people are realizing there really is no need to have your videos on Channel Awesome now. Its not like circa 2009 where working with that horribly managed company will get you exposure to people on the Internet.
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_BIueMonk
03/25/18 11:39:34 PM
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oh. i thought it was the black guy and i got worried. i like him.
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fusespliff
03/27/18 6:26:14 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
So what? Why can't we talk about what Linkara did as a dumb college kid that he put out there in the public space?

It's funny. He also had other sources. Iron Liz confirmed a lot of what he said. And it's not a fucking academic paper.

I have no idea why you're so fucking butthurt. He wasn't making an argument against Linkara as a person (with the porn stuff at least), he just thought it was funny. Because it was.


Yeah, don't bother arguing with AceMos on this. She won't budge an inch.
I'm the one that first showed her the vid to clarify why other posters were calling Linkara a perv and such. Then she tries to argue with me on the contents of the vid through PM and I just went "Hey, you wanted clarification".
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AceMos
03/27/18 7:13:48 PM
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fuse im sorry i argued with you back then ok
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