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CwebbMichSac4 03/12/18 4:43:31 AM #1:	.....this way? This is a fact many pro life politicians vote this way, they will try to do everything they can to..... yes i consider this to be wrong i disagree View Results ......prevent women from being able to get abortions but at the same time will vote or try to drastically reduce or even eliminate programs, if they could, like wic, head start, food stamps, etc.....The same programs that would help these kids that hypothetically would have been not aborted. <cite>CwebbMichSac4 posted [p:897639381] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote> .....this way? This is a fact many pro life politicians vote this way, they will try to do everything they can to..... yes i consider this to be wrong i disagree View Results ......prevent women from being able to get abortions but at the same time will vote or try to drastically reduce or even eliminate programs, if they could, like wic, head start, food stamps, etc.....The same programs that would help these kids that hypothetically would have been not aborted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 03/12/18 4:52:23 AM #2:	Sorry...........all I could focus on........ was your ridiculous run-on......... lines of periods...... --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign Twenty million starving and writhing in pain <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:897639534] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote>Sorry...........all I could focus on........ was your ridiculous run-on......... lines of periods......</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 03/12/18 4:54:45 AM #3:	I'm too.... tired for this.... shit --- http://i.imgur.com/ymmqXXN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5iNwXbV.png http://i.imgur.com/HSriaa3.gif http://i.imgur.com/xphiy45.gifv <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:897639584] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote>I'm too.... tired for this.... shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XBoner 03/12/18 5:05:05 AM #4:	MabusIncarnate posted... Sorry...........all I could focus on........ was your ridiculous run-on......... lines of periods...... ridiculous? it's still the same sentence not really a run on, it's part of the same sentence duh, how else was he supposed to do it genius? --- "If A.I. was the answer, who was the question?" <cite>XBoner posted [p:897639758] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote><cite>MabusIncarnate posted...</cite> <quote>Sorry...........all I could focus on........ was your ridiculous run-on......... lines of periods......</quote> ridiculous? it's still the same sentence not really a run on, it's part of the same sentence duh, how else was he supposed to do it genius?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XBoner 03/12/18 11:19:55 AM #5:	yep --- "If A.I. was the answer, who was the question?" <cite>XBoner posted [p:897650191] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote>yep</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 03/12/18 11:22:47 AM #6:	i dont see a connection between the two tbh. like say you're anti-abortion, your only priority is to stop abortion, it's not necessarily to solve the problem of unplanned pregnancies. --- http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:897650327] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote>i dont see a connection between the two tbh. like say you're anti-abortion, your only priority is to stop abortion, it's not necessarily to solve the problem of unplanned pregnancies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy 03/12/18 11:23:13 AM #7:	I think it's super fucking hypocritical now that it's coming out that Trump very likely knocked up Stormy Daniels (per the NDA) and that he is very likely a "baby killer" himself (unless she had the abortion against his will, which I doubt because he was married) --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://i.imgur.com/zlaENmx.png <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:897650347] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote>I think it's super fucking hypocritical now that it's coming out that Trump very likely knocked up Stormy Daniels (per the NDA) and that he is very likely a "baby killer" himself (unless she had the abortion against his will, which I doubt because he was married)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XBoner 03/12/18 11:24:26 AM #8:	Romulox28 posted... i dont see a connection between the two tbh. like say you're anti-abortion, your only priority is to stop abortion, it's not necessarily to solve the problem of unplanned pregnancies. your only priority is to stop abortions? So you think that is the mindset of many pro life people? just stop the abortions, kinda hypocritical imo --- "If A.I. was the answer, who was the question?" <cite>XBoner posted [p:897650400] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>i dont see a connection between the two tbh. like say you're anti-abortion, your only priority is to stop abortion, it's not necessarily to solve the problem of unplanned pregnancies.</quote> your only priority is to stop abortions? So you think that is the mindset of many pro life people? just stop the abortions, kinda hypocritical imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MorbidFaithless 03/12/18 11:25:12 AM #9:	XBoner posted... Romulox28 posted... i dont see a connection between the two tbh. like say you're anti-abortion, your only priority is to stop abortion, it's not necessarily to solve the problem of unplanned pregnancies. your only priority is to stop abortions? So you think that is the mindset of many pro life people? just stop the abortions, kinda hypocritical imo It's not hypocritical when you realize all they want to do is control the (sex) lives of women. --- walk like thunder <cite>MorbidFaithless posted [p:897650436] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote><cite>XBoner posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>i dont see a connection between the two tbh. like say you're anti-abortion, your only priority is to stop abortion, it's not necessarily to solve the problem of unplanned pregnancies.</quote> your only priority is to stop abortions? So you think that is the mindset of many pro life people? just stop the abortions, kinda hypocritical imo</quote> It's not hypocritical when you realize all they want to do is control the (sex) lives of women.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/12/18 11:26:38 AM #10:	the main hypocrisy I guess is the attempt to restrict access to contraceptives that would prevent the need for those things --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:897650494] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote>the main hypocrisy I guess is the attempt to restrict access to contraceptives that would prevent the need for those things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 03/12/18 11:26:52 AM #11:	MabusIncarnate posted... Sorry...........all I could focus on........ was your ridiculous run-on......... lines of periods...... wow its super easy to distract you. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:897650499] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote><cite>MabusIncarnate posted...</cite> <quote>Sorry...........all I could focus on........ was your ridiculous run-on......... lines of periods......</quote> wow its super easy to distract you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 03/12/18 11:27:49 AM #12:	Romulox28 posted... i dont see a connection between the two tbh. like say you're anti-abortion, your only priority is to stop abortion, it's not necessarily to solve the problem of unplanned pregnancies. you need a reason to do something. their reason for wanting to stop abortion is "its a child, think of the children, we care about the lives of our children"....so then why do they stop caring after the child is born? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:897650542] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>i dont see a connection between the two tbh. like say you're anti-abortion, your only priority is to stop abortion, it's not necessarily to solve the problem of unplanned pregnancies.</quote> you need a reason to do something. their reason for wanting to stop abortion is "its a child, think of the children, we care about the lives of our children"....so then why do they stop caring after the child is born?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 03/12/18 11:27:51 AM #13:	XBoner posted... Romulox28 posted... i dont see a connection between the two tbh. like say you're anti-abortion, your only priority is to stop abortion, it's not necessarily to solve the problem of unplanned pregnancies. your only priority is to stop abortions? So you think that is the mindset of many pro life people? just stop the abortions, kinda hypocritical imo how is that hypocritical? TheVipaGTS posted... you need a reason to do something. their reason for wanting to stop abortion is "its a child, think of the children, we care about the lives of our children"....so then why do they stop caring after the child is born? that logic doesn't really sit well with me. "oh, you want people to stop having abortions? then you have to solve all other problems involved with unplanned pregnancies first!" --- http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:897650543] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote><cite>XBoner posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>i dont see a connection between the two tbh. like say you're anti-abortion, your only priority is to stop abortion, it's not necessarily to solve the problem of unplanned pregnancies.</quote> your only priority is to stop abortions? So you think that is the mindset of many pro life people? just stop the abortions, kinda hypocritical imo</quote> how is that hypocritical? <cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>you need a reason to do something. their reason for wanting to stop abortion is "its a child, think of the children, we care about the lives of our children"....so then why do they stop caring after the child is born? </quote> that logic doesn't really sit well with me. "oh, you want people to stop having abortions? then you have to solve all other problems involved with unplanned pregnancies first!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XBoner 03/12/18 11:30:36 AM #14:	TheVipaGTS posted... Romulox28 posted... i dont see a connection between the two tbh. like say you're anti-abortion, your only priority is to stop abortion, it's not necessarily to solve the problem of unplanned pregnancies. you need a reason to do something. their reason for wanting to stop abortion is "its a child, think of the children, we care about the lives of our children"....so then why do they stop caring after the child is born? yeah this guy gets it, thanks, i was trying to think of how to respond to that Romu and his ridiculous question of how it is incredibly hypocritcal, there is your answer. --- "If A.I. was the answer, who was the question?" <cite>XBoner posted [p:897650673] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>i dont see a connection between the two tbh. like say you're anti-abortion, your only priority is to stop abortion, it's not necessarily to solve the problem of unplanned pregnancies.</quote> you need a reason to do something. their reason for wanting to stop abortion is "its a child, think of the children, we care about the lives of our children"....so then why do they stop caring after the child is born?</quote> yeah this guy gets it, thanks, i was trying to think of how to respond to that Romu and his ridiculous question of how it is incredibly hypocritcal, there is your answer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XBoner 03/12/18 11:32:26 AM #15:	btw george carlin in one of his "specials" joked about the hypocrisy of people who were pro life and he joked that many of them see these potential children as potential future soldiers. "A whole lot of dead motherfuckers" was his quote and joke. --- "If A.I. was the answer, who was the question?" <cite>XBoner posted [p:897650754] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote>btw george carlin in one of his "specials" joked about the hypocrisy of people who were pro life and he joked that many of them see these potential children as potential future soldiers. "A whole lot of dead motherfuckers" was his quote and joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/12/18 11:33:26 AM #16:	People aren't pro-life because liberals are pro-choice Removing those programs is a result of being economically conservative, not spending much and also not taxing much. Abortion is a moral issue. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:897650798] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote>People aren't pro-life because liberals are pro-choice Removing those programs is a result of being economically conservative, not spending much and also not taxing much. Abortion is a moral issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 03/12/18 11:33:52 AM #17:	Romulox28 posted... that logic doesn't really sit well with me. "oh, you want people to stop having abortions? then you have to solve all other problems involved with unplanned pregnancies first!" your logic is what doesn't make sense. As i said you need a reason for not wanting Abortion to exist. you can't just say "eh, I don't like it" and make that law. you need to argue a reason to abolish it. the reason they choose to use is what i mentioned...so its perfectly fair to counter that argument with "why do you stop caring after the child is born"...its not us making the claim. We're just calling their bluff on the reason THEY CHOOSE to use for why they don't want abortion. They don't want to be called hypocrites? Choose a different reason to abolish abortion... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:897650815] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>that logic doesn't really sit well with me. "oh, you want people to stop having abortions? then you have to solve all other problems involved with unplanned pregnancies first!" </quote> your logic is what doesn't make sense. As i said you need a reason for not wanting Abortion to exist. you can't just say "eh, I don't like it" and make that law. you need to argue a reason to abolish it. the reason they choose to use is what i mentioned...so its perfectly fair to counter that argument with "why do you stop caring after the child is born"...its not us making the claim. We're just calling their bluff on the reason THEY CHOOSE to use for why they don't want abortion. They don't want to be called hypocrites? Choose a different reason to abolish abortion...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 03/12/18 11:34:25 AM #18:	TheVipaGTS posted... Romulox28 posted... that logic doesn't really sit well with me. "oh, you want people to stop having abortions? then you have to solve all other problems involved with unplanned pregnancies first!" your logic is what doesn't make sense. As i said you need a reason for not wanting Abortion to exist. you can't just say "eh, I don't like it" and make that law. you need to argue a reason to abolish it. the reason they choose to use is what i mentioned...so its perfectly fair to counter that argument with "why do you stop caring after the child is born"...its not us making the claim. We're just calling their bluff on the reason THEY CHOOSE to use for why they don't want abortion. They don't want to be called hypocrites? Choose a different reason to abolish abortion... abortion is a moral issue, you can want something gone for moral reasons and have different views on economics --- http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:897650839] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>that logic doesn't really sit well with me. "oh, you want people to stop having abortions? then you have to solve all other problems involved with unplanned pregnancies first!" </quote> your logic is what doesn't make sense. As i said you need a reason for not wanting Abortion to exist. you can't just say "eh, I don't like it" and make that law. you need to argue a reason to abolish it. the reason they choose to use is what i mentioned...so its perfectly fair to counter that argument with "why do you stop caring after the child is born"...its not us making the claim. We're just calling their bluff on the reason THEY CHOOSE to use for why they don't want abortion. They don't want to be called hypocrites? Choose a different reason to abolish abortion...</quote> abortion is a moral issue, you can want something gone for moral reasons and have different views on economics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/12/18 11:36:01 AM #19:	As much as I disagree with the politics I can't say it's wrong no. "I want to stop all abortions" And "I don't want to fund social programs for single moms." Are not contradictory statements. Douchey? Sure But the focus in both cases is on self-responsibility not government responsibiity. It's consistent --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:897650905] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote>As much as I disagree with the politics I can't say it's wrong no. "I want to stop all abortions" And "I don't want to fund social programs for single moms." Are not contradictory statements. Douchey? Sure But the focus in both cases is on self-responsibility not government responsibiity. It's consistent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 03/12/18 11:39:50 AM #20:	Romulox28 posted... abortion is a moral issue, you can want something gone for moral reasons and have different views on economics which is fine. but for some things, what's moral for you might not matter to someone else. and when you're deciding policy as a nation you need a strong reason. "its immoral" on its own is not enough to change policy for the entire nation and force it on everyone. So they need more. the more they choose to use is "think of the children. we care about the children"...as soon as they use that argument its fair game to call them out on their hypocrisy. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:897651096] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>abortion is a moral issue, you can want something gone for moral reasons and have different views on economics </quote> which is fine. but for some things, what's moral for you might not matter to someone else. and when you're deciding policy as a nation you need a strong reason. "its immoral" on its own is not enough to change policy for the entire nation and force it on everyone. So they need more. the more they choose to use is "think of the children. we care about the children"...as soon as they use that argument its fair game to call them out on their hypocrisy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 03/12/18 11:41:04 AM #21:	TheVipaGTS posted... Romulox28 posted... abortion is a moral issue, you can want something gone for moral reasons and have different views on economics which is fine. but for some things, what's moral for you might not matter to someone else. and when you're deciding policy as a nation you need a strong reason. "its immoral" on its own is not enough to change policy for the entire nation and force it on everyone. So they need more. the more they choose to use is "think of the children. we care about the children"...as soon as they use that argument its fair game to call them out on their hypocrisy. the strong reason would be that the pro-life person thinks that abortion is the murder of an unborn child --- http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:897651158] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>abortion is a moral issue, you can want something gone for moral reasons and have different views on economics </quote> which is fine. but for some things, what's moral for you might not matter to someone else. and when you're deciding policy as a nation you need a strong reason. "its immoral" on its own is not enough to change policy for the entire nation and force it on everyone. So they need more. the more they choose to use is "think of the children. we care about the children"...as soon as they use that argument its fair game to call them out on their hypocrisy.</quote> the strong reason would be that the pro-life person thinks that abortion is the murder of an unborn child</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 03/12/18 11:45:19 AM #22:	UnfairRepresent posted... As much as I disagree with the politics I can't say it's wrong no. "I want to stop all abortions" And "I don't want to fund social programs for single moms." Are not contradictory statements. Douchey? Sure But the focus in both cases is on self-responsibility not government responsibiity. It's consistent This Specifically, the religious social conservative view point is basically that you shouldn't be getting pregnant unless you're 100% sure you can support the kid on your own. Anything that discourages people from feeling like they have a way to have kids they can't support is acceptable under this view point. You can argue it whether it's ethical or not all day, but it is internally consistent --- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny <cite>Panthera posted [p:897651358] in Would you ... [t:76407087]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>As much as I disagree with the politics I can't say it's wrong no. "I want to stop all abortions" And "I don't want to fund social programs for single moms." Are not contradictory statements. Douchey? Sure But the focus in both cases is on self-responsibility not government responsibiity. It's consistent</quote> This Specifically, the religious social conservative view point is basically that you shouldn't be getting pregnant unless you're 100% sure you can support the kid on your own. Anything that discourages people from feeling like they have a way to have kids they can't support is acceptable under this view point. You can argue it whether it's ethical or not all day, but it is internally consistent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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