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AlephZero
03/20/18 2:00:11 PM
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http://m.jpost.com/Diaspora/Antisemitism/Man-who-taught-dog-Nazi-salute-found-guilty-of-hate-crime-546584

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Puglia77
03/20/18 2:01:51 PM
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An who who?
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Funkydog
03/20/18 2:01:59 PM
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Yeah, it's stupid. Hopefully he isn't actually given any serious punishment but sounds like they want to "send a message" with him.
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AlephZero
03/20/18 2:04:42 PM
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an man
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refmon
03/20/18 2:06:41 PM
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Whos the victim in this crime
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ForestLogic
03/20/18 2:09:19 PM
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Un

Fucking

Believable

Lost all respect for the UK after this horse shit.
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Blue_Inigo
03/20/18 2:09:37 PM
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Good. Fuck the nazis
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The Admiral
03/20/18 2:10:52 PM
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refmon posted...
Whos the victim in this crime


No one, but the U.K. has dumbshit hate speech laws.
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DoomtheGrav
03/20/18 2:17:30 PM
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Lmfaoooo
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Steelix500
03/20/18 2:19:45 PM
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Lol imagine if they put animal abuse charges on top of that
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Funkydog
03/20/18 2:21:45 PM
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The Admiral posted...
No one, but the U.K. has dumbshit hate speech laws.

Even with our laws on it, I struggle to see how this falls under them.

It just reeks of wanting to set a precedent for such matters and for something that was clearly a joke it is just plain troubling in general. Are we going to arrest John Cleese now for his nazi impressions in Fawlty Towers?
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NINExATExSEVEN
03/20/18 2:23:21 PM
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The Admiral posted...
refmon posted...
Whos the victim in this crime


No one, but the U.K. has dumbshit hate speech laws.


The U.K. only has hate speech laws that protect any minorities from criticism deemed as "hate speech".

The U.K. is also more concerned with protecting minorities feelings, rather than protecting young women from grooming gangs.
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BlueJester007
03/20/18 2:23:35 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
Smh only in America


Dude, its the UK.
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Smashingpmkns
03/20/18 2:27:05 PM
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UK has some pretty strict hate speech laws.
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Master_Bass
03/20/18 2:30:32 PM
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BlueJester007 posted...
16-BITTER posted...
Smh only in America


Dude, its the UK.

Only into the US!
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tennisdude818
03/20/18 2:31:59 PM
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Leftists who support hate speech laws should realize that someday those stupid laws will be used against them.
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J E S U S
03/20/18 2:41:43 PM
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The dog was later destroyed
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SRR Capdown
03/20/18 2:44:56 PM
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Funkydog posted...
The Admiral posted...
No one, but the U.K. has dumbshit hate speech laws.

Even with our laws on it, I struggle to see how this falls under them.

It just reeks of wanting to set a precedent for such matters and for something that was clearly a joke it is just plain troubling in general. Are we going to arrest John Cleese now for his nazi impressions in Fawlty Towers?


This, on paper our hate speech laws aren't that bad and not really any different than Americas. This definitely reeks of the guy being made an example of to get away with acting upon them more often and more harshly.

I think it was a pretty tasteless joke, but it was obviously a joke and the sad thing is, is that there are tonnes of actual British white nationalists espousing horrible stuff on Facebook/Twitter/etc and it'd actually serve a better purpose to really make an example of them and not this guy.
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Zikten
03/20/18 2:45:06 PM
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J E S U S posted...
The dog was later destroyed

I hope not. that would make me furious. the dog did nothing wrong
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EnragedSlith
03/20/18 2:47:04 PM
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Europe, in general, has stricter laws about this sort of thing. They also suffered far more than we did during that war, which would explain why tensions still exist.
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GreatEvilEmpire
03/20/18 2:48:51 PM
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That's pretty messed up. The UK is going backwards.

What he did was obviously a joke. I guess they rather go after pranksters than going after real criminals who rape and murder.
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YourDrunkFather
03/20/18 2:53:22 PM
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So hurting people's feelings is basically a crime in the UK now
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Fenrimis
03/20/18 2:53:30 PM
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I thought this was Germany because I know they're super crazy about the nazi shit, but UK? wtf?
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NibeIungsnarf
03/20/18 2:54:37 PM
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Does anyone actually support this rulling? Like the UK public? I realize politicians wont comment cause its moronic but they wouldnt wanna be seen as being pro nazi doggos.
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solosnake
03/20/18 2:55:36 PM
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Did his girlfriend turn him in?
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Duncanwii
03/20/18 2:57:34 PM
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I'm an American but I don't think Americans really understand the true horror of living under the Nazi regime. If I were a politician in Europe I'd criminalize anything that may bring that bull shit back as well.
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tennisdude818
03/20/18 2:58:48 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Good. Fuck the nazis


Who is the Nazi? The video was a joke.
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The Admiral
03/20/18 3:00:11 PM
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The saddest part here is that if the man actually is sentenced to jail for this, the dog will probably be euthanized.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/20/18 3:00:57 PM
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The Admiral posted...
The saddest part here is that if the man actually is sentenced to jail for this, the dog will probably be euthanized.

[Citation needed]

Oh, you just made that up?
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tennisdude818
03/20/18 3:01:26 PM
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With these asinine laws Im sure Monty Python would have ended up in jail at some point. Idiots.
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Funkydog
03/20/18 3:11:47 PM
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The Admiral posted...
The saddest part here is that if the man actually is sentenced to jail for this, the dog will probably be euthanized.

Why's that?

It was his girlfriends dog, not his.
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AlephZero
03/20/18 3:14:53 PM
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charge the dog with a hate crime the dog was complicit
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luigi13579
03/20/18 3:20:43 PM
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The judge apparently said he was found guilty of being "grossly offensive". Well, I am grossly offended by this ruling (as are many others), so the judge should also be charged.
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NeonOctopus
03/20/18 3:23:13 PM
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Mark Meechan instructed the dog to perform the salute when he said "sieg heil" or "gas the Jews."


LMFAO
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darkjedilink
03/20/18 3:26:17 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Good. Fuck the nazis

Yeah, fuck freedom.
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FaultyGourry
03/20/18 3:27:31 PM
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Convicted of a joke being "grossly offensive". What the fuck does that even mean? Is the offensiveness of said joke graded on a sliding scale from not at all offensive to grossly offensive? Who gets to decide what is or isn't offensive in the first place? Why is something as subjective as offensiveness being used to determine whether or not to criminalize an act? Everyone with any sense of humor or belief in freedom of speech should be thoroughly disgusted and scared of this outcome. What the fuck is wrong with you, Scotland?
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DocileOrangeCup
03/20/18 3:28:10 PM
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I feel like I could go there and do that freely because the backlash from gamefaqs.gamespot.com would be so great they'd have no choice but to free me
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AlephZero
03/20/18 3:29:02 PM
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FaultyGourry posted...
Everyone with any sense of humor or belief in freedom of speech

Freedom of speech is not a thing in the UK.
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Proclose
03/20/18 3:29:53 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
Good. f*** the nazis

Yeah, f*** freedom.

AlephZero posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
Everyone with any sense of humor or belief in freedom of speech

Freedom of speech is not a thing in the UK.

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Hummer 2
03/20/18 3:33:40 PM
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Not surprised CE is full of Nazi sympathizers
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Maze_
03/20/18 3:35:31 PM
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I remember hearing the guys who made the Indiana Jones movie apparently debated wether or not to have the Monkey do a Nazi Salute or if that was too silly.

Wonder what they would think now people are being arrested for it
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FaultyGourry
03/20/18 3:38:01 PM
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AlephZero posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
Everyone with any sense of humor or belief in freedom of speech

Freedom of speech is not a thing in the UK.

It is though. Granted it's a freedom upheld by the UN, but it's still a freedom.
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Trelve
03/20/18 3:39:28 PM
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Hummer 2 posted...
Not surprised CE is full of Nazi sympathizers


Please point out who defended Nazi-ism here.
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darkjedilink
03/20/18 3:55:58 PM
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FaultyGourry posted...
AlephZero posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
Everyone with any sense of humor or belief in freedom of speech

Freedom of speech is not a thing in the UK.

It is though. Granted it's a freedom upheld by the UN, but it's still a freedom.

You didn't read the article, huh?
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Hummer 2
03/20/18 3:57:32 PM
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Trelve posted...
Hummer 2 posted...
Not surprised CE is full of Nazi sympathizers


Please point out who defended Nazi-ism here.


Weak rebuttal. About what I'd expect from a Nazi. "It wasn't me, I was just following orders waaaaah"
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Funkydog
03/20/18 4:00:25 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
You didn't read the article, huh?

Even our laws don't really allow for this. It is clear they want to make an example of him so they can clamp down on it in the future and so he has to suffer for a joke. Will other comedians be hit as well? We have several big name comedians who do a lot of offensive stuff and then we have John Cleese who did plenty of Nazi/German jokes in Fawlty Towers as a big example of a popular show/comedian. Should he be arrested now because of it?

It's mind boggling that this has gone as it has and I truly hope it gets thrown out. Either be EU court of justice or gets challenged in our own courts.
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The Admiral
03/20/18 4:02:39 PM
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Hummer 2 posted...
Trelve posted...
Hummer 2 posted...
Not surprised CE is full of Nazi sympathizers


Please point out who defended Nazi-ism here.


Weak rebuttal. About what I'd expect from a Nazi. "It wasn't me, I was just following orders waaaaah"


LOL.

Who are you?
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DirkDiggles
03/20/18 4:03:44 PM
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Hummer 2 posted...
Not surprised CE is full of Nazi sympathizers


Sigless user logic. Nobody itt defended Nazis.
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