Board 8 > Infinity War Trailer

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Eh, I don't think you could have a Tony Stark that isn't RDJ at this point. Even if the replacement is good, that's a standard that would be impossible to live up to.
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if we can get a joker after heath ledger we can definitely get an iron man after RDJ.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

if we can get a joker after heath ledger we can definitely get an iron man after RDJ.

Eh, that's different. Those Jokers are in different continuities. I dunno if you could've had a replacement Joker in Dark Knight Rises.
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Maybe Iron Man just never takes his helmet off and all his lines are from an RDJ Iron Man soundboard
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Ehhh people are used to all sorts of different Jokers, Heath Ledgers was fine but it was never an end all-be all.

I will forever maintain he was incredibly overrated due to dying as well.

RDJ basically is Tony Stark now. Thats as irreplaceable as it gets.
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Maybe they just won't kill him and he'll show up more rarely from now on.
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while i personally don't necessarily think heath ledger's joker was the best one, you do have to remember that tons of people did think that. hell, ledger's joker may be the most praised performance in a superhero movie ever - at least it's one of the most praised performances. don't see how a new actor playing the joker is different from a new actor playing iron man, aside from the continuity thing leonhart mentioned. (i wouldn't be surprised if they reboot the MCU in the not too distant future, but we'll see.)

edit: granted, red's point about there already having been jokers before ledger is also a good one. technically speaking we already had several animated iron mans before RDJ too, though >_>
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Well, I think the continuity factor does matter. People generally don't like it when actors are replaced within the same continuity, even if the character portrayed wasn't all that popular. The change from Katie Holmes to Maggie Gyllenhall in TDK wasn't well received, and nobody cares about that character.

RDJ as Tony Stark is iconic at this point. There would be backlash no matter who the replacement was.
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What is the MCU time scaling like? Is it basically 1:1 with us? Has it been 10 in-universe years since Stark became Iron Man?
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LeonhartFour posted...

People generally don't like it when actors are replaced within the same continuity, even if the character portrayed wasn't all that popular. The change from Katie Holmes to Maggie Gyllenhall in TDK wasn't well received, and nobody cares about that character.

eh, i think that has more to do with the fact that most people thought gyllenhaal was worse than holmes. people didn't seem to care all that much that three different actresses played kitty pryde in the first three x-men movies.
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Jakyl25 posted...

What is the MCU time scaling like? Is it basically 1:1 with us? Has it been 10 in-universe years since Stark became Iron Man?

I think generally speaking, the movies are set in the year they came out in (I know Guardians 2 is an exception to that), although I don't necessarily know if that means they treat the flow of time the same way.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

eh, i think that has more to do with the fact that most people thought gyllenhaal was worse than holmes. people didn't seem to care all that much that three different actresses played kitty pryde in the first three x-men movies.

yeah but like red said RDJ is Tony Stark to a lot of people at this point

no one could possibly be a "better" version of that than RDJ
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

People generally don't like it when actors are replaced within the same continuity, even if the character portrayed wasn't all that popular. The change from Katie Holmes to Maggie Gyllenhall in TDK wasn't well received, and nobody cares about that character.

eh, i think that has more to do with the fact that most people thought gyllenhaal was worse than holmes. people didn't seem to care all that much that three different actresses played kitty pryde in the first three x-men movies.

I mean I don't even remember Kitty being in the first two so it seems a bit off to compare it to Iron Man. >_>
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professor x even calls kitty by name in the first one!

but uh yeah, her appearances in the first two are little more than cameos so you're right, it's not a great comparison.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

What is the MCU time scaling like? Is it basically 1:1 with us? Has it been 10 in-universe years since Stark became Iron Man?

I think generally speaking, the movies are set in the year they came out in (I know Guardians 2 is an exception to that), although I don't necessarily know if that means they treat the flow of time the same way.

I think I also read that Thor: Ragnarok also takes place after Black Panther, technically, but I'm not 100 % sure of that, especially as I haven't seen Black Panther yet.
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Black panther takes place days after Civil War
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Im not necessarily talking about the timeline order

I just meant how much time has taken place between Iron Man 1 and Avengers 3
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Jakyl25 posted...

Im not necessarily talking about the timeline order

I just meant how much time has taken place between Iron Man 1 and Avengers 3

yeah that's what I meant too

it could be one of those weird sitcom situations where time clearly passes at a regular clip but the characters don't age at the same rate

the MCU hasn't really given any sort of clear indications about how long ago one event took place compared to another, at least as far as I remember, but I could be wrong
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In Civil War, Vision states that 8 years have passed since the events of Iron Man 1.
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redrocket_pub posted...

In Civil War, Vision states that 8 years have passed since the events of Iron Man 1.

Homecoming also said it was 8 years after the Battle of New York, which seems weird. Because isn't Homecoming just a few months after Civil War? So was Avengers 1 a few months after Iron Man 1?
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Jukkie posted...

The next big bad has to be Galactius. After the other FF4 movie ruined him, he needs a real set up, as the monster he is.

That way you can fade out Iron Man and Cap, and bring in FF4 and Silver Surfer.

Silver Surfer is getting a solo movie and it's not from Marvel so no.
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I'm not sure if this means anything, but has anyone noticed that Hawkeye hasn't appeared in any of these trailers?

Not to sound pessimistic, but if I had to choose one Avenger most likely to be squashed flat by Thanos 5 seconds after he sets foot on Earth it would be the guy whose only superpower is to aim a bow really well.
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I think it'd be one of easiest things in the world to have a new non-Tony Stark Ironman after he retires. It's just a suit. It'd be silly not to.

Grand Kirby posted...

I'm not sure if this means anything, but has anyone noticed that Hawkeye hasn't appeared in any of these trailers?

Not to sound pessimistic, but if I had to choose one Avenger most likely to be squashed flat by Thanos 5 seconds after he sets foot on Earth it would be the guy whose only superpower is to aim a bow really well.

Set photos suggest there's a reason for that, but it's not that.
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MrGreenonion posted...

redrocket_pub posted...

In Civil War, Vision states that 8 years have passed since the events of Iron Man 1.

Homecoming also said it was 8 years after the Battle of New York, which seems weird. Because isn't Homecoming just a few months after Civil War? So was Avengers 1 a few months after Iron Man 1?

Avengers 1 is a bit over a year after Iron Man 1. Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, and Thor all take place within a week of each other one year after Iron Man 1, then Avengers takes place a few months later. Then Homecoming is a year after Civil War. So it does work.
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Grand Kirby posted...

I'm not sure if this means anything, but has anyone noticed that Hawkeye hasn't appeared in any of these trailers?

Not to sound pessimistic, but if I had to choose one Avenger most likely to be squashed flat by Thanos 5 seconds after he sets foot on Earth it would be the guy whose only superpower is to aim a bow really well.

Ant-Man doesn't feature either.
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My hot predix.

This movie will end up with Captain Marvel and SWORD saving the day and fighting back Thanos since they keep pushing her as the strongest hero in the MCU who was around before the MCU officially started. She has been keeping any alien threats (like the Skrull and Kree) from messing with Earth. This doesn't include the Chitauri because they came in through a portal rather than from space. So when Thanos comes knocking, they suit up and go for an all out attack on him and manage to fight him back with Captain Marvel looking super strong for everyone to get excited for her movie.

And really, the only villains they can do after this for Avengers are probably Kang the Conqueror, Skrull, or Masters of Evil. Skrull would be a fun concept and movie. I'm quite partial to the Masters of Evil since Zemo is great and still around. But most of that is just me hoping for a Thunderbolts movie after Avengers 4.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

She has been keeping any alien threats (like the Skrull and Kree) from messing with Earth.

She missed some Kree on Agents of SHIELD then
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Does Agents of Shield even still count as part of the MCU?
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Why wouldnt it?
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Because it's always been questionable and I feel like Joss Whedon said it isn't a while back.
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whedon doesn't decide that.

how is it questionable? i haven't seen agents of shield but i've never heard of stuff happening in the series that directly contradicts the MCU movies.
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It does but I am fully expecting them to just jettison all of the TV stuff at some point.

Amyway I do just want to say that trailer looks actually great.
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Too much stuff from the movies had had a direct impact on the show to now just go "oh they're not connected though". I think the Registration Act also had an influence on Daisy in S4, but I don't recall it perfectly.
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RyoCaliente posted...

Too much stuff from the movies had had a direct impact on the show to now just go "oh they're not connected though". I think the Registration Act also had an influence on Daisy in S4, but I don't recall it perfectly.

What in the shows directly affects the movies? I've never watched any non-movie stuff.
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RyoCaliente posted...

Too much stuff from the movies had had a direct impact on the show to now just go "oh they're not connected though". I think the Registration Act also had an influence on Daisy in S4, but I don't recall it perfectly.

What in the shows directly affects the movies? I've never watched any non-movie stuff.

Nothing, actually. However, that's not really a totally fair assessment to make since the show took over SHIELD and the movies pretty much moved away from the concept of SHIELD entirely. And the movies can't find an easy way to introduce Inhumans into corners of Marvel that don't need them.
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RyoCaliente posted...

Too much stuff from the movies had had a direct impact on the show to now just go "oh they're not connected though". I think the Registration Act also had an influence on Daisy in S4, but I don't recall it perfectly.

What in the shows directly affects the movies? I've never watched any non-movie stuff.

Retroactively, the helicarrier in Age of Ultron. Which was a thing that Coulson was responsible for, apparently, if I remember right. They didn't really specify that it was the helicarrier that they were talking about until after Age of Ultron actually released, though.
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Hype as fuck.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

My hot predix.

This movie will end up with Captain Marvel and SWORD saving the day and fighting back Thanos since they keep pushing her as the strongest hero in the MCU who was around before the MCU officially started. She has been keeping any alien threats (like the Skrull and Kree) from messing with Earth. This doesn't include the Chitauri because they came in through a portal rather than from space. So when Thanos comes knocking, they suit up and go for an all out attack on him and manage to fight him back with Captain Marvel looking super strong for everyone to get excited for her movie.

They've already confirmed Captain Marvel isn't in this one. However, they've also confirmed that both her and Thanos are going to be in the next Avenger's film, so we'll surely see them have a go then.

My prediction is Black Widow dies and Hulk goes WWH on Thanos. Strongest of all, after all.
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JackMan posted...

My prediction is Black Widow dies and Hulk goes WWH on Thanos. Strongest of all, after all.

I mean, it could be a flashback film, but the announcement of a Widow solo film makes me think this is unlikely. Plus, they're going to be scrambling to keep as many name stars as possible like ScarJo.
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I've been around nerd media enough not to fully trust someone who says x isn't in this to keep something a surprise, but I'll still hold out hope for a Captain Marvel debut here. I think it would be the best way to show her off.
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Agents of SHIELD has started messing with time travel this season, so I think it's theoretically possible that it's branched out into an alternate timeline from the movies now. Which is fine if it has because it's not like it was ever going to have an actual effect on the movies.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

JackMan posted...

My prediction is Black Widow dies and Hulk goes WWH on Thanos. Strongest of all, after all.

I mean, it could be a flashback film, but the announcement of a Widow solo film makes me think this is unlikely. Plus, they're going to be scrambling to keep as many name stars as possible like ScarJo.

Oh, I didn't know she had a solo film. Maybe, presumed dead then? I just wanna see Hulk go full rager boner on Thanos and that seems like the thing that'll set him off hardest.

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

I've been around nerd media enough not to fully trust someone who says x isn't in this to keep something a surprise, but I'll still hold out hope for a Captain Marvel debut here. I think it would be the best way to show her off.

I'd love to see her too, but I think, at best, she'll get a post-credit scene.
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JackMan posted...

Oh, I didn't know she had a solo film. Maybe, presumed dead then? I just wanna see Hulk go full rager boner on Thanos and that seems like the thing that'll set him off hardest.

Yeah, I could see some form of an MIA or fake-out death.
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I hope we get Yelena aping off the newly blonde Black Widow doing nefarious stuff while Natalia is assumed dead and that's why Natalia goes after her.

IDK I just like Yelena a lot and would like to see her. Spy vs Spy battle would probably be something fun and new for the franchise too.
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Yelena is a legit Top 40 Marvel character for me and wildly cooler than her redheaded counterpart. Get Natalie Dormer to play her!
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RyoCaliente posted...

Grand Kirby posted...

I'm not sure if this means anything, but has anyone noticed that Hawkeye hasn't appeared in any of these trailers?

Not to sound pessimistic, but if I had to choose one Avenger most likely to be squashed flat by Thanos 5 seconds after he sets foot on Earth it would be the guy whose only superpower is to aim a bow really well.

Ant-Man doesn't feature either.

I mean, he's probably in the grass somewhere.
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Ant Man has his own movie coming next with The Wasp

Which seems like really awkward timing if the universe is on the brink after Avengers 3
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https://i.redd.it/kugvp9y8m4m01.jpg

I don't think this has been posted here yet, but here's a poster. Interesting things in the credits. Chris Pratt gets the "And" so I guess he'll be a pretty key role. Peter Dinklage is in it. Tom Hiddleston is only named at the bottom so his role might be small. Iris Elba and Gwyneth Paltrow are confirmed at the bottom. Notably no Renner or Rudd named anywhere in the poster. Which doesn't mean they're not in it, but it might.
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