Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 164: Beta Male's Beto-Fail

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How To Kill Your Candidacy In One Question and Self-Answer by Stacey Dash

She was asked about the "good people on both sides" comment from Trump about Charlottesville. She goes on a tirade about constitutional rights and violence on both sides then ends with the greatest gem of all time:

Do I know every person in the Neo-Nazi party, if they have a good heart or not? No, I dont.

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"Bitch, did you raise the price on music too?!"
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TheRock1525 posted...

How To Kill Your Candidacy In One Question and Self-Answer by Stacey Dash

She was asked about the "good people on both sides" comment from Trump about Charlottesville. She goes on a tirade about constitutional rights and violence on both sides then ends with the greatest gem of all time:

Do I know every person in the Neo-Nazi party, if they have a good heart or not? No, I dont.

So she thinks neo Nazis can be good people. How far this country has fallen.
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Iraq is infinitely better than it was under Saddam

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man too bad i took a break from the politics topic for awhile. i totally missed this gem by sephy.
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TheRock1525 posted...

How To Kill Your Candidacy In One Question and Self-Answer by Stacey Dash

She was asked about the "good people on both sides" comment from Trump about Charlottesville. She goes on a tirade about constitutional rights and violence on both sides then ends with the greatest gem of all time:

Do I know every person in the Neo-Nazi party, if they have a good heart or not? No, I dont.

Apparently she's running in a district Clinton won 83-12, too...!
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Peace___Frog posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

How To Kill Your Candidacy In One Question and Self-Answer by Stacey Dash

She was asked about the "good people on both sides" comment from Trump about Charlottesville. She goes on a tirade about constitutional rights and violence on both sides then ends with the greatest gem of all time:

Do I know every person in the Neo-Nazi party, if they have a good heart or not? No, I dont.

So she thinks neo Nazis can be good people. How far this country has fallen.

Don't worry, Stacey Dash has always been a lunatic
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TheRock1525 posted...

How To Kill Your Candidacy In One Question and Self-Answer by Stacey Dash

She was asked about the "good people on both sides" comment from Trump about Charlottesville. She goes on a tirade about constitutional rights and violence on both sides then ends with the greatest gem of all time:

Do I know every person in the Neo-Nazi party, if they have a good heart or not? No, I dont.

I'm sure there's some good people in the Neo-Nazi movement, and they just signed up because...uh...yeah I can't even come up with a good punchline sorry
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Because they really liked Neo from the Matrix
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I'll bite because I don't believe in absolutes

Someone could grow up instilled with Nazi beliefs, but if they have a good heart it's possible for them to change
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I cant reconcile having a good heart with accepting Nazi beliefs at any reasonable age

Unless were talking literal children
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Like, I can conceive of that for generalized racism

But if youve grown up under the pretense that certain categories of people need to be eliminated from existence and youve never realized that theres something fundamentally wrong with that, you dont have a good heart
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Mind =/= heart
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Mind =/= heart

your heart is a pump for the flow of your blood
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Mind =/= heart

Youre gonna have to elaborate on that.

Like give me an example of this human who is fundamentally good but believes Jews need to burn in ovens because his parents taught him that.

Has he been completely sheltered from any society or Western media his whole life into adulthood?
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And thats a big part of why you have to fight literal Nazis instead of reasoning with them. Their beliefs are beyond reason.

Run of the mil racists can be reasoned with. You CAN debate some of those people in the so-called marketplace of ideas depending on why theyre bigoted.

Not Nazis
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Panthera posted...

I'm sure there's some good people in the Neo-Nazi movement, and they just signed up because...uh...yeah I can't even come up with a good punchline sorry

Ask Muffin. I believe he has the answer to this question.

(He was the one pseudo defending them during Charlottesville wasn't he?)
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I think he was defending the false pretense of protecting the Confederate statues

Even he seemed kinda disgusted at the actual message itself
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I remember him mentioning he had a previous picture of him with Christopher Cantwell...think he sounded disappointed about it in hindsight after Charlottesville, been awhile though.
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He actually donated money to Cantwell.
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This subject reminded me of this article, one of the best I've ever read, and one that has stuck with me.

http://wapo.st/2FwRORz

They don't consider themselves Nazis (though obviously they have some despicable beliefs), and obviously the kid who is highlighted was reasoned with, so I'm not sure if it really fits with this perfectly, but seriously, read it!

I do think the article subtly highlights why cities tend to be liberal. I think it's tough to have certain mindsets of the Republican party when you are actually exposed to a diverse set of people and see how they are impacted by certain policies and systems in place.
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Yeah I think weve talked about that before

You have to believe other groups are a threat to be a Trumpian conservative, and thats hard to do if you actually encounter people from those groups in your daily life
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yeah for the record, muffin donated tons of money to cantwell and met him, and according to muffin cantwell is "just a normal guy who says ridiculous stuff for attention/clicks."

still not sure how that makes him someone worth giving money to, but i'm sure muffin has great reasons!
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Jakyl25 posted...

Yeah I think weve talked about that before

You have to believe other groups are a threat to be a Trumpian conservative, and thats hard to do if you actually encounter people from those groups in your daily life

Which is why they report on an undocumented immigrants crime like it's big news on Fox, over the horrible stuff that any average legal citizen does on the daily.
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And why theres a black crime tag on Breitbart
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Yup. It's a matter of perception.
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Trump rally ended up on in the background. I mean, I read excerpts sometimes, but watching it live is pretty insane. I don't understand how people who go this are entertained by it. About half of it is complaining about his media coverage (queue him saying he doesn't have time to watch TV LOL).

Also, from a political perspective, he briefly brought up Saccone at the start but hasn't mentioned voting on Tuesday since (25 minutes in at least).

While I'm at that topic, lol at the RNC having to spend so much time and money on this race, when the district will not even exist soon. I actually understand the logic of it, they don't want more guys tempted to retire after an embarrassing loss, but man. Unless saccone wins by maybe 5+ points, this is pretty much a loss for republicans no matter what happens..
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Icehawk posted...

Trump rally ended up on in the background. I mean, I read excerpts sometimes, but watching it live is pretty insane. I don't understand how people who go this are entertained by it. About half of it is complaining about his media coverage (queue him saying he doesn't have time to watch TV LOL).

Also, from a political perspective, he briefly brought up Saccone at the start but hasn't mentioned voting on Tuesday since (25 minutes in at least).

While I'm at that topic, lol at the RNC having to spend so much time and money on this race, when the district will not even exist soon. I actually understand the logic of it, they don't want more guys tempted to retire after an embarrassing loss, but man. Unless saccone wins by maybe 5+ points, this is pretty much a loss for republicans no matter what happens..

Trump says he's told his team they can just "coast" until 2020 because they've already done so awesome.
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Icehawk posted...

Trump rally ended up on in the background. I mean, I read excerpts sometimes, but watching it live is pretty insane. I don't understand how people who go this are entertained by it.

Ive never understood this either. I get Trump has charisma but hes such an awful speaker. Even when on rare occasions hes saying things I agree with, his cadence and qualifiers and vocabulary are so awful, but somehow people love it.

Contrast with Obama, who is IMO the best speaker in my lifetime, who could easily convince me to temporarily agree with warmongering bullshit until I snap out of it just with his oration skill
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Jakyl25 posted...

I get Trump has charisma

i don't.
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Nah, Trump has charisma, it's just stupid people charisma. The kind that got all those people laughing at Dane Cook.
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Trump on how the tax bill passed.

"They were calling it Tax reform, and I said, "people don't know what reform means, I don't know what it means, call it tax cuts".

That was his shining moment. Also claimed no one has been able to pass any tax bills since Reagan, completely skipping over Bush. I mean, not that we expect his facts to be accurate in these rallies, but HEY.
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Trump just said the Mexican president asked him to make a statement saying Mexico will not pay the wall. He said THERES NO WAY HE COULD DO THAT.

As he has pushed congress to put American dollars towards the wall.

SIGH.
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BTW, good to see you around again, Icehawk. How you've been?
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Icehawk posted...

"They were calling it Tax reform, and I said, "people don't know what reform means, I don't know what it means, call it tax cuts".

They said at the time he wanted to name it the Cut, Cut, Cut Bill
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Trump just described his electoral victory for 10 minutes. Said his victory was one of the most watched nights in television history off.

Also said ITS MUCH HARDER TO WIN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE THAN THE POOULAR VOTE.

Also said "Remember 270?".

His praise for saccone is that he's a good guy (He then asked if that means anything) and said he's a hard worker. Lol. He also told rick that the pressure is on because he won by 20.

@TheRock1525 doing good buddy! Outside of days the pistons play.
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Man I still love the Pistons way too much. I think it can work but they need to get healthy and make the right offseason moves to add another shooter to the starting lineup.
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Icehawk posted...

Trump on how the tax bill passed.

"They were calling it Tax reform, and I said, "people don't know what reform means, I don't know what it means, call it tax cuts".

That was his shining moment. Also claimed no one has been able to pass any tax bills since Reagan, completely skipping over Bush. I mean, not that we expect his facts to be accurate in these rallies, but HEY.

If you're a Republican you want to be compared to Reagan, but you really, really don't want to be compared to Bush (either Bush, really).
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I suppose that I should also mention that Trump publically endorsed executing drug dealers. Don't think a lot of nuanced policy discussion is needed with that one.

I guess I should mention that he explicitly blames drug dealers for killing thousands of people, but is of course, not going to blame gun manufacturers for gun deaths.
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@TheRock1525

Actually, I agree. I think a healthy Reggie Jackson puts them in that eastern conference middle class. Unfortunately, I think the pistons hands will be pretty tied this off season. No cap space, and all of our tradeable guys are guys I don't envision us getting fair value for. But yeah, we could see be very good, assuming health, next year. I still have faith in Stanley. If that dude learns to shoot, he will be a monster.
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There's an NBA topic if you want to talk more but God I want so badly for Stanley to develop an offensive game. He'd be a legit all-star.
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It's come to my attention Pence broke his ninth tie last month, which only one other person has done in the past century (Thomas R. Marshall, 1913-1921). For comparison, our past three VPs broke twelve ties over twenty-four years.

What else should be considered before saying Pence has become the most impactful VP of our lives? I don't really know the important ties recent VPs have broken. I wasn't gonna count George Sr.'s time as President in this conversation about VPs, though technically he was elected while still VP so I'm open to considering him.
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I'm not sure what disgusts me more, the call on Dumoulin earlier, or the fact that Trump is in the county adjacent to mine.
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HaRRicH posted...

Pence broke his ninth tie

I read this the wrong way and imagined a furious Pence ripping up his neckties whenever he sees a positive portrayal of an LGBT+ character on TV
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Jakyl25 posted...

HaRRicH posted...

Pence broke his ninth tie

I read this the wrong way and imagined a furious Pence ripping up his neckties whenever he sees a positive portrayal of an LGBT+ character on TV

this was my initial reading too
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As far as Veeps go, isnt Cheney considered to have had a ton of influence on Ws agenda

Also I think some of these Pence ties wouldnt be ties if he wasnt there to break them. Republicans in swing states are allowed to not have their name on a bill their constituents wont like as long as theres enough support to pass it, including Pence
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Icehawk posted...

Trump just described his electoral victory for 10 minutes. Said his victory was one of the most watched nights in television history off.

this is what was on when me and my dad tuned in and it took us forever to realize CNN wasn't just covering a really old rally

was just waiting there for the "clip" to end and hear someone talking about some story that would actually relevant about it
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GuessMyUserName posted...

this is what was on when me and my dad tuned in and it took us forever to realize CNN wasn't just covering a really old rally

Well if you average the ages I bet it was a really old rally <_<
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Jakyl25 posted...

As far as Veeps go, isnt Cheney considered to have had a ton of influence on Ws agenda

Also I think some of these Pence ties wouldnt be ties if he wasnt there to break them. Republicans in swing states are allowed to not have their name on a bill their constituents wont like as long as theres enough support to pass it, including Pence

Agreed. Pence doesn't seem to have tons of policy influence. He just happens to be impactful as a tiebreaker, but any vp of trumps would have the same record.
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Jakyl25 posted...

As far as Veeps go, isnt Cheney considered to have had a ton of influence on Ws agenda

Also I think some of these Pence ties wouldnt be ties if he wasnt there to break them. Republicans in swing states are allowed to not have their name on a bill their constituents wont like as long as theres enough support to pass it, including Pence

I figure Pence influences Trump at lot as well, particularly religious actions. He does a lot to wash over Donald's bad behavior to Christians too, so...I think you're right about Cheney, but it's worth noting. I still have a hard time shaking off the Kasich situation where he was basically offered all the responsibilities of the Presidency as VP...gotta believe some of that carried forward with Pence.

And good point about how Pence can help Senators out with tiebreakers as a strategy when you already have a lead you can afford to shave off a bit. We may see that strategy less now that Doug Jones evened the Senate a bit, but also with a more even Senate Pence may be called in more often to break true ties.
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3/10/2018
TWITTER - Adam Best (50 States of Blue)

"Let them call you racist. Let them call you xenophobes. Let them call you nativist. Wear it as a badge of honor."

WTF!? Steve Bannon, Trump's former chief strategist, openly admits he thinks people should be proud to be racists, xenophobes and nativists.https://t.co/ZA6gxZMASH

*VIDEO OF CLIP*

https://twitter.com/adamcbest/status/972586278473666561?s=19

but guyz trump and his administration wuz never racist.....
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