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ZenOfThunder 03/29/18 4:27:32 AM #51: |
agriculture
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HanOfTheNekos 03/29/18 12:30:25 PM #52: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...you actually don't know what Common Core is. Lol, I proved it by showing you how little you understood in that topic a year ago. But sure. Tell me Ulti, what is Common Core? --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 03/29/18 12:47:34 PM #53: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
Common Core education is trash Wait what?? I've literally never heard anything about that. I thought it used some super advanced education tech and was causing kids to become hella smart like the orientals. Do you have more info on this? This is pretty massive dude, you should write an article or two about it. People need to know. How did you even get this info?? Maybe you can TEACH us how haha ;) --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shaduln 03/29/18 12:57:32 PM #54: |
Also, let's just mention that common core isn't curriculum.
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neonreaper 03/29/18 2:09:03 PM #55: |
The biggest expert I know said it was an Obama Kenyanomics thing.
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NFUN 03/30/18 12:10:51 PM #56: |
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Corrik 03/30/18 12:37:08 PM #57: |
Common Core is ridiculous. Defending it is insane.
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foolm0r0n 03/30/18 1:30:24 PM #58: |
Corrik posted...
Common Core is ridiculous. Defending it is insane. So you agree with ulti --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forceful_Dragon 03/30/18 1:46:53 PM #59: |
Corrik posted...
Common Core is ridiculous. Defending it is insane. Adamantly insisting that something is as bad as the worst example of it is insane. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 03/30/18 1:55:28 PM #60: |
Corrik posted...
Common Core is ridiculous. Defending it is insane. Tell us specifically whats wrong with it. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 03/30/18 2:01:24 PM #61: |
Guys he agrees with ulti
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Tokoyami 03/30/18 2:04:40 PM #62: |
Common Core more like Common BORE ha
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Corrik 03/30/18 2:22:04 PM #63: |
foolm0r0n posted...
Corrik posted...Common Core is ridiculous. Defending it is insane. I think probably everyone here agrees fundamentally that common core is ridiculous. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrestonStarry2 03/30/18 2:23:20 PM #64: |
I haven't posted in this topic in 1 week and there's zero progress made here...
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foolm0r0n 03/30/18 2:25:30 PM #65: |
Corrik posted...
I think probably everyone here agrees fundamentally that common core is ridiculous. Everyone here agrees with ulti? --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forceful_Dragon 03/30/18 2:37:35 PM #68: |
I agree that the metrics required in common core curriculum can be implemented in ways that result in terrible questions/situations/etc.
They can also be implemented in ways that make sense. If I gave you the instructions "Use peanut butter, jelly, and bread to make food" then a few different things could happen. - You could take two slices of bread, apply peanut butter to one, jelly to the other, and put the peanut butter and jelly sides together to make a normal peanut butter and jelly sandwich. - You could take a handful of peanut butter (with your hand), toss it on the counter, cover that with jelly and then rip the bread into crumbs and sprinkle them on top. If someone in the world does the 2nd method it doesn't mean that the instructions themselves were indefensibly ridiculous. It might just mean that someone screwed up trying to follow what were otherwise perfectly adequate standards. So if you want to point to the standards themselves and explain why they are inherently bad or difficult to be implemented then we can have that discussion. But don't point to the idiot smearing peanut butter on his walls and tell me that his actions make the instructions themselves wrong. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 03/30/18 2:45:42 PM #69: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
Corrik posted...I think probably everyone here agrees fundamentally that common core is ridiculous. Stop the theatrics. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forceful_Dragon 03/30/18 2:46:15 PM #70: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
5 + 5 + 5 doesn't equal 15, for starters. You have to say 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3. Please, be wrong more, I think it's delicious when you are wrong about almost literally everything. The "problem" you are referring to is this: http://clutchmagonline.com/2015/10/apparently-555-does-not-equal-15-heres-why/ And the issue isn't the fact that you aren't allowed to say 5 + 5 + 5 is 15. Because you can say that. If this was an ADDITION problem and the QUESTION was 5 + 5 + 5, then the ANSWER would be 15. But it isn't. It's a MULTIPLICATION problem. And the question is 5x3. And the INSTRUCTIONS say to use the "repeated addition" strategy. Which is taught to the kids using something like this: https://www.homeschoolmath.net/teaching/md/multiplication-repeated-addition.php 5 x 2 3 x 4 So back to the problem that you were referring to... The question on the page was 5 x 3. And the kids are being taught to read 5 x 3 as FIVE groups of THREE. Not THREE groups of FIVE. So to correctly do the problem in the way it was taught you have to add 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3. Maybe you should go back to school... --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 03/30/18 2:54:55 PM #71: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
I will happily take the word of the actual parents and their actual kids over anyone else What if they are black or liberal/ --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Emeraldegg 03/30/18 2:55:19 PM #72: |
But isn't ulti rich? why would he need to go to school when he can just throw money at the problem and make it solve itself?
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foolm0r0n 03/30/18 2:55:49 PM #73: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
They're also always leftists, which I'm sure is only a coincidence. I'm deeply conservative and I highly support pedophilia especially in government positions and as youtube vloggers --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JeffreyRaze 03/30/18 2:57:10 PM #74: |
As much as I disagree with marking multiplication that way, the answer itself being worth no marks if the method is wrong is pretty much standard in upper level math courses.
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Peace___Frog 03/30/18 3:30:34 PM #75: |
JeffreyRaze posted...
As much as I disagree with marking multiplication that way, the answer itself being worth no marks if the method is wrong is pretty much standard in upper level math courses. Exactly. Showing your work is everything. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 03/30/18 4:11:55 PM #77: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
stuff I repeat. What is Common Core? If you truly believe it to be a terrible thing, you should know exactly what it is. Examples of "New Math" (which has been a boogeyman for far longer than Common Core has existed) don't answer this question. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forceful_Dragon 03/30/18 4:41:03 PM #78: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
So you are saying that 5 piles of 3 rocks is the exact same as 3 piles of 5 rocks? Both scenarios contain the same amount of rocks, but they are not the same. If you enter a room with 5 piles of 3 rocks each and were going to add them up you would do it with 5 sets of 3, not 3 sets of 5. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 03/30/18 5:37:58 PM #79: |
Ulti's too stubborn to realize Common Core math is trying to teach math based on the real world, he only knows it's different, and that's enough.
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foolm0r0n 03/31/18 11:33:19 AM #80: |
Imagine how dumb ulti would be if he was taught by common core
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NFUN 04/01/18 11:42:28 AM #81: |
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PrestonStarry2 04/01/18 12:00:52 PM #82: |
Red Team
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Shaduln 04/01/18 12:25:02 PM #84: |
So you still can't explain what common core is cool.
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PrestonStarry2 04/01/18 12:30:16 PM #85: |
Blue Team
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ChaosTonyV4 04/01/18 5:38:59 PM #86: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...math based on the real world Forceful_Dragon posted...
My favorite part of that second video in post 76 is when the woman goes "Well they say it's for when they get older they'll understand more complicated versions, such as how this is 5 groups of 3...but you get the same answer, so how can it be wrong?" Literally any math class, if the teacher says to use a method and you either don't or don't show your work, you get marked wrong. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 04/02/18 10:36:18 PM #87: |
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neonreaper 04/03/18 11:34:30 AM #88: |
common core is OK. the first I saw of it was some over-dramatized demonstration of how long division could be slightly more convoluted than the way I learned it. But that's not really what it is.
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NFUN 04/04/18 2:03:07 AM #89: |
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NFUN 04/05/18 1:46:35 AM #90: |
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NFUN 04/06/18 2:15:41 AM #91: |
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NFUN 04/07/18 2:55:58 AM #92: |
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NFUN 04/07/18 11:59:41 PM #93: |
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HanOfTheNekos 04/08/18 1:00:48 AM #96: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
Shaduln posted...So you still can't explain what common core is cool. Wrong. It's not a way of teaching. And Ulti - ask any real engineer, and they'll tell you that methodology matters. It's the difference between life and death in many situations. And I'm not watching the video you posted, but according to just the thumbnail, the "common core" methodology is the way people do math in their head. So it seems as though your personal example (someone doing math in their head) IS the "common core" way. So you just actually defended common core. Good job! --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 04/08/18 1:02:40 AM #97: |
HanOfTheNekos posted...
And I'm not watching the video you posted, but according to just the thumbnail, the "common core" methodology is the way people do math in their head. So it seems as though your personal example (someone doing math in their head) IS the "common core" way. have you never seen ulti debate before? --- Thus is our treaty written, thus is our agreement made. Thought is the arrow of time; memory never fades. What was asked is given; the price is paid. ARF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 04/08/18 1:09:44 AM #98: |
I've had this exact debate with Ulti before. It ended with him admitting that Common Core standards were a good thing. It was funny because I asked him if certain things were important to have in education, and he said yes, and then I was all "you're literally just defining Common Core".
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5tarscream 04/08/18 1:43:48 AM #99: |
Those are some grade A horse shit examples.
What if one person does it quickly and wrong? What if they do it at the exact same time because they've learnt that method from a young age and are just as adept at using it? Your examples are so one-dimensional. Would YOU rather have a fast solution or a slow one isn't the issue. If I can do Common core faster than you can do your method then does that mean comon core is a better method or that I'm a better mathematician. If all the best mathematicians go into engineering and science then who the fuck is teaching them the maths they need to get there? Is that not the teacher? Do you even realise what it is your saying? --- User ID: 4002777 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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