Current Events > do you think black voters will be a unified bloc in the 2020 primaries?

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Balrog0
03/13/18 12:43:13 PM
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both Obama and Clinton (2016) had the black vote locked up in their primaries

but in 2004 this was not the case and I anticipate that 2020 will also split the black vote

what do you think?
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GuyCarlPeterson
03/13/18 12:44:10 PM
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No because most don't realise republicans are the ones trying to help them.
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KILBOTz
03/13/18 12:44:44 PM
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depends entirely on the candidate. as of now I expect it will be split, same with all groups.

edit: split between democrats, they won't suddenly turn republican.
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Antifar
03/13/18 12:46:01 PM
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The black vote was less unified in 2016 than it was often portrayed; Sanders made decent inroads among young black voters by the later primaries

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/huge-split-between-older-younger-blacks-democratic-primary-n580996

To answer the question at hand, it really depends on who runs. Harris and Booker obviously would be favorites to do well among black voters; my sense is that Booker might fare better in the South (where the Democratic primaries are heavily black) as he was one of the few national Democrats to campaign on the ground for Doug Jones last fall.
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Anteaterking
03/13/18 12:46:06 PM
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I can't say for sure, but I could see Biden getting a unified block in the primaries. It highly depends on who he's running against though.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/13/18 12:47:17 PM
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GuyCarlPeterson posted...
No because most don't realise republicans are the ones trying to help them.

And whose fucking fault is that?
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Antifar
03/13/18 12:49:11 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
I can't say for sure, but I could see Biden getting a unified block in the primaries.

I can't.
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Solar_Crimson
03/13/18 12:49:43 PM
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GuyCarlPeterson posted...
No because most don't realise republicans are the ones trying to help them.

By ending the programs that help them get by?
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Anteaterking
03/13/18 12:50:27 PM
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Antifar posted...
I can't.


But is that based on how you think he'll do in the primaries overall or how you think he'll do specifically with black people?
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UnholyMudcrab
03/13/18 12:50:52 PM
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GuyCarlPeterson posted...
No because most don't realise republicans are the ones trying to help them.

Even excusing the ridiculousness of this statement, this is irrelevant to their voting habits in the primaries.
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Antifar
03/13/18 12:52:54 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Antifar posted...
I can't.


But is that based on how you think he'll do in the primaries overall or how you think he'll do specifically with black people?

Both: I think he'll do poorly in 2020 primaries, and I think the success he has won't come from black voters.
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GuyCarlPeterson
03/13/18 1:00:01 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
GuyCarlPeterson posted...
No because most don't realise republicans are the ones trying to help them.

By ending the programs that help them get by?

By giving them jobs instead of handouts.
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Anteaterking
03/13/18 1:00:15 PM
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Antifar posted...
Both: I think he'll do poorly in 2020 primaries, and I think the success he has won't come from black voters.


If he does well (say is consistently one of the top two candidates), I do think that he'll have a decent portion of black voters behind him.

The "Obama's VP" factor has always played well with his favorability among black voters. In a world where people want a "return to form", that's an easy thing to point to.

I agree with you that Booker probably would do better, but I also don't see a world where the big head to head in the primaries is Booker and Biden. If Booker still looks weak going into the primaries, I don't think he's going to maintain a level of support there.
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Balrog0
03/13/18 1:00:30 PM
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Antifar posted...
The black vote was less unified in 2016 than it was often portrayed; Sanders made decent inroads among young black voters by the later primaries

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/huge-split-between-older-younger-blacks-democratic-primary-n580996


she still won 76% of the black vote compared to 82% for Obama in 2008*... not too different

KILBOTz posted...
depends entirely on the candidate. as of now I expect it will be split, same with all groups.

edit: split between democrats, they won't suddenly turn republican.


I assumed that's what you meant anyway lol
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