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sLaCkEr408___RJ 03/09/18 3:21:04 PM #51: |
thanosibe posted...
sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...thanosibe posted...Across like 5 generations of gaming I probably own 12 fighting games on different consoles and have played more. Arcades were still big in the 80's and 90's and I frequented them a lot. I 100% understand fighting games. That understanding is the exact reason why I don't play a lot of fighting games.Darklit_Minuet posted...thanosibe posted...Fighting games in general are boring af. Same shit different stage. So Smash is no different than any other fighting franchise. But once a while things get changed up and Brawl and Soul Calibur 2 are about the few I found that offer something other than "arcade" mode. Brawl's story mode was like playing a beat em up with Smash characters. SC2 offer to hone skills and test your brain rather than just one mindless fight after another than usually be accomplished with button mashing.Brawl is literally the only entertaining entry to date in the Smash series. Then you should understand that fighting games are far from mindless, especially above the casual level. Fighting games are the chess of video games. Mind games + reaction/execution. The fun part is using the tools you are given to stay ahead of your opponent. Each subgenre and each game with different mechanics all offer to switch up those tools. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A5modeu5 03/09/18 3:49:01 PM #52: |
Smash 4 is the best for casual multiplayer party fun.
Melee is the best at a competitive level Brawl sucks 64 is really clunky but is at least somewhat balanced. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spidey5 03/09/18 4:32:37 PM #54: |
BigTee66 posted...
To me, Smash 4 was a huge downgrade in the single player department Agreed. I put hundreds of hours in the other games. But I only played smash 4 once. Or maybe i just got sick of the series. I dunno. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sLaCkEr408___RJ 03/09/18 6:14:42 PM #55: |
RedWhiteBlue posted...
I seriously don't get how anyone is, and apparently everyone is, shitting all over Brawl. It had so many fun modes, a great roster, and didn't fuck over a player for getting hit once against a professional combo player who basically wants to stunlock to win. Melee had excellent gameplay, though, but it's missing all the extra shit Brawl added. Melee fights are also enjoyable to watch and spontaneous. I suppose the vocal fans are of the competitive nature. They really are the ones who will play the game way after it's intended lifespan as long as the gameplay offers constant challenge and ways to improve. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 03/09/18 7:04:56 PM #56: |
RedWhiteBlue posted...
a great roster It replaced Mewtwo with Lucario, and Young Link with Stupid Cel Shaded Link It's an objectively worse roster ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario masta 03/09/18 7:06:07 PM #57: |
lmao @ Melee having "deep" techs and mechanics
you mean glitches --- ...I guess... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zack_Attackv1 03/09/18 7:06:50 PM #58: |
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thanosibe 03/09/18 7:06:55 PM #59: |
RedWhiteBlue posted...
I seriously don't get how anyone is, and apparently everyone is, shitting all over Brawl. It had so many fun modes, a great roster, and didn't fuck over a player for getting hit once against a professional combo player who basically wants to stunlock to win. Melee had excellent gameplay, though, but it's missing all the extra shit Brawl added. Melee fights are also enjoyable to watch and spontaneous.This. There was so much right Brawl had besides the core fighting that no other Smash game had. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArchiePeck 03/09/18 7:07:25 PM #60: |
Project M.
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Delirious_Beard 03/09/18 7:11:17 PM #61: |
_Near_ posted...
Ledge hogging is a stupid fucking idea and I'm glad it's gone enjoy your meta of zero edgeguarding the removal of ledge stalling was all that needed to be done to the ledge, it was a perfect change --- http://i.imgur.com/5UL2v5u.gif "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Near_ 03/09/18 8:05:26 PM #62: |
Delirious_Beard posted...
lmao if you think that there's no edguarding if you take out ledgehogging it always amazes me how melee purists hold on to bad game design because they think it makes the game more complex. --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 03/09/18 8:23:06 PM #63: |
_Near_ posted...
Delirious_Beard posted... Brawl literally has tripping ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeneralKenobi85 03/09/18 8:24:31 PM #64: |
mario masta posted...
lmao @ Melee having "deep" techs and mechanics 2018 and some people still say this. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Near_ 03/09/18 8:32:26 PM #65: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
yeah, that's part of why it's the worst one --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SkittyOnWailord 03/09/18 8:35:26 PM #66: |
Brawl > Wii U > 3DS > SSB > Melee
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Darklit_Minuet 03/09/18 8:36:02 PM #67: |
SkittyOnWailord posted...
Brawl > Wii U > 3DS > SSB > Melee I think you accidentally switched Melee and Brawl's positions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SkittyOnWailord 03/09/18 8:49:07 PM #68: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
SkittyOnWailord posted...Brawl > Wii U > 3DS > SSB > Melee Nope. My opinion was posted correctly. --- I'm here! I'm furry! I'll try not to shed! =^_^= i7 5820K|Rampage V Extreme|32GB DDR4 Ripjaws 4|2xSLI GTX 980ti Lightning LE|HAF 932|Sony 55inch 4K HDR|HTC Vive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 03/09/18 8:50:37 PM #70: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
xAzNPimP4LiFex posted...Brawl was my favorite one We're pretending the 64 doesn't exist? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 03/09/18 8:52:54 PM #71: |
Spidey5 posted...
Agreed. I put hundreds of hours in the other games. But I only played smash 4 once. Or maybe i just got sick of the series. I dunno. Nah, it is a major step backwards. The Subspace Emissary mode could've been refined, but it was fucking cool, the scenes that were in it. They didn't do shit for 4. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 03/09/18 8:55:21 PM #72: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...xAzNPimP4LiFex posted...Brawl was my favorite one 64 doesn't have tripping, and doesn't have Lucario. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeneralKenobi85 03/09/18 9:00:19 PM #73: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...xAzNPimP4LiFex posted...Brawl was my favorite one 64 has Board the Platforms and unique Break the Targets for each character. That alone beats anything in Smash 4. Really, they're all good games. Smash 4 just has no extra content. 8 Player Smash is pretty cool, but that's it. It's got nothing going else going for it other than its roster and a few good stages. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chill02 03/09/18 9:02:21 PM #74: |
Melee > 4 > Brawl > 64
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dave_is_slick 03/09/18 9:08:47 PM #75: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
dave_is_slick posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...xAzNPimP4LiFex posted...Brawl was my favorite one So? I can count on one hand how many times I've lost due to tripping. Exactly 0 times. All y'all fucking suck if you're losing to tripping. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 03/09/18 9:42:01 PM #76: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...dave_is_slick posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...xAzNPimP4LiFex posted...Brawl was my favorite one Doesn't matter. Not having it makes 64 better, and not having Lucario makes 64 better ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 03/09/18 9:54:03 PM #77: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Not having it makes 64 better 64 had objectively worse mechanics. That's all that matters. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 03/09/18 9:54:48 PM #78: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...Not having it makes 64 better No tripping is an objectively better mechanic than tripping The ability to combo is an objectively better mechanic than Brawl's floatiness Besides having more characters and side-b moves, what mechanics did Brawl have over 64? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 03/09/18 10:00:28 PM #80: |
Conflict posted...
nothing about it was better than SSB4 SSE. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SkittyOnWailord 03/09/18 10:01:10 PM #81: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Besides having more characters and side-b moves, what mechanics did Brawl have over 64? Autolink angle. --- I'm here! I'm furry! I'll try not to shed! =^_^= i7 5820K|Rampage V Extreme|32GB DDR4 Ripjaws 4|2xSLI GTX 980ti Lightning LE|HAF 932|Sony 55inch 4K HDR|HTC Vive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 03/09/18 10:13:17 PM #82: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Besides having more characters and side-b moves, what mechanics did Brawl have over 64? Smash attacks --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 03/10/18 12:25:26 AM #83: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...Besides having more characters and side-b moves, what mechanics did Brawl have over 64? Charging them at least. Throwing people in four directions, everything related to air dodging, probably a lot more --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 03/10/18 12:26:27 AM #84: |
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_Near_ 03/10/18 12:38:04 AM #85: |
Conflict posted...
I'm guessing people are just trolling or memeing when they say Brawl is the best. Game had some glaring flaws and nothing about it was better than SSB4 aside from Ice Climbers' removal from 4 naw, people just have shit taste, tbh --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Benify 03/10/18 12:47:42 AM #86: |
Melee had the best gameplay, but Project M is basically Brawl's awesome content with Melee's gameplay, sooo that. Smash 4 is cool but on a competitive level it is absolutely garbage. 64 is silly fun but just seems outdated now.
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sLaCkEr408___RJ 03/10/18 1:18:25 AM #87: |
Benify posted...
Smash 4 is cool but on a competitive level it is absolutely garbage. Please tell me you have SSB4. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Near_ 03/10/18 1:21:45 AM #88: |
sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
Benify posted...Smash 4 is cool but on a competitive level it is absolutely garbage. Seriously. I just think most people haven't really played 4 that much. Lots of people in this topic who have played it have admitted that they either don't own it or have only played it a couple of times. I mean, you can't really blame people for putting up Melee as the best one - no one bought a fucking Wii U. --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capital_Tenant 03/10/18 1:36:17 AM #89: |
chill02 posted...
Melee > 4 > Brawl > 64 This. I agree with this. --- "Death is not the greatest loss in life. The greatest loss in life is what dies inside us while we live." - Norma Cousin I <3 Capcom ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 03/10/18 2:09:11 AM #90: |
_Near_ posted...
sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...Benify posted...Smash 4 is cool but on a competitive level it is absolutely garbage. 4 just seemed empty. It was a step back in a lot of ways. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi7 03/10/18 2:21:45 AM #91: |
Melee > Brawl > 4 > 64
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GeneralKenobi85 03/10/18 8:56:05 AM #92: |
_Near_ posted...
sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...Benify posted...Smash 4 is cool but on a competitive level it is absolutely garbage. Might also be that Melee actually is the best one. Competitively it is of course. Smash 4 also is good competitively. But Melee is also the better casual game. At least I think it is. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Near_ 03/10/18 11:25:32 AM #93: |
While Melee requires more skill and it's more competitive, it relies on exploits which were not balanced in the first place. From a gameplay stand point, Smash 4 is a better fighting game because the mechanics used to play it both competitively and casually are balanced.
Smash 4 is definitely the better casual game, as well, given the fact that it dispenses with a lot of useless punishing tactics like a single air dodge or ledge hogging. Furthermore, it has way more characters (including third party characters) and the ability to stuff in 8 players in a single match. And it's way easier to be good at Smash 4 than it is to be good at Melee. --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeneralKenobi85 03/10/18 12:04:05 PM #94: |
Smash 4 is in a bad spot competitively right now though, while Melee isn't. Bayonetta is a major issue at all levels of competitive play.
I personally think Smash 4 is a poor game for casual play though. If I had friends to play it with frequently I'm sure it would be more enjoyable. But it really doesn't have anything to offer when playing alone. And having a great roster doesn't change that. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BudDupree48 03/10/18 12:09:53 PM #95: |
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TheGrindery 03/10/18 12:11:02 PM #96: |
GeneralKenobi85 posted...
_Near_ posted...sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...Benify posted...Smash 4 is cool but on a competitive level it is absolutely garbage. I'm still surprised by how deep the gameplay turned out to be, especially with those exploits like wavedashing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spidey5 03/10/18 12:12:42 PM #97: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Spidey5 posted...Agreed. I put hundreds of hours in the other games. But I only played smash 4 once. Or maybe i just got sick of the series. I dunno. Yeah, love the cutscenes. Even if Brawl suffered from some bad mechanics, I still enjoyed it cause there was lots of single player content. None of my friends still play the series, so I feel 4 was completely empty. It's an annoying thing about Nintendo with their larger focus on multiplayer in general. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 03/10/18 12:33:42 PM #98: |
No Subspace emissary in Smash 4 really hurt me and I can't help but feel part of the reason was because of their assheaded insistence on having a 3DS and Wii U version of the same fucking game and they still couldn't be assed to make sure they had equivalent content.
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Blbmbr666 03/10/18 12:39:17 PM #99: |
_Near_ posted...
While Melee requires more skill and it's more competitive, it relies on exploits which were not balanced in the first place. From a gameplay stand point, Smash 4 is a better fighting game because the mechanics used to play it both competitively and casually are balanced. It's funny to say this, when the 'exploits' you talk about are actually hard as fuck to execute well enough to be a high level player. Besides that, it's still a better balanced game than Sm4sh. Check top 8 character representation vs the total cast count. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mist_Turnips 03/10/18 12:56:16 PM #100: |
Blbmbr666 posted...
Check top 8 character representation vs the total cast count. 1. Fox 2. Fox 3. Fox 4. Fox 5. Fox 6. Fox 7. Fox 8. ??? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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