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CableZL
03/19/18 1:01:15 AM
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A couple of those package bombs exploded a few miles away from my apartment...
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AFriendlyFace
03/19/18 1:02:05 AM
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Unabomber pt 2?
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gunplagirl
03/19/18 1:05:02 AM
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The Texas ones targeting black people?

I saw an update a few minutes ago saying one went off earlier today (err, yesterday in half the continental US) and was reported as two explosions at first.
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chill02
03/19/18 1:06:13 AM
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don't blow up pls
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Axiom
03/19/18 1:06:44 AM
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Oh shit so you're in that area. Yeah that's fucked up what's going on down there. Hope they catch the crazy asshole that's leaving them
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sktgamer_13dude
03/19/18 1:10:58 AM
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TheDarkCircle
03/19/18 1:13:25 AM
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Stop leaving packages everywhere TC and u won't get any more texts about it
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Anteaterking
03/19/18 1:14:09 AM
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gunplagirl
03/19/18 2:00:29 AM
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Axiom posted...
Oh shit so you're in that area. Yeah that's fucked up what's going on down there. Hope they catch the crazy asshole that's leaving them

The person doing it isn't crazy

They're targeting black people, the motivation is pretty easy to determine
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Alucard188
03/19/18 2:03:03 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Axiom posted...
Oh shit so you're in that area. Yeah that's fucked up what's going on down there. Hope they catch the crazy asshole that's leaving them

The person doing it isn't crazy

They're targeting black people, the motivation is pretty easy to determine


You know, I think leaving packaged bombs for people to open is well within the definition of crazy, regardless of their motivations.
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gunplagirl
03/19/18 2:05:12 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Axiom posted...
Oh shit so you're in that area. Yeah that's fucked up what's going on down there. Hope they catch the crazy asshole that's leaving them

The person doing it isn't crazy

They're targeting black people, the motivation is pretty easy to determine


You know, I think leaving packaged bombs for people to open is well within the definition of crazy, regardless of their motivations.


I'm pretty sure it isn't unless you're using a very loose definition for crazy like "operating outside of the standard accepted practices of society"

The term you're looking for is evil, or terrorism, or potentially white nationalism.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
03/19/18 2:12:05 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Alucard188 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Axiom posted...
Oh shit so you're in that area. Yeah that's fucked up what's going on down there. Hope they catch the crazy asshole that's leaving them

The person doing it isn't crazy

They're targeting black people, the motivation is pretty easy to determine


You know, I think leaving packaged bombs for people to open is well within the definition of crazy, regardless of their motivations.


I'm pretty sure it isn't unless you're using a very loose definition for crazy like "operating outside of the standard accepted practices of society"

The term you're looking for is evil, or terrorism, or potentially white nationalism.

Crazy=/= dumb

Dudes fucking crazy, and evil
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Ben_Ruggiero
03/19/18 2:16:02 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Alucard188 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Axiom posted...
Oh shit so you're in that area. Yeah that's fucked up what's going on down there. Hope they catch the crazy asshole that's leaving them

The person doing it isn't crazy

They're targeting black people, the motivation is pretty easy to determine


You know, I think leaving packaged bombs for people to open is well within the definition of crazy, regardless of their motivations.


I'm pretty sure it isn't unless you're using a very loose definition for crazy like "operating outside of the standard accepted practices of society"

The term you're looking for is evil, or terrorism, or potentially white nationalism.

Look at it. It's already spinning it
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Kombucha
03/19/18 2:18:44 AM
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is tc in texas? stay safe man.
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gunplagirl
03/19/18 2:21:24 AM
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This is a few years old but still relevant

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/stories/ucla-faculty-voice-are-all-terrorists-crazy

tl;dr it's lazy and inaccurate to say they're crazy

To add on to that, it is especially wrong to make that assumption since the other motivations (racism, violence targeting black people) are ones that historically were considered acceptable in some form or another within the last century (that is, living memory). Hell, lynchings were still committed into the 1960s, and I doubt most people would ever dare accuse the people who committed those atrocities of being crazy.
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gunplagirl
03/19/18 2:25:04 AM
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Ben_Ruggiero posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Alucard188 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Axiom posted...
Oh shit so you're in that area. Yeah that's fucked up what's going on down there. Hope they catch the crazy asshole that's leaving them

The person doing it isn't crazy

They're targeting black people, the motivation is pretty easy to determine


You know, I think leaving packaged bombs for people to open is well within the definition of crazy, regardless of their motivations.


I'm pretty sure it isn't unless you're using a very loose definition for crazy like "operating outside of the standard accepted practices of society"

The term you're looking for is evil, or terrorism, or potentially white nationalism.

Look at it. It's already spinning it


Given the increase in radicalized white men carrying out terrorism in the united states, as well as the location and targets of these bombs thus far, it is very well within the realm of plausibility to say this could be a white nationalist carrying out terror attacks. Regardless of affiliation, this IS terrorism and has been successful thus far. Getting much of the area in fear to the point of having the police use emergency channels to alert everyone to stay inside.
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CableZL
03/19/18 9:39:33 AM
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They're saying one of the most recent books was possibly set off by tripwire. Holy crap.
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Giant_Aspirin
03/19/18 9:50:43 AM
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this shit is scary. it's terrorism. plain and simple. stay safe, homie.

i wonder why Trump is silent on this incident of domestic terrorism?
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bover_87
03/19/18 9:52:51 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
i wonder why Trump is silent on this incident of domestic terrorism?

Probably hasn't seen Fox & Friends try to spin this yet.
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_Near_
03/19/18 9:54:54 AM
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gunplagirl posted...

I'm pretty sure it isn't unless you're using a very loose definition for crazy like "operating outside of the standard accepted practices of society"

The term you're looking for is evil, or terrorism, or potentially white nationalism.


why would you focus on such a tiny semantic issue
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CelestialVoices
03/19/18 9:54:56 AM
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yikes. be safe out there
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CableZL
03/19/18 11:37:14 AM
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Drove by the area on the way to work. Holy crap. Heavy police presence, ambulances, and tons of news trucks parked along the road.
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Eat More Beef
03/19/18 11:44:59 AM
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Damn dude. Stay safe.

While this is clear domestic terrorism, I think we should refrain from trying to pin a label to this person(s) until, you know, they're actually caught and their motives are known.
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_RETS_
03/19/18 11:47:49 AM
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@gunplagirl

There is nothing right now to suggest the bomber is targeting black people. Although that might end up being the case, there is no reason right now to jump the gun and start squawking about white terrorism. What I said in another topic:

The first two victims were both black, but knew each other. even if that was random, east Austin is heavily black/hispanic, so even randomly targeting would have a high chance of minority victims.

The third victim was a hispanic lady who lived next to who is thought to be the intended target and may have been wrongly targeted. The seemingly intended target also knows the first two.

So there you have a connection that may be limited to these individuals outside of race.

But then in west Austin, a more white/upperclass area, we have the latest two victims who apparently biked across a tripwire, which indicates a completely random bomb placement. The fact that this was presumably a tripwire in a more affluent area of the city suggests blacks are not a target.

I live in Austin as well, not too far from where the first round of bombs went off. I think the latest one is going to really put people on edge given that (if it's true) it was a trip wire across one of the many paths people take every day in the city.
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Anteaterking
03/19/18 12:25:04 PM
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_Near_ posted...
why would you focus on such a tiny semantic issue


Because calling all mass shooters/terrorists crazy is an easy way to downplay their motives.

If you consider "shooting a bunch of people" an action of a crazy person, then only crazy people are mass shooters. If bombing a clinic makes you crazy, then only crazy people bomb abortion clinics. Etc. And that means that we never have to confront things like "Maybe the White House's continued attacks on the media are vulcanizing the people who attack their offices" or things like that.
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Turbam
03/19/18 12:26:58 PM
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I hope that they catch the guy.
I'm in Round Rock, so I'm probably fine, but still nervous

Stay safe
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_RETS_
03/19/18 12:31:38 PM
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Obviously the sooner the better. Seems he may be working to something bigger given the bump in sophistication.

Really sucks. People run and bike trails by the thousands every day here and now have to worry about tripping a fucking wire.
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_Near_
03/19/18 12:58:55 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
_Near_ posted...
why would you focus on such a tiny semantic issue


Because calling all mass shooters/terrorists crazy is an easy way to downplay their motives.

If you consider "shooting a bunch of people" an action of a crazy person, then only crazy people are mass shooters. If bombing a clinic makes you crazy, then only crazy people bomb abortion clinics. Etc. And that means that we never have to confront things like "Maybe the White House's continued attacks on the media are vulcanizing the people who attack their offices" or things like that.


everyone thinks that people who commit mass shootings are crazy

that doesn't erase the motives, because the motives are also crazy

that doesn't erase systematic issues which fuel the motives, because those are also crazy

People saying that it's crazy isn't the thing that's keeping us from talking about our real issues. And you're never going to convince people that mass shootings aren't crazy...and I don't see why you should be trying.

It's the most lazy of semantic issues to harp on
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fan357
03/19/18 12:58:56 PM
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Stay safe. Have all the victims been black?
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gnomefromnome
03/19/18 1:01:30 PM
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fan357 posted...
Stay safe. Have all the victims been black?


_RETS_ posted...
The third victim was a hispanic lady who lived next to who is thought to be the intended target and may have been wrongly targeted. The seemingly intended target also knows the first two

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_RETS_
03/19/18 1:02:08 PM
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fan357 posted...
Stay safe. Have all the victims been black?


No. The third was a hispanic woman (though it is possible the intended target lived a couple doors away from her, who is black) and the two latest ones are both white.
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fan357
03/19/18 1:03:07 PM
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gnomefromnome posted...
fan357 posted...
Stay safe. Have all the victims been black?


_RETS_ posted...
The third victim was a hispanic lady who lived next to who is thought to be the intended target and may have been wrongly targeted. The seemingly intended target also knows the first two


Well that's interesting.
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